Dragon Age 4 Multiplayer long ramboing Do's and Don'ts....

ONLY if it adds to the SP story or world lore. I never played MP, and hearing Jo Blow say something about themselves when I have no idea who they are is wasted audio for the majority of players.

There is loads of ambient sound and dialogue in these games that has nothing to do with the 'core' story.  This type of thing was done in one of the major ME dlcs and there was virtually no complaints at all.  I think if these were in there and the single player fanatic had no clue they had anything to do with mp they would be fine about it and maybe find these ambient characters interesting.  The moment you put the words mp next to them and it's a horrible affront.

quite some valid points there Beerfish

- what I missed especially in MEA:MP & DAI:MP were the abundantly many & repeatable challenges/mastery incl. N7HQ from ME3MP- for a dedicated casual like me (if a game is gripping, I try to play daily for 1-2 hours) the ME3MP-challenges felt very rewarding: I was working on at least 6-7 challenges simultaneously (I played a certain kit on a certain difficulty & map with a certain weapon(s), used certain powers, killed certain enemies) - so I almost always finished some challenge & got CPs after a match or 2. so I had a very satisfying sense of progression there

- and keep the cool stuff! over cover grabs! different heavy melees! different dodges! (never understood why they didn't use these in MEA:MP) awesome banter ("over here friend!" "UGH" "I had a parakeet once..."! unique kits! the little details, easter eggs!


you know, and maybe just ask the MP-people (idk who clocked 500+ hours into MP), like in a survey, what they loved about ME3MP, DAIMP, MEAMP, what worked, what didn't work...

Over cover grabs were too slow in me3mp (and most of the game was too slow for me), of course they could've done them faster in MEAMP.. also there are at least two different dodges in, normal evade and teleporting (through walls which is super fun if hoster has ok ping).

2000++ hours in MEAMP

Yeah I couldnt play the ""superior one"" for long...

I think that "little thing" depends on crew, as in MEAMP we usually greet others with jump melee when people who know each other/have played with..
and in DAIMP we usually did something stupid the current char could do, like cranking the shield wall on/off

I only care about two things for DA4

1. Must have multiplayer

2. Must have Luke running the show

I bought Inquisition for the MP and it's killer gameplay. Yes really.

Screaming "SP only" just shows ignorance of how good the MP is and a fine example of today's entitlement brigade.

I assure you, the entitlement brigade works both ways.

You wrote it yourself

"1. Must have multiplayer."

MUST!

Nah fam, you don't get to judge with fighting words like them.

The games should have remained single player titles all the way through.

Multiplayer diminishes the single player.
The multiplayer component are probably why we don't have tactic slots anymore I bet!  

Multiplayer is just bad and potentially takes from the single player experience.

Like designing a MMORPG with both PvE and PvP mechanics, you have to balance abilities for both Player vs Environment fights as well as Player vs Player fights? That is a tough shell to break, and it is the reason MMORPGs always has balance issues.

GOTY. MP didn't seem to diminish the SP.

Anyway, I didn't say the SP should be ripped out.

MP abilities didn't all work the same way as SP. Both can co-exist.

I agree no pvp though. DA works cause it's co-op. Sorry Beerfish mate.

I thought my previous comments were pretty fair. Can't imagine a dev liking a post that seemed biased or unbalanced.....then again I have kissed his ass a few times in posts over the years...... hehe

I want mp PVP so I can QQ all of the single player only anti mp people! Oh....wait....

Agree. I suspect MP is part of the reason why healing was removed from DAI (and probably will be from DA4), as well, since abilities are recycled between both modes and the devs probably didn't want to create a character/class that had healing skills which could've ended up feeling like a must-have for MP parties by the playerbase. Personally speaking, I'm okay with MP, but the needs of MP mode do play a role in the creation of the gameplay and that will end up having an effect on SP mode one way on another.

Reasonable theory but it was actually removed to facilitate a style of gameplay we ended up moving away: in the early days of DAI the plan was to have a much more attrition focused dungeon delving experience where a Player would go as far as they could and then have to return to camp to heal up. As time went on we ended up paving over all the more difficult attrition gameplay (adding potion crates everywhere for example) and ended up having to essentially add healers in the form of Barrier spamming.

It is a lesson I've been reiterating to others lately...