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Post by Hrungr on Jun 5, 2019 17:49:53 GMT
Gamespot Summary: Elder Scrolls VIStarting with The Elder Scrolls VI, Howard said Bethesda is designing the game to be played for a decade "at least." He wants the game to have longevity in the way that Skyrim has. He gave no indication as to when The Elder Scrolls VI will release, but he says you will understand why it's taking so long once Bethesda finally shows it off. "On one hand, I think it's good to miss things. I think that makes people come to it with really really fresh eyes," he said about the gap between Skyrim and The Elder Scrolls VI. "When you eventually, eventually see the game and what we have in mind [you'll] understand the gap more in terms of technology and what we want it to do." StarfieldAs for Starfield, Howard talked about how it's important for the game to have its own tone to help it stand apart from the numerous other sci-fi games on the market. "[Starfield will have its] own tone in terms of there is so much science-fiction in the same way that Fallout has its own tone in post-apocalyptic," he said. "Elder Scrolls has found its own tone, but originally didn't. It was very generic fantasy." Howard wants Starfield to be the "be all, end all science fiction game that everyone's always wanted to play." He clarified that it is his own personal be all, end all sci-fi game, and not necessarily yours. But when will we see more of Starfield? "Everyone should be very patient," Howard said.
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Post by Pounce de León on Jun 6, 2019 10:06:23 GMT
The "ten year plan" and "decade" are really popular promises. Understandably if you look at it from the publisher perspective - they want to assure their games, which are increasingly dependant on online systems, will be playable for some time.
But more than enough people interprete it as salvation of gaming - it's not about content, rather about when the servers will be switched off.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 7, 2019 10:35:05 GMT
If Starfield is always online this might be the last straw for me after Creation Club...
As for bold claims, never a good idea, look at Bioware's Bob Dylan, lol. But then again at least they HAVE made a game that is still going strong after 8 years. Skyrim will still be played in 2 years. Very few developers can claim such unwavering popularity. And I think what Todd means is that they HAVE to make games people will play for 10 years because that's how long they'll have to wait for the next game of that franchise. He's not talking about GaaS specifically but about how slow their development cycles are.
I guess it's good to hear that they're not giving up on FO76. Maybe one day it will be a cool game and have all the things people wanted. Took NMS around 2 years to get to that point. So far it's still a loooong way from that in my eyes. Once they've implemented actual factions you can join and created more opportunities to really roleplay, I'll consider buying it.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 13, 2019 16:33:12 GMT
As for bold claims, never a good idea, look at Bioware's Bob Dylan, lol. But then again at least they HAVE made a game that is still going strong after 8 years. Skyrim will still be played in 2 years. Very few developers can claim such unwavering popularity. And I think what Todd means is that they HAVE to make games people will play for 10 years because that's how long they'll have to wait for the next game of that franchise. He's not talking about GaaS specifically but about how slow their development cycles are. This was my thought exactly. At least Bethesda did pull of the "10 year promise" with Skyrim. Of course, it was with a lot of help from the community but they did provide the support for it, so good on them. My main fear for Starfield and TES6 is that they will try and monetize on mods too much, which would probably break the nexk of those games. I mean, I don't even mind the Creator's club as long as they still allow free mods on other sites (like Nexus). Personally, i haven't come in contact with the Creator's Club at all yet (and I run Skyrim VR with about 150 mods installed). Pretty sure, if they keep it that way for their future games, they can keep them going very long term as well.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 13, 2019 21:56:24 GMT
This was my thought exactly. At least Bethesda did pull of the "10 year promise" with Skyrim. Of course, it was with a lot of help from the community but they did provide the support for it, so good on them. My main fear for Starfield and TES6 is that they will try and monetize on mods too much, which would probably break the nexk of those games. I mean, I don't even mind the Creator's club as long as they still allow free mods on other sites (like Nexus). Personally, i haven't come in contact with the Creator's Club at all yet (and I run Skyrim VR with about 150 mods installed). Pretty sure, if they keep it that way for their future games, they can keep them going very long term as well. How can you not mind CC though if you play with Nexus mods? Doesn't CC break some of them every time they update that bloody store?? Or are these updates less frequent for Skyrim? Because FO4 updates the CC every 1-2 months! I'm "lucky" this shit only breaks 4 of my mods. But now I'm at the mercy of these moddern to keep updating their stuff. Wouldn't blame them for quitting. Which would effectively kill my settlement building and with it any desire to keep playing FO4. Creation Club represents everything wrong with PC gaming right now. It's a big fuck you to the people who ensure the longevity of their games! Can you be any more openly dismissive and greedy? Zenimax is up there at the top of my shitlist with EA. |
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 13, 2019 22:13:11 GMT
This was my thought exactly. At least Bethesda did pull of the "10 year promise" with Skyrim. Of course, it was with a lot of help from the community but they did provide the support for it, so good on them. My main fear for Starfield and TES6 is that they will try and monetize on mods too much, which would probably break the nexk of those games. I mean, I don't even mind the Creator's club as long as they still allow free mods on other sites (like Nexus). Personally, i haven't come in contact with the Creator's Club at all yet (and I run Skyrim VR with about 150 mods installed). Pretty sure, if they keep it that way for their future games, they can keep them going very long term as well. How can you not mind CC though if you play with Nexus mods? Doesn't CC break some of them every time they update that bloody store?? Or are these updates less frequent for Skyrim? Because FO4 updates the CC every 1-2 months! I'm "lucky" this shit only breaks 4 of my mods. But now I'm at the mercy of these moddern to keep updating their stuff. Wouldn't blame them for quitting. Which would effectively kill my settlement building and with it any desire to keep playing FO4. Creation Club represents everything wrong with PC gaming right now. It's a big fuck you to the people who ensure the longevity of their games! Can you be any more openly dismissive and greedy? Zenimax is up there at the top of my shitlist with EA. So, I do agree on all counts as far as CC goes. It is a disgrace. I am just saying, I can ignore it. In fact, I didn't even know it does something to Nexus mods. Guess it depends on how you manage them. I do all this fairly manually (you kinda have to with the VR version because it's a bit of a hack). I download them all and mostly use wrybash to install, maintain and sort for compatability. With that setup, I didn't encounter any trouble.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 14, 2019 8:10:56 GMT
So, I do agree on all counts as far as CC goes. It is a disgrace. I am just saying, I can ignore it. In fact, I didn't even know it does something to Nexus mods. Guess it depends on how you manage them. I do all this fairly manually (you kinda have to with the VR version because it's a bit of a hack). I download them all and mostly use wrybash to install, maintain and sort for compatability. With that setup, I didn't encounter any trouble. Then you must not use any mods than rely on the Script Extender? Because those always break. *sigh * |
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 14, 2019 14:54:58 GMT
So, I do agree on all counts as far as CC goes. It is a disgrace. I am just saying, I can ignore it. In fact, I didn't even know it does something to Nexus mods. Guess it depends on how you manage them. I do all this fairly manually (you kinda have to with the VR version because it's a bit of a hack). I download them all and mostly use wrybash to install, maintain and sort for compatability. With that setup, I didn't encounter any trouble. Then you must not use any mods than rely on the Script Extender? Because those always break. *sigh * I do. Never had a problem with SKSE. And I run the whole thing through Steam (have to since it needs Steam VR).
Maybe it's Fallout specific?
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Post by cankiie on Jun 29, 2019 23:28:08 GMT
This was my thought exactly. At least Bethesda did pull of the "10 year promise" with Skyrim. Of course, it was with a lot of help from the community but they did provide the support for it, so good on them. My main fear for Starfield and TES6 is that they will try and monetize on mods too much, which would probably break the nexk of those games. I mean, I don't even mind the Creator's club as long as they still allow free mods on other sites (like Nexus). Personally, i haven't come in contact with the Creator's Club at all yet (and I run Skyrim VR with about 150 mods installed). Pretty sure, if they keep it that way for their future games, they can keep them going very long term as well. How can you not mind CC though if you play with Nexus mods? Doesn't CC break some of them every time they update that bloody store?? Or are these updates less frequent for Skyrim? Because FO4 updates the CC every 1-2 months! I'm "lucky" this shit only breaks 4 of my mods. But now I'm at the mercy of these moddern to keep updating their stuff. Wouldn't blame them for quitting. Which would effectively kill my settlement building and with it any desire to keep playing FO4. Creation Club represents everything wrong with PC gaming right now. It's a big fuck you to the people who ensure the longevity of their games! Can you be any more openly dismissive and greedy? Zenimax is up there at the top of my shitlist with EA. Creation Club tend to break some mods when updated, yes. Which is one of my fears for the future of Bethesda games. The idea of the creation club is not bad, really. But Bethesda needs to seperate it from the game itself, so that the game does not need an update every time that the creation club is updated. Creation Club basically has to be like the Nexus, for consoles. I don't know how modding works for consoles, really, I don't know if you can seperate the creation club from the game, and allow console players to download packages from the creation club site and into the their game. I am not very techy in that regard... but if it can be done it should be done. Nexus also has a fairly fine system in place currently, an overall patreon site where you can donate a chosen amount and that sum will be paid out to the modders of the site. I don't know how money is distributed, based on endorsements, downloads, whatever, but I hope to see more people get to the patreonage... or people can of course just directly donate to the modders themselves.
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