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Post by saandrig on Oct 25, 2019 22:53:26 GMT
Or they just figured they need more time to polish the games, remove predatory MTX and win back some good will with better releases. We have no idea whether the delayed games would have included 'predatory' MTX's. And we'll never know  AC Odyssey's store was perfect. No idea about Breakpoint, but I just look at FIFA, 2k20 and what is being said about the new COD and wonder if Ubi wanted to dip their fingers in that jar too.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 26, 2019 0:37:36 GMT
We have no idea whether the delayed games would have included 'predatory' MTX's. And we'll never know  AC Odyssey's store was perfect. No idea about Breakpoint, but I just look at FIFA, 2k20 and what is being said about the new COD and wonder if Ubi wanted to dip their fingers in that jar too. Breakpoints less predatory then Odysseys.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 26, 2019 4:52:13 GMT
And we'll never know  AC Odyssey's store was perfect. No idea about Breakpoint, but I just look at FIFA, 2k20 and what is being said about the new COD and wonder if Ubi wanted to dip their fingers in that jar too. For sure, there have certainly been predatory MTX in games. But Ubi's have typically sat between that and none. So fake outrage about them in their games has been rather irresponsible.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 27, 2019 19:09:10 GMT
Breakpoints less predatory then Odysseys. If I went into the paid store now and bought everything I was interested in, it would cost me about $10. There isn't anything in the paid store, it seems to me, that doesn't have a similar version that can be obtained fairly easily by playing the game.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Oct 27, 2019 23:56:14 GMT
It hurts their games. It hurts progression as well.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 11, 2019 22:19:33 GMT
I hadn't realized that Breakpoint was bombing so badly. In response, Ubisoft has delayed the next two quarters of games, if I've heard correctly. They're going to make sure they're finely polished and truly ready for launch, apparently. Novel concepts, those.
I enjoy the AC series, but I hate the gear slots, MTs and such that have become the new norm. Ubisoft being who they are, of course they decided to implement the exact same model in every IP. Having to outfit my assassin in 8 different pieces of gear plus a mount was annoying enough. Gloves and kneepads with stats in a shooter? That's even worse.
I hope Ubi backs off even just a little bit on the overabundance of MTs. It mars otherwise enjoyable games. For me, they create subsystems in AC that are entirely out of place.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 11, 2019 23:02:32 GMT
I hadn't realized that Breakpoint was bombing so badly. In response, Ubisoft has delayed the next two quarters of games, if I've heard correctly. They're going to make sure they're finely polished and truly ready for launch, apparently. Novel concepts, those. I enjoy the AC series, but I hate the gear slots, MTs and such that have become the new norm. Ubisoft being who they are, of course they decided to implement the exact same model in every IP. Having to outfit my assassin in 8 different pieces of gear plus a mount was annoying enough. Gloves and kneepads with stats in a shooter? That's even worse. I hope Ubi backs off even just a little bit on the overabundance of MTs. It mars otherwise enjoyable games. For me, they create subsystems in AC that are entirely out of place. its not really that...omni present. The gear score is a little annoying at times but hopefully when they fix it...and they said they will, it will really be no different then any other shooter or RPG like ME.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 12, 2019 5:40:02 GMT
I hadn't realized that Breakpoint was bombing so badly. In response, Ubisoft has delayed the next two quarters of games, if I've heard correctly. They're going to make sure they're finely polished and truly ready for launch, apparently. Novel concepts, those. I enjoy the AC series, but I hate the gear slots, MTs and such that have become the new norm. Ubisoft being who they are, of course they decided to implement the exact same model in every IP. Having to outfit my assassin in 8 different pieces of gear plus a mount was annoying enough. Gloves and kneepads with stats in a shooter? That's even worse. I hope Ubi backs off even just a little bit on the overabundance of MTs. It mars otherwise enjoyable games. For me, they create subsystems in AC that are entirely out of place. its not really that...omni present. The gear score is a little annoying at times but hopefully when they fix it...and they said they will, it will really be no different then any other shooter or RPG like ME. I'm curious to see what actions they take. AC Unity was a solid game buried under reams of crappy, online-only content and locked/gated gear. Ubi ended up removing pretty much all of it and simply unlocking gated content. This, and their efforts since Unity's poor reception, show me that they are sometimes willing to change course. Still, this current model seems like it's been lucrative in other IPs. Obviously, I've seen no numbers, but they've seemingly done very well with this nonsense in Origins and Odyssey. I imagine its success in AC is why it was stuffed into GR. I'd love to see this system go away, but I'm not holding my breath (for AC in particular, as I don't play their other IPs). I'm also afraid that it would simply be replaced by something worse.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 12, 2019 5:51:28 GMT
its not really that...omni present. The gear score is a little annoying at times but hopefully when they fix it...and they said they will, it will really be no different then any other shooter or RPG like ME. I'm curious to see what actions they take. AC Unity was a solid game buried under reams of crappy, online-only content and locked/gated gear. Ubi ended up removing pretty much all of it and simply unlocking gated content. This, and their efforts since Unity's poor reception, show me that they are sometimes willing to change course. Still, this current model seems like it's been lucrative in other IPs. Obviously, I've seen no numbers, but they've seemingly done very well with this nonsense in Origins and Odyssey. I imagine its success in AC is why it was stuffed into GR. I'd love to see this system go away, but I'm not holding my breath (for AC in particular, as I don't play their other IPs). I'm also afraid that it would simply be replaced by something worse. for clarification your talking about pretty much the inventory?
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 12, 2019 6:05:12 GMT
I'm curious to see what actions they take. AC Unity was a solid game buried under reams of crappy, online-only content and locked/gated gear. Ubi ended up removing pretty much all of it and simply unlocking gated content. This, and their efforts since Unity's poor reception, show me that they are sometimes willing to change course. Still, this current model seems like it's been lucrative in other IPs. Obviously, I've seen no numbers, but they've seemingly done very well with this nonsense in Origins and Odyssey. I imagine its success in AC is why it was stuffed into GR. I'd love to see this system go away, but I'm not holding my breath (for AC in particular, as I don't play their other IPs). I'm also afraid that it would simply be replaced by something worse. for clarification your talking about pretty much the inventory? Yeah, all of the +XYZ gear they've piled into their games. It's an obvious money grab and it hurts the quality of their games. Still, I've seen worse money grabs, so I grit my teeth and bear it. EDIT: I just went back and read the recent discussion on this topic. I'm not sure there's much else to be said that hasn't already been covered. I was very late to the party. 😆
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Post by colfoley on Nov 12, 2019 6:18:18 GMT
for clarification your talking about pretty much the inventory? Yeah, all of the +XYZ gear they've piled into their games. It's an obvious money grab and it hurts the quality of their games. Still, I've seen worse money grabs, so I grit my teeth and bear it. EDIT: I just went back and read the recent discussion on this topic. I'm not sure there's much else to be said that hasn't already been covered. I was very late to the party. 😆 its ok.  Inventory systems usually annoy me and to be fair Breakpoint has one of the worse. Especially compared to Wildlands. I liked how Andromeda does it.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 13, 2019 10:36:57 GMT
Yeah, all of the +XYZ gear they've piled into their games. It's an obvious money grab and it hurts the quality of their games. Still, I've seen worse money grabs, so I grit my teeth and bear it. EDIT: I just went back and read the recent discussion on this topic. I'm not sure there's much else to be said that hasn't already been covered. I was very late to the party. 😆 its ok.  Inventory systems usually annoy me and to be fair Breakpoint has one of the worse. Especially compared to Wildlands. I liked how Andromeda does it. All gear, except crafted gear, is crap? And everything placed in folders to look like nobody had the time to rework the placeholder design for crafting. To me it was a result of the rushed development and lack of extra time to work on it. I am sure it would have been worse otherwise  Developers nowadays forget that sometimes basic is better than complex and convoluted (SWTOR 6.0, I am looking at you...).
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Post by colfoley on Nov 13, 2019 10:43:49 GMT
its ok.  Inventory systems usually annoy me and to be fair Breakpoint has one of the worse. Especially compared to Wildlands. I liked how Andromeda does it. All gear, except crafted gear, is crap? And everything placed in folders to look like nobody had the time to rework the placeholder design for crafting. To me it was a result of the rushed development and lack of extra time to work on it. I am sure it would have been worse otherwise  Developers nowadays forget that sometimes basic is better than complex and convoluted (SWTOR 6.0, I am looking at you...). uh...no? I mean first off the crafting system in Andromeda was kind of meh I can't sort through what of my gear was crafted and what wasn't. All I really did was whip up the occasional weapon without old fashioned heat synths. Even if this were true...it's not a complaint. Second you can basically only equip gear on the ship or at the forwards stations, huge win in my book.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 13, 2019 11:03:38 GMT
Second you can basically only equip gear on the ship or at the forwards stations, huge win in my book. Yeah, but this ruins my RP of Scott and Cora switching gear in the tight Nomad space. It breaks "ma immersion", why can't we strip everywhere? And didn't you like the AC Odyssey's options to go from full metal gear to a loin cloth in an instant?  I just wish the NPCs commented on that or reacted in some way. I swear, oiled Kassandra should be able to walk into any fort without ever raising the alarm.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 13, 2019 18:30:50 GMT
Second you can basically only equip gear on the ship or at the forwards stations, huge win in my book. Yeah, but this ruins my RP of Scott and Cora switching gear in the tight Nomad space. It breaks "ma immersion", why can't we strip everywhere? And didn't you like the AC Odyssey's options to go from full metal gear to a loin cloth in an instant?  I just wish the NPCs commented on that or reacted in some way. I swear, oiled Kassandra should be able to walk into any fort without ever raising the alarm. if you're talking about the transmog then I have a love hate relationship with it. Only thing I liked about the ACOD inventory system was that it was effectively limitles.
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Post by AnDromedary on Nov 14, 2019 20:54:47 GMT
I really don't get what the problem with AC: Origin/Odyssey's inventory system is supposed to be. I loved being able to equip my character with all these options. Sure, they did put in the store but I never felt like I really needed any of this stuff, there were plenty of options in the game itself and just getting some random store items through the dayly quests was actually kinda fun. As long as they maintain a balance like that, I am perfectly fine with it.
Also, I thought the UI for the inventory was fine in the AC games. Way better than Andromeda which IMO had one of the worst UIs ever conceived (not just for the inventory but also for the quest log and the codex, the folder structure and the way screen space was used was infuriating especially on PC where you have a mouse curser).
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 18, 2019 3:41:22 GMT
I hate the move to "gear with stats" for the series. It definitely isn't going anywhere, as it's the avenue to easy MTs. Still, it just creates clutter in what had long been a nice, clean part of the game.
Just an hour ago I spent 5M drachmae upgrading legendaries that wont be bumped to 99 via gameplay. I did it solely to clear some space in the bank vault so that I'll be able to sell gear for a while. I get tired of continuously needing to sell and disassemble gear in this game. I hate bulky inventories. I like character builds and optimization more than most, but gear need to be such a big part of it.
I love the visual customization feature that was added. I hope it becomes standard in this series, and catches on in other games. Again, though, I only end up using a few looks over 150 hours of gameplay. I hate the fantasy weapons and armor. (This includes all of the super-sized weapons that could've looked okay had they been scaled properly.) I'd love to get a game that embraces and represents the beautiful clothing, weapons and armor of ages past. Conceptually, this would seem to be a great series for that, but it's never really happened.
Most gamers, movie-goers, etc... have no idea what real weapons, armor and clothing look like, nor how they worked, since no one takes the time to portray them well. As someone with an interest in this stuff, I've always found that to be disappointing.
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Post by Sanunes on Jan 18, 2020 5:16:15 GMT
I think it was a combination of what happened with the latest Ghost Recon's performance and the fact people made so many comments to it being like all the other Ubisoft games which has been a meme for awhile now. It really does feel like to me if you play one Ubisoft game you have played the all, even the uniqueness of their franchises are slowly being removed for as much as I have enjoyed Assassin's Creed Odyssey it felt more combat orientated then stealth based like my personal favorite of Assassin's Creed Syndicate.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 18, 2020 10:47:04 GMT
Just an FYI for anyone that cares to;
Ubisoft is one of the developers with their own subforum, so if you want a 'news' thread for Ubisoft the company in general - similar to the Twitter threads for Anthem, DA and ME - go for it.
It is one of the main reasons a select few developers - other than Bioware - have their own subs here.
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