saandrig
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 3,981 Likes: 8,670
inherit
2719
0
8,670
saandrig
3,981
January 2017
saandrig
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by saandrig on Oct 25, 2019 22:53:26 GMT
Or they just figured they need more time to polish the games, remove predatory MTX and win back some good will with better releases. We have no idea whether the delayed games would have included 'predatory' MTX's. And we'll never know AC Odyssey's store was perfect. No idea about Breakpoint, but I just look at FIFA, 2k20 and what is being said about the new COD and wonder if Ubi wanted to dip their fingers in that jar too.
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Member is Online
37,078
colfoley
19,175
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Oct 26, 2019 0:37:36 GMT
We have no idea whether the delayed games would have included 'predatory' MTX's. And we'll never know AC Odyssey's store was perfect. No idea about Breakpoint, but I just look at FIFA, 2k20 and what is being said about the new COD and wonder if Ubi wanted to dip their fingers in that jar too. Breakpoints less predatory then Odysseys.
|
|
inherit
57
0
1
35,528
SofaJockey
Not a jockey. Has a sofa.
13,924
August 2016
sofajockey
SofaJockey
SofaJockey
6000
7164
|
Post by SofaJockey on Oct 26, 2019 4:52:13 GMT
And we'll never know AC Odyssey's store was perfect. No idea about Breakpoint, but I just look at FIFA, 2k20 and what is being said about the new COD and wonder if Ubi wanted to dip their fingers in that jar too. For sure, there have certainly been predatory MTX in games. But Ubi's have typically sat between that and none. So fake outrage about them in their games has been rather irresponsible.
|
|
inherit
57
0
1
35,528
SofaJockey
Not a jockey. Has a sofa.
13,924
August 2016
sofajockey
SofaJockey
SofaJockey
6000
7164
|
Post by SofaJockey on Oct 27, 2019 19:09:10 GMT
Breakpoints less predatory then Odysseys. If I went into the paid store now and bought everything I was interested in, it would cost me about $10. There isn't anything in the paid store, it seems to me, that doesn't have a similar version that can be obtained fairly easily by playing the game.
|
|
inherit
9105
0
Aug 11, 2017 18:04:01 GMT
8,936
slimgrin727
I don't stir, I work the material.
3,661
Jul 28, 2017 17:05:24 GMT
July 2017
slimgrin727
|
Post by slimgrin727 on Oct 27, 2019 23:56:14 GMT
It hurts their games. It hurts progression as well.
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,782
Element Zero
7,451
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Nov 11, 2019 22:19:33 GMT
I hadn't realized that Breakpoint was bombing so badly. In response, Ubisoft has delayed the next two quarters of games, if I've heard correctly. They're going to make sure they're finely polished and truly ready for launch, apparently. Novel concepts, those.
I enjoy the AC series, but I hate the gear slots, MTs and such that have become the new norm. Ubisoft being who they are, of course they decided to implement the exact same model in every IP. Having to outfit my assassin in 8 different pieces of gear plus a mount was annoying enough. Gloves and kneepads with stats in a shooter? That's even worse.
I hope Ubi backs off even just a little bit on the overabundance of MTs. It mars otherwise enjoyable games. For me, they create subsystems in AC that are entirely out of place.
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Member is Online
37,078
colfoley
19,175
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Nov 11, 2019 23:02:32 GMT
I hadn't realized that Breakpoint was bombing so badly. In response, Ubisoft has delayed the next two quarters of games, if I've heard correctly. They're going to make sure they're finely polished and truly ready for launch, apparently. Novel concepts, those. I enjoy the AC series, but I hate the gear slots, MTs and such that have become the new norm. Ubisoft being who they are, of course they decided to implement the exact same model in every IP. Having to outfit my assassin in 8 different pieces of gear plus a mount was annoying enough. Gloves and kneepads with stats in a shooter? That's even worse. I hope Ubi backs off even just a little bit on the overabundance of MTs. It mars otherwise enjoyable games. For me, they create subsystems in AC that are entirely out of place. its not really that...omni present. The gear score is a little annoying at times but hopefully when they fix it...and they said they will, it will really be no different then any other shooter or RPG like ME.
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,782
Element Zero
7,451
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Nov 12, 2019 5:40:02 GMT
I hadn't realized that Breakpoint was bombing so badly. In response, Ubisoft has delayed the next two quarters of games, if I've heard correctly. They're going to make sure they're finely polished and truly ready for launch, apparently. Novel concepts, those. I enjoy the AC series, but I hate the gear slots, MTs and such that have become the new norm. Ubisoft being who they are, of course they decided to implement the exact same model in every IP. Having to outfit my assassin in 8 different pieces of gear plus a mount was annoying enough. Gloves and kneepads with stats in a shooter? That's even worse. I hope Ubi backs off even just a little bit on the overabundance of MTs. It mars otherwise enjoyable games. For me, they create subsystems in AC that are entirely out of place. its not really that...omni present. The gear score is a little annoying at times but hopefully when they fix it...and they said they will, it will really be no different then any other shooter or RPG like ME. I'm curious to see what actions they take. AC Unity was a solid game buried under reams of crappy, online-only content and locked/gated gear. Ubi ended up removing pretty much all of it and simply unlocking gated content. This, and their efforts since Unity's poor reception, show me that they are sometimes willing to change course. Still, this current model seems like it's been lucrative in other IPs. Obviously, I've seen no numbers, but they've seemingly done very well with this nonsense in Origins and Odyssey. I imagine its success in AC is why it was stuffed into GR. I'd love to see this system go away, but I'm not holding my breath (for AC in particular, as I don't play their other IPs). I'm also afraid that it would simply be replaced by something worse.
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Member is Online
37,078
colfoley
19,175
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Nov 12, 2019 5:51:28 GMT
its not really that...omni present. The gear score is a little annoying at times but hopefully when they fix it...and they said they will, it will really be no different then any other shooter or RPG like ME. I'm curious to see what actions they take. AC Unity was a solid game buried under reams of crappy, online-only content and locked/gated gear. Ubi ended up removing pretty much all of it and simply unlocking gated content. This, and their efforts since Unity's poor reception, show me that they are sometimes willing to change course. Still, this current model seems like it's been lucrative in other IPs. Obviously, I've seen no numbers, but they've seemingly done very well with this nonsense in Origins and Odyssey. I imagine its success in AC is why it was stuffed into GR. I'd love to see this system go away, but I'm not holding my breath (for AC in particular, as I don't play their other IPs). I'm also afraid that it would simply be replaced by something worse. for clarification your talking about pretty much the inventory?
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,782
Element Zero
7,451
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Nov 12, 2019 6:05:12 GMT
I'm curious to see what actions they take. AC Unity was a solid game buried under reams of crappy, online-only content and locked/gated gear. Ubi ended up removing pretty much all of it and simply unlocking gated content. This, and their efforts since Unity's poor reception, show me that they are sometimes willing to change course. Still, this current model seems like it's been lucrative in other IPs. Obviously, I've seen no numbers, but they've seemingly done very well with this nonsense in Origins and Odyssey. I imagine its success in AC is why it was stuffed into GR. I'd love to see this system go away, but I'm not holding my breath (for AC in particular, as I don't play their other IPs). I'm also afraid that it would simply be replaced by something worse. for clarification your talking about pretty much the inventory? Yeah, all of the +XYZ gear they've piled into their games. It's an obvious money grab and it hurts the quality of their games. Still, I've seen worse money grabs, so I grit my teeth and bear it. EDIT: I just went back and read the recent discussion on this topic. I'm not sure there's much else to be said that hasn't already been covered. I was very late to the party. 😆
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Member is Online
37,078
colfoley
19,175
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Nov 12, 2019 6:18:18 GMT
for clarification your talking about pretty much the inventory? Yeah, all of the +XYZ gear they've piled into their games. It's an obvious money grab and it hurts the quality of their games. Still, I've seen worse money grabs, so I grit my teeth and bear it. EDIT: I just went back and read the recent discussion on this topic. I'm not sure there's much else to be said that hasn't already been covered. I was very late to the party. 😆 its ok. Inventory systems usually annoy me and to be fair Breakpoint has one of the worse. Especially compared to Wildlands. I liked how Andromeda does it.
|
|
saandrig
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 3,981 Likes: 8,670
inherit
2719
0
8,670
saandrig
3,981
January 2017
saandrig
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by saandrig on Nov 13, 2019 10:36:57 GMT
Yeah, all of the +XYZ gear they've piled into their games. It's an obvious money grab and it hurts the quality of their games. Still, I've seen worse money grabs, so I grit my teeth and bear it. EDIT: I just went back and read the recent discussion on this topic. I'm not sure there's much else to be said that hasn't already been covered. I was very late to the party. 😆 its ok. Inventory systems usually annoy me and to be fair Breakpoint has one of the worse. Especially compared to Wildlands. I liked how Andromeda does it. All gear, except crafted gear, is crap? And everything placed in folders to look like nobody had the time to rework the placeholder design for crafting. To me it was a result of the rushed development and lack of extra time to work on it. I am sure it would have been worse otherwise Developers nowadays forget that sometimes basic is better than complex and convoluted (SWTOR 6.0, I am looking at you...).
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Member is Online
37,078
colfoley
19,175
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Nov 13, 2019 10:43:49 GMT
its ok. Inventory systems usually annoy me and to be fair Breakpoint has one of the worse. Especially compared to Wildlands. I liked how Andromeda does it. All gear, except crafted gear, is crap? And everything placed in folders to look like nobody had the time to rework the placeholder design for crafting. To me it was a result of the rushed development and lack of extra time to work on it. I am sure it would have been worse otherwise Developers nowadays forget that sometimes basic is better than complex and convoluted (SWTOR 6.0, I am looking at you...). uh...no? I mean first off the crafting system in Andromeda was kind of meh I can't sort through what of my gear was crafted and what wasn't. All I really did was whip up the occasional weapon without old fashioned heat synths. Even if this were true...it's not a complaint. Second you can basically only equip gear on the ship or at the forwards stations, huge win in my book.
|
|
saandrig
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 3,981 Likes: 8,670
inherit
2719
0
8,670
saandrig
3,981
January 2017
saandrig
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by saandrig on Nov 13, 2019 11:03:38 GMT
Second you can basically only equip gear on the ship or at the forwards stations, huge win in my book. Yeah, but this ruins my RP of Scott and Cora switching gear in the tight Nomad space. It breaks "ma immersion", why can't we strip everywhere? And didn't you like the AC Odyssey's options to go from full metal gear to a loin cloth in an instant? I just wish the NPCs commented on that or reacted in some way. I swear, oiled Kassandra should be able to walk into any fort without ever raising the alarm.
|
|
inherit
1033
0
Member is Online
37,078
colfoley
19,175
Aug 17, 2016 10:19:37 GMT
August 2016
colfoley
|
Post by colfoley on Nov 13, 2019 18:30:50 GMT
Second you can basically only equip gear on the ship or at the forwards stations, huge win in my book. Yeah, but this ruins my RP of Scott and Cora switching gear in the tight Nomad space. It breaks "ma immersion", why can't we strip everywhere? And didn't you like the AC Odyssey's options to go from full metal gear to a loin cloth in an instant? I just wish the NPCs commented on that or reacted in some way. I swear, oiled Kassandra should be able to walk into any fort without ever raising the alarm. if you're talking about the transmog then I have a love hate relationship with it. Only thing I liked about the ACOD inventory system was that it was effectively limitles.
|
|
inherit
2044
0
Nov 10, 2016 16:47:07 GMT
10,275
AnDromedary
4,446
Nov 10, 2016 16:30:09 GMT
November 2016
andromedary
|
Post by AnDromedary on Nov 14, 2019 20:54:47 GMT
I really don't get what the problem with AC: Origin/Odyssey's inventory system is supposed to be. I loved being able to equip my character with all these options. Sure, they did put in the store but I never felt like I really needed any of this stuff, there were plenty of options in the game itself and just getting some random store items through the dayly quests was actually kinda fun. As long as they maintain a balance like that, I am perfectly fine with it.
Also, I thought the UI for the inventory was fine in the AC games. Way better than Andromeda which IMO had one of the worst UIs ever conceived (not just for the inventory but also for the quest log and the codex, the folder structure and the way screen space was used was infuriating especially on PC where you have a mouse curser).
|
|
inherit
ღ Voice of Reason
169
0
17,782
Element Zero
7,451
August 2016
elementzero
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by Element Zero on Nov 18, 2019 3:41:22 GMT
I hate the move to "gear with stats" for the series. It definitely isn't going anywhere, as it's the avenue to easy MTs. Still, it just creates clutter in what had long been a nice, clean part of the game.
Just an hour ago I spent 5M drachmae upgrading legendaries that wont be bumped to 99 via gameplay. I did it solely to clear some space in the bank vault so that I'll be able to sell gear for a while. I get tired of continuously needing to sell and disassemble gear in this game. I hate bulky inventories. I like character builds and optimization more than most, but gear need to be such a big part of it.
I love the visual customization feature that was added. I hope it becomes standard in this series, and catches on in other games. Again, though, I only end up using a few looks over 150 hours of gameplay. I hate the fantasy weapons and armor. (This includes all of the super-sized weapons that could've looked okay had they been scaled properly.) I'd love to get a game that embraces and represents the beautiful clothing, weapons and armor of ages past. Conceptually, this would seem to be a great series for that, but it's never really happened.
Most gamers, movie-goers, etc... have no idea what real weapons, armor and clothing look like, nor how they worked, since no one takes the time to portray them well. As someone with an interest in this stuff, I've always found that to be disappointing.
|
|
azarhal
N7
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 9,772 Likes: 27,730
Member is Online
inherit
1519
0
Member is Online
27,730
azarhal
9,772
Sept 9, 2016 12:15:16 GMT
September 2016
azarhal
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by azarhal on Jan 17, 2020 19:06:09 GMT
|
|
Sanunes
N6
Just a flip of the coin.
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Prime Posts: 4392
Prime Likes: 882
Posts: 6,004 Likes: 9,088
inherit
1561
0
9,088
Sanunes
Just a flip of the coin.
6,004
Sept 13, 2016 11:51:12 GMT
September 2016
sanunes
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
4392
882
|
Post by Sanunes on Jan 18, 2020 5:16:15 GMT
I think it was a combination of what happened with the latest Ghost Recon's performance and the fact people made so many comments to it being like all the other Ubisoft games which has been a meme for awhile now. It really does feel like to me if you play one Ubisoft game you have played the all, even the uniqueness of their franchises are slowly being removed for as much as I have enjoyed Assassin's Creed Odyssey it felt more combat orientated then stealth based like my personal favorite of Assassin's Creed Syndicate.
|
|
inherit
401
0
1
44,780
DragonKingReborn
21,664
August 2016
dragonkingreborn
http://bsn.boards.net/threads/recent/143
https://i.imgur.com/1myVt9D.jpg
DragonKingReborn
Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Dragon Age The Veilguard
887
590
|
Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 18, 2020 10:47:04 GMT
Just an FYI for anyone that cares to;
Ubisoft is one of the developers with their own subforum, so if you want a 'news' thread for Ubisoft the company in general - similar to the Twitter threads for Anthem, DA and ME - go for it.
It is one of the main reasons a select few developers - other than Bioware - have their own subs here.
|
|
Cyberstrike
N4
is wanting to have some fun!
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
XBL Gamertag: cyberstrike nTo
PSN: cyberstrike-nTo
Prime Posts: 1,732
Prime Likes: 467
Posts: 1,940 Likes: 3,178
inherit
634
0
May 14, 2017 17:50:43 GMT
3,178
Cyberstrike
is wanting to have some fun!
1,940
August 2016
cyberstrike
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
cyberstrike nTo
cyberstrike-nTo
1,732
467
|
Post by Cyberstrike on May 1, 2023 1:10:29 GMT
When Ubisoft released Assassin's Creed: Odyssey it was marketed (or came off as at least) as a fantasy action RPG at time when no one was releasing one. Think about it Skyrim, DAI, and TW3 were done and while you could still and many people still play them but after a while even with all the player mods for Skyrim and DAI it does become the same game no matter what gender, race, class, morality, and etc you play as and to be fair the DAI MP is kind of bland. There was nothing new from AAA developers that were coming out in that genre for YEARS. So either by dumb luck or design or both Ubisoft had just enough fantasy elements to rather stale and tired stealth action game series that needed a shot in the arm and released a beautiful looking, open world action RPG with a strong female character that had to make tough moral decisions and it used history to tell a great story, with great action set pieces, and while it's main story line quest was serious it still had enough side quests that had a sense of humor and easily some great DLC and expansions. It was also a great jumping on point for new players: like me. I feel like I could shape Kassandra's character and personality and her story more than the heroes in Origins and Valhalla.
Now I have played Origins it's good (I feel if Aya had been the main character and not her husband I've would liked it better because Aya is awesome while her husband is just cool) but overall IMHO it's still feels like a rough draft of Odyssey. But did the success and goodwill of Odyssey and Valhalla (which according to Ubisoft are the best selling games in the history of the Assassin's Creed franchise) along with games like Farcry series and the various Tom Clancy games redeem Ubisoft?
In my honest opinion: No. They did not redeem Ubisoft not one bit.
While EA, Activision-Blizzard, and the others were raked and lambasted and rightly so for the lootboxes and MTs, they had put them in mostly in the MP modes of the games whereas Ubisoft tried a different tack especially with the Assassin's Creed Layla Miller Trilogy they put them in the single player modes while most are just cosmetic (weapons, armor, mounts, tattoos, hair styles, village decorations, and so on) they also added boosters for XP, money, and resources in the game to make the game less of a grind and I tried to play without them but playing Assassin's Creed: Odyssey without the boosters is boring and it takes forever and these games are FUCKING HUGE and take a long time to play even with the boosters but they did it regardless. They've been called for it but nowhere to the degree that EA and Activison-Blizzard got. They've been called out for their use of political iconography in the trailers for several of the Tom Clancy games and the politics in the various Farcry and Watchdogs games while also stating that "Ubisoft is apolitical." which I think is bullshit if you're going to use political images, real-world events, and historical political references, you're not apolitical you're political so just own up to it! Or is lines in Assassin's Creed: Odyssey like "We're going to make Athens great again!" and one of the NPCs refer to one of the game's villains as "The orange ape" don't seem like apolitical to me, they seem like political statements that were created to make a political statement against a group and currently a former US President. Valhalla isn't as overtly politically but it does deal with the political machinations of Dark Ages England, Norway, Asgard, the Catholic Church, and the various Vikings Clans, and in DLC the politics of Ireland, and France and other Norse Mythological realms are also brought up and Eivor gets involved with the politics in all those places to a certain degree while in the present day there is an email that Layla Miller refers to Covid 19. But Ubisoft swears up and down there are no politics in their games so yeah tell me another lie. Then there is confusing as hell multiple and expensive releases of their games, their expensive season passes huge updates and patches. Then their is the sexual abuse scandals that came out a few years ago (around the time that Valhalla came out) that made Ubisoft a living hell to work for if you were a woman and crunch is a huge problem there as well.
Ubisoft makes some damn good hell even some great some games but like every major video game developer and publisher they have a LOT of problems both with how their company works and the games work (or in some cases don't work), and the marketing of their games. When they make high quality games like UNO, Assassin's Creed: Origins, Assassin's Creed: Odyssey and Assassin's Creed: Valhalla we shouldn't overlook the many, many, MANY problems that plague Ubisoft and the same with EA, Activision-Blizzard, CDPR, Bethesda, BioWare, Capcom, Square-Enix and the rest.
|
|