Should bioware do one final shepard game?

I'm sorry, but that's as far as I got and that's all the game gave me. I didn't care for it. Like I said, I played Inquisition for 30 hours and after a while, I stopped talking to the party members, because they didn't get new dialogue, because I needed to do sidequests, to progress the main story, to get more character interactions and I just gave up. I didn't care for it. And the game did little to incentivize me to change that, because I just didn't enjoy it. If it get better, after the 30 hour mark, I don't care.

I played the game, I did not finish the game and I only got up to a point, before giving up. Because I just wasn't enjoying what I was getting out of it. In fact, I felt relief when I put it down and realize that the only person forcing me to play this game, was me.


I'm sure there are people that loved the game. But how many people who bought it, did not even finish the game? How many gave up? How many disliked what they got, like me? And, not to mention, a lot of game critics, I will mention Alanah Pearce in particular, who has come out on several occasions about reviewers being scared to criticize games, partly because of fans and makes a special mention of being scared to criticize Andromeda, specifically. So while the MMO tier fetch quests are definitely a hindrance, level design is definitely a hindrance, a lot of people will be scared to criticize other parts, because they don't want to appear too negative and provoke backlash. Whether I did not finish the game, is not on me. It's on Bioware. If I had enjoyed the experience more, I would have played it more. I didn't.

It is relevant. If you quit the game before reaching the "good part", it should not be on the player. It's the same defense people gave Final Fantasy 13. You remember who criticized that game? Doesn't look like a fair dismissal to me.

I'd like to interject that this isn't just my own criticism. You can dismiss it as hearsay, if you want. That'd be fair. It is entirely possible you've never heard a criticism about anyone putting the game down, due to the story or the characters not gripping them. Depending who you interact with.


I think the game should make you want to know what happens, not make you drop it. I rarely put a game that I want to play down and not finish it.


You do you.

So you're saying that a movie like Terminator: Dark Fate didn't suffer from brand damage? Did that movie cause brand damage to the franchise? The fact that the franchise died because of it, is no indication of that brand damage? What would you consider evidence of brand damage? If you can't measure brand damage until the franchise is irrevocably dead, you're doing something wrong. And I need to remind people, ME died once already. The franchise limped its way to its own death.


Assuming Bioware addresses all internal problems, how can you hook people back? Because, as I believe I've established that people won't be hooked by the idea of "Next Bioware game", because of Bioware's current reputation. Bioware doesn't have the audience's trust anymore. And you can see that by the gaming audience's waning interest in Bioware titles, with each new release.


Do I have to present examples from the games that lack these? I haven't played these games in years and I have no desire to, but I don't remember having any satisfactory response to anything. And, fuck, the DA:I dialogue system is a nightmare to navigate. Like I have no intention of save scumming before every dialogue to find one option that I find satisfactory, out of 8 samey passive aggressive ones, with a vague description and having to resort to a stupid icon that supposedly helps you understand the tone of the answer you're going to give, but it's fucking retarded trying to make sense out of a teary eyed emoji fucking icon or what the fuck the moon/crescent looking icon is suppose to convey that ... Jesus Christ, I never want to touch Inquisition again.

I've made myself mad, just trying to remember that shit. I can't have this conversation.

All of it, then. All the dialogues, all the time. Everything. That's my example.

And I'm asking, if no "normal" entry comes out and the brand just dies, what then?


Controversy usually sparks interest, though. So it's more likely that people would tune in, just to see what went "wrong", or if "wrong" even exists in the first place. But I guess that is the point. Which means that even less people would turn up without it.


I will, unfortunately, take it as seriously as I do.


Out of the question. No. It's non descriptive, except in extreme choices of dialogue, where it is obvious either way what you're going to say. Like, I don't need the blood dripping dagger icon to understand that the "fuck you" option is going to anger someone.

Just death? You're not going to examine what cost you that loss of customer base? What to rectify? Just keep on running yourself into the ground and wonder "how could this happen"? Doesn't seem like a responsible attitude, to me.


Apparently, a lot of people went out and bought games that AVGN covered and burned, because they were so bad, that they got entertainment value out of them. I watched the Twillight films, because they were so bad. I got the Dungeons and Dragons movie DVD, because it was so bad. Yes, people buy bad things for good laughs. Especially in 2017, when the economy was doing a lot better and people had some disposable income, so that $60 wasn't that big a deal. I'd argue that ME:A's controversy sold it a lot more copies, than it would have got without it.


In that case, it's descriptive capabilities are garbage. I never, ever want to use the DA wheel ever again. If it makes a comeback in DA4, I will not even try the game.

You're losing the plot here. "Just keep running yourself into the ground" is not the same thing as never releasing another entry in a series. Which one are we talking about?

Yeah, no. There's a difference between "people think the story is bad" bad, and "this is broken" bad. Andromeda was the latter. That's not going to garner sales.

I just watched this video and then played the beginning of the game to look at all the options in that first conversation (that 30 fps bug is so awful - it's not just the framerate, but the pacing is terrible too). There are for choices, and the actual spoken dialogue line is as follows:

- crying eye: "I can't believe it. All those people...dead."
- angry fist: "Whatever you think I did, I'm innocent!"
- confused head: "I don't understand."
- arms folded: "So what happens now?"

So I'd say the symbols are all pretty accurate.

I did notice that the paraphrased line for the angry fist was "Let me go!" That's absolutely a different statement from what was actually spoken. But that's a different issue from what you complained about before. It's possible to have a dialogue wheel with full lines. It's possible to have no dialogue wheel with tones or paraphrased lines.