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Post by garrusfan1 on Aug 10, 2019 1:58:39 GMT
I think it would help renergize the series and admittedly I want to play as shep again. It would also help bring the series forward in the milky way if they chose to go forward with that.
They could have shep and crew deal with the levitheans that might become a problem again. Or something smaller like having the game go forward ten years and just when the galaxy is starting to reunite people are trying to tear races apart to gain power. Or something on a smaller scale.
This wouldn't need to be another trilogy just one more game.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 10, 2019 3:08:09 GMT
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 10, 2019 3:27:35 GMT
I'm neutral in the abstract, but all of the detailed proposals for doing this have had insoluble conceptual flaws. Since I see no reason for this to change, I vote no.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 10, 2019 3:29:39 GMT
And who are you kidding with "one last game"? You'd be back asking for another the week after it shipped.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 4:53:59 GMT
No, Shepard himself said he'd retire after ME3.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 10, 2019 7:24:46 GMT
It was done already, ME3
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Post by Phantom on Aug 10, 2019 18:26:40 GMT
Well I don't see the need of Shepard returning. I know several people would love to see him return. If there was a Milk Way Mass Effect game, the Player character should stand on their own two feet(or more depending on the species).
I know that they are slow, but I would love to roleplay as an Elcor. The reason is to be difference from Shepard and Ryder.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Aug 10, 2019 19:27:49 GMT
No. Shepard's story is over and there is nothing there left to tell.
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 10, 2019 21:30:47 GMT
I said yes and only because I want to have Jack find me in the rubble via the omni tattoo she put on me (really love that part when she chokes up, true love ) but come to think of it I think it would be great if they made the game to where all your saved LI found you at the beginning of the game but Hey! that's just me
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Post by garrusfan1 on Aug 11, 2019 1:11:11 GMT
I said yes and only because I want to have Jack find me in the rubble via the omni tattoo she put on me (really love that part when she chokes up, true love ) but come to think of it I think it would be great if they made the game to where all you saved LI found at the beginning of the game but Hey! that's just me It's sweet. I admit one of my big reasons for wanting another game is to get more time with the crew. I really wish we would have gotten more closure with our crew and LI's. Also was that part in the citadel dlc?
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Post by NotN7 on Aug 11, 2019 5:07:12 GMT
I said yes and only because I want to have Jack find me in the rubble via the omni tattoo she put on me (really love that part when she chokes up, true love ) but come to think of it I think it would be great if they made the game to where all you saved LI found at the beginning of the game but Hey! that's just me It's sweet. I admit one of my big reasons for wanting another game is to get more time with the crew. I really wish we would have gotten more closure with our crew and LI's. Also was that part in the citadel dlc? Yes it was, you had if I remember correctly to do the arena then you get a message on your phone for an invite. but again she had to be a LI she shows up after you break the score board.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 13, 2019 17:11:28 GMT
Great, if Bioware does the opposite of what the BSN decides, they might actually sell some copies with their next game.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Aug 13, 2019 17:55:45 GMT
Great, if Bioware does the opposite of what the BSN decides, they might actually sell some copies with their next game. So you think they should? Also I love your pic of jack and miranda.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 13, 2019 18:53:23 GMT
Also I love your pic of jack and miranda. Underrated pairing with great potential to be besties; two flip sides of the same coin that can antagonize each other, without directly competing with each other, can pass the Bechdel test and still make for compelling, feminine, though one of them is very unconventionally so and relatable characters? And the most Bioware explored any of that was maybe 5 or so lines over 2 games? You fucking bet I would headcanon and explore/expand their friendship on my own/related fan media because I have no hope of Bioware ever returning and doing their characters justice on their own. So you think they should? Shepard and potentially co. are the biggest hook I can think of to entice old fans back and to get non-fans to come check what the fuss is all about. Like getting the Chief back for Halo. Some might see it as a desperate move, sure, but nobody will acknowledge it as a bad one, for commercial reasons. If Bioware has been saving that move for the day they fall for grace, I think now is the time to take advantage of it.
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 13, 2019 19:03:54 GMT
Yeah, but like I said upthread, the problem is implementation. Incorporating choices from the previous games was already approaching unfeasible with ME3. The problem would be much worse in ME5.
Unless the great unwashed masses out there really don't care about this stuff? Conceivable, but I'd need to see some sort of data on that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 13, 2019 19:30:30 GMT
Yeah, but like I said upthread, the problem is implementation. Incorporating choices from the previous games was already approaching unfeasible with ME3. The problem would be much worse in ME5. Unless the great unwashed masses out there really don't care about this stuff? Conceivable, but I'd need to see some sort of data on that. Part of the data here. I really don't fucking care what the conclusions were, I just want the OT's unrealized potential be somehow realized, mainly the character development parts and especially the obvious arcs that were dropped because, chop-chop, we got a 18 month deadline to make the biggest game in the trilogy, drop every character and focus on Liara and Garrus exclusively. And remember; best place to start the trilogy!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 23:50:32 GMT
Shepard and potentially co. are the biggest hook I can think of to entice old fans back and to get non-fans to come check what the fuss is all about. Like getting the Chief back for Halo. Some might see it as a desperate move, sure, but nobody will acknowledge it as a bad one, for commercial reasons. If Bioware has been saving that move for the day they fall for grace, I think now is the time to take advantage of it. For some people, the Mass Effect universe revolves around Shepard, their crew, and the stories within it. Anything else isn't considered Mass Effect to those people.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 14, 2019 13:09:24 GMT
For some people, the Mass Effect universe revolves around Shepard, their crew, and the stories within it. Anything else isn't considered Mass Effect to those people. If Andromeda hadn't proven to be such a mess, if everything Bioware has introduced in nearly the past decade now hadn't proven to be severely inadequate to what we already had and could potentially have again, I would not argue against ditching the MW entirely. But as a result, ME has suffered, Bioware has suffered and we have suffered. If we are to hope that Bioware gets to make another game in the ME universe, it better be something that people will care about. Andromeda 2's pitch is essentially "remember the things you didn't like the first time? Here they are again". Nobody's going to give a shit. "But it's from Bioware!" Oh, the same studio that made the original turd and ... what the fuck is this Anthem shit, lol.
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Post by Pounce de León on Aug 14, 2019 13:56:42 GMT
No.
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 14, 2019 14:42:38 GMT
The choice of protagonist is unrelated to the quality of the writing and the game in general.
So, no. Shepard's story is over anyway.
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Post by Phantom on Aug 14, 2019 15:47:43 GMT
No. Shepard's story is over and there is nothing there left to tell. Keep in mind that Like Revan of Kotor fame, Shepard has a plenty of Charisma to him. Thus many players would love to have him to return. IF we ever have another Milk way Mass Effect game, it doesn't need Shepard. There are plenty of possible of player characters that Bioware could develop. Right now, I can think of at least possible 8 Possible Player Characters that Mass Effect fanbase that could like if they went back to the Milk way. If They went back with Ryder within ME:A, I prefer that he and his twin investiages the Remnant more fully to see how they connect back to everything
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 14, 2019 16:10:42 GMT
What was the question? The choice of protagonist is unrelated to the quality of the writing and the game in general. So, no. Shepard's story is over anyway. True, but the choice of protagonist can be related to commercial reception and pre-release media related content.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 19:01:03 GMT
For some people, the Mass Effect universe revolves around Shepard, their crew, and the stories within it. Anything else isn't considered Mass Effect to those people. If Andromeda hadn't proven to be such a mess, if everything Bioware has introduced in nearly the past decade now hadn't proven to be severely inadequate to what we already had and could potentially have again, I would not argue against ditching the MW entirely. But as a result, ME has suffered, Bioware has suffered and we have suffered. If we are to hope that Bioware gets to make another game in the ME universe, it better be something that people will care about. Andromeda 2's pitch is essentially "remember the things you didn't like the first time? Here they are again". Nobody's going to give a shit. "But it's from Bioware!" Oh, the same studio that made the original turd and ... what the fuck is this Anthem shit, lol. If I'm reading this right, the choice to go to Andromeda has made the franchise suffer.
We'll see what Bioware does, but in regards to the title of this thread, I don't think the next game will feature Shepard. They will not bring him back from the dead. Or pull a Jack Bauer, and keep bringing him out of retirement to fight more terrorists.
What kinds of things do people care about?
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 14, 2019 19:12:01 GMT
If I'm reading this right, the choice to go to Andromeda has made the franchise suffer. No, Andromeda by itself is a good concept. It was poorly executed though and hasn't garnered the pull Bioware wanted it to, especially after the ME3 ending debacle. If Andromeda had been a success, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't be here. I would have got a great Andromeda. I don't think the next game will feature Shepard. Maybe it won't star Shepard, but no Shepard at all? What about old squadmates? What kinds of things do people care about? Things that they love. Family, friends, lasting relations, familiar places with fond memories, stuff like that. I mean, I'm guessing.
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