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Post by q5tyhj on Mar 31, 2022 14:19:27 GMT
Alright, let's get this over with. I'll be in the Box of Shame if anyone needs me    To elaborate on the Collector Adept, I don't hate the kit. I think I just miss those vocal responses. You know the Krogan laughter, the "textbook", "my soup" etc. With the competition being so hard among the Adepts and Vanguards, he just falls down my tier. It's the other way around with the NovaGuard. Again, it can be a very powerful kit - specially if you can exploit Nova cancelling - but I just can't stand all that screaming. Heh, I've got lots of Reegar completions too. I don't like the weapon, but its waaaaaaay easier/faster to complete the Reegar challenge to reset your Shotgun Mastery than to complete the challenge for, say, the Katana or Scimitar or something. And I make no excuses for Flamer use. Vorcha Sentinel is the best kit in the game, fite me IRL if you disagree
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Post by q5tyhj on Mar 31, 2022 16:52:46 GMT
I've only done Seeker Swarms and Biotic Orbs once those two powers score so little, that even if you play them regularly, u still wont close them naturally. Feels faster to do stupid turrets/pets points or Tech Armor or pull than those for whatever reason I've somehow completed Pull 4x, and Stasis 8x (Seeker Swarms 3x and Biotic Orbs 2x). I forget- if you prime an enemy with Pull or Stasis and then complete a combo, does the damage from that combo count towards your Pull or Stasis mastery? I can't figure out how I could possibly have completed them that many times if it doesn't. Pull does a miniscule amount of damage, and Stasis does no damage, so how would that even work?
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 1, 2022 7:20:51 GMT
I forget- if you prime an enemy with Pull or Stasis and then complete a combo, does the damage from that combo count towards your Pull or Stasis mastery? I can't figure out how I could possibly have completed them that many times if it doesn't. Pull does a miniscule amount of damage, and Stasis does no damage, so how would that even work? to be honest, i cant say much about that... Stasis deals shit damage, so is throw (a bit more) and pull. I dont detonate stasis but i complete stasis quite often, so i guess it s not the combo owner stuff, while it must play a role, it s more a ragdolling power bonus thing. Hex shield, Tech ARmor, Barrier and few other like that are also low damage but score quite fast in the CP system.
EDIT: i tested stasis only at least 20 times, gave no damage. Troopers end up damaged a bit when they fall out of stasis (i guess) or it s the 25 pts damage. But even those 25 doesnt show in the CP. Then i checked with one Headshot on mooks. Mooks HP is 1688 and is killed, it gave 105 stasis CP...
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 1, 2022 23:49:34 GMT
I forget- if you prime an enemy with Pull or Stasis and then complete a combo, does the damage from that combo count towards your Pull or Stasis mastery? I can't figure out how I could possibly have completed them that many times if it doesn't. Pull does a miniscule amount of damage, and Stasis does no damage, so how would that even work? to be honest, i cant say much about that... Stasis deals shit damage, so is throw (a bit more) and pull. I dont detonate stasis but i complete stasis quite often, so i guess it s not the combo owner stuff, while it must play a role, it s more a ragdolling power bonus thing. Hex shield, Tech ARmor, Barrier and few other like that are also low damage but score quite fast in the CP system.
EDIT: i tested stasis only at least 20 times, gave no damage. Troopers end up damaged a bit when they fall out of stasis (i guess) or it s the 25 pts damage. But even those 25 doesnt show in the CP. Then i checked with one Headshot on mooks. Mooks HP is 1688 and is killed, it gave 105 stasis CP...
I'm genuinely mystified how I got that many Stasis completions. I don't even use it that much, I never really got into Stasis sniper builds or Stasis Bubble builds or anything, my AA was always a biotic combo machine with Warp and Throw and Stasis was more for Phantom-control. And somehow I have twice as many Stasis completions as I have Barrier completions, and more than twice as many Seeker Swarm completions, even though I use the Collector and the Krogans with Barrier a ton. Weird shit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 5:17:57 GMT
to be honest, i cant say much about that... Stasis deals shit damage, so is throw (a bit more) and pull. I dont detonate stasis but i complete stasis quite often, so i guess it s not the combo owner stuff, while it must play a role, it s more a ragdolling power bonus thing. Hex shield, Tech ARmor, Barrier and few other like that are also low damage but score quite fast in the CP system.
EDIT: i tested stasis only at least 20 times, gave no damage. Troopers end up damaged a bit when they fall out of stasis (i guess) or it s the 25 pts damage. But even those 25 doesnt show in the CP. Then i checked with one Headshot on mooks. Mooks HP is 1688 and is killed, it gave 105 stasis CP...
I'm genuinely mystified how I got that many Stasis completions. I don't even use it that much, I never really got into Stasis sniper builds or Stasis Bubble builds or anything, my AA was always a biotic combo machine with Warp and Throw and Stasis was more for Phantom-control. And somehow I have twice as many Stasis completions as I have Barrier completions, and more than twice as many Seeker Swarm completions, even though I use the Collector and the Krogans with Barrier a ton. Weird shit. This is weird. Stasis is a much slower power to "rapid advance" than Barrier. Barrier - two Gold matches with KroDept, done. Stasis - eh, well, even Plat AA will take several matches. Need to Stasis every damned free Swarmer for those precious points. So, something mechanically is weird there for you, weird for me, or you play VolDept like the Biotic God you are and just didn't say it. Biotic wind ... |
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 2, 2022 12:49:14 GMT
So, something mechanically is weird there for you, weird for me, or you play VolDept like the Biotic God you are and just didn't say it. he plays in his sleep
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 2, 2022 14:45:04 GMT
I'm genuinely mystified how I got that many Stasis completions. I don't even use it that much, I never really got into Stasis sniper builds or Stasis Bubble builds or anything, my AA was always a biotic combo machine with Warp and Throw and Stasis was more for Phantom-control. And somehow I have twice as many Stasis completions as I have Barrier completions, and more than twice as many Seeker Swarm completions, even though I use the Collector and the Krogans with Barrier a ton. Weird shit. This is weird. Stasis is a much slower power to "rapid advance" than Barrier. Barrier - two Gold matches with KroDept, done. Stasis - eh, well, even Plat AA will take several matches. Need to Stasis every damned free Swarmer for those precious points. So, something mechanically is weird there for you, weird for me, or you play VolDept like the Biotic God you are and just didn't say it. Biotic wind ... the only thing I can think of is that I was probably playing AA with Stasis for a long time before I had unlocked the Collector or other Rare/UR kits and so just had a headstart? But even that doesn't seem to account for such a big difference, especially when Stasis deals virtually no damage. I'm apparently completing the Stasis challenge on about 1/3 of my Biotic Mastery completions (8x Stasis completions on 23x Biotic masteries), which just doesn't add up. I genuinely have no idea what's going on there. Just... weird shit.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 15:50:03 GMT
This is weird. Stasis is a much slower power to "rapid advance" than Barrier. Barrier - two Gold matches with KroDept, done. Stasis - eh, well, even Plat AA will take several matches. Need to Stasis every damned free Swarmer for those precious points. So, something mechanically is weird there for you, weird for me, or you play VolDept like the Biotic God you are and just didn't say it. Biotic wind ... the only thing I can think of is that I was probably playing AA with Stasis for a long time before I had unlocked the Collector or other Rare/UR kits and so just had a headstart? But even that doesn't seem to account for such a big difference, especially when Stasis deals virtually no damage. I'm apparently completing the Stasis challenge on about 1/3 of my Biotic Mastery completions (8x Stasis completions on 23x Biotic masteries), which just doesn't add up. I genuinely have no idea what's going on there. Just... weird shit. So, just for comparison purposes - I have completed Biotic Mastery 62 times. I have completed Barrier 34 times, Stasis 37. I am now also confused. (eta- for more data, Pull also at 37. Shockwave, which I use less than any other Biotic Power, is at 42 (wtf)) |
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 2, 2022 22:14:07 GMT
the only thing I can think of is that I was probably playing AA with Stasis for a long time before I had unlocked the Collector or other Rare/UR kits and so just had a headstart? But even that doesn't seem to account for such a big difference, especially when Stasis deals virtually no damage. I'm apparently completing the Stasis challenge on about 1/3 of my Biotic Mastery completions (8x Stasis completions on 23x Biotic masteries), which just doesn't add up. I genuinely have no idea what's going on there. Just... weird shit. So, just for comparison purposes - I have completed Biotic Mastery 62 times. I have completed Barrier 34 times, Stasis 37. I am now also confused. (eta- for more data, Pull also at 37. Shockwave, which I use less than any other Biotic Power, is at 42 (wtf)) Yeah exactly, and I don't know about you but I've played games where the entire point was to spam Barrier or Pull or whatever to complete the challenge to reset Biotic Mastery. But I can't remember ever having done that with Stasis, and its not like I've played Stasis kits very much; I probably play the Justicar (and the Valkyrie) more than the vanilla AA, and I play the Volus vanguard and/or engineer much more than the adept. So it doesn't make any sense mathematically, there has to be something going on here that I'm missing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 22:23:32 GMT
Lower point threshold? Has to be.
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 2, 2022 22:28:48 GMT
Lower point threshold? Has to be. Or what about this: if you take the 6b debuff, for enemies to take +50% damage while in Stasis, and then kill the enemy, maybe that extra damage counts toward Stasis challenge? So if you shoot a Statis'd enemy with, say, the Widow and do 1000 damage + 50%, then that extra debuffed 50% counts towards Stasis points? That's the only thing I can think of. Weird shit.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 3, 2022 21:44:08 GMT
nah, i completed stasis a lot too, and i never use 6b debuff (which is 35 insted of 50 btw).
Scores combo i guess, and assists,
and some other weird shit as intended, challenges often score weird when u follow them, dont they ?
Last time, my solo mastery fucked up for a day (wrong reset), was fixed automatically though
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 3, 2022 22:39:39 GMT
nah, i completed stasis a lot too, and i never use 6b debuff (which is 35 insted of 50 btw). Scores combo i guess, and assists, and some other weird shit as intended, challenges often score weird when u follow them, dont they ? Last time, my solo mastery fucked up for a day (wrong reset), was fixed automatically though Yeah I've had challenges fuck up before, my Geth Mastery has been stuck since like 2013. The debuff theory was all I had, chalk it up to Bioware shit twerking as intended I guess. Weird shit.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 4, 2022 11:06:57 GMT
nah, i completed stasis a lot too, and i never use 6b debuff (which is 35 insted of 50 btw). Scores combo i guess, and assists, and some other weird shit as intended, challenges often score weird when u follow them, dont they ? Last time, my solo mastery fucked up for a day (wrong reset), was fixed automatically though Yeah I've had challenges fuck up before, my Geth Mastery has been stuck since like 2013. The debuff theory was all I had, chalk it up to Bioware shit twerking as intended I guess. Weird shit. my assist theory would be: it scores all the damage done to the trapped unit as assist... That may be sufficient to score a lot even if in my case i rarely let a stased phantom hanging around to be damage by someone else.
Doesnt seem to work for your own damage though i might retest.
It was one of the argument for CPs to be coop, assisting scoring too (as much as killing ?)
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Apr 4, 2022 16:57:23 GMT
I've done Warp 42 times, with Reave, BC and Dark Channel 41 each. These all pale beside the mighty Overload tech alternative, at 102.
I've done Stasis 25 times thanks to the AA/Suppressor. Clyde would not be impressed.
I'm laughing at my (lack of) Barrier completions - only 5. My Xbox account with 1300 hours has only accrued 8856 points in total, and only 1 single game with the KroDept. Overall I've done the KroDept waves 3 times out of 18 Bloodpack Mastery completions Looks like I need to L2Barrier!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 17:10:58 GMT
nah, i completed stasis a lot too, and i never use 6b debuff (which is 35 insted of 50 btw). Scores combo i guess, and assists, and some other weird shit as intended, challenges often score weird when u follow them, dont they ? Last time, my solo mastery fucked up for a day (wrong reset), was fixed automatically though Yeah I've had challenges fuck up before, my Geth Mastery has been stuck since like 2013. The debuff theory was all I had, chalk it up to Bioware shit twerking as intended I guess. Weird shit. Something to try... Change your username. Doesn't have to be a massive change, but change your Origin login. This will break N7HQ, and then you will need to relink your account. This worked for me to fix broken challenges. Issue I'm having is I am forgetting an important step, like... What anything is actually called or where it is done, but IIRC this is done on N7HQ. |
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Post by larsdt on Apr 4, 2022 17:44:57 GMT
18 Bloodpack Mastery completions A continued source of envy for me with only 6. The Krogan and Batarians have done their part but the Vorcha are slacking. Back in the day, I didn't dare venture beyond silver without a cyclonic but now they also deserve to be invited to the party. 
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 4, 2022 20:50:29 GMT
Yeah I've had challenges fuck up before, my Geth Mastery has been stuck since like 2013. The debuff theory was all I had, chalk it up to Bioware shit twerking as intended I guess. Weird shit. Something to try... Change your username. Doesn't have to be a massive change, but change your Origin login. This will break N7HQ, and then you will need to relink your account. This worked for me to fix broken challenges. Issue I'm having is I am forgetting an important step, like... What anything is actually called or where it is done, but IIRC this is done on N7HQ. I'm on (lol) ps3. And I actually had BJ try to fix it for me back when he was still active on the old forum, but he kept trying to fix it while I was logged in/playing which apparently means it can't be reset. But I'm OK with it because it gives me an excuse not to play against the stupid cheating flashlights 
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 4, 2022 20:52:43 GMT
18 Bloodpack Mastery completions A continued source of envy for me with only 6. The Krogan and Batarians have done their part but the Vorcha are slacking. Back in the day, I didn't dare venture beyond silver without a cyclonic but now they also deserve to be invited to the party. BP mastery not only has the best set of characters/kits, its the most stylish banner to sport in lobbies 
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 4, 2022 20:54:33 GMT
18 Bloodpack Mastery completions what a stud 
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Apr 4, 2022 21:09:50 GMT
18 Bloodpack Mastery completions what a stud  Says the guy who used to leave me running around with nothing to kill! Well, the guy with a little help from a certain exploding shotgun at least larsdt - I only have 6 Outsider Mastery completions, my lowest of all the challenges. If that's not proof of continued scrub status I don't know what is. 
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Post by DistigousForest on Apr 5, 2022 11:14:35 GMT
A continued source of envy for me with only 6. The Krogan and Batarians have done their part but the Vorcha are slacking. Back in the day, I didn't dare venture beyond silver without a cyclonic but now they also deserve to be invited to the party. BP mastery not only has the best set of characters/kits, its the most stylish banner to sport in lobbies  The Tali Mathemagician banner would like a word with you.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 5, 2022 14:35:22 GMT
EDIT: i tested stasis only at least 20 times, gave no damage. Troopers end up damaged a bit when they fall out of stasis (i guess) or it s the 25 pts damage. But even those 25 doesnt show in the CP. Then i checked with one Headshot on mooks. Mooks HP is 1688 and is killed, it gave 105 stasis CP... retested stasis more properly, it scores (CP wise) its 25*K damage when the unit dies. thats why i didnt see anything. K being the number of times u cast stasis on them even after they are immune
I ll try the assist stuff another time cause i finished stasis points ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2022 16:32:05 GMT
The Krogan and Batarians have done their part but the Vorcha are slacking. Back in the day, I didn't dare venture beyond silver without a cyclonic but now they also deserve to be invited to the party. Glorious Vorcha Engineer is a surprisingly durable kit that can handle Phantoms easily. Cannot get overrun by Goons though, so use Incinerate liberally. Aim for z head. I honestly used to think he was lame and boring, but he is so much better than the BatSent in almost every way. Blade Armor is awesome, but regenerating health and shields is also pretty awesome and works reliably, where as BA off-host may not do much to melee antagonists. My BP Mastery is at 13, so I am no authority on this subject. I do however clearly like the Vorcha Engineer and so should you. GRRAAAH! |
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