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Post by GruntKitterhand on Apr 5, 2022 17:25:55 GMT
I honestly used to think he was lame and boring, but he is so much better than the BatSent in almost every way My BatSent completions outnumber my Vorcha Engineer by 18:4, but I do agree with you that the Vorcha is great fun and I should really play him more. I clearly have masochistic tendencies, as the only weapon I ever equip on my BatSent is the Kishock (and vice-versa), with 27 completions...... all off-host! Madness. JIM!!! In other news I did give the KroDept a rampage last night. My reservations about him stem from the fact that I think the most effective build is probably the Talon, with honourable mention to the Executioner Pistol for a little more finesse. This means no Berserker gear, which makes me a sad Krogan. Finesse is not really a word suited to Krogans. Still fun though. And I even remembered to use Barrier offensively!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2022 17:38:54 GMT
Talon is IMO the best choice for Barrier-spammimg Melee Shaman. Melee Stunner and Power Amp, use AP ammo for extra damage and to avoid contaminating your quick BE should you need to Warp a Barrier'd floating mook or Shockwave a Warp'd tough guy. Martial Biotic Amp has a porpoise, or Jugg Shield if spending too much time appreciating the map at ground level.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Apr 5, 2022 18:11:41 GMT
Talon is IMO the best choice for Barrier-spammimg Melee Shaman. Melee Stunner and Power Amp, use AP ammo for extra damage That was almost my setup. I used the melee stunner, piercing mod and warp ammo, with power amp gear. As I said, it was fun, but a Krogan without a Claymore or Graal just feels wrong to me on every level - possibly even straying into pyjack territory, but then I am something of a lore-purist!
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Post by DistigousForest on Apr 5, 2022 19:11:54 GMT
Talon is IMO the best choice for Barrier-spammimg Melee Shaman. Melee Stunner and Power Amp, use AP ammo for extra damage That was almost my setup. I used the melee stunner, piercing mod and warp ammo, with power amp gear. As I said, it was fun, but a Krogan without a Claymore or Graal just feels wrong to me on every level - possibly even straying into pyjack territory, but then I am something of a lore-purist! Let me tell you about my Lancer Krodept that I take to platinum often
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 5, 2022 19:17:01 GMT
The Krogan and Batarians have done their part but the Vorcha are slacking. Back in the day, I didn't dare venture beyond silver without a cyclonic but now they also deserve to be invited to the party. Glorious Vorcha Engineer is a surprisingly durable kit that can handle Phantoms easily. Cannot get overrun by Goons though, so use Incinerate liberally. Aim for z head. I honestly used to think he was lame and boring, but he is so much better than the BatSent in almost every way. Blade Armor is awesome, but regenerating health and shields is also pretty awesome and works reliably, where as BA off-host may not do much to melee antagonists. They also have one of the best dodge and melee animations. Love the Vorcha Engie. Raider + Incendiary + AMIII =
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 5, 2022 19:18:14 GMT
I honestly used to think he was lame and boring, but he is so much better than the BatSent in almost every way My BatSent completions outnumber my Vorcha Engineer by 18:4, but I do agree with you that the Vorcha is great fun and I should really play him more. I clearly have masochistic tendencies, as the only weapon I ever equip on my BatSent is the Kishock (and vice-versa), with 27 completions...... all off-host! Madness. JIM!!! In other news I did give the KroDept a rampage last night. My reservations about him stem from the fact that I think the most effective build is probably the Talon, with honourable mention to the Executioner Pistol for a little more finesse. This means no Berserker gear, which makes me a sad Krogan. Finesse is not really a word suited to Krogans. Still fun though. And I even remembered to use Barrier offensively! This is probably going to come as a great surprise to you, but... imo the best gun for the KroDept is the VENOM SHOTGUN
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 5, 2022 19:19:06 GMT
BP mastery not only has the best set of characters/kits, its the most stylish banner to sport in lobbies The Tali Mathemagician banner would like a word with you. YEah, that's a good one. Also like either of the Biotic God banners. But nobody messes with a MONSTER
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Post by DistigousForest on Apr 5, 2022 19:21:02 GMT
The Tali Mathemagician banner would like a word with you. YEah, that's a good one. Also like either of the Biotic God banners. But nobody messes with a MONSTER Too bad on Xbox it's the rainbow IMG! banner. I have to rock the standard Mathemagician or the N7 since all the alt banners are broken.
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 5, 2022 19:22:41 GMT
YEah, that's a good one. Also like either of the Biotic God banners. But nobody messes with a MONSTER Too bad on Xbox it's the rainbow IMG! banner. I have to rock the standard Mathemagician or the N7 since all the alt banners are broken. lol oh jesus I forgot about that nonsense, that's a bummer.. I also always liked the alt Dog of War banner. But I probably rock the Monster banner like 99%, its just so so sexy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2022 19:31:44 GMT
Love Venom.
Too unreliable off-host. Barrier is the opposite; it glitches often in a net positive way off host, having zero CD and detonating more often than intended, kinda like a 3 shot raider.
Lag affects things unevenly in this game, some to the benefit of the client player and of course also to the detriment. Quality BioWare product.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Apr 5, 2022 20:08:16 GMT
That was almost my setup. I used the melee stunner, piercing mod and warp ammo, with power amp gear. As I said, it was fun, but a Krogan without a Claymore or Graal just feels wrong to me on every level - possibly even straying into pyjack territory, but then I am something of a lore-purist! Let me tell you about my Lancer Krodept that I take to platinum often It was exactly that kind of thing that resulted in me having at least 3 anonymous alt accounts on PS3. I loved having the freedom to surprise, if not downright troll higher ranked players. MaxCrushmore was the king of alts, but I'm sure we ran into each other a couple of times without actually knowing for sure. Lancer KroDept must be fairly obscene, in a good way, but creating a persona based on Grunt is like a millstone round my neck sometimes. Shotgun + Omniblade or GTFO! And as for q5tyhj and his Venom, going to the bother of hiding that behind a spoiler was comedy gold.
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 5, 2022 20:34:48 GMT
Let me tell you about my Lancer Krodept that I take to platinum often It was exactly that kind of thing that resulted in me having at least 3 anonymous alt accounts on PS3. I loved having the freedom to surprise, if not downright troll higher ranked players. MaxCrushmore was the king of alts, but I'm sure we ran into each other a couple of times without actually knowing for sure. Lancer KroDept must be fairly obscene, in a good way, but creating a persona based on Grunt is like a millstone round my neck sometimes. Shotgun + Omniblade or GTFO! And as for q5tyhj and his Venom, going to the bother of hiding that behind a spoiler was comedy gold. yeah idk how many Max alts I had on my friends list, but it probably was only a fraction of his total accounts... Max was good shit
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 5, 2022 21:53:27 GMT
Love Venom. Too unreliable off-host. Barrier is the opposite; it glitches often in a net positive way off host, having zero CD and detonating more often than intended, kinda like a 3 shot raider. Lag affects things unevenly in this game, some to the benefit of the client player and of course also to the detriment. Quality BioWare product. Yeah it definitely has its issues off-host, especially with charged shots. That's why I host like 99% of the time, so I can Venom (and Vanguard, and Dark Sphere, and GPS, and Siege Pulse, and everything else in the game that sucks off-host)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2022 0:56:27 GMT
I wouldn't know what to do with KroDept Lancer.
Unless playing for FE's, which is a strategy, but other kits do that much faster. If playing for Incendiary Cheddar, this is also a valid strategy but makes you play like a pyjak imo.
Headbutt things, pelvic thrust at your enemy as your Barrier-splooge on them, Shockwave/Warp/Gun for situations. I cannot unlearn this style with Shaman.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 6, 2022 7:07:39 GMT
New poll, let s know what pistol u always use regularly. Results are pretty obvious for the top 3 i guess !
Also, off host venom is charged all the time in my book
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Apr 6, 2022 9:40:34 GMT
Talon and Arc Pistol waaaaaaayyyy out front(x25), like everyone else I suspect, but if we were picking a third I might have needed a calculator to add up my different accounts. Close to a tie between Acolyte, Eagle and Carnifex (Justicar, TSol and HEngie respectively) with honourable mention to the Paladin Paladin and Scorpion SalEng.
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Post by DistigousForest on Apr 6, 2022 11:12:33 GMT
I wouldn't know what to do with KroDept Lancer. Unless playing for FE's, which is a strategy, but other kits do that much faster. If playing for Incendiary Cheddar, this is also a valid strategy but makes you play like a pyjak imo. Headbutt things, pelvic thrust at your enemy as your Barrier-splooge on them, Shockwave/Warp/Gun for situations. I cannot unlearn this style with Shaman. APIV and BE spam on boss targets for plat, plus no one uses the Shaman. I'll use the Wraith if I want to Incendiary cheese. Shockwave pretty much works on Xbox so BEs are consistent. On gold I spam barrier/melee/BE bosses with whatever shotgun needs completion for the banner. Most completed Biotic: Warp, Charge both x28 Most completed Pistol: Arc, Acolyte both x15
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 6, 2022 13:41:58 GMT
Three-way tie between Talon, Arc Peestol, and Acolyte (6x)
I should use non-shotguns more.
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Post by larsdt on Apr 6, 2022 22:49:47 GMT
Well, shotguns are king in this game imho, in terms of variety and feel. Pistols? Eh - not so much. To paraphrase GruntKitterhand , a Krogan-Pistol setup seems more like finesse. Something I would say in general about all pistols. I just prefer big/heavy/bulky over finesse. Hence shotgun mastery is double that of pistol mastery. The bigger the better. Yes, it is perfectly legit for a Volus to run around with the Javelin. Maybe I'm trying to compensate for something? . As far as pistol use, nothing new here with the Arc and Talon completed every time in all 19 pistol masteries. 3 kits are pistol kits 99% of the time: Paladin because, well Paladin-Paladin. I don't know who came up with Hengie/Carnifex setup but that has been the standard issue gun for years on both vanilla engineers. As far as banners go, there is only one to rule them all. All the cool kids rock the BotB banner because they are the bestest of the bestest.
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 7, 2022 19:41:44 GMT
I just prefer big/heavy/bulky over finesse. Hence shotgun mastery is double that of pistol mastery. I have more Shotgun Mastery completions than every other weapons category combined Pistol Mastery + SMG + Sniper Rifles + Assault Rifle = 14x total Shotgun Mastery= 19x
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 22:53:26 GMT
Eagle not on list. Al pls.
I have to actually play again to see how many completions I have per gun, on the HQ I can only see 30 overall PM and of course the current points for each. Would have been a nice little thing to add, but that bridge washed out years ago.
Edit: I see Eagle. Missed it because SMG tag. Al pls. Is Arc Pistol also an SMG? What SMG buyer would want an Eagle with it's ridiculously slow RoF? (A smart one, but I digress)
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ETA - Talon 31, Scorpion/Acolyte 29, Arc/Paladin/Eagle 28
I like the pistols.
M3-Predator - 1. Maybe not this one so much.
Before anyone cries Pistol Penis, I also like to shoot, uh, bigger guns. None of this is gay, or all of it is. Hard to tell anymore and not sure I care.
Shitgun Mastery - 45x, Claymore 46 AR - 35x, Falcon 36 SMG - 36x, HurrDurr 36 SR - 27x, M98 Widow 28
I need to use sniper rifles more?
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Post by TheNightSlasher on Apr 8, 2022 2:13:17 GMT
Here's what N7HQ says: Arc pistol - 53 Acolyte - 47 Paladin - 45 Carnifex - 44 Talon - 44 Eagle - 43 Executioner - 43 Suppressor - 40 Scorpion - 37 Predator - 23 Phalanx - 20 Except arc pistol, predator & phalanx (maybe scorpion), the rest are fairly close. Scorpion being low despite being one of my faves isn't surprising since I mostly use it for stagger/priming. Acolyte being so high is marginally surprising, but not too much. I do wish the suppressor count were higher.
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Post by DistigousForest on Apr 8, 2022 2:28:37 GMT
I should use non-shotguns more. Like lars said shotguns are king, I really have to force myself to use anything else. ARs are a ton of fun though and also have a lot of variety, much like shotguns do, and I'm a big fan of them even if some are more niche than practical. What I'm not a fan of is sniper rifles, which is a shame because in basically every other game (PvP or Co-op, or single player shooters) I generally prefer sniper rifles and shotguns are total trash, especially if you're more than 10 feet from a target. That's one thing I never understood from game devs: how can I snipe with a pistol from any range, but a shotgun from the same distance is straight dog poo? Shooting a pistol is a total crap shoot from like 10 yards away (I'm being generous for some rounds too) when 00 buck would probably kill from 50+ if a pellet hits. Bring slugs into the mix and your talking at least 100 yards if your sights are good. Man shotguns get no love, except the pre-patch Akimbo 1887s from Modern Warfare 2 those were stupid good; though I preferred the M1014. /rant I need to use sniper rifles more? No, they stink. Keep on shotgunning.
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Post by DistigousForest on Apr 8, 2022 2:32:42 GMT
I do wish the suppressor count were higher. I wish it had better ammo reserves. It just burns through ammo so fast I get the same feeling as when I'm running a Carrier. The Phalanx is fun and I use that alot on the Vorcha Engineer on gold when I'm dicking around to get challenges done. It has decent accuracy and a good fire rate too, solid pistol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 2:51:48 GMT
shotguns are king, I really have to force myself to use anything else. Lies. Slander. Slander and lies. Slanderous lies. (Especially on this subforum.)
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