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Post by smilesja on Apr 8, 2020 19:54:54 GMT
Well I might as post this as a counter to the previous thread about why people dislike Andromeda. Regardless of what YouTube or Twitter tells you, there are still some people who like Andromeda and wishes for a sequel. So this is a question for them: Why do you like Andromeda?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Apr 8, 2020 20:06:08 GMT
'cause it's a fresh story? honestly when it first came out I was a bit skeptical, especially with all the rotten reviews and all it got when it was released. so when it was on a discount at my local game store I was like "meh, can't stub my toe for 10 bucks",
then it sat in my game library for several months before I even touched it (the fact the download time was pretty long also didn't help)
but then last year I was like "let's give it an actual genuine try" and know what...I loved it despite all it's faults the cast is likeable, the story (despite it's plot holes and anti-climactic ending) was amazing plus it had my love for in-game exploration at it's heart, so I wasn't even mad and I hadn't even finished all the content during that playthrough
do I think it could've been better? Hell yes...but if they are going to make a new game set in this universe with Ryder as the protagonist...I'll once again give it a try
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 8, 2020 22:15:04 GMT
'cause it's a fresh story? honestly when it first came out I was a bit skeptical, especially with all the rotten reviews and all it got when it was released. so when it was on a discount at my local game store I was like "meh, can't stub my toe for 10 bucks",
then it sat in my game library for several months before I even touched it (the fact the download time was pretty long also didn't help)
but then last year I was like "let's give it an actual genuine try" and know what...I loved it despite all it's faults the cast is likeable, the story (despite it's plot holes and anti-climactic ending) was amazing plus it had my love for in-game exploration at it's heart, so I wasn't even mad and I hadn't even finished all the content during that playthrough
do I think it could've been better? Hell yes...but if they are going to make a new game set in this universe with Ryder as the protagonist...I'll once again give it a try Yeah for me that's what I liked most about it to oit gasve uus a whole nwe take on the ME universe aqnd an intersting one too in tha tit wasn' tabou tfighting a galactic threat but moe rabou tpeople coming t ogether to help each other survive whilst trying to find a new home.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 9, 2020 1:00:18 GMT
I love the setting.
I love exploring new and different planets (unlike the barren wastelands that ME1).
I love the characters that offer new takes on familiar races. Peebee and Vetra are basically outsiders to their respective cultures and have a different and fresh takes on the asari and turians. The same with Kallo. He's a different from other salarians we've seen and isn't a scientist and/or a spy he's a pilot and a damn good one. Drack is my favorite krogan of the series so far. He's ancient and knows that he doesn't have much time left and wants the best for his people and knows his way isn't forward the krogan as a species but he's a warrior who knows how much the krogan has lost and others like Vorn and Kesh know how valuable he is because of his knowledge. Cora is a human biotic trained with asari commandos and has spent a lot of time around asari to the point she kind of idolizes them only to learn that they are capable of making mistakes that can last for centuries or millennium. In a day and age of real world scientists are mostly atheists to hear Suvi and debate with her about the faith and science co-existing, regardless of the players own believes or not.
I love the Nomad I think it's the best vehicle/mount BioWare has ever done.
I love the combat.
I love the crafting system.
I love the War table/Apex strike teams.
I will have to go in detail at a later date due to bad weather and a personal issue that I need to resolve right now.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 9, 2020 8:26:11 GMT
Love the trip to another galaxy Love music, though would've wanted more (one needs to rebalance the volume settings before starting the game as defaults put music too far into background, make effects and voices lower and leave music to 100) Like most of the characters, but not Kandros as he never delivered the drinks . For me Gil was the least realized character. I love exploration and for me this is the REAL ME2 as it continues the premise of exploration and free areas of 1 and more freedom than 2 or 3. I love combat, its EASILY the best combat BioWare has made to the date (yes its better than Anthem combat but just a bit ), destroying any combat mechanics from most of the games that came before it. I love the fact we have ME1 style weapons available and even able to mod others not to use disposable heat sinks. I LOVE the multiplayer I really like the planets we got, but would've loved more of smaller UNC missions on different planets. Nomad >>>>> Mako (or like Cyberstrike said, over anything they've done) The feeling in the game is awesome for me, how its opening up when you talk to people, read the emails and terminals. How much have these people sacrificed for the future? A lot. It took 3 playthroughs for me to realize most of the game, but even the 1st time was good solid 8,75/10 for me, and now its on #1 place with ME1.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 9, 2020 8:55:05 GMT
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Jet packs giving vertical movement. Ah yes I forgot this. Now we are not tied into the floor, well in 1 we could "mount" aka climb stuff a bit, but the sequels.. Also now we can properly evade without waiting for animation finish-start-finish cycles.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Apr 9, 2020 12:50:51 GMT
I think MEA reminds me of dragon age 2. I loved dragon age 2 it was a fun game that had a lot of cool stuff in it like a character who changes dialouge and such based on choices. However it did have more then a few flaws. MEA was a fun game but had flaws. The biggest one for me is the facial animations but the patch fixed that. I preffered the combat in ME3 as well and some other things.
For people like me who can see past a few flaws if it is a fun game you should be careful of reviews. I held up playing DA2 for a while because the reviews were so bad and yet I have played DA2 more then the other two dragon age games. Now was MEA my favorite mass effect game? No it wasn't Was it a good game though yes it was. I do hope they make another one with ryder that is a few years into the future so he is a little more mature and that we can still have our LI's carry over. I want my cora
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 9, 2020 14:13:15 GMT
I think MEA reminds me of dragon age 2. I loved dragon age 2 it was a fun game that had a lot of cool stuff in it like a character who changes dialouge and such based on choices. However it did have more then a few flaws. MEA was a fun game but had flaws. The biggest one for me is the facial animations but the patch fixed that. I preffered the combat in ME3 as well and some other things. For people like me who can see past a few flaws if it is a fun game you should be careful of reviews. I held up playing DA2 for a while because the reviews were so bad and yet I have played DA2 more then the other two dragon age games. Now was MEA my favorite mass effect game? No it wasn't Was it a good game though yes it was. I do hope they make another one with ryder that is a few years into the future so he is a little more mature and that we can still have our LI's carry over. I want my cora
ALL GAMES HAVE FLAWS. ANYTHING made by humans will have flaws. Most of the flaws like the recycled backgrounds and locations actually make a lot sense in DA2 given that the story of that game is a flashback told by a somewhat unreliable narrator (Varric openly admits in both DA2 and in DAI that he's a liar). So did all 3 games and DLC of MET have flaws in them! And so does every major AAA and indy game made they all have flaws of some kind. And most of the major technical flaws in MEA have been patched.
The combat in MEA for me is finally fun where I want to get into gun fights and they don't feel like a chore especially like they did at times in latter half of ME3.
I think the supporting characters like Tann, Kesh, Kandros, and Addison all feel different than the bland Citadel Council (original or the human/renegade backed one) they all have their own agendas, strengths, weaknesses, and most of all they have different personalities.
Ryder feels more like MY character than Shepard ever did. I feel like I have more control over Ryder's morality, personality, religious beliefs, politics, family relationships, sexuality, and so on with Shepard it was only a limited background/psychological profile (both only really effected the first game and in the other two there are some brief emails and mentions and in 3 a touching message with Shepard's mom but that is it), the paragon/renegade morality, and sexuality.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 9, 2020 15:20:27 GMT
I think MEA reminds me of dragon age 2. I loved dragon age 2 it was a fun game that had a lot of cool stuff in it like a character who changes dialouge and such based on choices. However it did have more then a few flaws. MEA was a fun game but had flaws. The biggest one for me is the facial animations but the patch fixed that. I preffered the combat in ME3 as well and some other things. For people like me who can see past a few flaws if it is a fun game you should be careful of reviews. I held up playing DA2 for a while because the reviews were so bad and yet I have played DA2 more then the other two dragon age games. Now was MEA my favorite mass effect game? No it wasn't Was it a good game though yes it was. I do hope they make another one with ryder that is a few years into the future so he is a little more mature and that we can still have our LI's carry over. I want my cora
ALL GAMES HAVE FLAWS. ANYTHING made by humans will have flaws. Most of the flaws like the recycled backgrounds and locations actually make a lot sense in DA2 given that the story of that game is a flashback told by a somewhat unreliable narrator (Varric openly admits in both DA2 and in DAI that he's a liar). Did all 3 games and DLC of MET have flaws so does every major AAA and indy game made have flaws of some kind. Most of the major flaws in MEA have been patched.
The combat in MEA for me is finally fun where I want to get into gun fights and they don't feel like a chore especially like they did at times in latter half of ME3.
I think the supporting characters like Tann, Kesh, Kandros, and Addison all feel different than the bland Citadel Council (original or the human/renegade backed one) they all have their own agendas, strengths, weaknesses, and most of all they have different personalities.
Ryder feels more like MY character than Shepard ever did. I feel like I have more control over Ryder's morality, personality, religious beliefs, politics, family relationships, sexuality, and so on with Shepard it was only a limited background/psychological profile (both only really effected the first game and in the other two there are some brief emails and mentions and in 3 a touching message with Shepard's mom but that is it), the paragon/renegade morality, and sexuality.
Yeah these aer things I like about Ryder over Shep too. In that Ryder feels more huan in that they show they're emotions and an empathy with their crew. For example the mission wher yoyu go and rescue the Moshae an dyou discover wha tthe Kett aer really doing to the Angara. I liked Ryder's reaction and how they try to comfort Jaal by saying "we're with you we'll try to stop this if we can" or words to that effect. I know they don't sa ytha texactly but what's going on in that scene when Jaal breaks down is effectively what Ryder is saying. I'm not saying Shep didn' tdo anything like thisbu tShep definitely feels a bit moer robotic than Ryder emotionally. MEA may not have had th ebest story but like with the trilogy it stil had it's own moments for me. Plan on playing again on my new computer once I've finished my latest run of the trilogy.
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Post by KrrKs on Apr 9, 2020 17:11:41 GMT
I still love the setting / MEU.
I really love the freedom to choose any power and profile and not be tied to a specific class with inherent 'power a is better than power b'. Weapon mods and augs are also much more powerful in MEA than the trilogy. I really like the combat.
I like there are slight throw backs in the story. Pretty much all of them before the player becomes pathfinder, but still. It tries to no be 'Supersoldier comes in, shoots the baddies and wins' at every turn. (Even though that's totally what it is at the end). And the setbacks that are there in the story, (e.g., the exiles and krogan situation, most of the missing arks, khi thasira and the trap on the archon's ship) do not feel as forced as the setbacks in ME2/3. (I.e., the council ignoring reapers, the collectors attacking the Normandy, or loosing against Kai Leng)
And I like the optimistic tone of the game, though I wish it would let me play more of an asshole if I wished to.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 9, 2020 21:40:58 GMT
I really enjoyed the crafting system and the ability to make some really cool weapons. I added a energy beam mod to a Reverent assault rifle and instead of firing bullets it fired a purple energy beam that looked something out of Ghostbusters it also made the gun harder to aim and it burned through clips pretty fast, but it was pretty cool to be able to do that.
I like being able to add mods to weapons and armor that actually make sense and are easy to understand and I can actually see how they work. I also like being able to customize the colors on the armor to make them look cool or completely silly.
Now I absolutely HATE the War Table in DAI mostly because of the real-time in the real world aspect of it and it does effect certain quests that I have to wait anywhere between 5 minutes to 24 hours and in some cases when I got nothing to do I have to run around Haven or Skyhold or go to a region and do something to kill time or just save the game and turn it off. The War Table in MEA first off is basically playing the MP mode without leaving the SP mode and the operations only grant me resources and since I can have six teams and level them up and buy them equipment that is all I have to do and since none of the operations effect the SP mode I don't have to wait anywhere between 5 minutes to 24 hours for an APEX team so I can advance in the story. Also I like how they set up the APEX teams and they make me like a general.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 9, 2020 21:47:08 GMT
Why I like MEA? at the very beginning, I see Earth, the best planet in the universe housing the best species in the universe. excellent Just after the Hyperion exits ftl, and is crossing the screen, the sound of the engines reminded me of this. excellent seeing Fiend grab Ryder, take a bite out of Ryder, then smashing Ryder into the ground.
Ryder being killed on Aya causing a mission failure screen to pop up. excellent the immobilization field on Archon's ship. the fight against the kett in a bubble the jetpack was useful when it came to evading attacks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2020 23:30:44 GMT
-the combat (best in the series) -the skill/level/class system- allowing players to pick powers buffet-style, apart from class restrictions, was nothing short of brilliant -game is huge, lots of content and replayability (although the quality of some of that content can be inconsistent) -some of the environments are legitimately gorgeous, particularly the Remnant vaults -some good characters and dialogue (if somewhat less memorable than other BW or ME releases) -MP and SP were better integrated (via Apex) than in ME3
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Post by gnperdue on May 11, 2020 0:55:56 GMT
I like the combat and skills system. If you go very light on the side missions (I find them very fetch-questy), the main game is fast-paced and fun. I love that the Apex app means that you don’t have to spend time resource farming (I just bounce around between a couple of campaigns so the ones that are “off” can accumulate some resources if I need them to).
The game got a bad rap for visual bugs when it debuted, and the multiplayer balance was off (they really needed a beta), but by a few months in everything was (and has remained) great. I think the cast of characters is not quite as memorable as the trilogy characters, but they’re fine. It is just a good game now.
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Post by Gludipow on May 13, 2020 4:56:36 GMT
Does Mass Effect Andromeda have issues? Sure. But nothing that I think couldn't have been fixed with some more patches and a few DLC like it did with Inquisition. I think Andromeda had the deck stacked against it from the beginning in the fandom. First there were guys complaining that the girls weren't hot enough, and using them as an example of Bioware pushing political agendas, then upon release people dumping on the game for every tiny flaw, reviewing it into the dirt until it was shoved into oblivion.
To me, it didn't deserve as much of the hate as it got. I loved that the female characters are relatable and aren't fresh-off-the-runway character models like in other games. My Sara Ryder is relatable on a level Shepard wasn't for me. Don't get me wrong, I loved my Shepard and I loved the story, but I didn't jive with Shepard on a personal level. With Sara, she is much more personable (less military background and rank may have something to do with that). I really love that I can customize my Ryder's personality on a level I couldn't with Shepard. It always saddened me that we had more response choices in Dragon Age than we did in Mass Effect (depending on game comparison, of course). While I liked the Paragon and Renegade options, I find myself more fascinated by Lexi's psych eval based on my game choices. And it's something I hope they continue into the next Andromeda game (they will, they have said they cannot go back to the Milky Way, and it would be a waste not to continue Andromeda and just try to do better the second go 'round). I really loved the combat system. There were some things I think they should adjust, like make starting class mean something. Class specific passive abilities would be nice, but something that comes to mind is in the original trilogy, members of the crew and team often made comments about whatever class Shepard was in the game. Whether it be the comment about Shepard attending Grissom academy as a kid with their biotic abilities, or Liara talking about Shepard's class on her little time capsule. The team was endearing, and I genuinely felt my heart ache when I upset Drack picking Salarian leadership over a few faceless scouts. He did get over it, but him being that upset with me for as long as he was really stung. I just hope in future installments it means something. Like Raeka saves Drack's life as repayment in one of the future Andromeda games. Andromeda at it's soul is a Mass Effect game. As someone who has played the original trilogy uncountable times over the many years since ME3 released, I can see it and feel it. I think when the next Andromeda game drops and our choices in the first game REALLY come back to bite us where they didn't as much in the first game... that will make a big difference on opinions.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 17, 2020 23:04:06 GMT
I think when people play MEA without the useless trolls and Youtube morons bashing it, they play a good game and in some cases I'm seeing people who were critical of the game at launch and are now re-evaluating the game and finding it's actually a pretty good game overall.
I also know when announces that they will do MEA2 and it launches a lot of the same useless Twitter trolls and Youtube morons will bash it because it's not as good as MEA1 was. This has happened before and will happen again.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 18, 2020 6:38:51 GMT
I think when people play MEA without the useless trolls and Youtube morons bashing it, they play a good game and in some cases I'm seeing people who were critical of the game at launch and are now re-evaluating the game and finding it's actually a pretty good game overall. I also know when announces that they will do MEA2 and it launches a lot of the same useless Twitter trolls and Youtube morons will bash it because it's not as good as MEA1 was. This has happened before and will happen again. Re-evaluating is already happening (for a long time already), latest example from reddit old.reddit.com/r/MassEffectAndromeda/comments/gkdyrt/should_i_get_this_game/ - yes yes yes..
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 18, 2020 15:20:22 GMT
I think when people play MEA without the useless trolls and Youtube morons bashing it, they play a good game and in some cases I'm seeing people who were critical of the game at launch and are now re-evaluating the game and finding it's actually a pretty good game overall. I also know when announces that they will do MEA2 and it launches a lot of the same useless Twitter trolls and Youtube morons will bash it because it's not as good as MEA1 was. This has happened before and will happen again. Re-evaluating is already happening (for a long time already), latest example from reddit old.reddit.com/r/MassEffectAndromeda/comments/gkdyrt/should_i_get_this_game/ - yes yes yes..
I'm seeing this on Facebook and Twitter as well. When people give it a fair chance they generally like it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 18, 2020 16:37:15 GMT
I'm seeing this on Facebook and Twitter as well. When people give it a fair chance they generally like it.
TYeah I've been seeing a fwe moer positive responses towards Andromeda of late as well. Suer it's not GOTY materia lbut it didn't deserve the amount of bashing it got.
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Post by colfoley on May 19, 2020 5:47:02 GMT
-Ryder was a blast to play. Maybe the best protag BioWare has come up with so far. -RP in general. The classless system and more free form abilities, the dialogue options. -The combat. Nice and smooth and again being classlesss gave interesting combinations. -The Story. Best since ME 1. -The Exploration. Just in general it was nice having things to do, the planets were pretty distinctive.
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Post by wright1978 on May 19, 2020 16:03:09 GMT
I liked the mako, the crafting, the combat. Unfortunately this sort of game lives or dies by writing.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on May 19, 2020 19:26:35 GMT
I liked it because I like the Mass Effect universe a lot but to be quite frank, I'm FED UP with Shepards story. As much as I like him/her and all the characters of the trilogy, its just enough.
Time to move on.
Andromeda was not perfect by any means and in the end, it was a little of let down but still, it did a lot of things right. The maps were very beautifully crafted, the combat a lot of fun, the characters likable and the whole game felt fresh and interesting. Pacing was good too. # I was pretty bummed when they announced that there would not be any DLC for it, with proper DLC they could have easily elevated the game from ''fine'' to ''pretty good!''.
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Post by Sanunes on May 19, 2020 20:45:06 GMT
I liked Andromeda because it was something new, Shepard's story was becoming boring and trying to make Shepard's story fit around another set of enemies post Reapers was going to get boring. I also think Andromeda had a great starting point for some of the characters for I think Drax had probably the best first game for any secondary character in a BioWare game ever. I liked the fact that The Reapers weren't there. I liked it was a new idea for the franchise to try and not just run it into the ground sequel after sequel being pretty much the same thing for my experience with games it becomes The Reapers The Decapitators are now out to destroy The Council so they can enslave the entire solar system.
For me Andromeda was still a pretty good game compared to other games released especially at that time, it might not have been the best BioWare game ever made, but I think a lot of people went into the game looking for reasons to dislike it instead of going in neutral.
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Post by NotN7 on May 19, 2020 21:14:51 GMT
ME, I enjoyed Andromeda it was different from the OT like others have said Shepard's days are done reapers destroyed time to move on with that said the only thing that bothered me was the lack of urgency when (MHO) appropriate other wise the exploration the setting was good and the light hearted nature of the game was good, no real complaints here.
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