Everything Wrong With Mass Effect 3 Redux by GCN

You will have to then find some data to prove that to me, then. 

BioWare (specifically, Darrah) have stated Inquisition is their best selling game. I am well aware of it being their most successful launch, but I wasn't referring to that statement. 

If we agree that Mass Effect 3 sold around 7 million units, then that puts Inquisition above that number if that is the case if Darrah is correct. Otherwise, we have no real proof that Inquisition is around the supposed 5 million mark that Mass Effect 2 was at to definitively say so, unless again, you got something more concrete.

No, it’s quite simple. It means that in the future they may make a game that sells even better than DAI did.

By all means, provide credible sources that state otherwise.

Here is the problem, by metric of units sold, the time period and revenue generated does not matter because it counts in aggregate total sales. Overstated or not, the metric you are selecting to go by is not how that point of data is actually tracked or reported, which is units sold vs profitability. 

You are right about the NPD charts though, it dropped in the U.S quick for physical, but this was also before NPD was also tracking digital sales. 2014 we were seeing a major increase in digital for EA and most game companies, including year on year increase between 2014 and 2015, so that should be considered as a factor here when it comes to units sold. Another potential factor would be the console spread; PS4/Xbox One install bases were small since the consoles recently launched, I think it was 10 million units for both consoles the end of 2014, and a lack of sales for the game for the 360 and PS3 compared to the new consoles is something to keep in mind here as well.

If you said Inquisition is not as profitable as they claim to be, that I can see as being more likely, though there is no way of knowing for sure other than reading between the lines and guessing. As far as units sold though, It is clear cut the game sold north of Mass Effect 3. 

You are moving goalposts here.

But you do you, I guess? 

That will really move units.

That's not how this works. 

ETA: until you give any evidence, it really doesn't matter what you believe.

As I said though, you do you I guess.

Doesn't really matter what you believe, though.

True. I don't matter, you don't matter, none of us really matters to Bioware. This entire place could disappear right now and Bioware wouldn't bat an eye. They might even feel relieved, should that happen. One less thing to keep in mind. There's millions of other potential customers out there and we're nothing. What we believe is irrelevant. We're just here to pass time. I just refuse to fall for more PR talk. I've heard enough of that from Bioware, since 2010 to not believe a word they say and each time, I'm proven correct. I've had Bioware staff lie to my face. Sorry I'm not as naive or gullible anymore. The trust was broken, the contract void. It's not my job to buy into the PR, it's Bioware's job to make me believe in it again. And they can choose not to, again. I am irrelevant, after all. But apparently, I am not the only one that walked away, with that same mindset. And that, indirectly, makes me relevant.

That is my problem.


Again, what do you mean biggest launch? On a PS console? In the console gen? Involving most platforms? Units sold (in)? For day 1? It didn't make the NPD top 10. That means that someone is bending the truth, in some metric, or the NPD is deliberately lying/withholding DA:I sales. On the one hand, you have a throwaway claim, with no numbers and vague claims, on the other hand, you have a legit tracker that reports on the industry using actual numbers. Someone is not being entirely honest and I will bet, it wasn't the NPD.


I know what the truth is. I've yet to be proven incorrect. If you have a number that I am missing, a legit number, then I will admit I am wrong. It's not looking like it, so far.


There is truth in what they say, a very specific truth that is only true under very confined metrics. Which is why I don't care for it.

Not as many as having a sequel with a duck that can't tell a voice to shutup.