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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 9, 2020 11:57:45 GMT
I shouldn't have to mod a game to get it to work properly. And mods aren't an option for those playing on consoles. This is true. Plus as mentioned before a remaster is a chance to bring the trilogy to a new generation of players and bringing attention to the series in the process. It is a win for the company if done right (or if done at all since this is all especulation so far). Do not expect that remaster will fix any major issues - it will be just remaster, not remake.
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Post by garrusfan1 on May 9, 2020 12:00:09 GMT
This is true. Plus as mentioned before a remaster is a chance to bring the trilogy to a new generation of players and bringing attention to the series in the process. It is a win for the company if done right (or if done at all since this is all especulation so far). Do not expect that remaster will fix any major issues - it will be just remaster, not remake. Yeah and while this might sell well on the consoles I doubt it will sell well on PC since a remaster would mean you couldn't use any mods that are already out
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 12:00:46 GMT
That's nice, Hanako. I'm glad you haven't been burnt. Now, you just have to carry the financial burden of those that were.
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Post by bshep on May 9, 2020 12:08:22 GMT
This is true. Plus as mentioned before a remaster is a chance to bring the trilogy to a new generation of players and bringing attention to the series in the process. It is a win for the company if done right (or if done at all since this is all especulation so far). Do not expect that remaster will fix any major issues - it will be just remaster, not remake. I know what a remaster is. Also apart from bugs a have no major issues with the trilogy that would require a remake and neither would potential new players. That is why i believe it would be a win if Bioware/EA decide to do it someday.
That's nice, Hanako. I'm glad you haven't been burnt. Now, you just have to carry the financial burden of those that were. With this mine of salt are you still on debt?
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 9, 2020 12:10:51 GMT
Do not expect that remaster will fix any major issues - it will be just remaster, not remake. Yeah and while this might sell well on the consoles I doubt it will sell well on PC since a remaster would mean you couldn't use any mods that are already out I will not buy remaster for a simple reason - modders community been working YEARS to fix all the MET issues - bugs, story, timings, missions, gameplay, romances, companions and many, many more. Playing it now is for me a TRUE ME experience - playing remaster will be like going back to 2012.
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Post by themikefest on May 9, 2020 12:28:43 GMT
Well I know that you are borrowing the armor that is fire resistant....don't worry it is all paid for. Just because Cerberus is not the Benefactor for Andromeda Initiative it doesn't mean that we don't want it to fail.... The Initiative won't fail. Cerberus will rise to the greatness they once had with the help of Cora Harper soon to be known as TIW that will prevent the kett from wiping out the Initiative. MEA2: The Rise of Cerberus. Too bad you guys didn't let the Xenos' cyropods fail.... Unlike Indoctrinated members of Cerberus that sent us down hill. We are not stupid enough to make accidents to screw Humanity in the long term. Crazy yes We are, Stupid no. Like you, we don't have an God Emperor to back us up. That's right. We have Shepard to back us up. Cerberus will rise again.
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Post by ClarkKent on May 9, 2020 12:43:38 GMT
Man PC gamers that go into every thread like 'We get 60 fps and mods already hur hur' get kinda annoying after a while.
I'm technically a PC gamer.
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Post by xMissWoox on May 9, 2020 12:44:06 GMT
I shouldn't have to mod a game to get it to work properly. And mods aren't an option for those playing on consoles. That's why i will always prefer PC over consoles. Simple. 90% of the games in my library are fully or partially modded - i like the freedom of choice.
Other thing is developers are just lazy so modding community have to do the job - remember spinning Aria in Omega DLC ? BioWare never fix this - modders did.
I play on PC too and I do mod most of my games, but I don't think it should be a requirement. I get that there will always be bugs that slip under the radar, but major ones really out to be worked on until they're fixed. For instance, ME2 still has that issue where it CTDs after Kasumi's loyalty mission, and the solution is to edit the executable, which shouldn't be something players should have to do just to continue playing the game.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 9, 2020 12:48:04 GMT
Nexus. It's all been fixed. Just playing fully modded ME3 and what can i say... different game and much better experience ! I shouldn't have to mod a game to get it to work properly. And mods aren't an option for those playing on consoles.
Depends on the company and the game.
Player created mods for Skyrim and Fallout 4 are available for free for a couple of years on both the Xbox One and PS4. Ubisoft has "story maker" mode for Assassin's Creed: Odyssey which allows players to make new adventures for Kassandra and Alexious on both the Xbox One and PS4.
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 9, 2020 13:16:25 GMT
Well I know that you are borrowing the armor that is fire resistant....don't worry it is all paid for. Just because Cerberus is not the Benefactor for Andromeda Initiative it doesn't mean that we don't want it to fail.... The Initiative won't fail. Cerberus will rise to the greatness they once had with the help of Cora Harper soon to be known as TIW that will prevent the kett from wiping out the Initiative. MEA2: The Rise of Cerberus. Unlike Indoctrinated members of Cerberus that sent us down hill. We are not stupid enough to make accidents to screw Humanity in the long term. Crazy yes We are, Stupid no. Like you, we don't have an God Emperor to back us up. That's right. We have Shepard to back us up. Cerberus will rise again. Chad big G would totally kick virgin Weakling Shepard's ass. 😛😈👍
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 13:32:42 GMT
Well, you were either moving the goalposts or had failed to fully elaborate your argument I have a tendency of falling back on typing what is being discussed in my head. I will ask for your patience with me. It tends to happen too often for my liking. I'll choose to believe the latter since EA has a reputation for placing franchises on ice when the sales numbers don't hold up (e.g. Dead Space, Mass Effect). However, the fact is that, while sales are a very important part of the decision-making process they are not the only part. I have yet to see EA motivated by anything other than money. They, on occasion, make some decisions to better their image, but EA has gone way down that point where they earn the benefit of the doubt for anything. Which is why, when Anthem released in its original state, everyone blamed EA, at first, when the problem was entirely on Bioware this time. Sony's decision to remaster TLoU was more to push the PS4 than increase sales of that title Yes, indeed. But it was a "fresh" game, on a new console, with a guaranteed good time, for those who liked it and they were many. 1 million copies sold for that, on release, is not to be laughed at. ME won't get close to that. I don't see it being neither as good a job or a remaster, as TLOU was. I expect it to sell more along the lines of the Silent Hill HD collection or the Batman Arkham Collection. Was the Arkham Collection ever released? I just remember the terrible videos with Hugo Strange and thinking how bad it looked, compared to the original games. I can't seem to find any sales data. Weird. Maybe they got laughed at hard enough to cancel them. Not that the Batman games needed a remaster, anyway. Mirror's Edge: Catalyst would never have seen the light of day going by the numbers of the previous game alone, but maybe this was a fluke, or part of a strategy to buy back some good will from fans, or maybe EA thought DICE could do no wrong Catalyst was a vastly inferior job to the original Mirror's Edge. The investment in that game was far smaller and only happened because of fan outcry. Which is something we are getting with the rumoured MET Remaster at this point. And if this thing doesn't sell, ME goes back to the IP freezer. And I'm pretty sure, this isn't the way to go about getting your fans back, nor getting new fans in, because none of the events of the MET matter anymore, after the jump to Andromeda. As for DICE, well, DICE has, apparently, been of a streak of doing wrong, lately. EA just dumped Battlefront 2 and Battlefield V, with a lot of promised content still left undelivered for both titles. Of course, good luck seeing a sequel with those sales numbers. With Anthem having tanked hard and no new entries in their flagship franchises on the horizon, going the remaster route seems like the easiest way to make a quick buck with limited resources True. There's nothing Bioware could do. Which makes it increasingly and painfully more obvious that in the next couple of years we won't be seeing any other Bioware franchise get a new title release. But since DA is the next game, a DA remaster would make more sense. God knows DA:O could use one and since it's been 6 years already since the previous game in the franchise and another two, at the very least, until the next one, DA could benefit from the renewed interest more than ME. An ME remaster, as we move closer to DA4's launch and the announcement of the next ME, then would be a great time to announce the ME remaster. But that's not what's happening. They are using the MET remaster as a way to gauge interest and viability of ME as a franchise, before EA commits to a sequel. At least, the way I can interpret the move. If you look at what titles EA has listed as " coming soon" on their site, you'll see C&C Remastered Collection and Burnout Paradise Remastered (what's the market for those I wonder) I don't know. But I am interested in the C&C remaster. I mean, I was. It looks terrible. Since the C&C games were pretty old and it's quite possible there were compatibility issues with newer versions of Windows, in which case this is a very good opportunity for EA. And the C&C franchise as well. I don't know about Burnout, though, to be honest. I'm not much of a racing fan and I don't know much about the racing community. This is obviously another attempt to revive an old franchise as well. Last game in the Burnout series was released in 2008, apparently. I wouldn't be surprised if these franchises get sequel announcements, if their remasters do well. What saddens me is that ME gets lumped in with these figuratively dead IPs. We shouldn't be here. We shouldn't have to be here. To be here, something, somewhere, went very, very wrong. Possibly, the better reason to quickly produce and release remasters right now is the fact that both Sony and Microsoft are releasing new consoles and will want to fill up their release line-ups with strong offerings. Short of new entries in a popular franchise, remasters are the next best thing. Who knows, maybe Sony or Microsoft are paying for part of that remaster Maybe they are, but it doesn't look like this will be such a job to take that much advantage of the new hardware. Not to the point to make them a significant upgrade to the versions of the game we already have. And, as I said, PS doesn't have that much of a ME fanbase, as ME sells more on XBOX, as it started as an XBOX exclusive. It also allows EA to keep (some would argue reignite) and/or gauge interest in the Mass Effect franchise since any new entry is years away This is exactly what it is. And I doubt it will perform to the extent EA wants it to. A remaster won't wow anyone, especially of ME2 and ME3 as they hold up pretty well (and even ME1 to some extent), but I don't think that's the point of this exercise. Could be wrong though, this is EA after all. You're right that it won't wow anyone. It would require such a huge amount of work to make it worthwhile, that it would be doubtful whether it's worth the effort, just to retreat old ground. Even the Final Fantasy 7 remaster didn't sell that great. Final Fantasy 7's various remasters and re-releases that it had over the years, sold consistently in the hundreds of thousands and this is probably one of the most popular games of all time, vastly more popular than ME. I don't see this being a runaway success, nor something Mike Gamble will be able to parade around. I'm afraid we'll just go back in the locker, after this.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 13:33:34 GMT
With this mine of salt are you still on debt? No, Hanako. I wish you luck in your endeavors. You're going to need it.
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2020 14:31:30 GMT
Cyberstrike Buddy, I don't know if you understand what this remaster is. It's a rerelease of the games with a texture pack and an ENB/reshade. And it's being made to justify ME's existence in Bioware's portfolio of franchises, going forward, after Andromeda buried the franchise. If you want Andromeda 2, Bioware wants you to spend your $60 in droves for a texture pack, so they can believe that you still care. They don't give two shits about the people that cried foul with ME3. Nor do they care for their fanbase, they just want your money. But I guess Fanbois gotta rage about something, I guess. I mean isn't that same for every game developer? I'm sure Bioware cares about their fanbase to a degree.
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 9, 2020 14:36:24 GMT
Nor do they care for their fanbase, they just want your money. But I guess Fanbois gotta rage about something, I guess. I mean isn't that same for every game developer? I'm sure Bioware cares about their fanbase to a degree. True, but there's developers like ID Software, who actually put effort into their works. Bio just F about for a few years then slap something together in the last year or so and demand full price, knowing that it's a broken mess on release day.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 15:14:05 GMT
I'm sure Bioware cares about their fanbase to a degree. I have my doubts on that. Otherwise, they sure have a funny way of showing it, when they called fans dumb for not "understanding" their "artistic vision".
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Post by OdanUrr on May 9, 2020 15:24:16 GMT
But since DA is the next game, a DA remaster would make more sense. Now there's a thought, remaking DA:O and DA2 using Frostbite or UE4. I would be very interested in seeing the result of that.
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Post by ClarkKent on May 9, 2020 15:28:47 GMT
As much as I criticise Andromeda I do wonder if, had it been created by some cutesy AA developer, whether it would resemble a cult classic now among the typical demographic that hates on Bioware.
I can just see it now 'yeah the animations are dodgy but at least I can explore unlike Bioware games lolol'.
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Post by operationathena on May 9, 2020 15:32:29 GMT
I'd definitely pick it up whether it's a remaster or a remake, though I'd love to see their take on the latter. Hell, I'd actually just love to see ME1 with combat a la ME2/ME3 as that would make that game perfect IMO.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 15:36:45 GMT
Now there's a thought, remaking DA:O and DA2 using Frostbite or UE4. I would be very interested in seeing the result of that. It would be much more beneficial to the DA franchise and its public perception. You also have a new game in the franchise coming after Anthem. So it is prevalent and timely, to promote DA over ME. Especially since there isn't a DA "trilogy" version that can be played on all console systems. DA:O and DA2 were never ported to PS4/XBONE. It would be more costly, to port from Aurora 2.0 or whatever engine Bioware used at the time (Eclipse for DA:O and Lycium for DA2, apparently), to whatever new engine they intend to, but it is a smarter move. Then 2 years after the release of the DA remaster/remake/whatever, make the MET remaster, because you are now close to the release of the DA game, but the ME game is announced, with a title and everything and you want people to revisit the titles that built ME up, to hype people up for your next game.
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Post by themikefest on May 9, 2020 15:41:13 GMT
But since DA is the next game, a DA remaster would make more sense. Now there's a thought, remaking DA:O and DA2 using Frostbite or UE4. I would be very interested in seeing the result of that. Here's another thought. What if not only the ME trilogy gets remastered, but DAO and DA2 does as well with all games put in one package including all dlc and all weapon and armor packs?
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 15:48:31 GMT
As much as I criticise Andromeda I do wonder if, had it been created by some cutesy AA developer, whether it would resemble a cult classic now among the typical demographic that hates on Bioware. I can just see it now 'yeah the animations are dodgy but at least I can explore unlike Bioware games lolol'. I don't know, honestly. I wouldn't have bought it for the Obsidian logo, nor the Spiders logo. As I've quoted some user from a different community before "Andromeda reads like an AI approximation of human interaction". I would have been more forgiving of the production values and if the game was appropriately priced on launch to something like $39,99. The marketing push that Andromeda had, ultimately and the disparity between quality of final product, as it was advertised, vs asking price, left a lot to be desired, but there's no excuse for the quality of writing.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 15:49:39 GMT
Here's another thought. What if not only the ME trilogy gets remastered, but DAO and DA2 does as well with all games put in one package including all dlc and all weapon and armor packs? That's a steal, Mike. You wanna put EA out of business?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 9, 2020 16:14:31 GMT
Now there's a thought, remaking DA:O and DA2 using Frostbite or UE4. I would be very interested in seeing the result of that. It would be much more beneficial to the DA franchise and its public perception. You also have a new game in the franchise coming after Anthem. So it is prevalent and timely, to promote DA over ME. Especially since there isn't a DA "trilogy" version that can be played on all console systems. DA:O and DA2 were never ported to PS4/XBONE. It would be more costly, to port from Aurora 2.0 or whatever engine Bioware used at the time (Eclipse for DA:O and Lycium for DA2, apparently), to whatever new engine they intend to, but it is a smarter move. Then 2 years after the release of the DA remaster/remake/whatever, make the MET remaster, because you are now close to the release of the DA game, but the ME game is announced, with a title and everything and you want people to revisit the titles that built ME up, to hype people up for your next game. That's not strictly true as li8ke with the ME trilogy I believe DAO and DA2 are available via backwards compatability on XB1 at least I've heard they are.
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Post by themikefest on May 9, 2020 16:21:21 GMT
Here's another thought. What if not only the ME trilogy gets remastered, but DAO and DA2 does as well with all games put in one package including all dlc and all weapon and armor packs? That's a steal, Mike. You wanna put EA out of business? If they were to sell the whole bundle for, I don't know, $100, how many would buy it? Either way, I don't see them doing that, though I do see DAO and DA2 eventually getting remastered depending on how well the ME trilogy remaster sells. Time will tell.
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 9, 2020 16:27:35 GMT
That's not strictly true as li8ke with the ME trilogy I believe DAO and DA2 are available via backwards compatability on XB1 at least I've heard they are. Are they? Even so, the DA games have aged far worse than the ME games. If anything could use a remaster, those would be it. And they are in Bioware's proprietary engine, which they could pick back up and update, so no need to pay Epic royalties for UE3.
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