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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 15:42:57 GMT
But it's still funny because she didn't even realize that her people had a beacon hidden. I bet the old Shadow Broker knew about it. I doubt it. After all everything he knew she knew since she got all of his information. Even Tevos, the Asari Councilor, didn’t know about the beacon until the Matriarchs told her to tell Shepard. Seeing as Todd Howard- sorry, Casy Hudson, doesn't plan that far ahead when it comes to ironing out the little details, we'll never know.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 8, 2020 15:45:14 GMT
That's a weird way to spell Mac Walters, but sure.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 15:45:59 GMT
But it's still funny because she didn't even realize that her people had a beacon hidden. I bet the old Shadow Broker knew about it. I'm sure he did, the old broker was implied to be some creepy ass stalker who knew everything about everybody in the most absurdly OP way possible. Again his depiction in ME2 is one of many characters that got beaten with the Wallter's stick of "everythings gotta be like an action movie now!" Yeah, true. I even wonder if the Shadow Broker (the old one) was even the real one. It wouldn't surprise me if the organisation was led by not one person, but many.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 15:47:20 GMT
That's a weird way to spell Mac Walters, but sure. They are like carbon copies of each other, so it's hard to separate the two.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Oct 8, 2020 15:50:06 GMT
Really, your argument is that her deliberately written jokey behavior while Shepard speeds and careens wildly into oncoming traffic makes her unsuitable? I'm sorry but this point in particular is a total reach in order to reinforce a negative bias. Because literally everyone who isn't a bat shit insane adrenalin junkie (like Shepard) WOULD be screaming. Even you. If you read my post on this page, you would have noticed I mentioned other things as well, not just the scene in the dlc. As far as me screaming, no. Why? Because I realize Shepard is doing what is possible to stop Vasir from getting away. what part of "this point in particular" did you miss? You're bitching about a scene that exists purely for comedic purpose, and a scene that is actually pretty damn funny if you don't have a huge Liara hate stick up your ass. Maybe the problem is you're just thinking like a robot, and how you expect everyone else around should just be a robot with no emotional responses to anything because "theres a job to do".
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Post by themikefest on Oct 8, 2020 15:52:46 GMT
But it's still funny because she didn't even realize that her people had a beacon hidden. I bet the old Shadow Broker knew about it. I doubt it. After all everything he knew she knew since she got all of his information. Even Tevos, the Asari Councilor, didn’t know about the beacon until the Matriarchs told her to tell Shepard. The replacement councilor knew.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Oct 8, 2020 15:54:04 GMT
That's a weird way to spell Mac Walters, but sure. I mean, yes Walters is technically the one who broke everything. But Hudson is just as guilty for basically sitting back and letting Walter's break everything.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 15:57:44 GMT
That's a weird way to spell Mac Walters, but sure. I mean, yes Walters is technically the one who broke everything. But Hudson is just as guilty for basically sitting back and letting Walter's break everything. It was also those two who decided to end ME3 the way that it did. Without the rest of the MET team.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 8, 2020 15:57:54 GMT
If you read my post on this page, you would have noticed I mentioned other things as well, not just the scene in the dlc. As far as me screaming, no. Why? Because I realize Shepard is doing what is possible to stop Vasir from getting away. what part of "this point in particular" did you miss? You're bitching about a scene that exists purely for comedic purpose, and a scene that is actually pretty damn funny if you don't have a huge Liara hate stick up your ass. Maybe the problem is you're just thinking like a robot, and how you expect everyone else around should just be a robot with no emotional responses to anything because "theres a job to do". Or maybe the problem is you can't accept that someone sees the scene from a different perspective from you.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 8, 2020 16:04:24 GMT
Really, your argument is that her deliberately written jokey behavior while Shepard speeds and careens wildly into oncoming traffic makes her unsuitable? I'm sorry but this point in particular is a total reach in order to reinforce a negative bias. Because literally everyone who isn't a bat shit insane adrenalin junkie (like Shepard) WOULD be screaming. Even you. If you read my post on this page, you would have noticed I mentioned other things as well, not just the scene in the dlc. As far as me screaming, no. Why? Because I realize Shepard is doing what is possible to stop Vasir from getting away. Flying through the air in a defenseless civilian vehicle many miles per hour while proximity charges are being thrown at you and other vehicles are flying this way and that? You might just pee a little. Deny it all you want, but deep down in your little black heart you know it’s true.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 8, 2020 16:09:32 GMT
If you read my post on this page, you would have noticed I mentioned other things as well, not just the scene in the dlc. As far as me screaming, no. Why? Because I realize Shepard is doing what is possible to stop Vasir from getting away. Flying through the air in a defenseless civilian vehicle many miles per hour while proximity charges are being thrown at you and other vehicles are flying this way and that? You might just pee a little. Deny it all you want, but deep down in your little black heart you know it’s true. If you believe I might pee a little bit, then I guess you would likely lose half your body weight by crapping all over yourself.
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Post by KaiserShep on Oct 8, 2020 16:10:43 GMT
what part of "this point in particular" did you miss? You're bitching about a scene that exists purely for comedic purpose, and a scene that is actually pretty damn funny if you don't have a huge Liara hate stick up your ass. Maybe the problem is you're just thinking like a robot, and how you expect everyone else around should just be a robot with no emotional responses to anything because "theres a job to do". Or maybe the problem is you can't accept that someone sees the scene from a different perspective from you. Determining intent of tone for a scene like this isn’t very difficult. If someone insists on taking the thoroughly literal, humorless take on said scene, that’s their prerogative, but it doesn’t really change what the entire chase sequence was going for. Like, it’s not even hard to figure out that any character placed as the centerpiece of this mini campaign would probably have similar if not identical reactions to get the same effect. Like, if, say, Miranda was in that seat instead of Liara, we’d get the same reactions, because the intent is to get that same effect of the worried NPC while Shepard is laughing behind the wheel. Scenes like this don’t function to establish key character traits; they exist to amuse the player.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Oct 8, 2020 17:01:33 GMT
what part of "this point in particular" did you miss? You're bitching about a scene that exists purely for comedic purpose, and a scene that is actually pretty damn funny if you don't have a huge Liara hate stick up your ass. Maybe the problem is you're just thinking like a robot, and how you expect everyone else around should just be a robot with no emotional responses to anything because "theres a job to do". Or maybe the problem is you can't accept that someone sees the scene from a different perspective from you. Not really, your problem, basically, is she has emotions. That is the heart of every single one of your complaints. You just want her to shut up and be a robot who just focuses on "the job at hand" and have her never deviate from that programming the entire time. Aside from gameplay complaints, literally every single story complaint you've mentioned is just bitching about her having emotions about things. You'll deny it of course but that's what your entire stance is really. " When seeing her the first time, she says she must have panicked hitting the wrong button trapping herself. Then she turns chicken when facing the krogan. Those are two traits you wouldn't want a squadmate having. Then on Ilos she wants to stick around to study the achives instead of stopping Saren. In ME2. during the broker dlc, she turns into a scaredy-cat when chasing Vasir. After the broker is killed, she cries like a baby. Those are traits that you wouldn't want a squadmate having. In ME3, on Mars, she mentions something about wasting time scurrying around trying to stop the reapers. That's not good having negative thoughts. it brings morale down. Then when heading to Thessia, she says she can't be callous. Why wasn't there an option to go back to replace her with a squadmate who can be callous?"This is literally just whining about feelings and how dare she not be a robot who only thinks of the mission. The rest of your complaints, from the post before that, which I Liked, btw, are the faults of Bioware's lackluster writing, and not a problem of Liara being bad, so again, your anger is directed at the wrong thing.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 8, 2020 17:19:32 GMT
I mean, yes Walters is technically the one who broke everything. But Hudson is just as guilty for basically sitting back and letting Walter's break everything. I think they both got caught up in it. It's easy to miss the picture, when you agree on an idea and be excited about "cracking" the endings. I'm sure they were both relieved when they came up with the idea. So excited that they failed to see it wasn't that good an idea. On a personal level, I can understand. On a professional level, holy fuck, what where they smoking? They might have been a little high. Like, I assume at least Mac had hit a blunt, when he came up with the idea.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 17:21:45 GMT
I mean, yes Walters is technically the one who broke everything. But Hudson is just as guilty for basically sitting back and letting Walter's break everything. I think they both got caught up in it. It's easy to miss the picture, when you agree on an idea and be excited about "cracking" the endings. I'm sure they were both relieved when they came up with the idea. So excited that they failed to see it wasn't that good an idea. On a personal level, I can understand. On a professional level, holy fuck, what where they smoking? They might have been a little high. Like, I assume at least Mac had hit a blunt, when he came up with the idea. Or "skied the Alps" as it were....
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 8, 2020 17:25:59 GMT
Or "skied the Alps" as it were.... That's a lot of snow. Maybe they got a visit from my favourite comic book villain, Snowflame
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 17:27:00 GMT
Or "skied the Alps" as it were.... That's a lot of snow. Maybe they got a visit from my favourite comic book villain, SnowflameNot that kind of snow. 😉
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 8, 2020 17:38:25 GMT
Oh yes, that kind of snow.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 17:42:02 GMT
Oh yes, that kind of snow. Not sure about Hudson. He is a big Fanboy of Deus Ex and the ME3's ending looks suspiciously like the ending to that game.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 8, 2020 17:52:32 GMT
Not sure about Hudson. He is a big Fanboy of Deus Ex and the ME3's ending looks suspiciously like the ending to that game. Yeah. I remember the tweets. Or whatever it was that they were on, 8 years ago. Well, 9 now.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 8, 2020 18:01:59 GMT
This is literally just whining about feelings and how dare she not be a robot who only thinks of the mission. Why is it whining? Being focused on the mission doesn't make a character a robot. Just makes them want to complete the mission with as few problems as possible.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 8, 2020 18:43:40 GMT
Oh yes, that kind of snow. Not sure about Hudson. He is a big Fanboy of Deus Ex and the ME3's ending looks suspiciously like the ending to that game. Nah. The Deus Ex endings were actually good and flowed organically from the story being told.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Oct 8, 2020 18:46:18 GMT
Not sure about Hudson. He is a big Fanboy of Deus Ex and the ME3's ending looks suspiciously like the ending to that game. Nah. The Deus Ex endings were actually good and flowed organically from the story being told. Never played Dues Ex so I'll have to take your word for it. Then again, it probably is better.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Oct 8, 2020 21:03:51 GMT
Nah. The Deus Ex endings were actually good and flowed organically from the story being told. Well, yes. And in that tweet he did post how their own ending reminded him of Deus Ex. Only without the groundwork to back it up and thus failing completely. Oh, hey, remember when I said that was nine years ago? Are we ready for year nine of "complaining about the ME3 endings"? Still going. Across the internet. Fantastic. I bet Bioware never thought we'd make it this far, yet here we are.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 9, 2020 1:23:02 GMT
Nah. The Deus Ex endings were actually good and flowed organically from the story being told. Never played Dues Ex so I'll have to take your word for it. Then again, it probably is better. Long story short, THe Bad Guys were potting on merging a human mind with an AI to seize control of global communications, take control of all media, manipulate all data, etc. You have three options: 1) Kill the Big Bad and allow the Illuminati (your "enemy of my enemy"-type allies) to take over the world. and you are rewarded with "a seat at the table", filling one of several vacancies in their inner circle. 2) Blow the complex, denying anyone access to this kind of power. The consequence being you crash global communications, bringing about a "mini dark age" 3) Go through the merging process yourself, becoming a gestalt intelligence and essentially becoming a techno-god, though perhaps at the cost of your individuality. Control, Destroy, Synthesis You have people advocating for all three options in the final level. People you have worked with throughout the game. And each goal has its own separate objectives. You can even bounce from one to another until you complete one of them. It was NOT just "shoot a tube, grab electrodes, jump in the green magic" You want an ending, you work for it. And none of the outcomes are sugarcoated. No ending was perfect. But all have potential to be better.
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