Dragon Age The Veilguard Criticism Thread (formerly Skepticism Thread) [Spoilers]

There's more retcons than that, sadly. Taash tells us at one point

Well, just to throw something out there regarding temples and statues and such. In the real world there are statues and icons of saints, and churches named after saints all the time, but that doesn't equal worship, but veneration, and an appeal for their intersession. To name a church after a saint is to signal that that is the patron saint of the parish, who prays for them in heaven. Just throwing it out there that this might be an influence.

Edited because I posted this too early on accident lol.

I would definitely need to see it in game to get a handle on it. I am glad to hear there is some presence in the game, I was always curious about northern Andrastianism.

Zevran was voiced by Jon Curry. Lucanis was voiced by Zach Mendez.

I miss the days you didn’t have to care about every party member’s feefees.

After centuries, the ambitious and magic using find a way.

Failed Exalted Marches against Tevinter also likely emboldened Tevinter to increasingly push back and establish their new norm.

But even they can't reverse centuries of developed tradition. There's Andrastan Tevines, and even more that at least respect her for being a mage (?) that freed the slaves. I'm sure if certain supremacist magisters had their way everyone'd be worshipping human god-mages exclusively, but that's where concepts of the Venatori come from.

The banter here alone is better than the entire dialogue of DA:TV. God forbid characters be mean to each other. All I feel when playing DA4 is sadness

Inquisition had a method to the madness when it came to companions. They were meant to represent different points of view in regards to the prevailing issues surrounding Thedas and Mage vs Templar conflict. They were put at odds with each other, at worst tolerating each other while trying to find some common ground, but at best becoming great friends regardless of their differences. And regardless how they would feel about each other, they would persist in the Inquisition because it was the best way to resolve the looming apocalyptic threats Thedas is facing (unless, of course, you piss some of them off and they leave) and further their own personal agenda.

Veilguard companions are just... a bunch of random self-involved people who just happen to want to help, and the game fails to give them any real subjects to fight over. The game is incredibly apolitical and doesn't want to dwell on divisive subjects that might come about. Like the LEAST you could come up with was Andrastianism vs Dalish faith in the context of what's happening in the game but that was only lightly touched upon and there was no real debate over it at all. 

A bunch of Sera's

In the words of jerk inquisitor: "you're mostly a criminal. helping is only side effect". God, we taken Inquisition's dialogue for granted. It is a gem. Especially the banter. Listening to DA:TV's dialogue, while losing brain cells, I'm just at loss for words... like, what happened? Is David Gaider truly the glue that held everything together?

Where things stand (for now).

#5 seller on Steam, right above BG3 ($48) & CP2077 ($30) at #6 & #7, respectively. That tells me it isn't receiving the positive word of mouth that BG3 got post-launch.

Has a mostly positive review score of 73.6% on Steam - down from 80% at launch though. Before it's said and done it'll drop into the mid-60's.

Metacritic scores are abysmal: 2.3 on PC, 3.9 on PS, & 3.7 on Xbox. BG3 & CP2077 have PC user scores of 9.2 & 7.2, respectively.

29K active players as of this moment. For comparison, Warframe 35K, BG3 34K, and Cyberpunk 21K. There is nothing else of the genre that I noticed in top 50.