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Post by Adia on Nov 30, 2024 18:02:50 GMT
I'm like 100% sure that TV killed the continuation of the story for at least 10 years with how negatively the writing was received. The only way for this franchise to come back is through a remake of Origins; many YouTubers and fans are revisiting Origins and setting the ground for that. Origins is a very trendy topic these days, due to how terrible TV is.
The question that comes to my mind- would Bioware even dare to revisit Origins? desire demons, broodmothers, scary darkspawn, spiders, undiverse cast, evil choices. Isn't Dragon Age supposed to be about friendships and rainbows? Companion characters in Origins do bad stuff instead of being anti-colonial-slave-freeing-quirky-non-binary-freedom-fighters, how would the developers be able to handle that without removing content?
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Nov 30, 2024 18:16:10 GMT
I'm like 100% sure that TV killed the continuation of the story for at least 10 years with how negatively the writing was received. The only way for this franchise to come back is through a remake of Origins; many YouTubers and fans are revisiting Origins and setting the ground for that. Origins is a very trendy topic these days, due to how terrible TV is. The question that comes to my mind- would Bioware even dare to revisit Origins? desire demons, broodmothers, scary darkspawn, spiders, undiverse cast, evil choices. Isn't Dragon Age supposed to be about friendships and rainbows? Companion characters in Origins do bad stuff instead of being anti-colonial-slave-freeing-quirky-non-binary-freedom-fighters, how would the developers be able to handle that without removing content? They'd ruin a dao remake
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Post by necrowaif on Nov 30, 2024 18:18:46 GMT
BioWare has already ruled out a DAO remaster and doesn’t seem to have much interest in doing anything further with the IP, a clumsy attempt at a sequel hook involving the Executors notwithstanding. Absolution Season 2 is also for all intents and purposes not happening and I doubt there will be further books or comics.
I think the most you’ll see out of the Dragon Age IP going forward is an attempt at a reboot maybe 10 years down the line, likely done by another studio other than BioWare (if it still exists).
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Nov 30, 2024 18:30:08 GMT
BioWare has already ruled out a DAO remaster and doesn’t seem to have much interest in doing anything further with the IP, a clumsy attempt at a sequel hook involving the Executors notwithstanding. They'd make a lot of money if they did a dao and DA2 remaster but bioware is allergic to money lol
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Post by imatotachi on Nov 30, 2024 18:49:47 GMT
I don't know what the hell BioWare is doing these days and who is to blame for all this development hell game after game but it's really sad. I was expecting Minrathous to be big and that we'd get to explore different parts of the city, from the slums to the rich magister mansions. Instead we get one area we have to navigate like a maze. Sigh. I'll copy-paste my assumption about all this chaos that I posted a few days earlier elsewhere: (quote end) It looks as if they took random dude that played DA:Origins once 10 years ago, gave him beautiful, full of nuances and double-meanings, ambivalent characters and culture-rich regions, dripping with lore script and told him: Hey, here is the script, now cross out anything that is confusing. And he crossed out over half of it. It's also believable that the game at certain time was developed for younger audience. Correct me if I'm wrong (I played only once), but any kind of intimacy looks like kid show with kiss being only lip kiss, and never French kiss; common complain I see is also romance culmination scene fade into darkness. Or Scooby-Doo design of antagonists. And even the artistic direction (which I don't mind on it's own). Design of the puzzles is also very simplistic. And I nearly forgot about the power-of-friendship. It's such a Frankenstein of the game as if pieced from few other games each targeting completely different audience.
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Post by andorvex on Nov 30, 2024 19:02:16 GMT
I think it's a fantasy. I highly doubt anyone who is not Bioware will remake DAO. And sorry to say, but I wouldn't want a DAO remake by Bioware
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Post by Templar Knight on Nov 30, 2024 19:25:31 GMT
"Well, why do you care if the Venatori have the largest army in Thedas?"
Because it challenges my immersion. I thought we were done with these fucks, but somehow their numbers grew exponentially following their defeat in DAI. I was questioning this premise back in 2020 when I read Tevinter Nights. How are these fanatics still a force to be reckoned with and have enough red lyrium that one of them is feeding it to his slaves like sweeties in order to make fashion items? However, at least there they were still regarded as a cult by the main establishment. They had some powerful Altus in their membership when they started their campaign in the south but many supporters decided to jump ship after it failed so spectacularly. Also, let us not forget that we were authorised to judge Alexius by the Magisterium as they had denounced him. So where the fuck are they getting all these members? What kind of recruiting pitch are they making that convinces all these experienced fighters and mages to throw away their lives in the service of ELVEN GODS? What did happen to the Archon and the Black Divine? Surely as the Archon explained to Tessa and Marius in Magekiller, opposing someone setting themselves up as overlord was a matter of survival? However, the Black Divine was also not averse to using blood magic and was totally ruthless. The Venatori should have been dealt with long before DAV and he should have been a major player against the Evanuris. I have to admit I had imagined having to choose between the Lucerni led by Maevaris and Dorian or the Magisterium led by the Archon and the Black Divine when it came to which faction among the powerful elite we wished to deal with against our common enemy. Meanwhile, the Shadow Dragons were an entirely different faction representing the lower ranks in Tevinter Society, the people according to their short story that the Altus forgot. I had been really hopeful that the Viper would turn out to be Calpernia, who had defected from the Venatori after she discovered their abuse of slaves in their red lyrium factories. Instead the Lucerni had morphed into the Shadow Dragons, the Magisterium were nowhere in sight and the Venatori was now some all powerful faction that had entirely taken over the Tevinter elite. Yet another example of how they rendered our efforts in previous games null and void. It's easy to miss, but there's several things in-game indicating that the Viper is actually the Black Divine. Data mining the game files confirms it.
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Post by phoray on Nov 30, 2024 19:53:37 GMT
Viper is actually the Black Divine
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Post by andorvex on Nov 30, 2024 19:55:27 GMT
That's the sort of things that feel like Bioware did them just because.
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Post by Reznore on Nov 30, 2024 20:02:26 GMT
It's easy to miss, but there's several things in-game indicating that the Viper is actually the Black Divine. Data mining the game files confirms it. Ew. The Black Divine was the type of fellow to do purges on a whim. Ashur? I don't remember his name clearly picked a silly nickname and is dressed like a moron. I hope they will let DA RIP.
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Post by Envisionary on Nov 30, 2024 21:01:19 GMT
The datamine also refers to Taash as a Qunari agent. So that may have been left on the cutting room floor.
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Post by imatotachi on Nov 30, 2024 21:02:39 GMT
Ashur? I don't remember his name clearly picked a silly nickname and is dressed like a moron. It is actually in the game as a Venatori note, presented as a rumor, nothing definitive. I've interpreted it more as a nearly certain candidate for Imperial Divine, not the current Divine. I don't like the idea, because it would bleach yet another dark place and "explain" impossible change of the settings. As a side note, the name of the quest is interesting in the context of these few posts here about immortality: The Tempered Soul, Everlasting.
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Post by Templar Knight on Nov 30, 2024 21:04:33 GMT
Ashur? I don't remember his name clearly picked a silly nickname and is dressed like a moron. It is actually in the game as a Venatori note, presented as a rumor, nothing definitive. I've interpreted it more as a nearly certain candidate for Imperial Divine, not the current Divine. I don't like the idea, because it would bleach yet another dark place and "explain" impossible change of the settings. As a side note, the name of the quest is interesting in the context of these few posts here about immortality: The Tempered Soul, Everlasting. If that were the only piece of evidence, it might be so, but there are a couple other things in conjunction with this that strongly imply he is the current Divine.
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Post by imatotachi on Nov 30, 2024 21:14:33 GMT
If that were the only piece of evidence, it might be so, but there are a couple other things in conjunction with this that strongly imply he is the current Divine. Please, do tell? I've looked again into mined game data and Viper has only his age range (thirties) and filename tag mentioned (agent_vigilante). What would be he doing in Dock Town? He would have make much bigger difference by using his position of power...
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Post by Templar Knight on Nov 30, 2024 21:21:57 GMT
If that were the only piece of evidence, it might be so, but there are a couple other things in conjunction with this that strongly imply he is the current Divine. Please, do tell? I've looked again into mined game data and Viper has only his age range (thirties) and filename tag mentioned (agent_vigilante). What would be he doing in Dock Town? He would have make much bigger difference by using his position of power... Neve's case notes on Maevaris Tilani include this snippet: "The Vesperians—another highborn family—have ties to House Tilani. Corimer Vesperian is a traditionalist, but his youngest son... his youngest succeeded Urian Nihalias to become Imperial Divine. Lofty role. But he spoke in support of the Lucerni. At least until their fall." There's also ambient dialogue between Tarquin and the Viper where Tarquin says something along the lines of "Can't you do something about Knight-Commander Lenos? He answers to the Chantry", and the Viper replies "I've tried, but there are people in the Magisterium protecting him". As for the datamining: x.com/amirdrassil/status/1862590710773322216
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Post by imatotachi on Nov 30, 2024 22:17:00 GMT
BTW, not sure if it was mentioned anywhere here, but apart from real fun notes from Gaider (like Flemeth was planned from the beginning to carry a piece of elven god, but it was not decided which one), also Nick Thornborrow is posting some interesting stuff. Thornborrow worked in Bioware for 15 years as concept and story artist; he left in April 2022, so somewhere around the time when the game switched from multiplayer to single player. He still refers to the game that he worked on as Dreadwolf, maybe he didn't like where it was going. I haven't opened my copy of Art of Dragon Age: The Veilguard, as I'm still digesting the game, but perhaps some of the images published by Thornborrow are not included in the book. The narrative sketches with attached text suggest that we could have advisors from each faction. These characters are not all removed (Viago & Teia, Evka & Antoine, etc.), but in Veilguard they serve mostly as quest dispatchers. Think about possibilities though - each faction would deliver their opinions about a certain issues, trying to lobby for their own interests and push Rook to resolve conflicts in different ways. So much more interesting way to earn faction approval than selling junk to their respective sellers. There is an image for "flavor text", which I suppose was to be displayed with Rook's background description... but I wonder if the earlier versions didn't intend to include actual origins for each Rook. IMO the sketches suggest also more variety in these background than ignored orders to protect others, though of course it's difficult to say based on one picture. Mourn Watchers image (rightfully) gives some creepy vibes. And there is one image for faction quest. I really need to replay Veilguard, because my memory is very hazy... Crows had quest related to Ivenci betrayal, Gray Wardens had Weisshupt assault, Lord of Fortunes had arena only(?), Veil Jumpers - rescuing missing Veil Jumpers or was there anything more substantial? Mourn Watch - hauntings? And Shadow Dragons, I have problem to separate faction quest from Neve's quest... Anyhow, Lord of Fortunes had full fledged story (also there was some dude with Isabella as second advisor), Mourn Watch had some portal(?) involved in their story, Shadow Dragons obviously were freeing slaves (elven slaves specifically) in their faction quest. Veil Jumpers had some new creature, I thought originally it was perhaps some old animalistic god of Arlathan Forest (still bitter to not get anything related to Elder Tree), but perhaps it was just boss fight... Wardens' quest seem to be assimilated into Davrin story or introduction of Bellara (Ogre); for Wardens it is hard to tell which sketch is "flavor text", and which "faction quest". Similarly with Shadow Dragons... part of their story may have been assimilated in Treasure of Sharkmouth (at least the sketch makes me think about this boss fight), which is surprising as it's mixed quest touching Wardens and Lords of Fortune, but originating from Shadow Dragons. Lots of juggling or I may be wrong with my interpretations.
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Post by wickedcool on Dec 1, 2024 1:02:10 GMT
Been playing now for a while
There’s literally a rotation of 5-6 enemies They cut a major weapon type that has been a staple in every game!!
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