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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 17, 2024 13:08:19 GMT
But the guy basically said "ugly women, non binary, and a black guy is in charge, game ruined you know." Why talk on a podcast, do a youtube video with DATV WOKE with some ugly thumbnails like the thousand others. Yeah that was weird... I hate super in your face woke bullshit too but the guy couldn't seem to form a proper sentence without the girl prodding him and it was difficult to understand what he was even talking about. Who releases a video like that? As if interviewing a deranged stranger on the street. I'm here for the circus but that's just lame.
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Post by Envisionary on Oct 17, 2024 13:17:34 GMT
Again, for all the valid criticisms thrown at this game, a lot of the hate I see for it is visibly astroturfed fake outrage. Especially on Youtube.
The game will either be good or mid. Not the worst thing to stain humanity's legacy because you saw a minority or top surgery scars. The people that consume this ragebait are trapped in a cycle and won't know it until they mentally age a day past 12.
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Post by bierkrug on Oct 17, 2024 13:32:40 GMT
I'm taking this interview with 25 pounds of salt but I wouldn't be surprised if Weekes couldn't hold himself back with injecting gender ideology into this. We know Taash is nonbinary since the achievements came out after all. (Too bad I won't be able to throw her out of the team...)
What he says about Inky's and the inquisitions overall involvement as well as Solas' fate would make sense but really, anyone could have guessed that.
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Post by fistoffiori on Oct 17, 2024 13:32:51 GMT
Again, for all the valid criticisms thrown at this game, the hate I see for it is visibly astroturfed fake outrage. Especially on Youtube. The game will either be good or mid. Not the worst thing to stain humanity's legacy because you saw a minority or top surgery scars. The people that consume this ragebait are trapped in a cycle and won't know it until they mentally age a day past 12. Her channel seems to be like that. It got recommended in my Youtube feed so watched a bit (bits of a couple of videos). She was basically ripping into other people's videos. She also has a fixation on Eddie ('Uni Fade walker') it seems? Because of said coverage of scars (I still don't see the problem with their inclusion). Anyway watching someone watch then pause and complain about someone else's opinion isn't my kind of video. But being angry on YouTube is a lucrative cottage industry right now. People love an echo chamber. EDIT: Before anyone thinks it, that isn't aimed at anyone here, just the general paying audience for these channels.
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Post by bierkrug on Oct 17, 2024 13:40:56 GMT
She also has a fixation on Eddie ('Uni Fade walker') it seems?
[Redacted brief summation of drama between content creators] *Nuhre is fun to watch because she know her lore and cares about Dragon Age. Her current success is based on vibing with disappointed DA fans. * Redacted because it's not really fair to spell out personal dramas between small content creators behind their back. SofaJockey
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 17, 2024 13:43:48 GMT
An actual playtester has to test the entire game. No one in their right mind would publish a game where only the first act (out of several) was actually playtested. It's like publishing a book where only chapter 1 was proof-read.
Not sure if the guy is really a playtester... I suppose we'll know more once the game is out, most likely followed by a Jason Schreier article. But what I've seen so far is not encouraging. The writing in any gameplay scene I've seen is ChatGPT tier boring and repetitive. It reminded me a lot of AC: Valhalla - very pretty to look at, similar looking combat, super bland conversations/banter that I forgot the minute they were over.
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Post by 10k on Oct 17, 2024 13:52:48 GMT
That's why I said, allegedly. I don't know if the guy is telling the truth. But in two weeks we will find out.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Oct 17, 2024 13:52:51 GMT
Yeah, the writing... in every trailer I've seen so far it's pretty darn boring. Lots of the banter feels like AI generated filler. I mean, in the intro mission Rook says something like "What's the plan when we find Solas?" Seriously? You agreed to go against one of the most powerful people in existence and you all rushed in without even a short discussion about what you are going to do when you actually get there? "Hey Chuckles, I don't want to interrupt" (Varric of course). Ouch-cringe. Yes, this all feels very important because every character is taking it so seriously. Lol I'm just going to surprise-shouldertap the guy doing a potentially very dangerous ritual here. Anyone doing that to someone handling a hot pan in the kitchen would be rightfully considered an idiot. Has anyone experienced any moment in any Veilguard trailer that made you think "Yes, this seems to be an exciting story / interesting character that I want to know more about"? I certainly haven't. "Hey guys some blighted elven gods are tearing the world apart, wanna come with?" - "Sure thing bro." Who is this written for? It's reminiscent of Andromeda's banter, although not as bad. Just listening to the characters talk in that game was annoying.
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Post by fistoffiori on Oct 17, 2024 13:59:17 GMT
She also has a fixation on Eddie ('Uni Fade walker') it seems? Pretty sure she called nuhre a bitch and that made her angry. Nuhre also called her out over "I'm not associated with Bioware and neutral when reporting on the game" when she apparently is anything but that. Nuhre is fun to watch because she know her lore and cares about Dragon Age. Her current success is based on vibing with disappointed DA fans. If I made a video about enjoying something and someone made a hate video about my video, I'd feel like calling names too. I probably actually wouldn't end up calling names because it just gives the oxygen of publicity. Anyway, I'm not that interested in mudslinging from either side. It'll all be academic in 2 weeks time (and onward) when people play the game and decide for themselves.
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Post by Envisionary on Oct 17, 2024 13:59:41 GMT
Again, for all the valid criticisms thrown at this game, the hate I see for it is visibly astroturfed fake outrage. Especially on Youtube. The game will either be good or mid. Not the worst thing to stain humanity's legacy because you saw a minority or top surgery scars. The people that consume this ragebait are trapped in a cycle and won't know it until they mentally age a day past 12. Her channel seems to be like that. It got recommended in my Youtube feed so watched a bit (bits of a couple of videos). She was basically ripping into other people's videos. She also has a fixation on Eddie ('Uni Fade walker') it seems? Because of said coverage of scars (I still don't see the problem with their inclusion). Anyway watching someone watch then pause and complain about someone else's opinion isn't my kind of video. But being angry on YouTube is a lucrative cottage industry right now. People love an echo chamber. EDIT: Before anyone thinks it, that isn't aimed at anyone here, just the general paying audience for these channels. Just so you know, none of that was directed at you or anyone who happens to have some curiosity of these videos either, but the ones latched to their seat looking for vindication of their braindead takes like Davrin being black = woke propaganda.
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Post by grallon on Oct 17, 2024 14:04:29 GMT
Nuhre has been gaining traction with her unvarnished, no nonsense approach to criticizing games, especially this one. Quite the breath of fresh air when compared to the usual suspects in the access media (including some prominent youtubers). That being said, I've listened to this interview and the play tester sounded strangely hesitant at times. Perhaps it was a language issue, or perhaps he was walking on eggshells to avoid being identified?
Whatever the case may be, Nuhre said she had seen enough proof to believe his allegations. I suppose you people will see soon enough whether or not these claims are legit.
However, shooting the messenger because you happen to dislike the message is generally not good idea, especially if all this turns out to be true.
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Post by fistoffiori on Oct 17, 2024 14:20:01 GMT
Her channel seems to be like that. It got recommended in my Youtube feed so watched a bit (bits of a couple of videos). She was basically ripping into other people's videos. She also has a fixation on Eddie ('Uni Fade walker') it seems? Because of said coverage of scars (I still don't see the problem with their inclusion). Anyway watching someone watch then pause and complain about someone else's opinion isn't my kind of video. But being angry on YouTube is a lucrative cottage industry right now. People love an echo chamber. EDIT: Before anyone thinks it, that isn't aimed at anyone here, just the general paying audience for these channels. Just so you know, none of that was directed at you or anyone who happens to have some curiosity of these videos either, but the ones latched to their seat looking for vindication of their braindead takes like Davrin being black = woke propaganda. Oh yeah I was agreeing with you (may not be clear as I did end up going on a tangent haha)
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Post by yarus on Oct 17, 2024 14:46:26 GMT
Sobering potential leaks: -The reason that we're only dealing with two of the Evanuris is sequelbaiting. --Ghilan'nain creates new darkspawn, Elgar'nan enslaves the elves. -Solas is sidelined for the entire game in the Fade, and functions at the final boss at the very, very end of the game. --The endings are based on whether you attempt to kill or redeem Solas. -Taash is nonbinary. Not like a qunari/tal-vashoth/vashoth fantasy term, just nonbinary. -Romances were originally intended to be like Inquisition (locked between genders/sex) but were changed to the pansexual style at some point through development. Straight male romances were restricted to Harding and Neve. -Playtester feedback was ignored and not relayed to the devs/writers. -Davrin is a junior scout for the order, apparently modeled after Alistair's role in Origins -You can't ask Morrigan about her past. -No followup to who leaves Hawke/Alistair/Loghain/etc in the Fade -Varric lives but contributes nothing to the story. He just exists in the Lighthouse/safezone area.
Edit: wait, people are already talking about the video lol.
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 17, 2024 14:55:57 GMT
I'm curious to see how "redeeming" Solas is going to work in the game.
No one can grant forgiveness in the name of others (Solas's countless victims) without asking said others first.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 17, 2024 15:29:33 GMT
Sobering potential leaks: -The reason that we're only dealing with two of the Evanuris is sequelbaiting. --Ghilan'nain creates new darkspawn, Elgar'nan enslaves the elves. -Solas is sidelined for the entire game in the Fade, and functions at the final boss at the very, very end of the game. --The endings are based on whether you attempt to kill or redeem Solas. -Taash is nonbinary. Not like a qunari/tal-vashoth/vashoth fantasy term, just nonbinary. -Romances were originally intended to be like Inquisition (locked between genders/sex) but were changed to the pansexual style at some point through development. Straight male romances were restricted to Harding and Neve. -Playtester feedback was ignored and not relayed to the devs/writers. -Davrin is a junior scout for the order, apparently modeled after Alistair's role in Origins -You can't ask Morrigan about her past. -No followup to who leaves Hawke/Alistair/Loghain/etc in the Fade -Varric lives but contributes nothing to the story. He just exists in the Lighthouse/safezone area. Edit: wait, people are already talking about the video lol. If even half of that is true, I'm gonna need a big bucket of popcorn because the howls will be more entertaining than the game itself!
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Post by rekkampum on Oct 17, 2024 15:31:27 GMT
I'm curious to see how "redeeming" Solas is going to work in the game. No one can grant forgiveness in the name of others (Solas's countless victims) without asking said others first. To be fair, they've been doing this since the first game. It's probably going to happen just like it did in the previous ones. At least we got something unique with Inquisition.
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Post by danaxe on Oct 17, 2024 15:40:35 GMT
Just watched the latest cinematic trailer for the game Exodus and my lord that thing hit so hard. Such a short "simple" video and you can see in it the dread, the passion, the storytelling, the darkness both physical and psychological that is very similar to the feeling evoked from the darkspawn and deep roads from Origins. Seeing that, and knowing who it comes from, just gives me this sad defeated feeling of - this is what dragon age could, no, actually what SHOULD be. Instead we are getting Veilguard....
In case you want to weep thinking of what could have been, and get hyped for something in the future:
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Post by LawBringerSR2 on Oct 17, 2024 15:58:32 GMT
Sobering potential leaks: -The reason that we're only dealing with two of the Evanuris is sequelbaiting. --Ghilan'nain creates new darkspawn, Elgar'nan enslaves the elves. -Solas is sidelined for the entire game in the Fade, and functions at the final boss at the very, very end of the game. --The endings are based on whether you attempt to kill or redeem Solas. -Taash is nonbinary. Not like a qunari/tal-vashoth/vashoth fantasy term, just nonbinary. -Romances were originally intended to be like Inquisition (locked between genders/sex) but were changed to the pansexual style at some point through development. Straight male romances were restricted to Harding and Neve. -Playtester feedback was ignored and not relayed to the devs/writers. -Davrin is a junior scout for the order, apparently modeled after Alistair's role in Origins -You can't ask Morrigan about her past. -No followup to who leaves Hawke/Alistair/Loghain/etc in the Fade -Varric lives but contributes nothing to the story. He just exists in the Lighthouse/safezone area. Edit: wait, people are already talking about the video lol. I'm not sure how I feel about the playersexual romances. On the one hand, it guarantees you'll get the romance you want regardless of the character you play. On the other, characters having their own preferences like in ME and Cyberpunk feels way more immersive. As for the story-related stuff, I don't like the way it sounds. Not being able to inquire Morrigan about her past, Varric just being there... not cool. And the sequelbait thing? It's way too late for sequelbaiting, it's been 10 years. I really don't want to add the Black City's nature to the list of unresolved mysteries alongside the disappearance of the Dwemer in TES (that one I don't mind not knowing though)
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Post by LawBringerSR2 on Oct 17, 2024 16:01:21 GMT
Just watched the latest cinematic trailer for the game Exodus and my lord that thing hit so hard. Such a short "simple" video and you can see in it the dread, the passion, the storytelling, the darkness both physical and psychological that is very similar to the feeling evoked from the darkspawn and deep roads from Origins. Seeing that, and knowing who it comes from, just gives me this sad defeated feeling of - this is what dragon age could, no, actually what SHOULD be. Instead we are getting Veilguard.... In case you want to weep thinking of what could have been, and get hyped for something in the future: Gives me Dead Space + Mass Effect vibes. Color me intrigued...
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 17, 2024 16:10:38 GMT
I think he's a fake. Far as I know, the councel people who had access to alpha, only played Act 1. I'm not sure they let random folks play test the later acts. Also, did you notice how he maintained he was worried about being identified and then says he was sitting in a room with other play testers and that he was the only one he went "Yey! That's wonderful" when they were told they were testing Dragon Age. So, if that were true, I think it would be pretty obvious who he was. It is more likely that even if he was a play tester he only saw part of the game and then made up the rest. Also he thinks Neve is ugly?!
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Post by The Elder King on Oct 17, 2024 16:21:45 GMT
While it could be weird that Bioware made the members of the council try only Act 1, there was another playtester that leaked information on the game before and he didn't seem bound to Act 1.
What give me pause is the fact that when the council members tried the game, Act 1 wasn't complete and there were lots of placeholders and things missing...and outside of Elgarn'nan and Davrin's mentions, all the other things are either confirmed through the achievements, which came before this interview, or likely guesses. I mean, this isn't a justification for Bioware, and I do think it should be a point of criticism, but I expected that threads like Hawke/Warden's sacrifice, Morrigan's past and others things to not be mentioned in Veilguard because of the lack of import choices. I don't see how they could handle them without imports.
I'd be personally glad if the other Evanuris aren't dead because I didn't want them to be the Old Gods, even if a connection between is possibly likely. I'm not going to like if the end of Veilguard anticipates the others' arrival or possible threat, like ME2 with ME3, but we'll have to wait and see, I guess.
DA has never been big on epilogues varying different through a combination of multiple choices, so I don't really mind if there's a different epilogue depending on your choice in regards of Solas. Dealing with him in a different way should be something that players have control of.
I honestly don't care about the romances, even if my personal approach would've been a 2/2/2 separation, but I'm sure it's going to be a hot topic in the future. It is another things that seems weird, honestly, in the sense of the playtester having access to it last year, but people more versed in how playtesting works could probably have a clearer opinion then mine on the matter.
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Post by LawBringerSR2 on Oct 17, 2024 16:46:34 GMT
I think he's a fake. Far as I know, the councel people who had access to alpha, only played Act 1. I'm not sure they let random folks play test the later acts. Also, did you notice how he maintained he was worried about being identified and then says he was sitting in a room with other play testers and that he was the only one he went "Yey! That's wonderful" when they were told they were testing Dragon Age. So, if that were true, I think it would be pretty obvious who he was. It is more likely that even if he was a play tester he only saw part of the game and then made up the rest. Also he thinks Neve is ugly?! I wouldn't say Neve is Miranda Lawson or Yennefer, but "very ugly"? She and Harding are the only romances I'd be interested in pursuing in this game
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Post by fistoffiori on Oct 17, 2024 16:53:34 GMT
Not that I'm putting much credence into the apparently leak but what does he mean by "Solas is sidelined for the entire game in the Fade" - I'm not watching the vid so was wondering the context, since we know we see Solas throughout the game? Talks to Rook, and we see his memories etc.
Sidelined as in no combat/fighting of him until the end?
EDIT: Oh, and I guess the list posted here isn't exhaustive, but he said nothing about the Minrathous/Treviso choice? Which is a massive in game thing?
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Post by rekkampum on Oct 17, 2024 16:58:11 GMT
I think he's a fake. Far as I know, the councel people who had access to alpha, only played Act 1. I'm not sure they let random folks play test the later acts. Also, did you notice how he maintained he was worried about being identified and then says he was sitting in a room with other play testers and that he was the only one he went "Yey! That's wonderful" when they were told they were testing Dragon Age. So, if that were true, I think it would be pretty obvious who he was. It is more likely that even if he was a play tester he only saw part of the game and then made up the rest. Also he thinks Neve is ugly?! Yeah def calling this person's insider status into question.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 17, 2024 17:30:23 GMT
It is another things that seems weird, honestly, in the sense of the playtester having access to it last year, but people more versed in how playtesting works could probably have a clearer opinion then mine on the matter. Why is that weird to you? Too early? I work in localization so that's different and doesn't really translate well but we do work on unfinished games and finish months before release. If it's a big game then starting as early as a year before release can happen. I would imagine a playtester who's job is finding all kinds of bugs would get hired before localization. And probably still log bugs when localization is finished. The games are often not bug free when we finish with the text side of things. So that part isn't weird to me. As has been pointed out above, the way he talked I would think it's not too difficult to figure out by BioWare who the leaker is. He even gave a time frame for his employment, right? Either he's stupid or it's all bullshit. If he's for real I hope a possible lawsuit was worth talking about things that are mostly known by now, I think? I won't be looking into big story spoilers before release. I want to be surprised by how bad the game might be, lol. It might be the only entertaining thing about it.
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