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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 16, 2020 18:09:33 GMT
A dwarf. 3 games with no dwarven romance. It's so freaking odd. There are some of us who enjoy a grouchy, sarcastic git, you know? Don't you mean: "it's so freaking SHORT"?..... 😆 Now now, this is a PC forum. We don't mention that.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 16, 2020 18:12:15 GMT
Don't you mean: "it's so freaking SHORT"?..... 😆 Now now, this is a PC forum. We don't mention that. Well I'm on my mobile, so..... 😛 #joking
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Post by Noxluxe on Sept 16, 2020 18:15:47 GMT
I have to admit I share some of your misgivings and not simply because of Andromeda, which in fact I've never played because my PC wasn't good enough to run it. I think back further to ME1 and our confrontation with Sovereign. Wasn't he just great. "I am beyond your comprehension. I am Sovereign.” "My kind transcends your very understanding. We are each a nation, independent, free of weakness. You cannot even grasp the nature of our existence.” Sounded good. I couldn't wait to find out what was behind that mistakenly arrogant machine that I destroyed at the end of game. Then we scroll forward to ME3 and apparently a race of giant squids asked an AI to develop a solution to the problem of organics developing AIs that will eventually kill them and it came up with the idea of having a load of AIs to kill off the organics just at the point where they were capable of inventing the AIs that would kill them and started off the process by killing the majority of the giant squids that had programmed it in the first place. Once you had got your mind around that convoluted and illogical explanation for the existence of the Reapers apparently I really shouldn't take the option of pulling the plug on the whole sorry business because the AI tells me it will just happen all over again. However, if you just take the nice central green path we can all be just the same as one another in synthetic/organic harmony. Whoopie! Yep, it turned out Sovereign was wrong all along. It was quite easy to understand once you got down to the nitty gritty. It made no sense whatsoever but that wasn't because my puny mind was incapable of understanding it. Now Solas reminds me a bit of Sovereign. He burbles on a lot about why he is going to do what he is and how he really has no choice, which sounds a lot like the reasons he gave for his last big mistake but nevertheless thinks he is entitled to act the way he does by reason of his superiority of being. However, unlike Sovereign he claims that he won't tell us more because we might understand too well. If we are doomed anyway, at least come out and say it. Then may be we can come up with our own solution. I just hope that when we catch up with him for our next controlled question and answer session, his explanation isn't going to be as daft as the Hologram kid's was. I feel the exact opposite. ME1's ending falls pretty flat compared to 3's in my opinion. The Reapers scare me way more as a collective A.I. developed for a completely different purpose that ran away from its arrogant creators and now has the galaxy in a chokehold seemingly forever than they did as 'evil sentient machine god monsters who want to do bad'. And in my estimation the 'nice central green path' has an even or better chance of wiping out true organic sentience in and of itself. A way worse outcome for the galaxy than the Reapers simply going on as they've been for millions of years. And I currently program (comparatively simple) robots for a living. The idea of one someday deciding that killing its creator race is the logical response to vague and ill-thought-out input due to core programming too complex for the interfacer to perfectly predict sounds far from implausible in my ears. Nope. I've got no complaints about the metaplot of the Mass Effect trilogy. Andromeda just completely failed to live up to it, even though it wasn't otherwise a terrible game. Which, combined with the overall lackluster writing in Inquisition, leads me to simply doubt the balls and gumption of Bioware's writing staff post-ME3. Not because I think Solas' isn't a promising storyline at this juncture, but because it seems too promising for what Bioware has otherwise been cranking out the last eight years. And yup, it'd be nice if the villains were capable of giving specific and concrete answers to questions about their plans instead of vague allusions that might mean anything if you think about them for more than half a second, upon which we're then supposed to base monumental decisions.
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Post by SofaJockey on Sept 16, 2020 18:17:10 GMT
i`m just crossing my fingers for our first dwarf romance. I haven't given up on Lace Harding, yet...
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 18:29:38 GMT
i`m just crossing my fingers for our first dwarf romance. I haven't given up on Lace Harding, yet... One can dream...
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Post by Noxluxe on Sept 16, 2020 18:30:26 GMT
A dwarf. 3 games with no dwarven romance. It's so freaking odd. There are some of us who enjoy a grouchy, sarcastic git, you know? Or who enjoy playing grouchy, sarcastic gits, and don't fancy women two feet taller than ourselves. Or who plain just like generous curves on short frames. I kind of hope they'll do the same as in Andromeda, and make a bunch of something resembling full romances and spread them out to NPCs beyond just the protagonist's inner circle and home base, allowing for more variation. And maybe less pressure to turn each one into an epic love story.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 16, 2020 18:32:32 GMT
Now now, this is a PC forum. We don't mention that. Well I'm on my mobile, so..... 😛 #joking
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 16, 2020 18:33:17 GMT
A dwarf. 3 games with no dwarven romance. It's so freaking odd. There are some of us who enjoy a grouchy, sarcastic git, you know? Or who enjoy playing grouchy, sarcastic gits, and don't fancy women two feet taller than ourselves. Or who plain just like generous curves on short frames. I kind of hope they'll do the same as in Andromeda, and make a bunch of something resembling full romances and spread them out to NPCs beyond just the protagonist's inner circle and home base, allowing for more variation. And maybe less pressure to turn each one into an epic love story. That's been bugging me since DAO: how come you could not have romances outside of your party?
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Post by mousestalker on Sept 16, 2020 18:34:15 GMT
Sooooo what kind of romances are you all expecting? Will we actually have marriages like in DAI? A dwarf. 3 games with no dwarven romance. It's so freaking odd. There are some of us who enjoy a grouchy, sarcastic git, you know?
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Post by Noxluxe on Sept 16, 2020 18:42:08 GMT
That's been bugging me since DAO: how come you could not have romances outside of your party? I don't mind it in DAO. You're in an insane hurry running circles around a whole country on foot in that game. Obviously you end up spending way more time with your companions than with any local you may run into. There may be time for a quick flirt or a one-night-stand here or there, but you're not really in a position to stop for weeks and court someone in any serious way. The other games don't have that excuse. All of them either feature the protagonist occasionally spending months or more in the same places, or instantaneous travel all over the galaxy plus access to long-range communication. Although the Mass Effect trilogy has the added excuses of each game individually not spanning a very long time, and the protagonist also being constantly on-duty and not having an enormous amount of leisure time. DA2 and Inquisition are definitely weird for not having it though.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 16, 2020 18:48:59 GMT
That's been bugging me since DAO: how come you could not have romances outside of your party? I don't mind it in DAO. You're in an insane hurry running circles around a whole country on foot in that game. Obviously you end up spending way more time with your companions than with any local you may run into. There may be time for a quick flirt or a one-night-stand here or there, but you're not really in a position to stop for weeks and court someone in any serious way. The other games don't have that excuse. All of them either feature the protagonist occasionally spending months or more in the same places, or instantaneous travel all over the galaxy plus access to long-range communication. Although the Mass Effect trilogy has the added excuses of each game individually not spanning a very long time, and the protagonist also not having an enormous amount of free time. DA2 and Inquisition are definitely weird for not having it though. I didn't mind it, hell I did do a few of those one night stands in a few of my playthoughs. There was a few that I wanted to see evolve beyond that, like the elf maid in the human noble starting arc.
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Post by Noxluxe on Sept 16, 2020 18:57:38 GMT
I didn't mind it, hell I did do a few of those one night stands in a few of my playthoughs. There was a few that I wanted to see evolve beyond that, like the elf maid in the human noble starting arc. Yeah... Uh... her inability to travel with you and join your party probably isn't the biggest obstacle to that relationship. On the bright side, assuming you didn't actually sleep with her... and she was quick and smart enough to evade Howe's soldiers... and she made it safely home to the Denerim Alienage and her daughter... and she miraculously survived for all these years after having been sold into slavery by Arl Howe... you might just be lucky enough to see her again as a middle-aged Tevinter blood thrall!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Sept 16, 2020 19:00:00 GMT
That's been bugging me since DAO: how come you could not have romances outside of your party? I don't mind it in DAO. You're in an insane hurry running circles around a whole country on foot in that game. Obviously you end up spending way more time with your companions than with any local you may run into. There may be time for a quick flirt or a one-night-stand here or there, but you're not really in a position to stop for weeks and court someone in any serious way. The other games don't have that excuse. All of them either feature the protagonist occasionally spending months or more in the same places, or instantaneous travel all over the galaxy plus access to long-range communication. Although the Mass Effect trilogy has the added excuses of each game individually not spanning a very long time, and the protagonist also being constantly on-duty and not having an enormous amount of leisure time. DA2 and Inquisition are definitely weird for not having it though. I would've liked if we were able to go back to the relationships we might've formed at the beginning of our Origin stories. For example if a male city elf wanted to continue on with his arranged marriage at the end, or a female dwarf noble with Gorim, maybe not kill off Tamlen. They wouldn't have really been a romance option but it would've been nice for those who wanted to RP someone waiting for you once everything was sorted out.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 16, 2020 19:00:53 GMT
I didn't mind it, hell I did do a few of those one night stands in a few of my playthoughs. There was a few that I wanted to see evolve beyond that, like the elf maid in the human noble starting arc. Yeah... Uh... her inability to travel with you and join your party probably isn't the biggest obstacle to that relationship. On the bright side, assuming you didn't actually sleep with her... and she was quick and smart enough to evade Howe's soldiers... and she made it safely home to the Denerim Alienage and her daughter... and she miraculously survived for all these years after having been sold into slavery by Arl Howe... you might just be lucky enough to see her again as a middle-aged Tevinter blood thrall! Well, least I would get to chop up some blood mages! 😉 *RIP AND TEAR MUSIC INTENSIFIES*
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 16, 2020 19:02:41 GMT
I don't mind it in DAO. You're in an insane hurry running circles around a whole country on foot in that game. Obviously you end up spending way more time with your companions than with any local you may run into. There may be time for a quick flirt or a one-night-stand here or there, but you're not really in a position to stop for weeks and court someone in any serious way. The other games don't have that excuse. All of them either feature the protagonist occasionally spending months or more in the same places, or instantaneous travel all over the galaxy plus access to long-range communication. Although the Mass Effect trilogy has the added excuses of each game individually not spanning a very long time, and the protagonist also being constantly on-duty and not having an enormous amount of leisure time. DA2 and Inquisition are definitely weird for not having it though. I would've liked if we were able to go back to the relationships we might've formed at the beginning of our Origin stories. For example if a male city elf wanted to continue on with his arranged marriage at the end, or a female dwarf noble with Gorim, maybe not kill off Tamlen. They wouldn't have really been a romance option but it would've been nice for those who wanted to RP someone waiting for you once everything was sorted out. I do like RP'ing my characters...
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Post by biggydx on Sept 16, 2020 19:06:53 GMT
Yeah... Uh... her inability to travel with you and join your party probably isn't the biggest obstacle to that relationship. On the bright side, assuming you didn't actually sleep with her... and she was quick and smart enough to evade Howe's soldiers... and she made it safely home to the Denerim Alienage and her daughter... and she miraculously survived for all these years after having been sold into slavery by Arl Howe... you might just be lucky enough to see her again as a middle-aged Tevinter blood thrall! Well, least I would get to chop up some blood mages! 😉 *RIP AND TEAR MUSIC INTENSIFIES* I still get chills whenever I hear the Title drop for that game.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 16, 2020 19:08:53 GMT
Well, least I would get to chop up some blood mages! 😉 *RIP AND TEAR MUSIC INTENSIFIES* I still get chills whenever I hear the Title drop for that game. The first one or the second one? Or both?
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Post by Noxluxe on Sept 16, 2020 19:16:51 GMT
I would've liked if we were able to go back to the relationships we might've formed at the beginning of our Origin stories. For example if a male city elf wanted to continue on with his arranged marriage at the end, or a female dwarf noble with Gorim, maybe not kill off Tamlen. They wouldn't have really been a romance option but it would've been nice for those who wanted to RP someone waiting for you once everything was sorted out. Agreed, that would have been really sweet. I personally think it would have undermined the theme of having given the rest of your life to combat this massive evil though, which after all isn't quite sorted out by the end. A big part of the RP in origins to me is that you can't go home again. Whatever life you thought you had in store is gone, either due to the circumstances of your recruitment or due to the attempt marking you as a traitor and deserter in the eyes of the people who view GWs as heroes. One of the reasons my characters seriously resent Alistair running off is that by then they've accepted that their lives now belong to the Grey Wardens and their mission, even if they lost way more in the bargain than he did. Even if they once had a community that meant something to them, and hopes and dreams beyond just living and dying as a warrior. And then he stomps all over that loss and sacrifice just because he isn't getting his way. *feels like emptying the fridge of cheese straight into the trash just thinking about it*
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Post by DragonRacer on Sept 16, 2020 19:41:56 GMT
Sooooo what kind of romances are you all expecting? Will we actually have marriages like in DAI? A dwarf. 3 games with no dwarven romance. It's so freaking odd. There are some of us who enjoy a grouchy, sarcastic git, you know? Precisely. I married one IRL, after all. (Well, he's not actually a dwarf, but he is about 3-4 inches shorter than me and has all the other above features, so... ) And honestly, as much as folks have pined for years over Varric and Scout Harding, this really has a feel of This Time, For Sure. C'mon, BioWare!
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Sept 16, 2020 19:45:03 GMT
A dwarf. 3 games with no dwarven romance. It's so freaking odd. There are some of us who enjoy a grouchy, sarcastic git, you know? Precisely. I married one IRL, after all. (Well, he's not actually a dwarf, but he is about 3-4 inches shorter than me and has all the other above features, so... ) And honestly, as much as folks have pined for years over Varric and Scout Harding, this really has a feel of This Time, For Sure. C'mon, BioWare! Hah, I found my own here on the forum. He's quite a tall dwarf tho. I would rather have Varric or Harding, but I'll take a new one. Ofc sod's law dictates that a new dwarf romance will be someone I don't like
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Sept 16, 2020 19:45:40 GMT
Sooooo what kind of romances are you all expecting? Female Qunari romance. The exotic, tall, athletic and stoic type. Its time.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Sept 16, 2020 19:47:35 GMT
Sooooo what kind of romances are you all expecting? Female Qunari romance. The exotic, tall, athletic and stoic type. Its time. Amazon style?
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on Sept 16, 2020 19:51:08 GMT
Female Qunari romance. The exotic, tall, athletic and stoic type. Its time. Amazon style? Yes, kind of, but not overdone or too stereotypical, that can quickly become a total turnoff. Like with Cassandra, if the ''stoic and tough women'' shtick was the only side of her personality she would have become annoying oh so quickly, fortunately she had believable layers and depth to her personality, which made her likable and attractive. Its a thin line to walk, I hope the developers get that right and don't rely on extremes too much.
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