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Post by ClarkKent on Sept 3, 2020 19:56:38 GMT
He would certainly work as a 'pro-Tevinter' voice amongst the companions.
I'm not sure what fuckery can happen to him in DA2 though.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 3, 2020 19:57:49 GMT
Couldn't you kill him in DA2? I don't think so, even if you let him be possessed. If you kill him in the Fade it simply makes him tranquil and that can now be reversed.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 3, 2020 20:03:35 GMT
My vote for the skeleton is The Undead Bubblehead. But I guess that's a little long We could shorten it to TUB. So we can get TUB in a tub?
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 3, 2020 20:04:21 GMT
I'm not sure what fuckery can happen to him in DA2 though. He can end up in Tevinter, made tranquil or possessed and that is the last you see of him. I've checked. Whilst you meet people he has controlled with his magic and they now refer to him as the Dreamstalker, you don't see him again. So technically the Dreamstalker could have headed for Tevinter as well. By Act 3 he was in command of his magic enough that he could save a girl from rape on the Storm Coast by making her assailants attack one another, even though he was in Tevinter. So after three years he was doing what Mihris says in Masked Empire that the Dreamers of old could do. After 10 years training who knows?
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 4, 2020 8:27:20 GMT
Another slightly far fetched but not impossible theory. Could the elf in this picture be Felassan? Compare it with the artwork depicting him in the colouring book. I know what you are thinking, the elf in the top picture doesn't have vallaslin. Well his forehead isn't that visible but then again if Solas can remove vallaslin, why couldn't Felassan? The elf in the picture looks to be using a staff as a weapon, so it could be a mage. Although PW said we should assume Felassan is dead, because presumably a Dreamer killing another Dreamer in the Fade renders them dead rather than tranquil, he didn't rule out the possibility that the latter was what resulted. In that case, what if Solas didn't even realise that was a possibility until he joined the Inquisition and chatted with Cassandra, by which time Felassan was long gone from the location where they met in the Fade. Cole's remarks were made because he had read the regret in Solas' mind and if Felassan had been tranquil then Cole wouldn't be able to locate him, so would assume he was still dead. In this scenario, he wandered for a while until he ran into another Dalish clan. They immediately looked upon him as a fellow Dalish in distress and assumed the vile humans had done this to him. They cared for him until, perhaps, they crossed the path of some runaway Circle mages and they told them what was wrong with him and how it could be reversed (because Wynne ensured that every Circle in Thedas knew this). So even if the Dalish were wary of performing the ritual to reverse it themselves, because they are reputed to be really wary of anything connected with spirits and demons, perhaps they even asked the Circle mages to do so in return for giving them shelter. Felassan is restored to his own mind and now he makes a conscious choice to renounce the Dread Wolf, taking a new name because he is no longer the Slow Arrow. He then effectively becomes a vital piece in the fight against Solas because he knows him and how his mind works, ancient elven lore and where the hideout might be. He is also a Dreamer and knows how to avoid his attention (he made a deliberate decision not to do this and face the music before). It is probably because I'd really like a Dreamer in our party in one form or another, who is opposed to Solas, that had me thinking about two different, possibly tranquil, Dreamers that might fit the roster. So Feynriel or Felassan, either would do for me but Felassan, who may have some unique elven magic and is a defector from the Solas camp would be interesting.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 4, 2020 10:14:13 GMT
I have to admit that after romancing a string of either bad boys made good by my PC, or good guys who turn out to be not quite the good guys I took them for, I'd really like to have a shot a genuine hero. I don't mean Alistair, Cullen or Sebastian because they don't fit the remit with me. There is something with each of them where their behaviour at some point doesn't match the hero persona.
May be it will be Davrin. He sounds like a genuine hero from the VA clip and then there is that concept art of a Warden protecting a woman and her baby from dragon fire that makes me think that is Davrin too. He doesn't even have to be a romance if he can be my stalwart friend but easy on the eye please. Still, whatever the case, Davrin or not, I will leave Bonnie Tyler to make my case for me. Actually some of the lyrics in the third verse seem particularly applicable.
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Post by phoray on Sept 4, 2020 14:20:43 GMT
I keep reading Lord of Fortune and I have no idea what it means...I'm gonna have to read Tevinter Nights /sigh Lord of Fortune – Race: Any, Gender: Any. Adventurers and treasure hunters who take on jobs for a price. Examples might be to break into an ancient tomb and liberate its treasure from the traps and creatures. A lucrative bounty to hunt down a dangerous creature menacing a town. A contract to steal a magic item from a public event. Or payed to bodyguard and guide a client through dangerous locations. They're based out of Rivain but there's no apparent barriers to foreigners joining, since one was invited to in the book. We're Geralt of Rivia, just not an immortal Witcher hybrid species. 😁
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 16:52:53 GMT
A Lord of Fortune is a great PC background. It allows any race/gender/class combination to work without any issues. It's a little generic (plucky mercenary hired for a "simple job" turns into a hero), but it's standard fantasy set up for a hero's journey story. And with the emphasis on them in Tevinter Nights, it feels purposeful. A way to establish a little lore before introducing it into the game.
On a related note, if and when we have a game set in Rivain, Antiva, & the rest of the Marches, I am confident that we'll have a Raider of the Waking Sea background. Another background that is easily worked into any story.
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Post by vertigomez on Sept 4, 2020 17:03:11 GMT
A Lord of Fortune is a great PC background. It allows any race/gender/class combination to work without any issues. It's a little generic (plucky mercenary hired for a "simple job" turns into a hero), but it's standard fantasy set up for a hero's journey story. And with the emphasis on them in Tevinter Nights, it feels purposeful. A way to establish a little lore before introducing it into the game. On a related note, if and when we have a game set in Rivain, Antiva, & the rest of the Marches, I am confident that we'll have a Raider of the Waking Sea background. Another background that is easily worked into any story. The only disappointing part to me, then, is that it sort of falls into the same thing as Adaar/Cadash, where Adaar is literally the first and only Vashoth we ever 'meet' in-person, and their whole identity is "merc" - you get more background on the Valo-Kas than you do your parents, or what it was like growing up eight feel tall with horns and/or magic. Cadash runs into something similar (but less so, since we had Brosca in Origins). So I worry about what this would mean for qunari and dwarf PCs, since the north is SO RICH in dwarf and qunari lore (Kal-Sharok! Tevinter's Ambassadoria! Qunari/Rivaini blended culture, settlements?? of Tal-Vashoth, Qun-following Qunari... I still like the idea of a Lord of Fortune background, but my hope is that it's not reeeally a background and more that, I dunno, a Lord/Lady rescues the PC from some horrible situation and we join up 'cause why not? But we still get the depth of a more integrated background.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2020 18:13:31 GMT
A Lord of Fortune is a great PC background. It allows any race/gender/class combination to work without any issues. It's a little generic (plucky mercenary hired for a "simple job" turns into a hero), but it's standard fantasy set up for a hero's journey story. And with the emphasis on them in Tevinter Nights, it feels purposeful. A way to establish a little lore before introducing it into the game. On a related note, if and when we have a game set in Rivain, Antiva, & the rest of the Marches, I am confident that we'll have a Raider of the Waking Sea background. Another background that is easily worked into any story. The only disappointing part to me, then, is that it sort of falls into the same thing as Adaar/Cadash, where Adaar is literally the first and only Vashoth we ever 'meet' in-person, and their whole identity is "merc" - you get more background on the Valo-Kas than you do your parents, or what it was like growing up eight feel tall with horns and/or magic. Cadash runs into something similar (but less so, since we had Brosca in Origins). So I worry about what this would mean for qunari and dwarf PCs, since the north is SO RICH in dwarf and qunari lore (Kal-Sharok! Tevinter's Ambassadoria! Qunari/Rivaini blended culture, settlements?? of Tal-Vashoth, Qun-following Qunari... I still like the idea of a Lord of Fortune background, but my hope is that it's not reeeally a background and more that, I dunno, a Lord/Lady rescues the PC from some horrible situation and we join up 'cause why not? But we still get the depth of a more integrated background. That's also my concern if the 8 hero pic really does represent the party members. Maybe the gun lady is the crossbow wielding dwarf from the concept art. If she is, though, she looks an awful lot like Harding. Who (don't get me wrong, I'm excited for but) doesn't bring any new dwarf lore with her. I really really want a Kal-Sharok dwarf as a party member. And I also hope that our exposure to the Ambassadoria is more than just a quest or two. I feel confident that we'll get tons of new qunari lore (I'm already bracing for all of the pearl-clutching about "retcons"), but as a proud and true dwarf stan, I'm feeling a little nervous for them right now. Very very little dwarf concept art from a place where it should be rich and abundant.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 4, 2020 19:55:11 GMT
On a related note, if and when we have a game set in Rivain, Antiva, & the rest of the Marches, I am confident that we'll have a Raider of the Waking Sea background. Another background that is easily worked into any story. Well at least that has been around since the beginning of the series. I do find it curious that they decided to invent a new background that people can have when there are numerous other ones in the Core Rule Book that are as yet unexplored. Suddenly out of nowhere we discover there is an organisation in Rivain known as the Lords of Fortune. Funny they never featured anywhere before, especially in the writings of Genitivi. So may be they were invented as a convenient background to cover all races, classes and genders of PC. If the story starts off in Antiva City, which many people seem to have identified in the concept art, being a Lord of Fortune would explain your presence there, or anywhere else for that matter.
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Post by naughtynomad on Sept 15, 2020 11:44:33 GMT
There seems to be a noticable lack of dwarf love... both male and female. There's no way we wouldn't have a dwarf companion... right?
I'm actually of the opinion the gunner girl is a dwarf despite her looking pretty tall there. Could she be a new incarnation of our lovely Lace Harding?
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 15, 2020 12:45:30 GMT
For the character right of center, I'm going with Executor. She appears to be shrouded, which we know from TN is their style, and the very unique weapon suggests they are 'not from around here." Also, we know they are involved in the hunt for the Dread Wolf, and Solas is wary of them, to say the least. It makes sense to have one around.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 15, 2020 18:04:43 GMT
There's no way we wouldn't have a dwarf companion... right? Which is why both the 8 person and 4 person line ups can't be the final version and it might be better to look at the concept of what they are as a class rather than their race, because in the 8 person line up they are predominately human. Even if the PC was going to be restricted to just one race, it would be unthinkable that they didn't have every race represented in the companions. There is a good chance that this time round we will be getting a female dwarf companion, whether that is Lace Harding or not.
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Post by vertigomez on Sept 17, 2020 21:49:36 GMT
Is it just me, or does the hornless qunari/tall human definitely look more qunari here? Like you can see horn nubs. Not to mention archer lady's loooong legs.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 18, 2020 11:54:17 GMT
This was the original sketch and he probably made the necessary adjustment for the final version but even here she is going to be considerably shorter than the man in front of her when he stands up. The Lace Harding thread has also drawn attention to the scar on her left cheek that doesn't appear in the final version because her head is directed the other way. Of course, that could suggest that whilst this was originally depicting Lace, the later version could be a different dwarf lady, which is why he turned her head the other way, or may be he realised it would be too much of a give away to show the scar, so to keep fans guessing he turned her head.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 18, 2020 11:57:12 GMT
Is it just me, or does the hornless qunari/tall human definitely look more qunari here? Again, may be they were playing around with ideas as to whether to have another male qunari or not. What do you suppose that item is tucked into his belt in the sketch? I don't think that made the final version either.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 24, 2020 16:14:06 GMT
Yeah, I’ve been a little baffled by the folks saying there’s no dwarves in the lineup. To me, crossbow/gun/hand-cannon + short figure = a dwarf for sure. Companion is Bianca.....holding crossbow Bianca No please not. I don't like her at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2020 18:06:34 GMT
We could shorten it to TUB. So we can get TUB in a tub? Welp, at least it wouldn't have to worry about getting wrinkled skin.
*OBTW, Sasha gives all her approves for your play on words*
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 24, 2020 18:20:00 GMT
First I want to thank. @daveliam for creating this thread. @bioware for this clip or teaser. and the whole community. So let us begin. This is a concept art for the companions i belive. I would be surprised if we go fewer than 9. I go from left to right and count them. 1) She is a women with a nice dress. I think she is a noble women. I don't see any weapon so it isn't clear which class she is. As mage she could be a tevinter noble, as warrior or rogue she could be antiva noble. (Some said she is Francesca Invidus, but i don't think that. Bellara is an option. I don't know) I like her she is sexy but not cheap. She could be a good romance option. (I would play a male protagonist in the first round for the first time, when we got her.)It can be but i am not sure. Maybe she is this person: I call her ravenwomen, because she reminds me of catwoman. At day she is a slave to her status and in the night she help the innocent. With a good backstory she can sell the game. Typ: royal + robin hood. 2) A qunari woman. I don't see any weapon. she have wavy hair and long horns. A romance option. And i don't see her in any other concept art (There are two qunari woman i think.) I am not a fan of the horns, but I am happy for those who wished for her. Typ: strong woman 3) I can't connect with this character. I don't care about him. He could be darvin, but i have a better option. 4) He/she is interesting. I only can tell He/she is human, but nothing more. 5) Where should i start. She reminds me of Quasimodo. I don't know what she have on her back, but for me it looks like a humpback. Where she drop her weapon. Mix with lara croft. The weapon looks like a gun. She have something to cover her eyes. A mask i believe. I am interested in her story. 6) A mysterious man. I love mysterious man. He has a sword so warrior is his class, i belive. Romance option please. (Maybe Executors. Hiding a fish skin under his cloak. ) 7) No qunari please. with white or silver hair would be wonderful. A person like Dedue from fire emblem three houses. Than you captured me. So many good romance option. (O:1/I:2/ and now 3 ) 8) A skeleton. As companion maybe, but i would like it more only as part of the story. Mortalitasi are quite interesting. than one drwaf as romance option. Companions finish. Now advisors: This are our new advisors as concept art. I go from left to right and count them. 1) I would say the man from Tevinter. Who is connected with Dorian. 2) The male elf from the warden. This is Darvin for me now. Till bioware say something else. I hope the warden be strong this time and not a crying group of babies. 3) The crow and with them the heists. 4) qunari advisor. Maybe the connection to stan if he got his sword back. this are my thoughts.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 24, 2020 18:37:41 GMT
I'm wondering if the elf in the action shot and the man in your avatar are supposed to be the same character, just reimagined as human/elven. Maybe Davrin? This is what I think PW was getting at with his comments. They started off with that concept picture of 8 characters, where to be honest they strike me as mostly human, apart from the obviously Qunari lady on the left hand side and glowing head on the right. Then they started to adjust them by race or class. So the human roguish type character in the 8 person line up could well be the elf character in the 4 person one. I don't think so. The one in the 4 character is a warden and the other is something else.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 24, 2020 18:45:38 GMT
It’s shy I’m so certain that the Qunari lady and the Veilfire Face are both in. I agree that I think those two are a given. It is the others where things may be a bit more fluid. Ideally they would have 2 of each race and Skellington, making 9 in all, the same as DAI but it is possible the line up is less than that. If the promo shot includes the PC (place holder shot) then that would make 2 of each class, warrior/rogue/mage and Skellington (possibly with own unique spec). That would mean there may only be one of certain races and more of another, probably human but possibly 2 humans, 2 dwarves, 1 elf and 1 qunari. In the last games we have as companions. only 1 qunari and not more than 2 elves and 1 dwarf, that make 4 with 4 human an 1 skeleton we have a group of 9.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 24, 2020 19:03:19 GMT
Honestly, I’d really love it if we didn’t get a returning companion this time around. I know it’s been tradition with Oghren, then Andrea, then Varric. But I am ready for a new roster of characters. And they’ve created so many interesting characters between the novels and comics that it would be a shame if some of them didn’t show up. Let’s face it, the reason why we get a returning character is to be a bridge for more casual players. It’s why I’m hoping that Harding can play that role. She wasn’t technically a companion but she was prominent enough that if she showed up in a big role, most DA:I players would say, ‘Oh yeah, I remember that dwarf lady from literally every single introductory cutscene from new areas!’ She’d full the purpose of the returning chars after while still giving us a new plot and backstory to dig into! Harding is in my opinion the best and for Bioware easiest to write connection character between DAI and DA 4. First Bioware doesn´t like to reuse former romances so Blackwall, Cassandra, Cullen, Dorian, Iron Bull, Josephine,
Leliana, Sera und also Solas are out.
Vivienne could be Divine and it´s highly unlikely that use Varric a third time in a row. The only remaining option that they have is Cole but i doubt that they bring him back.
Cole is difficult to write and he has two different fates.
So only Harding stays and unlike someone like Charter Harding was prominent enough to remember.
I would prefer Charter over Harding and a new dwarfen romance character (but i like varric very much, but i get over the fact that he won't come back.)
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 24, 2020 19:10:47 GMT
To be fair, he is kinda sleazy and untrustworthy. It is just that there quite some companions who are even lest trustworthy than he is - actually anyone but Aveline and Merrill, but the latter depends on how biased Hawke is regarding the whole blood magic thing. As for me, he harps a bit too much about faith/supernatural hope in DAI and while I prefer him in DA2, the one time I sided with Meredith soured me on him quite a bit. Fair enough. After all Aveline and Merrill are the only DA2 companions I actually like. That said I'd argue Fenris is trustworthy, as in he is brutally honest about his views so you at least can trust him to act in certain ways. Same with Sebastian. But yeah Anders, Isabela, and Varric you can only trust them to not be trustworthy. I don't like any of them. They are all bad written. I like Varric because of DAI. I hope they don't take a leaf from DA2's book.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 25, 2020 12:59:33 GMT
You can also make the case for DAO Merrill, DAO Isabela and DA 2 Cassandra. Especially DAO Merrill was so bland in DAO that no one has thought that she will be a DA 2 companion. Of course Bioware will flesh out Harding more if she becomes a DA 4 companion and romance. Also in my opinion the DA 4 party needs someone from the Inquisition who represents them. So do you have any better ideas than Harding? I don´t. Unless they connect her to a Titan or something, they can't possibly make her interesting enough for me to want her in the game. I still say Dagna would be better. She's also a dwarf, already a part of the Inquistion, she explores more of the magical side of the series, and she could believably be involved in concocting something to help with taking down Solas. Harding is as dull as dishwater compared to her. I agree on harding, but i find Dagna annoying. So please a new dwarf companion as romance option.
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