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Post by regack on May 13, 2021 1:36:17 GMT
Since someone elsewhere used the “These are before the Day 1 patch” defense, can anyone tell me if patches can completely change character models? Probably, but I wouldn't get my hopes up about that. The patch is (I believe) supposed to be ~11GB, which is 10% of the install, I don't consider that to be an insignificant amount.
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Post by mtheillusive on May 13, 2021 1:38:29 GMT
Well...I see for some, the Mass Effect Legendary Edition isn't so...Legendary...anymore... Sorry couldn't help myself Couple of things from what I've seen in various vids: 1- Pics DO NOT do the game justice imo, seeing it in moving form is better. And even better when its high quality. 2- Never really was a Kelly Chambers fan...but what did was wrong. Despicable. Just borderline flat out evil. Shame on you Bioware 3- The thresher maw fights look AWESOME 4- I like all of Eden Prime visually BUT the reveal of Soverign. It like its going perfect...then you see that and it's like... sigh...... 5- The planet where you fight Elanos The Turian...LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6- Feros looks interesting. I don't like it more but I certainly don't like it worse. Has a more gritty feel to it though. 7- Some of the facial models look really good and yet somewhat...off...at the same time  Others look fantastic 8- Please let there be an armor glitch.....pleeeeeaaaaaasssssseeeeeeeeeeeee (hell patch the thing in there if ya have to!!!) 9- How often will certain ultra rare items drop or show up? (Krogan battlemaster/rage, savant X this and that, Phantom armor, etc) 10- I'm really really really curious to see how Mass Effect 2 feels. Sometimes I feel that ME2 mainly feels better than 1 because of the graphical difference. Will that be the same with the LE graphical update? Oh, and btw, for Xbox users: Last I checked, May 14th at 12AM. 12AM. TWELVE AM.
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Post by mtheillusive on May 13, 2021 1:40:39 GMT
Wait, it worked??? The Paragon glitch worked??? 
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Post by Arne Saknussemm on May 13, 2021 1:40:52 GMT
I don't consider that to be an insignificant amount. I wonder what they are patching? In the several hours I've been able to play, I've not experienced any bugs, glitches or crashes * (* except one solitary pop-up subtitle in one cutscene, when I don't have subtitles)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 1:42:07 GMT
Since someone elsewhere used the “These are before the Day 1 patch” defense, can anyone tell me if patches can completely change character models? I'd say technically, maybe? The problem with that defense is that Bioware didn't have any feeback on Kelly's new model when working on the patch, so I doubt they'd have done that. Probably, but I wouldn't get my hopes up about that. The patch is (I believe) supposed to be ~11GB, which is 10% of the install, I don't consider that to be an insignificant amount. Thank you. I was just curious if that kind of thing was possible. I have absolutely zero hope or faith they will (or in anything involving them at this point) but at least it’s possible so maybe one day it could happen. It won’t, but it could.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 13, 2021 1:43:30 GMT
Wait, it worked??? The Paragon glitch worked???  
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Post by Arne Saknussemm on May 13, 2021 1:45:44 GMT
Good to see BioWare back on form.
Bodes well for DA4 and ME5.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 13, 2021 1:48:52 GMT
Good to see BioWare back on form. Bodes well for DA4 and ME5. Hey wait a minute, what if that picture you showed was from the original ME1??? Sorry for my suspicions. The thought of it just popped in.
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Post by mtheillusive on May 13, 2021 1:50:13 GMT
Since someone elsewhere used the “These are before the Day 1 patch” defense, can anyone tell me if patches can completely change character models? Didn't they kind of do that with Andromeda? Might be possible
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Post by SirSourpuss on May 13, 2021 1:52:24 GMT
Since someone elsewhere used the “These are before the Day 1 patch” defense, can anyone tell me if patches can completely change character models? From what I read, it's bugs, fixes and performance optimization. At best, it adds some character customization options, but that's it. It's not changing models.
Even so, if the expectation is that "it only looks bad, because they haven't patched it", well, some people are in for a rude awakening.
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Post by Arne Saknussemm on May 13, 2021 1:53:22 GMT
Hey wait a minute, what if that picture you showed was from the original ME1??? Sorry for my suspicions. The thought of it just popped in. Full image from MELE. 
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Post by The Elder King on May 13, 2021 1:56:52 GMT
Since someone elsewhere used the “These are before the Day 1 patch” defense, can anyone tell me if patches can completely change character models? From what I read, it's bugs, fixes and performance optimization. At best, it adds some character customization options, but that's it. It's not changing models.
Even so, if the expectation is that "it only looks bad, because they haven't patched it", well, some people are in for a rude awakening.
From what I saw, most people saying some models are going to be fixed don’t believe the game looks bad overall. I doubt they decided to work on any face model for this patch, anyway. Do you really think there are some chances for added CC options? I doubt that.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 13, 2021 1:58:07 GMT
Hey wait a minute, what if that picture you showed was from the original ME1??? Sorry for my suspicions. The thought of it just popped in. Full image from MELE.  Okay. Thank God. Maybe they kept it as a little secret easter egg for new and old players. I am so ready for this. I even decorated my PS5 with an N7 sticker. 
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Post by The Elder King on May 13, 2021 2:02:56 GMT
Well, there are other ways to check if the Morality-enhancing glitches were all kept. Like the one at the start of ME2. BioWare usually leaves those kind of glitches in their games. All three DA game have a version of the same one to make more money by copying items.
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Post by masseffectfanforlife on May 13, 2021 2:07:24 GMT
Well, there are other ways to check if the Morality-enhancing glitches were all kept. Like the one at the start of ME2. BioWare usually leaves those kind of glitches in their games. All three DA game have a version of the same one to make more money by copying items. Though I'm still hoping for the one involving the armor in ME1. I hope that still works. I like to have my Shepard, if she is to be a Vanguard, in Heavy Armor. Also, I've noticed extra lines spoken by Shepard, whenever she throws a grenade, or uses medigel.
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Post by jrpN7 on May 13, 2021 3:07:09 GMT
I honestly think that was just a horrible picture of Kelly. The lighting is most likely off or darker making her hair look brunette rather than red.
All the aliens look fantastic, heaps more detail. Although, Liara's weird freckle line on her forehead before her tentacle things is really pronounced and I always found that odd as most other asari don't have that line. Meh.
Sheploo looks fantastic, though I will miss how we see him ageing a little over the course of the games. He looks the same in ME as he does in ME3 now, which isn't bad (since the ME3 model is fantastic) but seeing him look progressively more tired is incredibly appropriate.
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Post by The Elder King on May 13, 2021 3:14:21 GMT
I honestly think that was just a horrible picture of Kelly. The lighting is most likely off or darker making her hair look brunette rather than red. All the aliens look fantastic, heaps more detail. Although, Liara's weird freckle line on her forehead before her tentacle things is really pronounced and I always found that odd as most other asari don't have that line. Meh. Sheploo looks fantastic, though I will miss how we see him ageing a little over the course of the games. He looks the same in ME as he does in ME3 now, which isn't bad (since the ME3 model is fantastic) but seeing him look progressively more tired is incredibly appropriate. Well, given that in ME2 LE the model seems the same, he actually seems to de-age and age.
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Post by ruthlesskhan on May 13, 2021 3:41:49 GMT
I don't even care for Kelly Chambers...but I know people are going to be PISSED  And doesn't that defeat the entire purpose of changing her hairstyle to hide from Cerberus? Ugh. Really not liking her new look. But it's just one of those things I have to learn to live with. Like eating vegetables and exercise.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 3:46:34 GMT
I honestly think that was just a horrible picture of Kelly. The lighting is most likely off or darker making her hair look brunette rather than red. Maybe, but since that is where she always stands that’s how she’ll always look. Unless you mean something like taking the picture is what harmed the lighting, in which case I hope you’re right. Still won’t look nearly as good as a game over a decade old, but better than that at least.
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Post by jrpN7 on May 13, 2021 3:58:04 GMT
I honestly think that was just a horrible picture of Kelly. The lighting is most likely off or darker making her hair look brunette rather than red. Maybe, but since that is where she always stands that’s how she’ll always look. Unless you mean something like taking the picture is what harmed the lighting, in which case I hope you’re right. Still won’t look nearly as good as a game over a decade old, but better than that at least.  ME2 -> ME2 LE. ME3 for reference. I tried to brighten the LE image to try to counter the darkness... but I must say I do prefer the ME2 version much better... her hair seems much more healthy and vibrant. Her eyes carried over well at least. She still looks like lovely Kelly Chambers overall- still, I feel for you Hanako. I was pissed for a moment when it looked like Sheploo had massive eyeliner. Luckily he turned out great. Hate it when favorite characters are turned into abominations.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 4:04:01 GMT
Maybe, but since that is where she always stands that’s how she’ll always look. Unless you mean something like taking the picture is what harmed the lighting, in which case I hope you’re right. Still won’t look nearly as good as a game over a decade old, but better than that at least.  ME2 -> ME2 LE. ME3 for reference. I tried to brighten the LE image to try to counter the darkness... but I must say I do prefer the ME2 version much better... her hair seems much more healthy and vibrant. Her eyes carried over well at least. She still looks like lovely Kelly Chambers overall- still, I feel for you Hanako. I was pissed for a moment when it looked like Sheploo had massive eyeliner. Luckily he turned out great. Hate it when favorite characters are turned into abominations. Guess that confirms they really did turn her into a brunette for some stupid reason. And the eyes are a lot more dead than in old ME2. I mean yeah overall she looks okay, the problem is she just doesn’t look like Kelly. If this was Gabby (who looks a lot more similar to this redesign) then maybe it would fit. And it just bugs me extra how all the other ME2 characters remained pretty much untouched, meanwhile she doesn’t look like either previous version. Edit: found a video with her and it’s not just a bad picture. That’s how she looks, and is definitely no longer still red hair but brown(does that also mean no red hair for us either unless default femshep?)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 4:15:35 GMT
Also definitely see what people meant by ME1 Asari having too much eye shadow. Saw a picture of Councilor Tevos and her whole eye sockets are just black. Makes her look kind of a creepy, especially in contrast to the rest of her face with all her white markings.
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Post by The Elder King on May 13, 2021 4:25:07 GMT
Also definitely see what people meant by ME1 Asari having too much eye shadow. Saw a picture of Councilor Tevos and her whole eye sockets are just black. Makes her look kind of a creepy, especially in contrast to the rest of her face with all her white markings. Yep, she was one of the Asari that was changed. Given that there’s a few of them changed with this approach, including Liara, I wonder what’s the reason behind it. By the way, for all fearing that they might cut some questionable content, you can still punch Khalisah.
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Post by andydandymandy on May 13, 2021 4:52:54 GMT
People assumed or feared that because they changed that awkward and distracting ass shot of Miranda during a cut scene that meant that they were going to cut all "questionable" content from the game and make it PG?
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