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Post by dazk on Jun 5, 2021 1:57:49 GMT
I'm confused about Season 3 of The Expanse......Season 2 ends with the conclusion of this massive war, season three starts following those events.....But after Season 3 Ep. 5, starting Ep 6- Naomi is suddenly for some unknown reason gone back to the Belters, Mao has been shuffled (off-screen) to prison (when there really wasn't a resolution to the work with Dr. Strickland, at least not the way I understood things...maybe there was, I'm not sure)....But starting Episode 6 the whole dynamic of the show seemed to have changed. It almost felt like that huge change that comes when a show recasts and rewrites events in the off-season between Seasons.....and then you come back to watching the show and you're like "whoa, this is all different. They recast so and so, they changed this part of the story....Wait a minute! When did *this* happen???" Kinda like what's happened with Batwoman between Seasons 1 and 2 with the loss of Ruby Rose and the re-casting of the role. I actually liked Batwoman Season 1 and I thought Rose fit the role. I tried season 2 but it just felt way too different and things didn't make sense. Still sticking with THE EXPANSE though, it's still a great show. I guess I'll just have to play a mental game of catch-up and get used to the new dynamic... because they have even introduced a few new characters. Melba Koh (who has these weird superhuman qualities that she can turn on/off at random.....The good reverend/dr......But my favourite character, "Bad Ass Bobbie" has been somewhat sidelined It's been a while since I watched season 3, is it the one where the Belters are turning the Nauvoo into the Behemoth? If so Naomi asks Holden if she can help out with the refit of the Nauvoo she's not officially re joining the OPA. It doesn't make a lot of sense but they cut characters from the book and Naomi's character has the right skills to fill one of the cut characters roles as an engineer. Re Mao in the book Avarsarala has him arrested as she has evidence of his involvement with the project to make the hybrids among other things and and she personally gives him a fairly long talking to about what a naughty boy he has been and that Earth will be selling all his assets and taking the cash, thanks very much. Melba Koh has implants that "over clock" her body's adrenal glands and enhance her muscle strength. Who she is and her role in what is to come are explained later in the series. Bobbie gets more time later in the series.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 2:27:05 GMT
I'm confused about Season 3 of The Expanse......Season 2 ends with the conclusion of this massive war, season three starts following those events.....But after Season 3 Ep. 5, starting Ep 6 If I'm remembering correctly this is the part where they jump books in the series. I'd previously assumed it was one book per season but apparently they aren't adapting it that way. I haven't read the books, I just noticed a weird time/plotline jump and cast change around then and asked roughly the same question.
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Post by dazk on Jun 5, 2021 4:02:29 GMT
I'm confused about Season 3 of The Expanse......Season 2 ends with the conclusion of this massive war, season three starts following those events.....But after Season 3 Ep. 5, starting Ep 6 If I'm remembering correctly this is the part where they jump books in the series. I'd previously assumed it was one book per season but apparently they aren't adapting it that way. I haven't read the books, I just noticed a weird time/plotline jump and cast change around then and asked roughly the same question. Not so much jumped from doing one series per book they cut and changed plot and characters from the books and incorporated some stuff from book 4 IIRC because of the changes they made to book 3. Season 4 is one of my favourite books in the series but the shortening of plot lines dulls tension and the change of Naomi's role and the story arc that is cut really hurts S4. As I said I haven't watched or read the books for a while and my memory is not that great. AnDromedary do you have anything to add to the issues raised by Energizer Bunny 211 you have a much better memory than me for this stuff.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 5, 2021 13:06:12 GMT
Lucifer S5B was an utter almost unwatchable clusterfuck...
I already disliked the first half and when I saw the trailer for the new episodes I already knew I would hate the rest of the season. The trailer was so cringy. God on earth as a family comedy. Oh boy. Not my cup of tea...
Apparently most people loved S5, even critics wrote good things about it. I don't get it. The writing was SO BAD at times, like bad fanfiction. I was shocked at how clumsy the plotting was. And the dialogue, good grief. And some of the acting...
I like the IDEA of what they were trying to do with S5 and the ending is beautiful. It's just how the characters got there was utter nonsense. And worse, they retconned one of my favorite moments from S2 for a cheap plot twist.
The writers committed the same sin that all shows do when they run out of ideas: they have characters regress and run in circles. Happens to the best of them like Mad Men. But here it was just so eye rolling, I was horrified.
That said, Lucifer's journey as a character is one of the most beautiful redemption stories I've ever seen. It's on the nose cheesy like a children's fairytale. But I was never bothered by it.
What bothers me is stalling and running around in circles and not being able to write believable character and romance progression anymore. Everything was fine until the fantastic finale of S4. Then the show turned into super cringy teen humor fanservice and almost ruined it completely for me.
I don't understand how anybody who's older than 14 would consider S5 well written. The show has turned full daytime soap opera level of bad dialogue.
And I really wish there wasn't another season after THAT ending. It was a real ending. Just because Netflix greenlighted another season doesn't mean you should go for it.
Lucifer's storyarc is completed imo. I hated the journey this season but I like the destination at least.
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Post by rewindbutton on Jun 7, 2021 10:15:43 GMT
The writing was SO BAD at times Yup, S5 was all over the place. Lucifer's journey as a character is one of the most beautiful redemption stories I've ever seen. Totally agree, that was well done. I did enjoy the karaoke episode very much though.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 7, 2021 12:07:53 GMT
The writing was SO BAD at times Yup, S5 was all over the place. Lucifer's journey as a character is one of the most beautiful redemption stories I've ever seen. Totally agree, that was well done. I did enjoy the karaoke episode very much though. Oh, I actually liked the musical episode a lot too. Well, the first half of it. Didn't like the last few songs. But Another One Bites The Dust and Wicked Game were awesome!
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Post by rewindbutton on Jun 7, 2021 13:33:41 GMT
Oh, I actually liked the musical episode a lot too. Well, the first half of it. Didn't like the last few songs. But Another One Bites The Dust and Wicked Game were awesome! I liked the episode throughout, and thought it culminated nicely with this song:
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jun 7, 2021 14:00:11 GMT
Oh, I actually liked the musical episode a lot too. Well, the first half of it. Didn't like the last few songs. But Another One Bites The Dust and Wicked Game were awesome! I liked the episode throughout, and thought it culminated nicely with this song:
I found that one horrible, lol. Everybody seems to love it. Thought it was so cheesy and also didn't like God's singing.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 9, 2021 9:49:22 GMT
Finished What Happens To My Family
Story of a father who realised that his children were drifting apart due to their struggles with their jobs, etc and becoming more alienated and cold with the rest of the family. He decided it was time to stop the drift and drafted out a plan to pull everyone back together.
It's one of those rare early 2010s dramas where it runs to 53 eps while newer dramas of the last few years and present is mostly 16 eps.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 9, 2021 18:57:47 GMT
If I'm remembering correctly this is the part where they jump books in the series. I'd previously assumed it was one book per season but apparently they aren't adapting it that way. I haven't read the books, I just noticed a weird time/plotline jump and cast change around then and asked roughly the same question. Not so much jumped from doing one series per book they cut and changed plot and characters from the books and incorporated some stuff from book 4 IIRC because of the changes they made to book 3. Season 4 is one of my favourite books in the series but the shortening of plot lines dulls tension and the change of Naomi's role and the story arc that is cut really hurts S4. As I said I haven't watched or read the books for a while and my memory is not that great. AnDromedary do you have anything to add to the issues raised by Energizer Bunny 211 you have a much better memory than me for this stuff. IIRC, it goes more or less like this: Book 1 = season 1 and the first couple of episodes of season 2 (ends with Eros crashing into Venus) Book 2 = rest of season 2 and the first half of season 3 ends with the protomolecule leaving Venus and forming the ring) Book 3 = second half of season 3 Book 4 = season 4 Book 5 = season 5
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 10, 2021 2:07:25 GMT
Watching My Father Is Strange. I don't know what to say. I when a mother finds out her 38 years old son is living with his GF whom he plans to marry. She's angry, the father is angry and told the son to apologise. It's so weird. What if the son is unmarried, 50 years old and living with his GF he plans to marry? Do the parents still scold and beat?
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 10, 2021 15:30:51 GMT
Finished "Raised by Wolves" yesterady. Dam, that got weird. The first 6 or 7 episodes were really cool. Basically, humanity more or less destroyed Earth's environment in a war between a religious faction and the atheists. Interestingly the religious faction is technologically somewhat superior, they can build deadly androids and a huge ark spaceship, with which they are planning to bring a bunch of people to the exoplanet Kepler-22b to start over. Because of the size of the ship and because it's carrying living humans in cryogenic suspension, the trip lasts 13 years though. Meanwhile, the atheists send a smaller ship with just two androids and a bunch of human embryos, which can get there much faster. The two androids, just named Mother and Father are supposed to gestate the embryos and to raise and protect the kids on the new and unfamiliar planet. That's where the series starts. The first half of the season is a pretty interesting but somewhat familiar scifi scenario with a bit of a mystery component as strange things happen every now and so often on the planet. In the second half, that mystery/puzzle component pretty much takes over and by the last episode, it kinda drifts a little bit into the absurd and it is really tough to figure out what exactly is actually going on (I have my theories but who knows). It's a Ridley Scott production, so this shouldn't necessarily come as a surprise. However, I really hope they did approach this with a plan and that future seasons will elaborate on how everything fits together. If it's just another series of random shit that happens because it's cool, I'd be very disappointed. So it's very hard to judge the series at this point. I thought the first couple of episodes were very nice but after that, I guess it's mostly a matter of taste (and most importantly, it will depend on how they continue it). I'll give it a cautionary 7.5/10 bottomless pits for now but again, it's really hard to make a final judgement yet.
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Post by dazk on Jun 10, 2021 23:55:43 GMT
Finished "Raised by Wolves" yesterady. Dam, that got weird. The first 6 or 7 episodes were really cool. Basically, humanity more or less destroyed Earth's environment in a war between a religious faction and the atheists. Interestingly the religious faction is technologically somewhat superior, they can build deadly androids and a huge ark spaceship, with which they are planning to bring a bunch of people to the exoplanet Kepler-22b to start over. Because of the size of the ship and because it's carrying living humans in cryogenic suspension, the trip lasts 13 years though. Meanwhile, the atheists send a smaller ship with just two androids and a bunch of human embryos, which can get there much faster. The two androids, just named Mother and Father are supposed to gestate the embryos and to raise and protect the kids on the new and unfamiliar planet. That's where the series starts. The first half of the season is a pretty interesting but somewhat familiar scifi scenario with a bit of a mystery component as strange things happen every now and so often on the planet. In the second half, that mystery/puzzle component pretty much takes over and by the last episode, it kinda drifts a little bit into the absurd and it is really tough to figure out what exactly is actually going on (I have my theories but who knows). It's a Ridley Scott production, so this shouldn't necessarily come as a surprise. However, I really hope they did approach this with a plan and that future seasons will elaborate on how everything fits together. If it's just another series of random shit that happens because it's cool, I'd be very disappointed. So it's very hard to judge the series at this point. I thought the first couple of episodes were very nice but after that, I guess it's mostly a matter of taste (and most importantly, it will depend on how they continue it). I'll give it a cautionary 7.5/10 bottomless pits for now but again, it's really hard to make a final judgement yet. I really liked it but yeah there was some weird ass stuff going on in this show!!!!! The Actor that plays Father is the VA for the lead character Bayek in AC Origins.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 11, 2021 2:07:34 GMT
Finished My Father Is Werid Finished Legend of the Blue Sea, story of a mermaid.
Watching Tunnel. A mystery thriller. A cop chasing a serial killer through a tunnel in the 80s found himself transported to 2017. He found the killer has continued his killing spree and is determined to catch him.
Although faced with obvious / conflicting clues, he and his partner failed to pinpoint a vital hint due to their burning passion to catch the killer and failure to remain objective.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 12, 2021 18:04:46 GMT
Watching Euro 2020. Good start yesterday, with my always favourite, Italy, as if I had a choice on that one, beating Turkey. But oh man. Today ... is not a good day.Speedy recovery to mr. Erichsen of Denmark. I don't even what to think about what his family is going through right now.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 14, 2021 0:54:07 GMT
I'm watching Season 4 Episode 7 of THE EXPANSE....and every time I see Shoreh Aghdashloo on screen and she runs her mouth and cusses enough to make a sailor blush....I can't help but think of Tali as a little girl saying, "Mommy, Auntie Raan swears a lot. I don't like it when Auntie Raan swears."
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Post by dazk on Jun 14, 2021 1:04:33 GMT
I'm watching Season 4 Episode 7 of THE EXPANSE....and every time I see Shoreh Aghdashloo on screen and she runs her mouth and cusses enough to make a sailor blush....I can't help but think of Tali as a little girl saying, "Mommy, Auntie Raan swears a lot. I don't like it when Auntie Raan swears." It was such a shock hearing her swear like a trooper the first time on TV even having read the books, it's impressive because she carries it off so well.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 14, 2021 1:20:03 GMT
I'm watching Season 4 Episode 7 of THE EXPANSE....and every time I see Shoreh Aghdashloo on screen and she runs her mouth and cusses enough to make a sailor blush....I can't help but think of Tali as a little girl saying, "Mommy, Auntie Raan swears a lot. I don't like it when Auntie Raan swears." It was such a shock hearing her swear like a trooper the first time on TV even having read the books, it's impressive because she carries it off so well. And yet she, as a woman, as an actress....personally, even for her age I find her to be quite beautiful....and it shocked the hell out of me the first time I heard her tell someone to F R O. NO every time I see her on screen, I know she's going to *drop the F-Bomb* and now I find it funny as hell.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 14, 2021 10:11:37 GMT
Finished Tunnel Enjoyable drama. The producers didn't try hard to add in complicated loops to time travel. They kept it simple which I appreciated very much. I've taken to checking the ending of any potential drama I want to watch because I don't want to be caught out by a bad ending. I dislike bad endings. 😐 Starting Mystic Pop Up Bar. It's a fantasy, supernatural comedy drama. The moment it's described as comedy, I don't bother to check the ending.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jun 14, 2021 12:30:22 GMT
It was such a shock hearing her swear like a trooper the first time on TV even having read the books, it's impressive because she carries it off so well. And yet she, as a woman, as an actress....personally, even for her age I find her to be quite beautiful....and it shocked the hell out of me the first time I heard her tell someone to F R O. NO every time I see her on screen, I know she's going to *drop the F-Bomb* and now I find it funny as hell. I think she should enlist as a "Shock Trooper" haha! get it? a "shock trooper" ?
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Post by dazk on Jun 15, 2021 0:47:54 GMT
Is anyone watching the remake (I assume it's a remake) of Kung Fu?
Have watched the first couple of episodes and it's a bit ordinary, just want to know if it gets better?
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Final Space season 3 wrapped up last night. Got pretty damn epic at the end. Love this show, all the more so because I had no clue what I was getting into when I started.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 15, 2021 7:21:15 GMT
Star Trek the original series right now. Those who have been watching Discovery can probably guess the exact episode I am watching.
Also speaking of which been watching Disco season 3 to take advantage of the promo that I had. God Paramount plus sucks ass but on the other hand I am really enjoying myself. Just finished Terra Firma and that was probably the best two parter of the series to date.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 0:12:36 GMT
In a bit of a funk, not sure what I want to watch. What are some obscure or lesser-known sci-fi/fantasy shows you'd recommend? *** I'll name a few I imagine not a lot of people have seen. Tidelands 2018: Higher budget Australian fantasy-drama. Modern day setting around a coastal fishing community that has to deal with mysterious entities and a human cult that seems affiliated with them. Ends after the first season, not really a cliffhanger per se but there are loose ends.
Defying Gravity 2009: Sci-fi-drama. Near-future astronauts go on a long-term mission with a secret. It's more drama than sci-fi but the "sci-fi" mystery had me hooked. Cast is recognizable and pretty good. Some faces from "Office Space" and "Dead Like Me". Unfortunately it's a one-season wonder that ends on multiple cliffhangers. The one solace is that the creator eventually wrote where the series would go and a rough ending on an old forum so you get some conclusion. Tribes of Europa 2021:
German post-apocalyptic series. (I watched it with english-dubs on Netflix.) Not the greatest show to grace a screen but I've seen worse. I'll just copy the wiki synopsis. Set in 2074, three siblings set out to change the fate of Europe after a global catastrophe causes the continent to fracture into dystopian warring tribal microstates who vie for dominance over other states. The siblings get caught up in the conflict when they come into possession of a mysterious cube.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jun 16, 2021 0:33:36 GMT
I watched tribes of Europa. The worldbuilding is nice, the characters are, for the most part, adequate and the premise is interesting. Unfortunately, the premise is far from original and it really needs to up the ante in its second season and show some real progress with what its done so far. I'm optimistic about it. It's a very good production, by most EU standards, I think.
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