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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2021 19:38:44 GMT
Also as has been pointed out, this chapter states that Fenris murdered children. He says he eliminated Danarius’s bloodline, meaning he hunted down every child or grandchild he had no matter their age or how innocent they were. I hate Fenris. Actually, all it says is that he ended the bloodline. It doesn't specify what the ages were. For what that's worth. Bit that does mean kids, since with how Tevinter is even if Danarius’s kids were adults then they would have children. So unless Fenris spared the grandkids, thus not ending the bloodline, he killed children.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 20, 2021 19:41:58 GMT
Actually, all it says is that he ended the bloodline. It doesn't specify what the ages were. For what that's worth. Bit that does mean kids, since with how Tevinter is even if Danarius’s kids were adults then they would have children. So unless Fenris spared the grandkids, thus not ending the bloodline, he killed children. is it possible your anti Fenris bias is coloring your take?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2021 19:45:05 GMT
Bit that does mean kids, since with how Tevinter is even if Danarius’s kids were adults then they would have children. So unless Fenris spared the grandkids, thus not ending the bloodline, he killed children. is it possible your anti Fenris bias is coloring your take? No, since the comics actually had me liking Fenris. I just know that ending a bloodline means everyone, not just adults. Rainier even spells that out once his truth is revealed.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 20, 2021 19:48:38 GMT
is it possible your anti Fenris bias is coloring your take? No, since the comics actually had me liking Fenris. I just know that ending a bloodline means everyone, not just adults. Rainier even spells that out once his truth is revealed. sure its a possibility, but one the author of the work said did not happen...and they know their own work so if Fenris hurt no kids, he hurt no kids.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 20, 2021 19:51:36 GMT
Well, given that in the Twitter thread the very writer just posted that the last heirs were adults, it seems he didn’t kill children.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2021 19:54:00 GMT
Well, given that in the Twitter thread the very writer just posted that the last heirs were adults, it seems he didn’t kill children. That’s good at least. Fenris still murdered people for no other reason than who their daddy was, which is still terrible, but at least they weren’t children.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 20, 2021 19:56:53 GMT
Well, given that in the Twitter thread the very writer just posted that the last heirs were adults, it seems he didn’t kill children. That’s good at least. Fenris still murdered people for no other reason than who their daddy was, which is still terrible, but at least they weren’t children. He’s certainly one of the darkest companions across the three games. I personally like him as a character, but I can see why you would have problem with him.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2021 19:58:04 GMT
Now back to worrying about all the signs that began sprouting around Aaron about his demise, or Vaea losing that thing that is part of what makes her unique and being turned into a killer (also wow on Marius being “It’s fine” when she clearly wanted a different answer).
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Mar 20, 2021 20:06:18 GMT
Well, the truth is, that whole scene is designed to showcase the problems that come from killing and combat. While Vaea definitely went looking for a different answer, Marius isn't saying it's fine. He's saying the hesitation goes away and it becomes easier to kill a person. But his silence is meant to speak about how just because it becomes easy to kill, that's not a good thing. Which Fenris himself gives a voice to, before later falling prey to rage again and showcasing just how bad it can get when killing is your solution to everything.
(EDIT: Well, I suppose Marius' silence can also just be taken as Marius being Marius.)
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 20, 2021 20:25:28 GMT
15 years since Ostagar.
15 years.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 20, 2021 20:34:37 GMT
If Bioware aren't careful it is going to be 15 years in real time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2021 20:35:02 GMT
Well, the truth is, that whole scene is designed to showcase the problems that come from killing and combat. While Vaea definitely went looking for a different answer, Marius isn't saying it's fine. He's saying the hesitation goes away and it becomes easier to kill a person. But his silence is meant to speak about how just because it becomes easy to kill, that's not a good thing. Which Fenris himself gives a voice to, before later falling prey to rage again and showcasing just how bad it can get when killing is your solution to everything. (EDIT: Well, I suppose Marius' silence can also just be taken as Marius being Marius.) I was kind of joking with Marius being "It's fine", just commenting on how he just went yep instead of something like "Unfortunately", though I can see why he didn't since that's what Fenris adds. And yeah hard to tell sometimes with Marius if the silence before the words is part of it or just Marius being Marius as you put it. But thank you for the clarification. I still hope she never has to find out, since her being a nolethal combatant is part of what I really like about her (the other parts being just her general personality, and that so far at least she could possibly be Ace). Been watching Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood again so her not having a problem fighting but having a problem killing and avoiding it at all costs reminds me of Ed and Al (doesn't help she has some similarities, even a very similar hairstyle to Ed lol).
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Post by Solas on Mar 20, 2021 20:46:07 GMT
Danarius' heirs probably all kept slaves so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited bc I remembered it's a spoiler
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2021 20:49:34 GMT
Danarius' heirs probably all kept slaves so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Guess Fenris should murder Dorian, Maevaris, and Francesca then since all owned slaves at some point. Them owning slaves wasn't why he killed them. Them having Danarius as a daddy, something they had no control over, was. Heck Fenris was about to kill someone who was considered a bastard so didn't even have any of those things until he was propped up, stopped only be Vaea and logic.
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Post by Solas on Mar 20, 2021 21:00:57 GMT
Dorian and Fran have changed and considering Mae's role in the Lucerni which aims to reform Tevinter and her close connection to reformed Dorian, I'm curious about her further development in that arena also. RIP all Danariuspawn
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Post by necrowaif on Mar 20, 2021 21:51:13 GMT
Ah, I can still hear that cutscene in my head. Any heirs that Danarius had were likely as evil as he was, so I’ll shed no tears for their deaths.
Show of hands: who thinks Nenealeus forcing Danarius’ bastard out of the fortress is a trap?
That old viper seems too clever to let someone who might have vital information about the fortress he is using just walk away.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 20, 2021 21:53:57 GMT
Show of hands: who thinks Nenealeus forcing Danarius’ bastard out of the fortress is a trap?
That old viper seems too clever to let someone who might have vital information about the fortress he is using just walk away. Most likely. Especially since he already knows he is being hunted by the protagonists.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 20, 2021 23:19:56 GMT
15 years since Ostagar. 15 years.If Bioware aren't careful it is going to be 15 years in real time. 24 clock intensifies.
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Post by Solas on Mar 21, 2021 0:05:12 GMT
maybe thats what they're goin for 15 years since ostagar in universe and 15 years irl too. DA4 in 2024 everyone
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Post by colfoley on Mar 21, 2021 0:39:06 GMT
maybe thats what they're goin for 15 years since ostagar in universe and 15 years irl too. DA4 in 2024 everyone *Maker no.gif
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 21, 2021 8:37:51 GMT
My initial thoughts.
Don't think chucking out the Danarius heir was a trap as such. However, Nenealeus may have done it to alert them to Fenris being in the area, naturally assuming that Fenris would kill him and so they would get to hear about it. Thus Vaea stopping him being killed will keep their arrival secret. We shall see.
Also did anyone pick up on the fact that the heir was described as a "half blood". Does that mean elf bloodied? Is it possible that he is going to turn out to be related to Fenris in some way, not an immediate sibling necessarily but a cousin or something? Mind you I suppose it is possible that Danarius had his wicked way with Fenris' mother before he was born (or even after but Fenris doesn't remember it) and then the offspring sent somewhere else.
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Post by theascendent on Mar 21, 2021 9:57:00 GMT
Interesting development between the characters. Our opponents are not as united as we had assumed. Man seeing Ostagar again really tugs at the heartstrings.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 22, 2021 18:18:08 GMT
Going to expand further on my little theory concerning the origins of Tractus In the previous series the scene where Leto earns the right to be transformed and earn the boon which frees his mother and sister is described as "decades ago". That means at least two decades. That would take us back to 9:25 when I would imagine that Leto was at least late teens or early twenties in order to be considered robust enough for the process. Since Varania is likely fairly close to him in age (as they are said to have played together), that would mean she should already have shown magical ability and be of an age that she could bear children.
Fenris can remember little about his past but it is possible he was so determined to free his mother and sister because he knew Danarius was taking too great an interest in Varania. Since Danarius seems to like his experiments to improve his power and prestige and the Vints are fascinated by magical bloodlines, could Tractus actually be the offspring of Danarius and Varania?
It would be an interesting twist if that were so.
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Post by telanadas on Mar 23, 2021 6:50:45 GMT
The part where they are all in the tavern and Vaea asks Marius if killing becomes easier just had me like 🥺 The delivery, and art, and writing in this preview is so well done.
I also love how the conversations in this series are more focused around the consequences of their actions. They all clearly have different levels of morality but they are somehow working together despite this and it just makes such such a fun and interesting overall character dynamic. I hope a similar nuance will carry over to the characters in DA4.
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