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Post by bmwcrazy on May 27, 2021 17:43:04 GMT
Yes every intel system I have had or built has been a dumpster fire. So let me clarify. I build only AMD Systems.
And they are built to last. Both of these current systems are built on the FX -series. Now do they perform to the Intel level of performance on something of Intel equivalent?
I don't know. I haven't tested. But I could increase the performance better than others have with FX by using tricks I know.
Some of these actually still work with Ryzen as well.
Intel will always be in my opinion only good for cooking your eggs in the morning.
As to the remote... Yes I use that exact model of remote as in the gif.
Dumpster fire as in complete hardware failure? Like dead CPUs? Did you buy something seriously horrible like a Pentium D? What were they?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 27, 2021 17:56:36 GMT
Yes every intel system I have had or built has been a dumpster fire. So let me clarify. I build only AMD Systems.
And they are built to last. Both of these current systems are built on the FX -series. Now do they perform to the Intel level of performance on something of Intel equivalent?
I don't know. I haven't tested. But I could increase the performance better than others have with FX by using tricks I know.
Some of these actually still work with Ryzen as well.
Intel will always be in my opinion only good for cooking your eggs in the morning.
As to the remote... Yes I use that exact model of remote as in the gif.
Dumpster fire as in complete hardware failure? Like dead CPUs? Did you buy something seriously horrible like a Pentium D? What were they? DON'T ever bring that processor up! And yes one of those.
The others were:
A 486 -old school I know.
2 Core 2 Duo A Pentium 3
A Pentium 4 A Xeon 5550
An Intel i3 3240
An Intel i7 4770... After that I stopped with Intel completely.
They just can't handle my work load.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 27, 2021 18:09:44 GMT
DON'T ever bring that processor up! And yes one of those.
The others were:
A 486 -old school I know.
2 Core 2 Duo A Pentium 3
A Pentium 4 A Xeon 5550
An Intel i3 3240
An Intel i7 4770... After that I stopped with Intel completely.
They just can't handle my work load.
That's a lot of failed CPUs. I actually haven't had any CPUs failing on me yet. I've got plenty of dead GPUs but CPUs? Not even one. The hottest CPU I've ever used is actually my current Ryzen 9 5950X. It is my first CPU that actually hits 70-80C consistently in games. Still, I haven't gotten any thermal throttles yet. This thing just loves to draw power and boosts to 4 to 5ghz even without any manual overclock.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 27, 2021 18:22:44 GMT
DON'T ever bring that processor up! And yes one of those.
The others were:
A 486 -old school I know.
2 Core 2 Duo A Pentium 3
A Pentium 4 A Xeon 5550
An Intel i3 3240
An Intel i7 4770... After that I stopped with Intel completely.
They just can't handle my work load.
That's a lot of failed CPUs. I actually haven't had any CPUs failing on me yet. I've got plenty of dead GPUs but CPUs? Not even one. The hottest CPU I've ever used is actually my current Ryzen 9 5950X. It is my first CPU that actually hits 70-80C consistently in games. Still, I haven't gotten any thermal throttles yet. This thing just loves to draw power and boosts to 4 to 5ghz even without any manual overclock. Yeah. Intel and me seem to be like Matter and Anti-matter: Or maybe it is the methods I use on the AMD CPU that kill the Intel ones. Hmm never thought of that.
As to the Ryzen 5950X your using...
With the AIO your still hitting those temperatures?
May I inquire as to if you have noticed a stutter -however slight in anything you do when it boosts? Or do they call it lag now. You know when the screen seems to skip a beat or hangs for a second.
As to GPU I only ever had one GPU fail: Nvidia 760 TI. It died because its fans died and the person using it decided to run Shadow of Mordor at Medium settings at 1440x900 max resolution... They ran it for over an hour at 81*C on the GPU. Basically running the GPU in a passive state at 81* C.
Can you say ouch.
Reboot the computer and the GPU failed. Looked at it after and it showed the tale-tale markings of singe.
This is before I knew about the 120mm fan trick that I now make standard on all GPU's right out of the box.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 27, 2021 19:27:22 GMT
I guess your using the default cooler? May I inquire as to if you have noticed a stutter -however slight in anything you do when it boosts? Or do they call it lag now. You know when the screen seems to skip a beat or hangs for a second. The only Ryzen 5000 desktop CPU that comes with a stock cooler is the 5600X. So if you get a 5800X, 5900X, or 5950X, it doesn't come with any cooler. Just a flimsy paper box. I'm using an EK 360 AIO because the Noctua NH-D15 Chromax was out of stock everywhere and I also wanted to use Lian Li's O11 XL case. You can see the cooler on the first page. I posted everything already. Just like Intel's Turbo Boost, there is no lag or stutter when the boost kicks in. Everything just works seamlessly. Due to the difference in silicon quality, some cores can boost higher than others and your system knows it. In apps that benefit more from higher single-threaded performance, the system would automatically select the those cores and boost them to the highest frequency that's possible given the current thermal and power limit. AMD calls it Precision Boost and Intel calls it Turbo Boost Technology. Keep in mind that this kind of boost only selects a limited number of cores to boost the frequency and it doesn't happen to all cores. For more aggressive boosting, you can use AMD's Precision Boost Overdrive. It basically boosts beyond the advertised frequency of your CPU, so it's a very easy way to overclock your Ryzen system without doing any manual overclock. If you're lazy like me, you can just use Precision Boost Overdrive and then play with the Curve Optimizer options in the BIOS to undervolt your CPU to squeeze out the most performance. If you want to dig deeper into Ryzen overclocking, you can check out AMD's Ryzen Master and 1usmus' DRAM Calculator for your memory timing tuning. 1usmus also has a great utility called Clock Tuner that works even better than AMD's Ryzen Master. It actually tests each CCX automatically and then adjusts the frequency individually. It's a fun tool to play with, but I don't like having too many apps running in the background when I play games. So I'm sticking with using Precision Boost Overdrive and undervolting with Curve Optimizer in BIOS. Here's a video about it.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 27, 2021 20:11:30 GMT
I guess your using the default cooler? May I inquire as to if you have noticed a stutter -however slight in anything you do when it boosts? Or do they call it lag now. You know when the screen seems to skip a beat or hangs for a second. The only Ryzen 5000 desktop CPU that comes with a stock cooler is the 5600X. So if you get a 5800X, 5900X, or 5950X, it doesn't come with any cooler. Just a flimsy paper box. I'm using an EK 360 AIO because the Noctua NH-D15 Chromax was out of stock everywhere and I also wanted to use Lian Li's O11 XL case. You can see the cooler on the first page. I posted everything already. Just like Intel's Turbo Boost, there is no lag or stutter when the boost kicks in. Everything just works seamlessly. Due to the difference in silicon quality, some cores can boost higher than others and your system knows it. In apps that benefit more from higher single-threaded performance, the system would automatically select the those cores and boost them to the highest frequency that's possible given the current thermal and power limit. AMD calls it Precision Boost and Intel calls it Turbo Boost Technology. Keep in mind that this kind of boost only selects a limited number of cores to boost the frequency and it doesn't happen to all cores. For more aggressive boosting, you can use AMD's Precision Boost Overdrive. It basically boosts beyond the advertised frequency of your CPU, so it's a very easy way to overclock your Ryzen system without doing any manual overclock. If you're lazy like me, you can just use Precision Boost Overdrive and then play with the Curve Optimizer options in the BIOS to undervolt your CPU to squeeze out the most performance. If you want to dig deeper into Ryzen overclocking, you can check out AMD's Ryzen Master and 1usmus' DRAM Calculator for your memory timing tuning. 1usmus also has a great utility called Clock Tuner that works even better than AMD's Ryzen Master. It actually tests each CCX automatically and then adjusts the frequency individually. It's a fun tool to play with, but I don't like having too many apps running in the background when I play games. So I'm sticking with using Precision Boost Overdrive and undervolting with Curve Optimizer in BIOS. Here's a video about it. Yeah stupid me... I got you and someone else building a system confused... tart or bunny I think are the two I got confused with. I looked back after writing thinking "didn't they have an AIO?" -updated previous post about it.
That said...
Don't get me wrong but AMD's Ryzen Master is a joke. As almost all AMD software. They should stick to hardware period.
However the other stuff is quite good. I have been doing this for years -though manually: Undervolt and over clock the cpu ratio. Have not really looked into it on Ryzen motherboard BIOS's much. But seems the board manufactures at least now know about it giving better performance and stability than outright overclocking. Doing this via the BIOS is how I would approach this to begin with and just avoid Ryzen Master.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 27, 2021 20:17:44 GMT
I guess your using the default cooler? May I inquire as to if you have noticed a stutter -however slight in anything you do when it boosts? Or do they call it lag now. You know when the screen seems to skip a beat or hangs for a second. The only Ryzen 5000 desktop CPU that comes with a stock cooler is the 5600X. So if you get a 5800X, 5900X, or 5950X, it doesn't come with any cooler. Just a flimsy paper box. I'm using an EK 360 AIO because the Noctua NH-D15 Chromax was out of stock everywhere and I also wanted to use Lian Li's O11 XL case. You can see the cooler on the first page. I posted everything already. Just like Intel's Turbo Boost, there is no lag or stutter when the boost kicks in. Everything just works seamlessly. Due to the difference in silicon quality, some cores can boost higher than others and your system knows it. In apps that benefit more from higher single-threaded performance, the system would automatically select the those cores and boost them to the highest frequency that's possible given the current thermal and power limit. AMD calls it Precision Boost and Intel calls it Turbo Boost Technology. Keep in mind that this kind of boost only selects a limited number of cores to boost the frequency and it doesn't happen to all cores. Ok good to know. Lag or stuttering not something I want when online racing I be. Though for me being a power user -finally looking at 5900x myself. I know Ryzen is made to run hot but I have seen issues where people complain its dying less than a year after purchase -probably not. I don't know if it is still holds true the old axium: "The higher the temp of electronics the shorter its life span".
Maybe that is one of the reasons these FX chips have lasted so long. Resting CPU temp of this one and the other is right around 30*C: So following that axium -if still true -I will want to keep the temps down for my 5900x build -thank the stimulus I can afford such a processor. That way 10 years from now I will still be rocking a 5900 while... everyone else has off and left me in the dust... Well that is ok I like being the odd man out. If all the above is done and It still maxes the temperatures I will limit the Ryzen temperature to around 60*C max. I will use the Windows 10 CPU limiter to make this viable... It also seems to give a performance boost -not much -I mean a 2802 becomes a 2909 in Cinebench R20... Strange they didn't mention that...
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 27, 2021 21:28:30 GMT
Ok good to know. Lag or stuttering not something I want when online racing I be. Though for me being a power user -finally looking at 5900x myself. I know Ryzen is made to run hot but I have seen issues where people complain its dying less than a year after purchase -probably not. I don't know if it is still holds true the old axium: "The higher the temp of electronics the shorter its life span".
Maybe that is one of the reasons these FX chips have lasted so long. Resting CPU temp of this one and the other is right around 30*C: So following that axium -if still true -I will want to keep the temps down for my 5900x build -thank the stimulus I can afford such a processor. That way 10 years from now I will still be rocking a 5900 while... everyone else has off and left me in the dust... Well that is ok I like being the odd man out. If all the above is done and It still maxes the temperatures I will limit the Ryzen temperature to around 60*C max. I will use the Windows 10 CPU limiter to make this viable... It also seems to give a performance boost -not much -I mean a 2802 becomes a 2909 in Cinebench R20... Strange they didn't mention that...
If you don't want lag or stutters when you play games, I suggest you don't run anything crazy in the background like encoding a video like you do. The FX CPUs were actually some of hottest CPUs ever made. Those things can pull more than 300 watts when overclocked. So if you're used to the FX CPUs, the 12-core 5900X will be pretty tame in comparison. Even my 16-core 5950X barely uses 200 watts with Precision Boost Overdrive enabled. I highly recommend using HWiNFO64 to monitor the temperature readings and find out the hot spots in your system. As I mentioned before, the Noctua NH-D15 is a great air cooler for these Ryzen CPUs. I'd recommend getting the Chromax version for the all-black look, but those are rarely in stock. The regular version is easier to find and it's also cheaper, but it comes with an unpainted cooler and the typical brown and beige Noctua fans. You can use something like pcpartpicker to make sure it fits in your case before you buy it.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 27, 2021 22:02:39 GMT
Ok good to know. Lag or stuttering not something I want when online racing I be. Though for me being a power user -finally looking at 5900x myself. I know Ryzen is made to run hot but I have seen issues where people complain its dying less than a year after purchase -probably not. I don't know if it is still holds true the old axium: "The higher the temp of electronics the shorter its life span".
Maybe that is one of the reasons these FX chips have lasted so long. Resting CPU temp of this one and the other is right around 30*C: So following that axium -if still true -I will want to keep the temps down for my 5900x build -thank the stimulus I can afford such a processor. That way 10 years from now I will still be rocking a 5900 while... everyone else has off and left me in the dust... Well that is ok I like being the odd man out. If all the above is done and It still maxes the temperatures I will limit the Ryzen temperature to around 60*C max. I will use the Windows 10 CPU limiter to make this viable... It also seems to give a performance boost -not much -I mean a 2802 becomes a 2909 in Cinebench R20... Strange they didn't mention that...
If you don't want lag or stutters when you play games , I suggest you don't run anything crazy in the background like encoding a video like you do.The FX CPUs were actually some of hottest CPUs ever made. Those things can pull more than 300 watts when overclocked. So if you're used to the FX CPUs, the 12-core 5900X will be pretty tame in comparison. Even my 16-core 5950X barely uses 200 watts with Precision Boost Overdrive enabled. I highly recommend using HWiNFO64 to monitor the temperature readings and find out the hot spots in your system. As I mentioned before, the Noctua NH-D15 is a great air cooler for these Ryzen CPUs. I'd recommend getting the Chromax version for the all-black look, but those are rarely in stock. The regular version is easier to find and it's also cheaper, but it comes with an unpainted cooler and the typical brown and beige Noctua fans. You can use something like pcpartpicker to make sure it fits in your case before you buy it. Not run my encoding? NEVER!
GOTTA DO IT!
Got to get paid.
That said...
The FX run hotter than Ryzen when OC'ed?
Hmm... Then I got great news.... I will get to air cool a FX... AMD RYZEN 5900x with the NH-D15! I already got the regular version two years ago in preparation. Ehh the paint of the chronomax version will just act as some heat soak I don't care for. Already got Noctua Industrials 2000 RPM's to replace the default D15's fans. I think black and silver... and maybe some cyan look well together... Would I be wrong?
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Post by rewindbutton on May 28, 2021 9:24:47 GMT
Hopefully the dust build-up won't be too bad given the more positive pressure inside the case. Positive pressure only means, that the dust will come from different places. This is good however, because now you can use filters in the intake. Very cool picture, BTW, it's like a cyberpunk city in there.
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Post by rewindbutton on May 28, 2021 9:43:34 GMT
I also am very truly sorry to say that I don't have a webcam either. Webcams are dirt cheap, and they have their uses, these days especially.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 28, 2021 17:14:57 GMT
Positive pressure only means, that the dust will come from different places. This is good however, because now you can use filters in the intake. Very cool picture, BTW, it's like a cyberpunk city in there. I usually use air filters on my PC. You can buy a huge pack of them from any hardware store and just cut them to any sizes. This time the case came with its own plastic filters. They aren't quite as good as actual air filters and a lot of dust actually get through them. You can clearly see the dust on the glass panel in that photo. It's funny that you mentioned cyberpunk city. I actually built this PC mainly to run Cyberpunk 2077 and one of my favorite things to do is walking around the city and admiring the different urban architectures in each district. The game itself was a huge letdown but they really managed to build a jaw dropping city.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 29, 2021 13:41:22 GMT
I also am very truly sorry to say that I don't have a webcam either. Webcams are dirt cheap, and they have their uses, these days especially. Yeah well I will not be building anywhere near this system. I doubt that webcams would have the 1550ft at least from here to the garage where I build computers. Is there another option also considering I don't use WIFI?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 29, 2021 13:45:02 GMT
Positive pressure only means, that the dust will come from different places. This is good however, because now you can use filters in the intake. Very cool picture, BTW, it's like a cyberpunk city in there. I usually use air filters on my PC. You can buy a huge pack of them from any hardware store and just cut them to any sizes. This time the case came with its own plastic filters. They aren't quite as good as actual air filters and a lot of dust actually get through them. You can clearly see the dust on the glass panel in that photo. It's funny that you mentioned cyberpunk city. I actually built this PC mainly to run Cyberpunk 2077 and one of my favorite things to do is walking around the city and admiring the different urban architectures in each district. The game itself was a huge letdown but they really managed to build a jaw dropping city. That is the way it usually goes with open-world titles. Don't think there is a single franchise that this doesn't happen... Except maybe Assassins Creed -they usually get it right but there are always exceptions...
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 29, 2021 16:52:41 GMT
That is the way it usually goes with open-world titles. Don't think there is a single franchise that this doesn't happen... Except maybe Assassins Creed -they usually get it right but there are always exceptions...
I actually get bored in a lot of Assassins Creed games pretty easily. I couldn't even finish Odyssey. Personally, I much prefer open world games like Grand Theft Auto. Red Dead Redemption 2 is next.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 29, 2021 21:40:44 GMT
That is the way it usually goes with open-world titles. Don't think there is a single franchise that this doesn't happen... Except maybe Assassins Creed -they usually get it right but there are always exceptions...
I actually get bored in a lot of Assassins Creed games pretty easily. I couldn't even finish Odyssey. Personally, I much prefer open world games like Grand Theft Auto. Red Dead Redemption 2 is next. As said there are always exceptions... And maybe I should add that there is also personal choice and personal esthetic that should be applied.
In my case I could never get into the GTA series more than one hour before quitting... Granted I am talking GTA 3 as the starting point for me.
There are three main reasons for this: Car and World physics and the multiple life mechanic. Did they ever fix these things or can you still do the impossible? I ALMOST got a console for RDR/RDR2 ALMOST! Phew! Disaster avoid.
The games sounded good till I found out duels were required to advanced plot.
I always prefer a more tactful approach not being forced down a certain road.
Then the ending of both was spoiled for me then I didn't really care. Revenge is nice but also having the option of avenging the revenge and then abstaining also appeals to me.
This is probably proven in the game I would choose versus these... The original Watchdogs with the environment and graphics overhaul mod:
For some reason the silent protagonist appeals to me.
Alas everyone is different I guess something for one will not appeal to another.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 29, 2021 22:37:22 GMT
As said there are always exceptions... And maybe I should add that there is also personal choice and personal esthetic that should be applied.
In my case I could never get into the GTA series more than one hour before quitting granted I am talking GTA 3 here.
There are three main reasons for this: Car and World physics and the multiple life mechanic. Did they ever fix these things or can you still do the impossible? You shouldn't ask me because I'm partial to GTA V. I've spent about 500 hours in GTA V and more than 8000 hours in GTA Online. In fact, I even built my previous PC just to play it. GTA V is currently the most profitable entertainment product ever made. More than any films, books, or video games. Despite that, I can't tell you whether or not you'll enjoy it. A lot of the friends that I've made in GTA Online are moving on to Red Dead Redemption 2. I'm not a big fan of Western-themed video games, but I'll give it a shot and test out Resizable-BAR while I'm at it. I doubt it will make any difference but let's have fun with this gaming PC.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 29, 2021 23:22:31 GMT
As said there are always exceptions... And maybe I should add that there is also personal choice and personal esthetic that should be applied.
In my case I could never get into the GTA series more than one hour before quitting granted I am talking GTA 3 here.
There are three main reasons for this: Car and World physics and the multiple life mechanic. Did they ever fix these things or can you still do the impossible? You shouldn't ask me because I'm partial to GTA V. I've spent about 500 hours in GTA V and more than 8000 hours in GTA Online. In fact, I even built my previous PC just to play it. GTA V is currently the most profitable entertainment product ever made. More than any films, books, or video games. Despite that, I can't tell you whether or not you'll enjoy it. A lot of the friends that I've made in GTA Online are moving on to Red Dead Redemption 2. I'm not a big fan of Western-themed video games, but I'll give it a shot and test out Resizable-BAR while I'm at it. I doubt it will make any difference but let's have fun with this gaming PC. So did they fix those things or are they the same as GTA 3? Don't worry I am sure you did a better job building it than this: A plus that I will give this setup and builder: Maybe that Darth Vader head used the Force to destroy it.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 30, 2021 0:26:13 GMT
There are three main reasons for this: Car and World physics and the multiple life mechanic. Did they ever fix these things or can you still do the impossible? So did they fix those things or are they the same as GTA 3? GTA V used a completely different game engine than GTA 3. It was called the Rockstar Advanced Game Engine aka RAGE, and it also included a proprietary physics engine which was a huge improvement over GTA 3, GTA Vice City, and GTA San Andreas. Still, random physics anomalies would still happen in GTA V all the time. It's part of its charm at this point. As for the multiple life mechanic, I don't quite understand what you meant by that. If you're referring to dying without much consequences, GTA V was pretty much the same as GTA 3. Whenever you died, you would just respawn right away. If you're referring to the multiple protagonists in GTA V, some people loved it and some people didn't. In the end, it's a little silly to compare a game made in 2001 to one made in 2013. Don't forget GTA V was remade in 2014 for PS4/Xbox One, and soon to be remade again this year for PS5/Xbox Series X. I don't even remember what GTA 3 was like because last time I played it was almost 20 years ago. So you just have to experience it yourself.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 30, 2021 0:40:44 GMT
There are three main reasons for this: Car and World physics and the multiple life mechanic. Did they ever fix these things or can you still do the impossible? So did they fix those things or are they the same as GTA 3? GTA V used a completely different game engine than GTA 3. It was called the Rockstar Advanced Game Engine aka RAGE, and it also included a proprietary physics engine which was a huge improvement over GTA 3, GTA Vice City, and GTA San Andreas. Still, random physics anomalies would still happen in GTA V all the time. It's part of its charm at this point. As for the multiple life mechanic, I don't quite understand what you meant by that. If you're referring to dying without much consequences, GTA V was pretty much the same as GTA 3. Whenever you died, you would just respawn right away. If you're referring to the multiple protagonists in GTA V, some people loved it and some people didn't. In the end, it's a little silly to compare a game made in 2001 to one made in 2013. Don't forget GTA V was remade in 2014 for PS4/Xbox One, and soon to be remade again this year for PS5/Xbox Series X. I don't even remember what GTA 3 was like because last time I played it was almost 20 years ago. So you just have to experience it yourself. Apparently they did at least fix the mutil-life issue. Guess it was some sort of glitch.
The hud now looks more like Mafia and other like games even like Watchdogs. When I ran GTA 3 sometimes it would glitch out and have the heart rating glitching out. It would run multiple ones across screen sometimes made it look like you have this from Beyond Good and Evil: But the hearts go on forever. The physics has to be better for sure I just can't play a game where a bus will drive like it has the mass of Volkswagon Bug!
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 30, 2021 0:46:02 GMT
Don't worry I am sure you did a better job building it than this: My PC hasn't crashed yet since I built it. Not even during any stress tests. I haven't encountered any random restarts, BSOD, or WHEA errors either. Everything just works. I still wouldn't leave it on 24/7 because it pulls about 300 watts on idle and more than 700 watts in games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider. It is ridiculous.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 30, 2021 0:48:13 GMT
Don't worry I am sure you did a better job building it than this:
My PC hasn't crashed yet since I built it. Not even during any stress tests. I haven't encountered any random restarts, BSOD, or WHEA errors either. Everything just works. I still wouldn't leave it on 24/7 because it pulls about 300 watts on idle and more than 700 watts in games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider. It is ridiculous. In other words a large electricity bill?
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 30, 2021 0:56:07 GMT
In other words a large electricity bill? More like heat. Higher wattage means more heat generated. I had to turn off my heater and keep my windows open even during winter when I played games.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 30, 2021 1:04:44 GMT
In other words a large electricity bill? More like heat. Higher wattage means more heat generated. I had to turn off my heater and keep my windows open even during winter when I played games. Funnel the exhaust through your dryer exhaust and out of the house?
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 30, 2021 1:11:48 GMT
Funnel the exhaust through your dryer exhaust and out of the house? My bedroom is upstairs and my laundry room is downstairs. So that's not possible. Now that the weather is warmer, I just use my Nest app to turn on the AC when I game.
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