End of Year PC Build

Eventually but I know when to row and when not to.
Also don't always have to row -especially against the current.
Sometimes its better to use the oar to steer than fight but of course row when needed. 

Let me guess the hard drive was vertical in the array? WD Mechanical Hard Drives like to be horizontal. For some reason it stabilizes the spinning disks better. Most of my current mechanical drives are WD 2 TB's. My drives usually -if not work involved do last a long time. Those I have to use for work do die in 2 years or less and yes that is WD Blacks. 

The longest active drive I have is a 2 TB WD Black drive here that is just used to store PDF comics and just recently went yellow. Its one of the ones recently connected to the community computer -it currently has a total up time of -according to CDI: 
63923 hour of total use or 2663 days 11 hours or: 7 Years, 3 months, 2 Weeks, 3 Days, 3 Hours

Sigh. I didn't say it was a fact to be disproved. I know drives will fail in any orientation but it just seems that the horizontal position seems to allow them to last longer and also when they do begin to fail recovery is ALOT easier than on vertical drives -ever hear when a vertical drive hits the casing?

I digress though what I have said is an observation of WD Black hard drives in two hard drive racks with fans -one each for two separate computers. Yes my hard drives actually sit outside the system. Isolated from the systems own vibration. These observations have been made over 15 years on drives that run 24/7. The first four drives each were mounted vertically -they lasted shorter than any of the ones after them that have been mounted horizontally -not extremely shorter maybe about 5% -10%.

No WD vertical mount in my system made four years but the horizontal ones have all exceeded six years. Again if work related then its less -2 years tops. Now maybe its negligible. Maybe its an outlier. Maybe its wishful thinking. Maybe its the extreme care taken to make them exactly level -using a level. Maybe its desire for difference. Maybe its a conspiracy. All I know is it works. And there is this: 
Maybe just maybe both of these things make a difference for me since my system is 24/7 and always under some sort of load. These are the only two things I see that could possibly be reason why my outlier drives have all done this. 

So maybe the excess heat is rising up and the fans blow it away evenly -which keeps heat from becoming excessive. Especially in a system where the normal heat on my drives is about 45*C
And I still got that one going and it may just make it to eight years of use. 

Just stating maybe I found a more efficient use of orientation -or lack there of. Though I grant the article states basically the same as you. This all I see that explains it. 

That or its a coincidence or luck and don't believe in either of those things.
I believe in physics. Even the unknown physics which man will never discover at this rate.

If you're looking for a good quality, strong UPS...I highly recommend the APC  RS1500MS v2.  (shown here: www.apc.com/ca/en/product/BR1500MS2/apc-backups-pro-1500va-865w-tower-120v-10x-nema-515r-outlets-avr-usb-type-a-+-c-ports-lcd-user-replaceable-battery/)

I have the original RS1500MS v. 1 and it's ever slightly more powerful in Watts (900 for my v1 as this newer version is 865).  I bought mine on Amazon.ca back in 2018, and it's still going  strong.  It has more than double the load output that I can deliver even with my 10 series CPU, 1000 watt power Supply and the RTX 2080 Super FTW3 Ultra Gaming. I upgraded from a 750 Watt UPS because even with my older 6850K CPU and GTX 1080, it was being overloaded and shutting down the PC (I almost wrote shi**ing the bed).  It was expensive, I think I paid close to 500.00 for it, but the upgrade was more than well worth it.  It's been a great performer, and 1500VA is what I would recommend for any serious Gaming set-up or other Configuration with RAID and multiple drives, especially if you've got some serious hardware like a 30 series or 40 series GPU and a 1200 or 1300 series Intel CPU, or AMD's equivalent.

  It can be found on amazon.ca for 375 CAD


www.amazon.ca/APC-Schneider-Electric-BR1500MS2-Uninterruptible/dp/B08GRY1W93




If you're looking for equally good Power Supplies, I would highly, highly recommend EVGA's 1000 Watt 80+ P2.  EVGA PSU's in the P2 (and I think the P3 series) are made by SuperFlower and they're one of the best in the business.   Plus, for the performance....I think they are very reasonably priced- even here in Canada where everything is far more expensive.   The more expensive alternative that is equally good or, some say better, in quality and performance is Seasonic.    But for a more wallet-friendly (and wife friendly) option, I would go with EVGA.  

If I get a Christmas bonus...
I am getting this:

Your welcome.

I've never understood RAID.  How to set it up or what it's purpose was.....from what I gather though it's about networking/slaving multiple drives together for data backup, so that if one fails you have multiple backups and copies.

But why not just every once in a while dump stoff from your bootable drive to an external drive (whether SSD or Magnetic)?

I do absolutely believe in the efficacy and usefulness of RAID, particularly 1/5/10. 6 in the future maybe.

I merely wanted to be "that guy" for reasons I will never fully understand myself... because sometimes I'm just a stubborn ass. Sorry

Energizer Bunny 211 - this link is useful for reference, if you want more than what we have said. kb.synology.com/en-us/DSM/help/DSM/StorageManager/storage_pool_what_is_raid?version=7

My current NAS situation is not my "backup", it is really just a media server. This uses SHR (basically RAID 1) because initially I had different size drives in there. Now functions as an 8tb volume with redundancy for one drive failure. It is due for replacement, running out of room faster than I expected.

With RAID 1/5/6/10, you have always at least enough redundancy for one drive failure, and depending on number of drives and choice sometimes more drives can fail and you are still "safe" for the moment.

My lab PC is where old HDDs go to their last slave camp, to labor until they die. They remind me, of me. Anyways, this isn't really a RAID "friendly" array with the wide variety of drives in it, at least not for data redundancy, more a JBOD if I wanted just that. But I do have a matching pair of 4tb Reds in there, so those are RAID 1 and have all of my various projects and archives. The other drives are just drives man.

Finally, there is the "chill" storage, currently manually updated, a 16tb standalone WD that a friend didn't want and I got for a scream. Was going to shuck, decided instead to use as colder storage that could essentially backup both my NAS 8tb and my lab 4tb.

My lab is obviously smaller than bmws. If money is no option, SSDs are being used in some NAS applications but still aren't, IMO, the right choice for a NAS due to their speed being largely wasted - in a NAS system, your network is the bottleneck, not your drive speed. There are also some wear-related issues to be concerned about with symmetrical wear on SSDs, which are slightly less a concern with mechanical drives.

An SSD NAS is going to be damned quiet though, which would be nice if you had nowhere to hide it.

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The HTPC "build" is still very much in the spitballing stage. Everything is just a little too expensive right now for my tastes, and since I don't actually "need" it, I'm practicing a little patience. Hopefully some sense is knocked back into the marketplace, it is a broken picture to me in the current.

bmwcrazy Energizer Bunny 211 @grinch Heimdall @gaben7 DragonKingReborn Beerfish rewindbutton

As long as its a "set it and forget it" mentality yes a fully plugged cable should be fine. Just if you remove it even once I recommend the revolver, putting one in the chamber and spinning the barrel... at the card not at you.

Foreign debris could still be able to form however if removed and reattached in my opinion. Nvidia's claim of 30 connection cycles should be more like 3. In the process of pushing the connector in the tight confines of the small form factor makes the shedding of plastic and plating seem likely the more the connector is moved or disconnected. That shedding gets in between the connector and the adapter and bonfire time we will have -eventually. 

If they had used any other electroplating process than White Bronze or derivative thereof this may not even be an issue. IF Nvidia used White Bronze just to save a buck I would not be surprised -though I get it -its cheaper than just using Nickel or Copper alone. Sure it would have be more expensive but it sure would have been safer. Still... I get why its been done with the EU and their nickel policies. Or maybe just made the connection port the same bloody size as the current eight pin connection. Smaller isn't always better. It doesn't just seem like an oversight but a manufacturing failure period.  

Interesting stuff AV.

The LG monitor stuff... very disappointing. I have had to do more soldering in my lifetime than I ever wanted to, and looking at those pads and the incredibly tight spacing - I would have nuped out much faster than that guy. I cannot work that accurately, need a robot to do it. I can barely solder wire to LED ribbon pads, and this stuff is significantly smaller and in a tighter space with so many other things happening.

The 4090 issue turns out to be a bad design and user error. This is not surprising, but I think GN should have emphasized the poor design of the connector, the fact it doesn't properly click/lock into place, as the bigger issue than dumb kids that didn't fully insert the connector. Watching that whole video though, I am reminded that not everyone that builds computers actually knows what they are doing. I can see the Verge video now lol with the guy installing RAM in wrong slots as he happily teaches us how to completely fuck up a computer build.

I do declare that those of us in this thread are competent enough to install a 4090 and not set fire to their computer, regardless of connector type. We are nerds, this is not surprising.

ETA- Bismuth! Yes.

Well according to this:

I am not as socially inept as a dork or a dweeb.
I do like to invent clever ways to complete things but not to Edison level treachery.
I do however obsess about technology and a few other things like a geek would.
I think Nerdageek or Geekanerd probably fits me better.   
Though at times... Mad Scientist seems appealing...