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Post by Kappa Neko on May 30, 2023 12:48:22 GMT
Both speed and latency matter for memory. The 13th-gen Intel CPUs run a bit better on high speed RAM compared to AMD's Ryzen 7000-series. A lot of 13th-gen owners use 6400-7200mhz DDR5, but honestly you won't notice any difference unless you spend most of your time running benchmarks. The higher prices for anything faster than 6000 does not seem justified given the small amount of extra fps I've seen in gaming benchmarks on 1440p. I'm not going to pay 30-50% more for 10% more fps. So I'll keep the 5600 CL36 for now since they were fairly cheap. Should DDR5 RAM with much better latency and a good price get released in the future I might give it a try. But I considered this before with DDR3 and decided it's wasted money. I'm not willing to pay more than 250€ for a Z790 board. I don't need all those extra features. It's a pure gaming PC with some very basic video editing of gaming footage using free (!) software, lol. PC gaming has become way too expensive. Unless there are performance issues with the cheaper Z790 boards, I'll buy whatever is on sale for a good price. Super noob question: If I wanted to move the Win10 install from the old SSD to a faster one, is that difficult to do? Would that wipe everything? Also, does that make even sense? How much faster are those new SSDs? I think windows is still on the first SSD I bought in 2015. I'd have somebody more knowledgeable do it in any case. Just wondering if it's even possible to switch without a complete wipe. Under no circumstances do I want my gaming folders to get messed up. There's years of modding involved. My games are of course not on the OS drive but some of the modding folders might be, I'm not sure. I have lots of stuff parked on the desktop like a total crazy person though. Lol.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 30, 2023 14:00:36 GMT
Super noob question: If I wanted to move the Win10 install from the old SSD to a faster one, is that difficult to do? Would that wipe everything? Also, does that make even sense? How much faster are those new SSDs? I think windows is still on the first SSD I bought in 2015. I'd have somebody more knowledgeable do it in any case. Just wondering if it's even possible to switch without a complete wipe. Under no circumstances do I want my gaming folders to get messed up. There's years of modding involved. My games are of course not on the OS drive but some of the modding folders might be, I'm not sure. I have lots of stuff parked on the desktop like a total crazy person though. Lol. For a 13700K build, it's important to know that the 12th and 13th-gen chips are considerably different than the previous Intel CPU architectures. New Intel CPUs like the 13700K have Performance and Efficient cores. Think P cores as large cores for heavy tasks like encoding and gaming. E cores for light/background tasks and power saving. You need to install the correct Intel chipset drivers and update your Windows 10 to get the new Windows task scheduler to properly take advantage of the P and E cores. Personally, I would do a clean install of Windows 11 but you probably don't have to. In theory, your old Windows 10 installation should work fine as long as you uninstall the unnecessary old drivers, install the right drivers for your new hardware (especially the Intel chipset drivers), and fully update your Windows 10. If that doesn't work somehow, then you need to do it the hard way. I know it's a pain in the ass to do a clean install of Windows 11, get necessary apps, drivers, tweak the settings, and sort out all your game mods.
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...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 30, 2023 17:33:50 GMT
For a 13700K build, it's important to know that the 12th and 13th-gen chips are considerably different than the previous Intel CPU architectures. New Intel CPUs like the 13700K have Performance and Efficient cores. Think P cores as large cores for heavy tasks like encoding and gaming. E cores for light/background tasks and power saving. You need to install the correct Intel chipset drivers and update your Windows 10 to get the new Windows task scheduler to properly take advantage of the P and E cores. Personally, I would do a clean install of Windows 11 but you probably don't have to. In theory, your old Windows 10 installation should work fine as long as you uninstall the unnecessary old drivers, install the right drivers for your new hardware (especially the Intel chipset drivers), and fully update your Windows 10. If that doesn't work somehow, then you need to do it the hard way. I know it's a pain in the ass to do a clean install of Windows 11, get necessary apps, drivers, tweak the settings, and sort out all your game mods. Oh god... I hope that computer builder friend of a friend knows what they're doing if I can get in touch with them about putting my new parts together. Is there a big advantage in switching to win 11? Like, will I get into trouble with new game releases not supporting it anymore? I know it's been a long time so I should update windows as well. But I REALLY don't want to. >_< Edit: Support for Win10 ends in 2025, crap. So I guess I might as well switch now. :/ I'm just suuuper paranoid about fucking up my modded games. Years ago I had my game folders moved to a different drive and back by my professional PC guy when I added another SSD and reorganized and that worked fine. But he moved away to take care of his mother. He's rarely back in town. So now I don't have a trusted PC guy anymore who works for cheap. Hence I might have to take a gamble with that friend if a friend...
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by dazk on May 30, 2023 22:45:04 GMT
I found there is an option in Windows Update to do a "Fresh Start" and as I have delinked One Drive now hopefully, I can reinstall everything locally rather than involving One Drive at all. Has anyone used the Fresh Start option? It is no real hassle for me to back everything up (documents etc.) to my external drive but it also says it will keep personal files. Again wondered if anyone has used Fresh Start and that option. Yeah I had to use it with Win10 back in the early days of the OS. It works. Its just a fresh OS then. Copy the documents to external drive and fresh it up! It says it will give the option to set it up locally do you remember if it did that and if I have OneDrive delinked for this PC I assume it will have no choice anyway yeah?
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 30, 2023 23:16:29 GMT
I'm just suuuper paranoid about fucking up my modded games. Years ago I had my game folders moved to a different drive and back by my professional PC guy when I added another SSD and reorganized and that worked fine. But he moved away to take care of his mother. He's rarely back in town. So now I don't have a trusted PC guy anymore who works for cheap. Hence I might have to take a gamble with that friend if a friend... You might be able to use a disk cloning software to copy your old drive to the new NVMe SSD. A lot of SSD manufacturers like Samsung and Western Digital provide them for free. They work as long as you have their drives. You'll need one of those external NVMe enclosures like this, but they are not compatible with all drives and systems. If they all work on your old PC, you can simply migrate to the new NVMe SSD and then pop it into the new PC. This way you can keep your old drive exactly as it is as a backup. Just remember that there's still a chance that your old Windows install won't work on the new PC.
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...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 31, 2023 5:30:17 GMT
You might be able to use a disk cloning software to copy your old drive to the new NVMe SSD. A lot of SSD manufacturers like Samsung and Western Digital provide them for free. They work as long as you have their drives. You'll need one of those external NVMe enclosures like this, but they are not compatible with all drives and systems. If they all work on your old PC, you can simply migrate to the new NVMe SSD and then pop it into the new PC. This way you can keep your old drive exactly as it is as a backup. Just remember that there's still a chance that your old Windows install won't work on the new PC. How about upgrading to Win 11 (not a clean install, just updating), assuming it won't mess up my file paths already. And then clone the drive with the OS on? This is all too complicated for me. I really need a pro to do this for me.
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To find the secrets of the universe: Think in terms of energy, frequency & VIBRATION -Nikola Tesla
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Origin: NO. NEVER. AGAIN.
XBL Gamertag: No.
PSN: No
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 5:46:36 GMT
Hi guys, I was wondering if you could help me with certain decisions regarding my new PC build. I need a board for the 13700K I ordered last night to replace my 4790K. But I'm overwhelmed by the choices. Do I need a Z790 or would a B760 do? Or maybe a Z690 with Bios flashback? I don't want to overspend on a board since I don't need wifi, don't need on-board sound, don't need bluetooth. And I don't plan on overclocking the CPU, or RAM for that matter.(I already ordered DDR5 RAM 5600 for a good price.)I'm currently using 2 SATA SSDs and 2 HDDs. I need to add another SSD soon probably. M.2 this time. So I guess any board will do for that?? I read the B boards run hot with a 13700K, is that true? Btw I also need a new cooler and was thinking beQuiet Dark Rock 4 Pro, seems the most popular in Germany. I'd like to use this setup 8-9 years again if possible without having to tinker with it.I missed a really good sale on a Z790 board a few days ago because I was on vacation. So I might wait for another on any of those. Unless there are some that should be avoided? GPU and new PSU are something else I might have to consider soon depending on how well Starfield runs on a 1080Ti but that's more about how much do I want to get ripped off by Nvidia (and AMD for that matter)... so I don't really need recommdations there. Your options will be limited if your wanting in the low range for a motherboard to match that CPU and RAM. In my opinion your best option is the Gigabyte Z790 UD AC motherboard that natively supports both the RAM and CPU. If you were running the D14 -its likely your system was cool as ice in an ice cave since the D series can be just as good as low end watercooling. Speaking of Heatsink coolers you can save 20€ or so by getting the Thermalright Peerless Assassin instead. Its competitive against either of those others but as stated for less. For Starfield it recommends: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 for minimum and a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 for recommended settings. In terms of 3000 series that is equivalent to a RTX 3060 or a RX 6700XT. If you want a bit of head room you could go with a 3060 TI or 3070 but that is overkill. As of this typing you can get a 3060 for around $280 while a its counterpart the 6700XT is actually selling neck to neck against the 3060 TI. So to save a few get a 3060 or if you want to be more powerful then go the 3060TI. The 6700XT is super out of its element here and the obvious AMD ripoff. As to PSU I seconded the using a Seasonic one.
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At sunrise there is the sunset.
To find the secrets of the universe: Think in terms of energy, frequency & VIBRATION -Nikola Tesla
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Origin: NO. NEVER. AGAIN.
XBL Gamertag: No.
PSN: No
Posts: 5,220 Likes: 5,079
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Bottom
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 5:46:59 GMT
Both speed and latency matter for memory. The 13th-gen Intel CPUs run a bit better on high speed RAM compared to AMD's Ryzen 7000-series. A lot of 13th-gen owners use 6400-7200mhz DDR5, but honestly you won't notice any difference unless you spend most of your time running benchmarks. The higher prices for anything faster than 6000 does not seem justified given the small amount of extra fps I've seen in gaming benchmarks on 1440p. I'm not going to pay 30-50% more for 10% more fps.
So I'll keep the 5600 CL36 for now since they were fairly cheap. Should DDR5 RAM with much better latency and a good price get released in the future I might give it a try. But I considered this before with DDR3 and decided it's wasted money.I'm not willing to pay more than 250€ for a Z790 board. I don't need all those extra features. It's a pure gaming PC with some very basic video editing of gaming footage using free (!) software, lol. PC gaming has become way too expensive. Unless there are performance issues with the cheaper Z790 boards, I'll buy whatever is on sale for a good price.
Super noob question: If I wanted to move the Win10 install from the old SSD to a faster one, is that difficult to do? Would that wipe everything? Also, does that make even sense? How much faster are those new SSDs? I think windows is still on the first SSD I bought in 2015.
I'd have somebody more knowledgeable do it in any case. Just wondering if it's even possible to switch without a complete wipe. Under no circumstances do I want my gaming folders to get messed up. There's years of modding involved. My games are of course not on the OS drive but some of the modding folders might be, I'm not sure. I have lots of stuff parked on the desktop like a total crazy person though. Lol. Considering the bandwidth of DD5 it will mop the floor even at root speed. See my previous post. Most Z790's are going to require a Bios flash to be updated to use that CPU. The one I link NATIVELY supports 13th Gen. This is easy to do -especially with the Paid version of EaseUS. Also if you clone the drive -you would not loose data -till you format the host drive. The bad thing is -if the drive being cloned has issues: IE: corruption, multi-data, ect or exceeds the drive to be cloned to... You can get problems. However if you have this and you have games installed. Its best they are not on the same drive as windows because then the above will not only wipe the game but lead to reinstall.
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At sunrise there is the sunset.
To find the secrets of the universe: Think in terms of energy, frequency & VIBRATION -Nikola Tesla
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Shattered Steel, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR
Origin: NO. NEVER. AGAIN.
XBL Gamertag: No.
PSN: No
Posts: 5,220 Likes: 5,079
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 5:52:53 GMT
You might be able to use a disk cloning software to copy your old drive to the new NVMe SSD. A lot of SSD manufacturers like Samsung and Western Digital provide them for free. They work as long as you have their drives. You'll need one of those external NVMe enclosures like this, but they are not compatible with all drives and systems. If they all work on your old PC, you can simply migrate to the new NVMe SSD and then pop it into the new PC. This way you can keep your old drive exactly as it is as a backup. Just remember that there's still a chance that your old Windows install won't work on the new PC. How about upgrading to Win 11 (not a clean install, just updating), assuming it won't mess up my file paths already. And then clone the drive with the OS on? This is all too complicated for me. I really need a pro to do this for me. Upgrading is rather straight forward and should work fine. However sometimes when you upgrade it can break things. IE:>> certain programs and or games that worked in Windows 10 may stop working in Windows 11 for not being compatible. This usually happens to old programs and games while new stuff remains functional.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 31, 2023 7:49:44 GMT
Yeah I had to use it with Win10 back in the early days of the OS. It works. Its just a fresh OS then. Copy the documents to external drive and fresh it up! It says it will give the option to set it up locally do you remember if it did that and if I have OneDrive delinked for this PC I assume it will have no choice anyway yeah? Well I havent done it on Win11 so might differ. Basically at least for me on every machine, onedrive just sits there doing nothing until I open it. I use my Microsoft account to login to machines so its on every machine available, but does nothing by itself as it should.. So not really sure about "set it up locally". Delink will go away I think.. not sure. But! You can configure OneDrive what it does and to which directory, just dont let it do anything automatically
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An unknown possibly hostile flotilla detected at eight hundred astronomical units from the sun!
5,042
Jun 29, 2017 12:57:11 GMT
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legendcncd
Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Dragon Age The Veilguard
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 31, 2023 7:52:41 GMT
For cloning: I have a method, which costs a lot but is "hot swappable" in a sense if my OS SSD dies, I'll throw in the other SSD I've cloned the OS disk to 4 times per year. It'll miss some stuff but nothing that really matters. 1TB SSD & 1TB SSD as backup 4TB HDD & 4TB HDD as backup
I am going to continue this with the upcoming new machine too as it'll give me the fastest route to continue audio operations.
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...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 31, 2023 9:28:31 GMT
Your options will be limited if your wanting in the low range for a motherboard to match that CPU and RAM. In my opinion your best option is the Gigabyte Z790 UD AC motherboard that natively supports both the RAM and CPU. If you were running the D14 -its likely your system was cool as ice in an ice cave since the D series can be just as good as low end watercooling. Speaking of Heatsink coolers you can save 20€ or so by getting the Thermalright Peerless Assassin instead. Its competitive against either of those others but as stated for less. For Starfield it recommends: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 for minimum and a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 for recommended settings. In terms of 3000 series that is equivalent to a RTX 3060 or a RX 6700XT. If you want a bit of head room you could go with a 3060 TI or 3070 but that is overkill. As of this typing you can get a 3060 for around $280 while a its counterpart the 6700XT is actually selling neck to neck against the 3060 TI. So to save a few get a 3060 or if you want to be more powerful then go the 3060TI. The 6700XT is super out of its element here and the obvious AMD ripoff. As to PSU I seconded the using a Seasonic one. That cooler is less than half the price of the Noctua D15! Is that correct?? I used the D14 for only a year or so. When I brought my computer to my PC guy to install another SSD because I couldn't even pull that off he somehow said that cooler is no good for my airflow and installed a Scythe top blower for like 50 bucks. I thought that was odd but I've never had any issues with my system so I shrugged it off. My PC guy is NOT a gaming PC expert, he usually does systems for office use and such. So he cleaned up the bad win 10 install a college friend did for me and overall made my system run well. Can I get an adapter for the D14 model if I bought it so long ago? According to their website I can order one for free. I hope the mounting kit fits a 2015 model... So would a D14 be sufficient at all? Read a thread that claimed a D15 would be better. But that one is super expensive. So if I can get away with reusing the D14 that would be awesome. As for GPUs: I want at least twice the frames. Isn't a 3060 about as fast as the 1080Ti I already have? For double fps I would be in the 4070Ti ballpark, I believe. The price for just 12GB is ridiculous though so I might have to make do with the 1080Ti for another year and hope Nvidia stops with their planned obsolescence scheme. But seeing how AMD is on the greed train now too and fixing the GPU market, I'm not optimistic. I hate how a 4080 is pushed at people like me who want max settings and ray tracing for a few years. I COULD afford it. But I don't want to pay cutthroat prices. Sigh. I also need a capable card for modding. Even a 4090 gets pushed to the limit by Skyrim modding, lol. Personally I just want to be able to finally play Cyberpunk (and future games) with RT at 30-60fps without DLSS for 2-3 years. I do like my games as shiny as possible but the most I ever paid for a card was 630€ for my used 1080Ti. And that was already about 150 more than I ever wanted to pay for a card... If I do upgrade this year, I'll give my old card to my ex for free most likely. He has a 1070 and is looking to upgrade as well. His needs aren't as expensive as mine though.
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...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 31, 2023 9:58:12 GMT
This is easy to do -especially with the Paid version of EaseUS. Also if you clone the drive -you would not loose data -till you format the host drive. The bad thing is -if the drive being cloned has issues: IE: corruption, multi-data, ect or exceeds the drive to be cloned to... You can get problems. However if you have this and you have games installed. Its best they are not on the same drive as windows because then the above will not only wipe the game but lead to reinstall. My games are all installed on a different SSD. However, some documents automatically install on the C: drive. Like the mod plugin file I believe. I do have backups of those. I also have my main FO4 modded data folder on a backup drive. However, if the pathing gets screwed up I can't just swap it in either. It's probably all not as complicated as I imagine to update the OS while keeping my games on the other drive. I just know too little about all of this to understand what will happen and what kind of backups I need to make. And what I need to manually fix to restore my mod setup. I get conflicting results about Win 11 being an issue with older Bethesda games. I know there were issues with 10 already and I had to do a manual fix to even run Skyrim/Fallout again. So I'll just assume it's nothing that can't be fixed. Fingers crossed. Thank you all for your input. Now I need to find somebody competent who knows how to do all this.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Mass Effect Andromeda, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by dazk on May 31, 2023 10:00:07 GMT
It says it will give the option to set it up locally do you remember if it did that and if I have OneDrive delinked for this PC I assume it will have no choice anyway yeah? Well I havent done it on Win11 so might differ. Basically at least for me on every machine, onedrive just sits there doing nothing until I open it. I use my Microsoft account to login to machines so its on every machine available, but does nothing by itself as it should.. So not really sure about "set it up locally". Delink will go away I think.. not sure. But! You can configure OneDrive what it does and to which directory, just dont let it do anything automatically Too tired and too pissed off to comment too much right now but F$%king OneDrive is unbelievable, did a fresh restart, told it to install everything locally. specifically told it not to install Onddrive (it did), delinked, deleted onedrive folders and game files still install to Onedrive "Documents" folder even though it did not exist at the time so I again end up with two damn Documents folders. A whole damn day wasted again. I have found a solution online just now but it's too late and will decide tomorrow if I can be bothered fighting it again tomorrow since I again have everything working except FMM and my MODS for MEA.
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An unknown possibly hostile flotilla detected at eight hundred astronomical units from the sun!
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legendcncd
Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Dragon Age The Veilguard
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 31, 2023 10:30:15 GMT
Too tired and too pissed off to comment too much right now but F$%king OneDrive is unbelievable, did a fresh restart, told it to install everything locally. specifically told it not to install Onddrive (it did), delinked, deleted onedrive folders and game files still install to Onedrive "Documents" folder even though it did not exist at the time so I again end up with two damn Documents folders. Oh, so the RESET does not remove ALL? Hm, unfortunately for me it all worked out, but it was early Win10. Sorry Basically one has to reinstall the machine it seems. Not that big deal today, the OS install, but the everything else especially mods now with EA App. Ugh.
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Post by dazk on May 31, 2023 10:44:50 GMT
Too tired and too pissed off to comment too much right now but F$%king OneDrive is unbelievable, did a fresh restart, told it to install everything locally. specifically told it not to install Onddrive (it did), delinked, deleted onedrive folders and game files still install to Onedrive "Documents" folder even though it did not exist at the time so I again end up with two damn Documents folders. Oh, so the RESET does not remove ALL? Hm, unfortunately for me it all worked out, but it was early Win10. Sorry Basically one has to reinstall the machine it seems. Not that big deal today, the OS install, but the everything else especially mods now with EA App. Ugh. No the reset does remove it all it is just when you tell it to install everything locally and to NOT install Onedrive it does install it I believe because Onedrive in Windows 11 from what I read tonight is part of Windows Defenders "back Up" security function in case of damn Ransom Ware or something. You basically have to let it install it. then go in and turn it all off (folder by folder and repoint files) and go through several other steps then delink it so it doesn't keep automatically backing stuff up even though the damned thing isn't even technically installed. I need to decide tomorrow whether I can be bothered or just work around it, I wasted at least 8 hours today on it again.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on May 31, 2023 10:56:43 GMT
I need to decide tomorrow whether I can be bothered or just work around it, I wasted at least 8 hours today on it again. I am looking forward to get my new machine but I am NOT looking ahead the license rhumba of uninstall/install. I can understand.
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Post by rewindbutton on May 31, 2023 12:11:37 GMT
Isn't a 3060 about as fast as the 1080Ti I already have? Sorry, couldn't resist! Your 1080Ti is faster than the 3060. Yes, that's how graphics cards 'evolve' these days. A 3070 would be tad faster, and a 3080 is a lot faster than your 1080Ti. A RTX 4070 Ti would probably be my choice.
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Post by bmwcrazy on May 31, 2023 16:15:13 GMT
See my previous post. Most Z790's are going to require a Bios flash to be updated to use that CPU. The one I link NATIVELY supports 13th Gen. All Z790, H770, and B760 support 13th-gen Intel chip natively without any BIOS update.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 18:33:43 GMT
See my previous post. Most Z790's are going to require a Bios flash to be updated to use that CPU. The one I link NATIVELY supports 13th Gen. All Z790, H770, and B760 support 13th-gen Intel chip natively without any BIOS update. Sorry. You are right -I was misled about that fact by Amazon and Newegg that only say 12th Gen on most of their board offerings. That said... Kappa Neko that Gigabyte board is still the best money to performance ratio I think you will get without having to shell out over 200. There are others cheaper but they most likely would not last a decade of use -its still true: You get what you pay for.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 18:36:15 GMT
Your options will be limited if your wanting in the low range for a motherboard to match that CPU and RAM. In my opinion your best option is the Gigabyte Z790 UD AC motherboard that natively supports both the RAM and CPU. If you were running the D14 -its likely your system was cool as ice in an ice cave since the D series can be just as good as low end watercooling. Speaking of Heatsink coolers you can save 20€ or so by getting the Thermalright Peerless Assassin instead. Its competitive against either of those others but as stated for less. For Starfield it recommends: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 for minimum and a NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 for recommended settings. In terms of 3000 series that is equivalent to a RTX 3060 or a RX 6700XT. If you want a bit of head room you could go with a 3060 TI or 3070 but that is overkill. As of this typing you can get a 3060 for around $280 while a its counterpart the 6700XT is actually selling neck to neck against the 3060 TI. So to save a few get a 3060 or if you want to be more powerful then go the 3060TI. The 6700XT is super out of its element here and the obvious AMD ripoff. As to PSU I seconded the using a Seasonic one. That cooler is less than half the price of the Noctua D15! Is that correct?? I used the D14 for only a year or so. When I brought my computer to my PC guy to install another SSD because I couldn't even pull that off he somehow said that cooler is no good for my airflow and installed a Scythe top blower for like 50 bucks. I thought that was odd but I've never had any issues with my system so I shrugged it off. My PC guy is NOT a gaming PC expert, he usually does systems for office use and such. So he cleaned up the bad win 10 install a college friend did for me and overall made my system run well. Can I get an adapter for the D14 model if I bought it so long ago? According to their website I can order one for free. I hope the mounting kit fits a 2015 model... So would a D14 be sufficient at all? Read a thread that claimed a D15 would be better. But that one is super expensive. So if I can get away with reusing the D14 that would be awesome. You can but the D14 is quite old and considering how power hungry the 13700k is... You may end up with a CPU in constant High temperatures. https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/zrxqns/i7_13700k_100c_peaks_thermal_throttling_under_load/www.news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33743356I suggested that Heatsink because its cheaper than other items but still packs a wallop.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 18:36:32 GMT
As for GPUs: I want at least twice the frames. Isn't a 3060 about as fast as the 1080Ti I already have? For double fps I would be in the 4070Ti ballpark, I believe. The price for just 12GB is ridiculous though so I might have to make do with the 1080Ti for another year and hope Nvidia stops with their planned obsolescence scheme. But seeing how AMD is on the greed train now too and fixing the GPU market, I'm not optimistic. I hate how a 4080 is pushed at people like me who want max settings and ray tracing for a few years. I COULD afford it. But I don't want to pay cutthroat prices. Sigh. I also need a capable card for modding. Even a 4090 gets pushed to the limit by Skyrim modding, lol. Personally I just want to be able to finally play Cyberpunk (and future games) with RT at 30-60fps without DLSS for 2-3 years. I do like my games as shiny as possible but the most I ever paid for a card was 630€ for my used 1080Ti. And that was already about 150 more than I ever wanted to pay for a card... If I do upgrade this year, I'll give my old card to my ex for free most likely. He has a 1070 and is looking to upgrade as well. His needs aren't as expensive as mine though. Twice the frames? Ok I will get on that shortly and yes the 3060 is just a little slower than the 1080TI according to here: hwbench.com/vgas/geforce-rtx-3060-vs-geforce-gtx-1080-tiI was looking at a possible GPU that would give the PC longevity for another decade especially since your considering to play with RT. That usually means something close to top of the line and not to old and I wasn't sure of the budget. However if you have plans are for a 4000 series I will concede that the lowest card that gives that good of frames is the 4070 TI. Though it most likely would be triple the frames not double -would need a 3080 12 GB for that -especially if modding in 4K. Currently the 4070TI that are on Amazon are around $800-$850. I don't know how good going from a 256-bit bus to a 192-bit bus will fare for you. Some can see a difference whille -others not so much. Now I know you want to give it for free but if you were to ask even 250 for the 1080TI that would get close to the 800/850 needed.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 18:36:49 GMT
This is easy to do -especially with the Paid version of EaseUS. Also if you clone the drive -you would not loose data -till you format the host drive. The bad thing is -if the drive being cloned has issues: IE: corruption, multi-data, ect or exceeds the drive to be cloned to... You can get problems. However if you have this and you have games installed. Its best they are not on the same drive as windows because then the above will not only wipe the game but lead to reinstall. My games are all installed on a different SSD. However, some documents automatically install on the C: drive. Like the mod plugin file I believe. I do have backups of those. I also have my main FO4 modded data folder on a backup drive. However, if the pathing gets screwed up I can't just swap it in either. It's probably all not as complicated as I imagine to update the OS while keeping my games on the other drive. I just know too little about all of this to understand what will happen and what kind of backups I need to make. And what I need to manually fix to restore my mod setup. I get conflicting results about Win 11 being an issue with older Bethesda games. I know there were issues with 10 already and I had to do a manual fix to even run Skyrim/Fallout again. So I'll just assume it's nothing that can't be fixed. Fingers crossed. Thank you all for your input. Now I need to find somebody competent who knows how to do all this. As someone who ran mods in F4 you want to back up your Documents folder, F4 and the AppData subfolder: Local -this is where the mod manager and F4 mod information is stored.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 18:37:12 GMT
Oh, so the RESET does not remove ALL? Hm, unfortunately for me it all worked out, but it was early Win10. Sorry Basically one has to reinstall the machine it seems. Not that big deal today, the OS install, but the everything else especially mods now with EA App. Ugh. No the reset does remove it all it is just when you tell it to install everything locally and to NOT install Onedrive it does install it I believe because Onedrive in Windows 11 from what I read tonight is part of Windows Defenders "back Up" security function in case of damn Ransom Ware or something. You basically have to let it install it. then go in and turn it all off (folder by folder and repoint files) and go through several other steps then delink it so it doesn't keep automatically backing stuff up even though the damned thing isn't even technically installed. I need to decide tomorrow whether I can be bothered or just work around it, I wasted at least 8 hours today on it again. The RESET does what the name implies I would assume. As in resets the OS so everything that was installed initially gets reinstalled thus One Drive is added.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on May 31, 2023 18:37:51 GMT
Well I havent done it on Win11 so might differ. Basically at least for me on every machine, onedrive just sits there doing nothing until I open it. I use my Microsoft account to login to machines so its on every machine available, but does nothing by itself as it should.. So not really sure about "set it up locally". Delink will go away I think.. not sure. But! You can configure OneDrive what it does and to which directory, just dont let it do anything automatically Too tired and too pissed off to comment too much right now but F$%king OneDrive is unbelievable, did a fresh restart, told it to install everything locally. specifically told it not to install Onddrive (it did), delinked, deleted onedrive folders and game files still install to Onedrive "Documents" folder even though it did not exist at the time so I again end up with two damn Documents folders. A whole damn day wasted again. I have found a solution online just now but it's too late and will decide tomorrow if I can be bothered fighting it again tomorrow since I again have everything working except FMM and my MODS for MEA. Another solution to get Documents away from One Drive: Unless it no longer works.....
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