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Post by Hrulj on Feb 17, 2021 4:33:46 GMT
I think everyone has heard the 20 kilo ferrous slug speech by gunnery chief in Mass Effect 2. So I thought I’d give it a test and see if it’s correct in terms of math. Suffice to say BioWare is wrong by the orders of magnitude that beggar imagination. As a simple sample a single gram of tungsten carbide launched at 1.3% the speed of light produces 7590000000J of energy. Yes, a rifle round from typical mass effect weapon releases the energy of 30 360 hand grenades going off at the same time. For simple reference a typical hand grenade produces 250 000J in its explosion. For those on the imperial system there are 1000 grams in a kilogram or 20000 grams in the supposed slug for a Mass Effect dreadnought. Which would yield 152 kilotons of energy per shot rather than 38.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 17, 2021 12:13:24 GMT
Actually, being wrong by a factor of around 10 is pretty good in this franchise. I remember back on the old forums, when we used an online impact calculator to try and figure out the effect, the quarian ship to surface bombardment of that reaper destroyer on Rannoch in ME3 should have had. In short, That entire area, including Shepard should have been a giant ball of plasma.  Just don't go into ME lore with numbers. IIRC, the Normandy's drive usually changes the value of c by a factor of about 40.000 and biotics can generate miniature black holes on the energy equivalent of a potato battery. So yea, just never bring a calculator near Mass Effect. |
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Post by capn233 on Mar 13, 2021 0:21:36 GMT
This is a little old, but I just saw it. Using regular E=1/2*m*v^2
= 1/2* 20kg * (2.998x10^8 m/s)^2
E = 1.52 x 10^14 joules "kilotons" (like in bombs) refers to TNT equivalent, which is 4.184x10^12 J. This is roughly the energy released blowing up a kiloton of TNT. So I get 36.3 kiloton yield after converting the J to TNT equivalent. Using relativistic KE, I get basically the same thing since it is only 1.3% c so that effect isn't big. I would guess rounding is at fault here, if you use 4x10^12J as the TNT kiloton equivalent, you get 37.98 kilotons.
*added the numbers in KE
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Mar 13, 2021 20:30:27 GMT
Actually, being wrong by a factor of around 10 is pretty good in this franchise. I remember back on the old forums, when we used an online impact calculator to try and figure out the effect, the quarian ship to surface bombardment of that reaper destroyer on Rannoch in ME3 should have had. In short, That entire area, including Shepard should have been a giant ball of plasma. Just don't go into ME lore with numbers. IIRC, the Normandy's drive usually changes the value of c by a factor of about 40.000 and biotics can generate miniature black holes on the energy equivalent of a potato battery. So yea, just never bring a calculator near Mass Effect. Yeah just enjoy the story for what it is don't bring mahts into it.
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Post by Sonya on Mar 14, 2021 10:27:19 GMT
I remember back on the old forums, when we used an online impact calculator to try and figure out the effect, the quarian ship to surface bombardment of that reaper destroyer on Rannoch in ME3 should have had. In short, That entire area, including Shepard should have been a giant ball of plasma. Just don't go into ME lore with numbers. IIRC, the Normandy's drive usually changes the value of c by a factor of about 40.000 and biotics can generate miniature black holes on the energy equivalent of a potato battery. So yea, just never bring a calculator near Mass Effect. Aren't opinions about "Legion/geth can't die as just can backup themselves" from the same category? Not about pure weapon calculations and plasma balls, though from a certain angle somewhere close to "never bring calculator near ME". |
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