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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 25, 2021 18:51:36 GMT
In terms of how it is marketed? In DAO most of the marketing material (cinematic and gameplay trailers) included a Cousland warrior in heavy plate armor, for DA 2 they featured a mage Hawke rocking the champion mage gear, and for DAI it was mostly a Trevelyan warrior with a great sword with a fire enchantment on it while wearing battlemaster mail armor. Well since DA4 appears to be a more spy oriented and strike from the shadows type of game for the cloak and dagger types it is likely when they start marketing the protagonist it will be a shadowy rogue. So rogue fans are you excited for this one?
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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Mar 25, 2021 20:39:15 GMT
I'm intrigued to see how gunpowder will be implemented in DA4 - because from looking at the party concept art, it seems one of them is wielding a big ass blunderbuster on their back.
That means it's likely gonna be apart of all 3 current classes, or now we a distinct 4th class for Gunslingers? It would definitely change the whole meta if it was the latter, they'd probably have to bump the active party to 5 to account for it.
O know that really doesn't answer the whole rogue thing - but if it's the former above then what would be the purpose of bows and arrows on the series? They'd be outpaced. Same with duel knives
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 25, 2021 20:48:28 GMT
I'm intrigued to see how gunpowder will be implemented in DA4 - because from looking at the party concept art, it seems one of them is wielding a big ass blunderbuster on their back. That means it's likely gonna be apart of all 3 current classes, or now we a distinct 4th class for Gunslingers? It would definitely change the whole meta if it was the latter, they'd probably have to bump the active party to 5 to account for it. O know that really doesn't answer the whole rogue thing - but if it's the former above then what would be the purpose of bows and arrows on the series? They'd be outpaced. Same with duel knives You can fire a lot more arrows a minute than you can early guns. I could see it being like bows vs crossbows in DAO, where one is faster but less damage and the other slower but more damage. As for dual knives, considering soldiers today still train in and carry knives I don’t see them being outpaced. Plus for all we know we don’t get guns, but only that character does like Varric with crossbows in DA2/I
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 25, 2021 20:50:54 GMT
As for will rogues be the poster class, possibly. The one trailer that showed characters showed mostly rogues, between the knife weirder in the ally or the forest archer and so on.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 25, 2021 22:16:51 GMT
It is something that is a big ? for me on how this will be handled. It looks like this is indeed going to be the case that the game will focus on more espionage elements I do wonder how this will effect warriors and mages who aren't typically known for stealth and sabotage. Though to this point I think from a marketing standpoint we already kind of have our answer. We have been seeing A. a fair bit of characters who give off the air of belonging to one of the classes, our lady mage recently revealed, warriors both in what is probably the Anderfels and the DA artwork of the three characters, rogues like the guy sipping whine on Antiva, the bow hunter in the forest, and the guy pursuing that one guy on the streets of minrathous....yes such precice descriptions. But I really cannot help but think they are giving us a fair balance of all three classes to this point.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Mar 25, 2021 22:30:11 GMT
I was gonna play a rogue on the first run-through anyway, but I'm sort-of hoping that the Veil will come down in the opening of the game and unleash everyone's latent magic abilities and we'll get to mix-and-match.
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Post by xerrai on Mar 25, 2021 22:43:55 GMT
I'm intrigued to see how gunpowder will be implemented in DA4 - because from looking at the party concept art, it seems one of them is wielding a big ass blunderbuster on their back. That means it's likely gonna be apart of all 3 current classes, or now we a distinct 4th class for Gunslingers? It would definitely change the whole meta if it was the latter, they'd probably have to bump the active party to 5 to account for it. O know that really doesn't answer the whole rogue thing - but if it's the former above then what would be the purpose of bows and arrows on the series? They'd be outpaced. Same with duel knives As far as I know, gunpowder is a Qunari invention, and the means to make it is one of their most heavily guarded secrets. And they use it for cannons and explosives, not guns. The rest of Thedas by comparison have only just recently gotten a repeating crossbow, and Varric all but confirmed he doesn't want them to be mass produced due to how it would revolutionize conflict. So guns a little ways off from them unless they decipher techniques from or steal recipes from the qunari. And we all know how iron-clad they are when it comes to giving potential enemies an edge. That said, having one companion using that tech may be a possibility if they have Varric-like connections or got lucky and stole a qunari prototype. But I wouldn't expect a 'gunslinger class'. Even if the powers that be did steal the tech from the qunari, I can't see how the development and use of guns would be that widespread.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 25, 2021 22:48:19 GMT
I'm intrigued to see how gunpowder will be implemented in DA4 - because from looking at the party concept art, it seems one of them is wielding a big ass blunderbuster on their back. That means it's likely gonna be apart of all 3 current classes, or now we a distinct 4th class for Gunslingers? It would definitely change the whole meta if it was the latter, they'd probably have to bump the active party to 5 to account for it. O know that really doesn't answer the whole rogue thing - but if it's the former above then what would be the purpose of bows and arrows on the series? They'd be outpaced. Same with duel knives As far as I know, gunpowder is a Qunari invention, and the means to make it is one of their most heavily guarded secrets. And they use it for cannons and explosives, not guns. The rest of Thedas by comparison have only just recently gotten a repeating crossbow, and Varric all but confirmed he doesn't want them to be mass produced due to how it would revolutionize conflict. So guns a little ways off from them unless they decipher techniques from or steal recipes from the qunari. And we all know how iron-clad they are when it comes to giving potential enemies an edge. That said, having one companion using that tech may be a possibility if they have Varric-like connections or got lucky and stole a qunari prototype. But I wouldn't expect a 'gunslinger class'. Even if the powers that be did steal the tech from the qunari, I can't see how the development and use of guns would be that widespread. Or is an Executor, or has connections to them. The Qunari are the only ones with gunpowder in Thedas, but that doesn't necessarily apply to the rest of the world.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Mar 26, 2021 16:09:40 GMT
Talking about what class and armor style will be used primarily in marketing and for cover art. Not whether or not we get a hold of some gatlock.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Mar 30, 2021 12:57:40 GMT
If the playerhero is really a Lord of Fortune like in the first version of DA 4 well it would the most sense that Bioware use the rogue to promote this Lord of Fortune. So the next question dagger or archer rogue? I think dagger rogue is more likely because its fits more with the stealth aspect.
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Post by legbamel on Mar 30, 2021 14:21:02 GMT
Or they could bring back switchaable weapon sets and we could be both!
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Apr 1, 2021 12:04:07 GMT
Welp the people in the trailer were a hooded figure wielding a dagger in an dark alley, a dark hooded figure sitting on a roof, and figure sneaking through the woods with a bow and their face concealed.
And the concept art also had a couple of pieces with a party trying to sneak up/pull shenanigans. The crow lady, lots of crow armour about really, the arcane Archer in that Twitter post etc.
So, probably?
On the other hand theres that pair of armoured boots in the trailer that most likely belong to a warrior and there was also a concept art of a party facing a giant sea-god-monster, a warrior shielding a woman, and the most recent concept art was a mage.
So it might vary, though it wouldn't surprise me if rogues got the most spotlight.
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Post by bigj01 on Apr 3, 2021 22:33:38 GMT
This little piece of dialogue from Varric in the trailer just screams rogue class to me:
“The kind of person they’ll never see coming...”
I have a feeling the rogue class will be the big one in the marketing this time around, Origins and Inquisition were pretty heavy on the warrior class while DA2 was pretty heavy on the mage class if I’m remembering correctly for all three games, so this might be the rogue’s time to shine.
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