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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Apr 30, 2021 20:01:06 GMT
But what about all those rumours about Batarian Children? O.o
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 20:05:22 GMT
I know nothing about making video games, but how hard would it be to add multiplayer to LE later on down the line if they wished too?
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Post by larsdt on May 1, 2021 0:53:26 GMT
I know nothing about making video games, but how hard would it be to add multiplayer to LE later on down the line if they wished too? It shouldn't be a tech issue. The story from Bioware is the work load would be equivalent to that of updating ME1 to the LE. It would seem the higher-ups at EA/Bioware do not think the MP component will increase the sales of MELE. Hence, it can't be justified to spend that amount of time on it.
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Post by XCPTNL on May 2, 2021 10:38:10 GMT
I wish they would have included it. Then I'd get it for sure. Too bad they didn't and I can't see why. Yes, it means more work like larsdt mentioned but it's not like the MP was dead on arrival or anything. It is still being played 9 years after the release of the game and seeing people ask about the servers shutting down in the official forums should be a slight indication that it would have been worth it to add MP as well in the LE. One might argue that they probably looked at the number of active players over the years and checked how many people paid or are still paying for boxes but given Bioware's lack of expertise in some areas of game development I'm not so sure they even went this obvious route and checked at all.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:11:23 GMT
I wish they would have included it. Then I'd get it for sure. Too bad they didn't and I can't see why. Yes, it means more work like larsdt mentioned but it's not like the MP was dead on arrival or anything. It is still being played 9 years after the release of the game and seeing people ask about the servers shutting down in the official forums should be a slight indication that it would have been worth it to add MP as well in the LE. One might argue that they probably looked at the number of active players over the years and checked how many people paid or are still paying for boxes but given Bioware's lack of expertise in some areas of game development I'm not so sure they even went this obvious route and checked at all. Here's the real issue: The current version of MP is no longer monetizable on PC, due to console access and cheat codes. This is the current dominant platform for the game. Sure, they could make money off of the console peasants for their Spectre Packs, but they must have done some math and realized that even in the best case scenario, that wasn't going to make money. Console access was a mistake! The store they made was a bigger mistake though. Give the store bulk purchasing options FFS, close the console access, and voila MP can make money again from whales and we can keep outscoring them.
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Post by ALTBOULI on May 2, 2021 20:47:51 GMT
They should have just included the current MP3 multiplayer with the legendary edition and added cross play so the console scrubs could play with the PC cheats. That would have been incentive enough for a lot of people to get the legendary edition.
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Post by XCPTNL on May 2, 2021 20:49:04 GMT
Give the store bulk purchasing options FFS, close the console access, and voila MP can make money again from whales and we can keep outscoring them. Which is what they could have done with the LE if they had included MP in it...
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Post by Tonymac on May 3, 2021 10:10:21 GMT
While they are at it, they could include the year of Dev support and do the Weekly Ops again. Hell, even I might get the LE if they did that
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Post by Mobius Y on May 3, 2021 17:39:34 GMT
What kills me is the reasoning behind not touching up Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer for the Legendary Edition, it was literally “makin’ vidjya gaimez is hard”.
Of course it’s fucking hard, yet you dingledongles still did it ten years ago on now-obsolete hardware! Fuck off.
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Post by XCPTNL on May 4, 2021 18:42:55 GMT
What kills me is the reasoning behind not touching up Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer for the Legendary Edition, it was literally “makin’ vidjya gaimez is hard”. Of course it’s fucking hard, yet you dingledongles still did it ten years ago on now-obsolete hardware! Fuck off. The thing is though... they pretty much fucked up in one way or another with every game they made since then. And if I remember correctly the ME3MP was outsourced back then and done by a different team/studio and Bioware only did the updates and nerfs and such. Maybe the DLCs, not quite sure though. But yes, I agree with you... the reasoning is pretty lame. In other news: there is a master collection coming soon for Ninja Gaiden and they removed the online coop part in the second game and the online part in the third game as well. So it's a thing apparently to go this route. Unfortunately they are including Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 in the collection and not the original Ninja Gaiden 2 which was soooo much better. But the online coop in Sigma 2 was fun so I'm sad to see it won't be included.
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Post by ALTBOULI on May 4, 2021 22:10:22 GMT
What kills me is the reasoning behind not touching up Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer for the Legendary Edition, it was literally “makin’ vidjya gaimez is hard”. Of course it’s fucking hard, yet you dingledongles still did it ten years ago on now-obsolete hardware! Fuck off. The thing is though... they pretty much fucked up in one way or another with every game they made since then. And if I remember correctly the ME3MP was outsourced back then and done by a different team/studio and Bioware only did the updates and nerfs and such. Maybe the DLCs, not quite sure though. But yes, I agree with you... the reasoning is pretty lame. In other news: there is a master collection coming soon for Ninja Gaiden and they removed the online coop part in the second game and the online part in the third game as well. So it's a thing apparently to go this route. Unfortunately they are including Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 in the collection and not the original Ninja Gaiden 2 which was soooo much better. But the online coop in Sigma 2 was fun so I'm sad to see it won't be included. Ninja Garden 2, now that was a hard game, never managed to finish it on path of the master ninja but did all the other difficulties. I laugh when people say demon/dark souls/Bloodborne is the hardest game/series they played. Ninja Gaiden 2 makes those games feel like bronze difficulty. Shame they messed up the 3rd game...
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Post by andy_3_913 on May 5, 2021 5:43:40 GMT
What kills me is the reasoning behind not touching up Mass Effect 3’s multiplayer for the Legendary Edition, it was literally “makin’ vidjya gaimez is hard”. Of course it’s fucking hard, yet you dingledongles still did it ten years ago on now-obsolete hardware! Fuck off. The thing is though... they pretty much fucked up in one way or another with every game they made since then. And if I remember correctly the ME3MP was outsourced back then and done by a different team/studio and Bioware only did the updates and nerfs and such. Maybe the DLCs, not quite sure though. But yes, I agree with you... the reasoning is pretty lame. In other news: there is a master collection coming soon for Ninja Gaiden and they removed the online coop part in the second game and the online part in the third game as well. So it's a thing apparently to go this route. Unfortunately they are including Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 in the collection and not the original Ninja Gaiden 2 which was soooo much better. But the online coop in Sigma 2 was fun so I'm sad to see it won't be included. www.psyonix.com/Under company history.
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Post by Heroicmass on May 5, 2021 19:33:04 GMT
The thing is though... they pretty much fucked up in one way or another with every game they made since then. And if I remember correctly the ME3MP was outsourced back then and done by a different team/studio and Bioware only did the updates and nerfs and such. Maybe the DLCs, not quite sure though. But yes, I agree with you... the reasoning is pretty lame. In other news: there is a master collection coming soon for Ninja Gaiden and they removed the online coop part in the second game and the online part in the third game as well. So it's a thing apparently to go this route. Unfortunately they are including Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 in the collection and not the original Ninja Gaiden 2 which was soooo much better. But the online coop in Sigma 2 was fun so I'm sad to see it won't be included. Ninja Garden 2, now that was a hard game, never managed to finish it on path of the master ninja but did all the other difficulties. I laugh when people say demon/dark souls/Bloodborne is the hardest game/series they played. Ninja Gaiden 2 makes those games feel like bronze difficulty. Shame they messed up the 3rd game... ninja gaiden 2 master ninja still gives me headaches thinking about it. I didn't know you could possibly have so many explosive shurikens stuck in you at once until playing that game
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Post by ALTBOULI on May 5, 2021 20:51:51 GMT
Ninja Garden 2, now that was a hard game, never managed to finish it on path of the master ninja but did all the other difficulties. I laugh when people say demon/dark souls/Bloodborne is the hardest game/series they played. Ninja Gaiden 2 makes those games feel like bronze difficulty. Shame they messed up the 3rd game... ninja gaiden 2 master ninja still gives me headaches thinking about it. I didn't know you could possibly have so many explosive shurikens stuck in you at once until playing that game Lol yup the first level is basically the hardest because of those explosive shurikans. Remember the turtle/armadillo thing that blew up and would insta-kill you after u killed it (if you didn't run like hell when its health reaches 0)
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Post by DoctorDAM on May 12, 2021 19:46:30 GMT
Update on MP and Legendary Edition. It's sort of a non-news news. LINKBetter than a "no, that door is closed", but not much.
"what kind of reception LE gets and what the demand for MP is" - "reception"= sales? Implication: I guess more sales may imply more budget to add MP, but that's not enough bait to get me to buy. And how do they gauge demand for MP via MP-less LE? Hope to get LE purchasers to call for extra-cost MP DLC?
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Post by regack on May 12, 2021 20:03:00 GMT
I'd buy JUST the MP for ... well, I'd probably pay $60 because I'm an idiot, but at $10-20 I wouldn't even give it a second thought. Anything higher than that though and I'd have higher expectations. If they would just update the visuals/lighting/effects and have widescreen support built in, fix some of the long standing bugs, and improve the 'store' experience, that would be great. Ideally they'd add in the unfinished maps, and maybe even open up the pre & post change maps as additional options.
Personally I've always wanted a mode with fewer waves, but challenges/objectives every other wave... and it would be great to have more enemies on the map at once. I did enjoy Arkhne's modded lobbies. Imagine if you could build those inside the game with custom modes?
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Post by burningcherry on May 12, 2021 20:15:29 GMT
I'll believe that when I see Bioware-implemented support for SP mods.
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Post by ALTBOULI on May 12, 2021 23:51:22 GMT
Update on MP and Legendary Edition. It's sort of a non-news news. LINKBetter than a "no, that door is closed", but not much.
"what kind of reception LE gets and what the demand for MP is" - "reception"= sales? Implication: I guess more sales may imply more budget to add MP, but that's not enough bait to get me to buy. And how do they gauge demand for MP via MP-less LE? Hope to get LE purchasers to call for extra-cost MP DLC? It won't happen, they won't support this release anymore than they need to. The skeptic in me believes that this is merely an opportunity to try and get the fans back on their side given how disappointing the last few games have been. If there is any mp it will be with the next Mass effect game
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Post by Heroicmass on May 12, 2021 23:56:39 GMT
I only want it back if they bring back weekly balance changes. I need that in my life again
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Post by Tonymac on May 13, 2021 10:11:59 GMT
I only want it back if they bring back weekly balance changes. I need that in my life again F'in masochist..... I mean that is the best possible way, of course - and absolutely no disrespect. In my memory, those were the darkest of days. Every new gun that was released was Spectacular! I remember the old Typhoon, the Piranha, the Krysae.... and a slew of others. This was all by intention, of course. Basically all that the developers did was nerf every weapon and smurf every new kit about a week (give or take) after it was released. This was probably amazingly profitable, because a slew of players wanted to keep up with us in terms of raw DPS and topping the Whoreboards.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 14:34:18 GMT
In my memory, those were the darkest of days. Every new gun that was released was Spectacular! I remember the old Typhoon, the Piranha, the Krysae.... and a slew of others. This was all by intention, of course. Basically all that the developers did was nerf every weapon and smurf every new kit about a week (give or take) after it was released. This was probably amazingly profitable, because a slew of players wanted to keep up with us in terms of raw DPS and topping the Whoreboards. Hello there! At first I thought you too were also a scrub. You see, those indeed were the darkest of days, for me, for different reasons. Poor reasons, like stingy Volus won't pay me creds on the regs poor. Like can only afford Veteran and JEP mostly, and then have a million dollar disappointment at the end of the day. The RNG was unusually cruel to me (which according to our community knowledge really was nasty cruel comparitively, sigh). Meanwhile, players like yourself had all the guns and got to use them before they were nerfed. I didn't even get a Krysae before it was nerfed. Never experienced any gun in its original glory, because I sucked so hard at this game I occasionally tasted Marauder Shields. So, because I am a monacled veteran now of measurable skill, pretty much smack dab in the middle of our gallery of mercs - a scrub of worth, always a scrub - I support this petition for bringing back balance changes. This could even be theoretical, just have someone make a Fagnan toon here and start posting them changes. We are meta enough to take that somewhere; we are good at feigning outrage and stuff. Also, 1v1 me babby
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Post by Tonymac on May 14, 2021 13:41:23 GMT
In my memory, those were the darkest of days. Every new gun that was released was Spectacular! I remember the old Typhoon, the Piranha, the Krysae.... and a slew of others. This was all by intention, of course. Basically all that the developers did was nerf every weapon and smurf every new kit about a week (give or take) after it was released. This was probably amazingly profitable, because a slew of players wanted to keep up with us in terms of raw DPS and topping the Whoreboards. Hello there! At first I thought you too were also a scrub. You see, those indeed were the darkest of days, for me, for different reasons. Poor reasons, like stingy Volus won't pay me creds on the regs poor. Like can only afford Veteran and JEP mostly, and then have a million dollar disappointment at the end of the day. The RNG was unusually cruel to me (which according to our community knowledge really was nasty cruel comparitively, sigh). Meanwhile, players like yourself had all the guns and got to use them before they were nerfed. I didn't even get a Krysae before it was nerfed. Never experienced any gun in its original glory, because I sucked so hard at this game I occasionally tasted Marauder Shields. So, because I am a monacled veteran now of measurable skill, pretty much smack dab in the middle of our gallery of mercs - a scrub of worth, always a scrub - I support this petition for bringing back balance changes. This could even be theoretical, just have someone make a Fagnan toon here and start posting them changes. We are meta enough to take that somewhere; we are good at feigning outrage and stuff. Also, 1v1 me babby Me?! I'm the scrubbiest of scrubs that ever pugged his way through the Galaxy. (Quoting Jeremy Irons in Margin Call) There's a few ways to make it in this business: 1) Be Smarter, 2) Be First, or 3) Cheat - and I don't cheat. So, how did I make it into the lofty realm of top hat, twirled mustache, monocle and Tiffany cufflinks? It's pretty simple, really. I have over 4500 hours played in the course of over 16,800 games. I got off of work at 1:30 PM and was playing from 2 PM until 8 or 9 PM every single night of the work week. Guess where my weekends were spent? That's right, fighting the Reaper War in Pugland. Like the song goes by Stevie Ray Vaughan - I am stranded, caught in the Crossfire! So many Wave 11 disconnects, dumbasses with rockets, Krogan that don't return headbutts, Reegar Vanguardians, snap cheesers, Fire Base White in full Blood Rage - you know the deal. I've actually revived people so many times that they left the game - it still makes me laugh. I still play the game because its just so fun. You queue it up, load up your kit, and watch fools put armor penetration on a damn Scorpion II and think, "yeah, this is gonna be fun." I certainly had fun, my teammates not so much. Some days you have to cook fools in the Hazard Reactor. Other days you Reave a few low health Posessed A-Boms from across the map and slink off while laughing like a maniac. Most days I'm not like that, but I have been known to murder my whole team if they annoy me enough. Recently this has changed somewhat though - there are not as many players around. I guess the Genophage has run its course, and we have to treat every person as special. Solos really aren't that fun, even if the saying goes that in sex and poker you don't need a partner if you have a good hand.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 14:37:12 GMT
A gentleman, to be sure!
My challenges/N7HQ were broken for nearly a year, but I still somehow have 3600hrs, so not so far behind you.
I didn't max my manifest for the last time until 1300hrs. All I played was Gold, then plat when it was available.
My main issue is that I bought too many JEPs and wouldn't spend my last dime on a SP because I wanted to be a good teammate who had gel and rockets.
Gel and Rockets.... why have none of us started this band? There's even sex in it!
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Post by Alfonsedode on May 17, 2021 15:47:32 GMT
u guys find it too difficult to launch ME3 for MP or MELE for SP ? Cause even included, MP wouldnt have been fixed in any way. Is ME3 even modifided in MELE ?
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