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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 13, 2021 12:04:31 GMT
I must say so far everything in the LE that I have seen seems really good looking. Some millage may obviously vary and even I am not thrilled with everything one hundred percent yet. Yes Kelly looks a bit weird and yes the lens flares seem over done at parts...which is more of a joke anyways...just overall though? I am really surprised. Given that they had to work with a game that is basically ten years old at this point for the base and given they still had to use Unreal 3 and not upgrade to 4 pretty much everything I have seen, which admittedly has not been much, just looks like a pretty much across the board improvement. I am actually quite impressed. Yeah everything I've seen looks great to me so far been giving me the itch to play again. I ewatched a couple o f vids yesterday of it. That fl ypast at the start of ME1 when it's headed through tha tfirst mass relay looked friggin awesome. I will admit it's made me moer inclined to get it though I still will hold off for now as I want to focus on other things first. Bu tas soon as I know I have the chea tavailasble for the geth cannon I suspect I'll want to jump in.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 13:17:06 GMT
When we have this wonderful remaster, I'm not sure why these two characters 'looks' are a hill we want to die on? For starters, it’s because she is my favorite character in the trilogy and one of my favorite BioWare characters in general. I’m sure you wouldn’t be happy if they ruined your favorite.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 13:28:31 GMT
Why did they feel the need to redo Kelly of all people? Different eyes, nose, lips, hairdo, everything, and it doesn't look like much of an improvement to me. Kelly is in ME2 and ME3, both of which were made using the Unreal 3 engine, so there's not even a technical reason for the redesign. Who knows, maybe Kelly's original model is in the barn with Pinnacle Station. Considering they made new hairstyles though, they could have remade hers. And why make her a brunette instead of her orange hair, when they could have at least used the same red as default femshep. Or is red and orange hair no longer available either?
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Post by shermos on May 13, 2021 13:54:37 GMT
Why did they feel the need to redo Kelly of all people? Different eyes, nose, lips, hairdo, everything, and it doesn't look like much of an improvement to me. Kelly is in ME2 and ME3, both of which were made using the Unreal 3 engine, so there's not even a technical reason for the redesign. Who knows, maybe Kelly's original model is in the barn with Pinnacle Station. Considering they made new hairstyles though, they could have remade hers. And why make her a brunette instead of her orange hair, when they could have at least used the same red as default femshep. Or is red and orange hair no longer available either?
I get why you're upset. It's like Bioware thinks the fanbase is too stupid to tell two redheads apart, which won't be an issue in the vast majority of play throughs anyway. Do you play on PC? 90% chance there will be a mod to fix this fairly soon.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 13:58:40 GMT
Considering they made new hairstyles though, they could have remade hers. And why make her a brunette instead of her orange hair, when they could have at least used the same red as default femshep. Or is red and orange hair no longer available either?
I get why you're upset. It's like Bioware thinks the fanbase is too stupid to tell two redheads apart, which won't be an issue in the vast majority of play throughs anyway. Do you play on PC? 90% chance there will be a mod to fix this fairly soon.
No, I don’t play on PC. My only hope at this point is that enough of a stir is kicked up that BioWare patches it.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 14:00:26 GMT
Pressly changed? How? Ugh this fandom. Do you ever think about what you're saying before you spout shit like this? Ugh you. You are absolutely deep in this fandom, we all know this. Because this particular hair issue isn't an issue for you, you get to blithely dismiss it and also trash anyone who does care with a trite little ugh. Which is it colf, are you a part of this fandom or no? Is this a self-deprecation that I have misunderstood, and you were nodding with a smile and a head shake, "ugh this fandom - that's me too and I know it heh"? Or do you find yourself above such things, to a point where you can dismiss literally most of the forum with one cheeky phrase? Ugh indeed.
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Post by shermos on May 13, 2021 14:08:30 GMT
I get why you're upset. It's like Bioware thinks the fanbase is too stupid to tell two redheads apart, which won't be an issue in the vast majority of play throughs anyway. Do you play on PC? 90% chance there will be a mod to fix this fairly soon.
No, I don’t play on PC. My only hope at this point is that enough of a stir is kicked up that BioWare patches it.
It shouldn't be hard to change.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 14:12:30 GMT
No, I don’t play on PC. My only hope at this point is that enough of a stir is kicked up that BioWare patches it.
It shouldn't be hard to change.
It shouldn’t, but I doubt they will. As I said elsewhere, just one final way they found they could screw over Kelly fans (because they didn’t do that enough already apparently).
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Post by shermos on May 13, 2021 14:14:43 GMT
It shouldn't be hard to change.
It shouldn’t, but I doubt they will. As I said elsewhere, just one final way they found they could screw over Kelly fans (because they didn’t do that enough already apparently). I'll write a few tweets if it's any help.
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Post by Little Bengel on May 13, 2021 15:03:41 GMT
Pressly changed? How? Ugh this fandom. Do you ever think about what you're saying before you spout shit like this? Ugh you. You are absolutely deep in this fandom, we all know this. Because this particular hair issue isn't an issue for you, you get to blithely dismiss it and also trash anyone who does care with a trite little ugh. Which is it colf, are you a part of this fandom or no? Is this a self-deprecation that I have misunderstood, and you were nodding with a smile and a head shake, "ugh this fandom - that's me too and I know it heh"? Or do you find yourself above such things, to a point where you can dismiss literally most of the forum with one cheeky phrase? Ugh indeed. Pressly looked too old for someone whose grandpa fought in the FCW. If anything, that change came for the better. A+ for the melodrama though, that shit's entertaining.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2021 15:11:10 GMT
Do you ever think about what you're saying before you spout shit like this? Ugh you. You are absolutely deep in this fandom, we all know this. Because this particular hair issue isn't an issue for you, you get to blithely dismiss it and also trash anyone who does care with a trite little ugh. Which is it colf, are you a part of this fandom or no? Is this a self-deprecation that I have misunderstood, and you were nodding with a smile and a head shake, "ugh this fandom - that's me too and I know it heh"? Or do you find yourself above such things, to a point where you can dismiss literally most of the forum with one cheeky phrase? Ugh indeed. Pressly looked too old for someone whose grandpa fought in the FCW. If anything, that change came for the better. A+ for the melodrama though, that shit's entertaining. I have no issue with Pressley's new coif/appearance - as stated from a lore perspective it makes much better sense than previous. They just leaned too hard into a Saul Tigh character because BSG was awesome. We did end up with Saul eventually. I am glad you were entertained, but maybe you missed my point too? I am not that upset about Kelly Chambers. That isn't my thing, but I absolutely respect that for a character that is a romance option in ME2, that people that romanced and grew to appreciate the writing of that character, would feel betrayed when unnecessary changes are made without reason or explanation. In a remaster. I don't get upset about what you get upset about. I do respect your humanity when you are upset about whatever it is, and have learned so much from the people in this forum that I don't want to belittle any of them anymore. Decency and respect go a long way man, and I call it the way I see it. Hopefully this has added entertainment value to your day 
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Post by Little Bengel on May 13, 2021 15:17:35 GMT
Pressly looked too old for someone whose grandpa fought in the FCW. If anything, that change came for the better. A+ for the melodrama though, that shit's entertaining. I have no issue with Pressley's new coif/appearance - as stated from a lore perspective it makes much better sense than previous. They just leaned too hard into a Saul Tigh character because BSG was awesome. We did end up with Saul eventually. I am glad you were entertained, but maybe you missed my point too? I am not that upset about Kelly Chambers. That isn't my thing, but I absolutely respect that for a character that is a romance option in ME2, that people that romanced and grew to appreciate the writing of that character, would feel betrayed when unnecessary changes are made without reason or explanation. In a remaster. I don't get upset about what you get upset about. I do respect your humanity when you are upset about whatever it is, and have learned so much from the people in this forum that I don't want to belittle any of them anymore. Decency and respect go a long way man, and I call it the way I see it. Hopefully this has added entertainment value to your day  Glad to see we agree to an extent on Pressly. Kelly's changes may have been unnecessary, but so is the drama I see here. This is probably the only forum where I see such backlash to these changes. Not to say that it is non-existent elsewhere, but it definitely doesn't compare to what I see here. Wasn't as entertaining as your previous post, but I'll let it slide; the hamminess was just that good.
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Post by Mresa on May 13, 2021 15:31:35 GMT
When I saw Presley I was like "But why?" but then, as it was pointed out, the grandpa serving thing it does make sense that he should look younger. I was so used to him just looking the way he did and now he looks a bit like a different character. But yeah, like I said, it kinda makes sense.
Anderson tho, he needs more contrast to his head, the hair and eyebrows just don't pop so much as before. More black and less shiny, since the black hair texture is a lot more rough.
But Chambers, she looked better in ME2. I mean they specifically gave her unique hair so was it so hard to keep that same hairdo. Even if the face is different.
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Post by colfoley on May 13, 2021 16:29:37 GMT
Pressly changed? How? Ugh this fandom. Do you ever think about what you're saying before you spout shit like this? Ugh you. You are absolutely deep in this fandom, we all know this. Because this particular hair issue isn't an issue for you, you get to blithely dismiss it and also trash anyone who does care with a trite little ugh. Which is it colf, are you a part of this fandom or no? Is this a self-deprecation that I have misunderstood, and you were nodding with a smile and a head shake, "ugh this fandom - that's me too and I know it heh"? Or do you find yourself above such things, to a point where you can dismiss literally most of the forum with one cheeky phrase? Ugh indeed. I will admit I am not above the occasional melodrama myself or logical fallacy...just I still can't find anything worth commenting on when it comes to Pressly. His hair is a bit lighter, Kelly looks a little different and for some people this is so comment worthy it determines whether or not they will get the dang thing or not. So yes, maybe a little unfair to paint with one giant brush...though when I start using the word 'ugh' should be an indication that I am not being entirely serious either.
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Post by themikefest on May 13, 2021 16:36:21 GMT
What happened to Chambers? For some, she got liquefied on the collector base. If her looks, new look, bothers people, don't talk to her in ME2, then let her die. If you do let her live to ME3, ignore her. She we will be killed. Or if her look really annoys you, don't buy the remaster. Go play some other game while others enjoy the remaster
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Post by sentinel87 on May 13, 2021 16:43:58 GMT
Knew there were going to be some things I didn't like changed in the Legendary Edition, it was going to happen. Looks like the Chambers change is one of those. It seems like the across the board they just ported in ME3 models were ever possible. I thought Chambers in ME2 had a more distinctive look and in ME3 she looked more like a generic background NPC. I preferred the ME2 look myself.
Still excited for the Legendary Edition though. Would be awesome if Bioware patches this, if not there is always mods for PC.
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Post by colfoley on May 13, 2021 16:56:08 GMT
Knew there were going to be some things I didn't like changed in the Legendary Edition, it was going to happen. Looks like the Chambers change is one of those. It seems like the across the board they just ported in ME3 models were ever possible. I thought Chambers in ME2 had a more distinctive look and in ME3 she looked more like a generic background NPC. I preferred the ME2 look myself. Still excited for the Legendary Edition though. Would be awesome if Bioware patches this, if not there is always mods for PC. this is it exactly. Does she look worse then two? Sure. But the original sin was what they did to her model from 2 to 3.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 17:07:14 GMT
Knew there were going to be some things I didn't like changed in the Legendary Edition, it was going to happen. Looks like the Chambers change is one of those. It seems like the across the board they just ported in ME3 models were ever possible. I thought Chambers in ME2 had a more distinctive look and in ME3 she looked more like a generic background NPC. I preferred the ME2 look myself. Still excited for the Legendary Edition though. Would be awesome if Bioware patches this, if not there is always mods for PC. this is it exactly. Does she look worse then two? Sure. But the original sin was what they did to her model from 2 to 3. You don’t atone for a sin by making it worse.
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Post by ruthlesskhan on May 13, 2021 17:11:21 GMT
this is it exactly. Does she look worse then two? Sure. But the original sin was what they did to her model from 2 to 3. You don’t atone for a sin by making it worse. If their intention is to atone for sins, they'd have made a better ending. Their intentions ain't so noble. I'm not really surprised about the lazy patch-job tbh.
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Post by midnightwolf on May 13, 2021 17:55:11 GMT
I will simply say that I liked Kelly. And both enjoyed and admired Pressley's candour.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on May 13, 2021 17:59:38 GMT
Her new model does look a bit odd but will have to see how it translates to my TV. I actually like what they did with Pressly.
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Post by midnightwolf on May 13, 2021 18:05:03 GMT
Her new model does look a bit odd but will have to see how it translates to my TV. I actually like what they did with Pressly. Her hair parting is the wrong side. And seems more brown than red.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 13, 2021 18:08:07 GMT
Her new model does look a bit odd but will have to see how it translates to my TV. I actually like what they did with Pressly. Her hair parting is the wrong side. And seems more brown than red. It is brown. They made her a brunette instead of a redhead since they don’t have bright red anymore in the CC. Only default femshep seems to have it for some reason.
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Post by colfoley on May 13, 2021 18:09:39 GMT
Her hair parting is the wrong side. And seems more brown than red. It is brown. They made her a brunette instead of a redhead since they don’t have bright red anymore in the CC. Only default femshep seems to have it for some reason. interesting. *starts to sweat*
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