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Post by peterrrrr on May 26, 2021 13:22:37 GMT
I have started a ME1:LE playthrough and just arrived on Eden Prime(Infilitrator Paragon).
When I spoke to the people that was inside their bunker and they told me that they had a weapon from a smugler I couldn't use the paragon choice to make them hand over it to Shepard.
Is it possible to make them do that on a first playthrough or is it only possible to do so on a 2nd playthrough? And if so, are there any other choices in the game that is impossible to choose on the 1st playthrough due to not enough points early in the game?
Also, anyone here remember the list/guide that where on the web that contained all the choices in conversations in the game in order to get as many paragon/renegade points as possible? Anyone here know of it still on the web and have a link?
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Post by winterking on May 26, 2021 13:29:50 GMT
I have started a ME1:LE playthrough and just arrived on Eden Prime(Infilitrator Paragon). When I spoke to the people that was inside their bunker and they told me that they had a weapon from a smugler I couldn't use the paragon choice to make them hand over it to Shepard. Is it possible to make them do that on a first playthrough or is it only possible to do so on a 2nd playthrough? And if so, are there any other choices in the game that is impossible to choose on the 1st playthrough due to not enough points early in the game? Also, anyone here remember the list/guide that where on the web that contained all the choices in conversations in the game in order to get as many paragon/renegade points as possible? Anyone here know of it still on the web and have a link? It's possible to get that weapon on the first playthrough. You just have to spend skill points on Charm (Paragon). I know that at least three points there will be enough for you to get that weapon but it's probably less. As for being able to make every choice on a first playthrough. It's possible but not exactly easy. There very famous paragon persuasion that requires 12 points in charm. So unless you're doing this mission late in the game, you won't be able to pass it.
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Post by SofaJockey on May 26, 2021 13:30:14 GMT
The paragon choices should work fine on Eden Prime.
Assuming you put some points into 'Charm'?
In practice, the 'top right' choices are usually paragon (bottom right, renegade) and you won't go far wrong.
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Post by winterking on May 26, 2021 13:42:25 GMT
Also, anyone here remember the list/guide that where on the web that contained all the choices in conversations in the game in order to get as many paragon/renegade points as possible? Anyone here know of it still on the web and have a link?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 26, 2021 13:47:37 GMT
I have started a ME1:LE playthrough and just arrived on Eden Prime(Infilitrator Paragon). When I spoke to the people that was inside their bunker and they told me that they had a weapon from a smugler I couldn't use the paragon choice to make them hand over it to Shepard. Is it possible to make them do that on a first playthrough or is it only possible to do so on a 2nd playthrough? And if so, are there any other choices in the game that is impossible to choose on the 1st playthrough due to not enough points early in the game? Also, anyone here remember the list/guide that where on the web that contained all the choices in conversations in the game in order to get as many paragon/renegade points as possible? Anyone here know of it still on the web and have a link? Yes it is possible you have t opu ta couple o fyour initial points into Charm o rIntimidat eto d oit though depending whether yo uwantto go Paragon or Renegade. Charm affects Paragon whereas Intimidate affects Renegade. Bu tthen ME1 has always been like that.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 26, 2021 13:51:17 GMT
I have started a ME1:LE playthrough and just arrived on Eden Prime(Infilitrator Paragon). When I spoke to the people that was inside their bunker and they told me that they had a weapon from a smugler I couldn't use the paragon choice to make them hand over it to Shepard. Is it possible to make them do that on a first playthrough or is it only possible to do so on a 2nd playthrough? And if so, are there any other choices in the game that is impossible to choose on the 1st playthrough due to not enough points early in the game? Also, anyone here remember the list/guide that where on the web that contained all the choices in conversations in the game in order to get as many paragon/renegade points as possible? Anyone here know of it still on the web and have a link? It's possible to get that weapon on the first playthrough. You just have to spend skill points on Charm (Paragon). I know that at least three points there will be enough for you to get that weapon but it's probably less. As for being able to make every choice on a first playthrough. It's possible but not exactly easy. There very famous paragon persuasion that requires 12 points in charm. So unless you're doing this mission late in the game, you won't be able to pass it. I think you only need 2 is easily don ebecause you always start the game with 3 free points I've noticed. Though it's up to you to decide where you want to put those points.
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Post by 14thcommander on May 26, 2021 13:58:46 GMT
If you're doing a Paragon run, Charisma is important if you don't want to strong-arm everyone and be super cringe about being angry all the time. Charm the sox off everyone but yell at the council because they're idiots. That's the true tech right here.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 19:26:35 GMT
I have started a ME1:LE playthrough and just arrived on Eden Prime(Infilitrator Paragon). When I spoke to the people that was inside their bunker and they told me that they had a weapon from a smugler I couldn't use the paragon choice to make them hand over it to Shepard. Is it possible to make them do that on a first playthrough or is it only possible to do so on a 2nd playthrough? And if so, are there any other choices in the game that is impossible to choose on the 1st playthrough due to not enough points early in the game? Also, anyone here remember the list/guide that where on the web that contained all the choices in conversations in the game in order to get as many paragon/renegade points as possible? Anyone here know of it still on the web and have a link? If you want to save Jeong without using any paragon/renegade glitches, you'll have to do the Feros mission after both Noveria and Virmire, along with any side quests that give P/R points... and you'll have to largely stick to being a paragon. It takes about 243 points to unlock the last 2 slots. You're given a 4th free point when that happens, but you'll have to invest the 12th from your level up points.since it takes 12 Charm to save him. Going renegade is a bit easier since it only takes 10 intimidate to save him.
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Post by colfoley on May 26, 2021 19:35:52 GMT
I have started a ME1:LE playthrough and just arrived on Eden Prime(Infilitrator Paragon). When I spoke to the people that was inside their bunker and they told me that they had a weapon from a smugler I couldn't use the paragon choice to make them hand over it to Shepard. Is it possible to make them do that on a first playthrough or is it only possible to do so on a 2nd playthrough? And if so, are there any other choices in the game that is impossible to choose on the 1st playthrough due to not enough points early in the game? Also, anyone here remember the list/guide that where on the web that contained all the choices in conversations in the game in order to get as many paragon/renegade points as possible? Anyone here know of it still on the web and have a link? If you want to save Jeong without using any paragon/renegade glitches, you'll have to do the Feros mission after both Noveria and Virmire, along with any side quests that give P/R points... and you'll have to largely stick to being a paragon. It takes about 243 points to unlock the last 2 slots. You're given a 4th free point when that happens, but you'll have to invest the 12th from your level up points.since it takes 12 Charm to save him. Going renegade is a bit easier since it only takes 10 intimidate to save him. people actually want to SAVE Jeong though? Outrageous. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 19:41:32 GMT
If you want to save Jeong without using any paragon/renegade glitches, you'll have to do the Feros mission after both Noveria and Virmire, along with any side quests that give P/R points... and you'll have to largely stick to being a paragon. It takes about 243 points to unlock the last 2 slots. You're given a 4th free point when that happens, but you'll have to invest the 12th from your level up points.since it takes 12 Charm to save him. Going renegade is a bit easier since it only takes 10 intimidate to save him. people actually want to SAVE Jeong though? Outrageous. Lol. Admittedly, it doesn't have any real impact. A slight change in dialogue as you're wrapping up the mission with Juliana. Avoiding the fight with Saren can also require 12 Charm or 12 Initimidate points, if you don't (or can't) use charm or intimidate with him on Virmire. The Virmire check requires 7 of either... and using it will drop the requirement to 9 of either to avoid the fight. Personally, I never avoid the fight because I told him to expect me to kill him so I'm not letting him cop out of it by convincing him to kill himself.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 26, 2021 22:16:58 GMT
If you want to save Jeong without using any paragon/renegade glitches, you'll have to do the Feros mission after both Noveria and Virmire, along with any side quests that give P/R points... and you'll have to largely stick to being a paragon. It takes about 243 points to unlock the last 2 slots. You're given a 4th free point when that happens, but you'll have to invest the 12th from your level up points.since it takes 12 Charm to save him. Going renegade is a bit easier since it only takes 10 intimidate to save him. people actually want to SAVE Jeong though? Outrageous. Yeah I don't bothe rsaving Jeong after what he did.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 23:21:36 GMT
people actually want to SAVE Jeong though? Outrageous. Yeah I don't bothe rsaving Jeong after what he did. Towing the corporate line and doing his job? He was definitely answering to someone else up the food chain. Although she put up a weak verbal protest and received the assignment to watch over the colonists as a "reward" for her efforts, 'Lizbeth Baynam was ultimately doing the same thing... yet you have no choice but to save her (even renegade Shep who kills all the other colonists). The experiment had been going on for, several weeks (at least 28 days according to the VI), why did 'Lizbeth wait that long before trying to back up data and get a message out?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 26, 2021 23:47:30 GMT
Yeah I don't bothe rsaving Jeong after what he did. Towing the corporate line and doing his job? He was definitely answering to someone else up the food chain. Although she put up a weak verbal protest and received the assignment to watch over the colonists as a "reward" for her efforts, 'Lizbeth Baynam was ultimately doing the same thing... yet you have no choice but to save her (even renegade Shep who kills all the other colonists). The experiment had been going on for, several weeks (at least 28 days according to the VI), why did 'Lizbeth wait that long before trying to back up data and get a message out? It's possible because she couldn't remembe rthe VI also says that Lizbeth was disciplined fo rspeaking out against what was happening so never got the chance.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 23:53:57 GMT
Towing the corporate line and doing his job? He was definitely answering to someone else up the food chain. Although she put up a weak verbal protest and received the assignment to watch over the colonists as a "reward" for her efforts, 'Lizbeth Baynam was ultimately doing the same thing... yet you have no choice but to save her (even renegade Shep who kills all the other colonists). The experiment had been going on for, several weeks (at least 28 days according to the VI), why did 'Lizbeth wait that long before trying to back up data and get a message out? It's possible because she couldn't remembe rthe VI also says that Lizbeth was disciplined fo rspeaking out against what was happening so never got the chance. He says she was labeled as "combative" and given the assignment to monitor their safety as a result. Heck, she didn't even tell her own mother what was going on until Shepard says "Are you going to tell them about the Thorian, or should I?" Then she says... "Exogeni knew all along." For her to know that, she would have also had to have known all along. Jeong indicates he was sent there to assess the corporate bottom line, not to run the operation. He's an accountant. Now, I know a lot of people don't like accountant's on principle, but Jeong never sounds like he's really calling the shots. He's scared and waving a gun around... trying to stop people from heading to the port (where, coincidentally, they would be exposed to the Thorian's influence). He says he can't wait for Exogeni to get him of that rock. Clearly a grunt, not the person who set up the whole thing.
I wish there was a follow-up quest where we do get to go after the bastard who did set up the whole thing... at least we get to shoot Dr. Ross (not the top of the food chain, but closer to it).
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