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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Jun 6, 2021 22:28:45 GMT
Sorry, wall of questions and potential discussion topics incoming.
1.) Is it better to not get Wrex's Armor for his conversation on Virmire if I'm planning to off him? Is he harder to talk down and more confrontational? Also, in the end, is it better to cure the Genophage and have the Krogan in debt to Humanity vs status quo genophage?
2.) If I'm not planning to Romance Ashley, should I just save Kaidan? He seems like he'd make a better Spectre (Ashley seems better suited to being an N7 rather than a Spectre Agent), he's a toolbox of abilities and powers, and Ashley's arc has a good (if bittersweet) end on Virmire. Am I missing something? Also, 2.1) I always save whoever goes with the Salarians, does it make sense to put Ashley with the bomb?
3.) Is there a reason to save the Destiny Ascension besides saving the Council? I rather like the New Council more than the Original, so I tend to tell the 5th Fleet to focus on Sovereign at the expense of everything else.
4.) Is there a reason to pick Udina over Anderson?
5.) I know much ado is made about Liara being the 'canon' romance they practically throw at you (especially in 2 and 3), but she was my first inclination when I first played and it's been awhile since I've romanced her. It's either her, Tali, or Miranda for me. Any recommendations? My Shep is a Spacer, Sole Survivor, Engineer.
6.) As a Spacer (Alliance Military Family) Sole Survivor (Survivor of Thresher Maw attack arranged by Cerberus) would it be better to be as obtuse and confrontational as possible with Cerberus and TIM, or should I play along kinda and just sort of let the tension simmer by subtly undermining them?
7.) Does it make a difference if I tell Bailey to make sure I'm still 'officially' dead and yet have the Council restore my Spectre status? Or should I just refuse the Spectre reinstatement and 'lay low' so to speak?
8.) If I know how to save everyone on the Suicide Mission (it doesn't take much figuring out honestly, just putting the right people in the right places for the most part) does it make any sense to arrange some losses just for Drama?
9.) Are there any times where I shouldn't go with the Paragon or Renegade dialogue option because a better line or cutscene happens?
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Post by themikefest on Jun 7, 2021 0:06:12 GMT
8.) If I know how to save everyone on the Suicide Mission (it doesn't take much figuring out honestly, just putting the right people in the right places for the most part) does it make any sense to arrange some losses just for Drama? I would do it to see/hear the difference in ME3. Depending on what characters die, you might like their replacements in ME3. One thing to note. If Miranda dies in ME2, her father can survive ME3. Or if you want, both Henry and Oriana can die. Yes. In ME2, Shepard can shoot Grunt if the red or blue is ignored. There are other occasions, but to do that I would suggest you do a full ME2 playthrough not choosing the red or blue dialogue. You might like it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 0:59:40 GMT
1) You need 8 charm points or 8 intimidate points to be able to use a blue or red option to talk Wrex down. If you don't have that many points assigned to one or the other, you'd have to have done the Family Armor quest in order to talk him down.
Ashley will eventually shoot Wrex is you don't talk him down, so if you want his death to be unavoidable, then don't have more than 7 points in either and don't do his quest.
The dialogue intensity doesn't really change though... he never gets really agitated, never directly threatens Shepard or anything like that (IMO, of course). If you want to avoid the whole issue, then the easiest thing to do is just not recruit him at the start of the game. You will have to recruit Garrus in that case though.
2) It's totally your choice.
3) You get the DA as a war asset in ME3... up to you to decide if that's worth it or not.
4) Also, totally your choice.
5) Recruit Liara late in ME1 (i.e. do Therum last of the main planet missions). Impossible to romance her in ME1 then. If you really want to shove her out of your life as much as possible, don't do LOtSB in ME2 (although you'll be missing out on a fair bit of XP, some good upgrades and perks), and in ME3, stick her in her room and talk to her as little as possible. Honestly, I like Liara just fine. I seldom romance her and don't have any difficulty not doing so (without ignoring her) regardless of whether or not I'm romancing anyone else. The hate is overblown, IMO and I personally feel Ashley is the canon romance for BroShep since it has a clear "rough spot" in the middle, particularly if Shepard romances someone else in ME2.
6) Also, totally your choice.
7) Makes no difference at all if you tell Bailey to keep you dead. Not being a spectre also makes essentially no difference. So, again, your choice.
8) I love replaying the SM in different ways so I lose different people... but as far as how things go in ME3, most have "replacements." You may lose some war assets, but most are pretty minor.
The major arc that is affected by losses in ME2 is the geth/quarian war.
9) Yes.
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Post by jnericsonx on Jun 7, 2021 6:26:58 GMT
Wrex is my boy.
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Post by trinity0 on Jun 7, 2021 16:02:09 GMT
Sorry, wall of questions and potential discussion topics incoming. 1.) Is it better to not get Wrex's Armor for his conversation on Virmire if I'm planning to off him? Is he harder to talk down and more confrontational? Also, in the end, is it better to cure the Genophage and have the Krogan in debt to Humanity vs status quo genophage? I get Wrex the armor and i would have been able to talk him down but because i wanted to kill him i just use other chat options with him. I then had the choice to shoot him myself or give Ashley a sign to shoot him.
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Post by quarianmasterrace on Jun 7, 2021 16:35:44 GMT
9.) Are there any times where I shouldn't go with the Paragon or Renegade dialogue option because a better line or cutscene happens? Quite a few. I like the "Rally the Crowd" option in Tali's trial, for instance. Whether it succeeds or not is dependent upon your choices earlier in the story with Veetor and Reegar, which IMO is more interesting than charm/yell to win it grants the same # of Paragon points as the charm option actually all of the outcomes that aren't the persuade options are more interesting in the trial, IMO. Upper right Tali is loyal but gets exiled and it affects ME3. Lower right you actually lose her loyalty, which should have been a thing that can happen in more loyalty missions than just hers and Zaeed's, IMO.
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Jun 8, 2021 2:17:12 GMT
Sorry, wall of questions and potential discussion topics incoming. 1.) Is it better to not get Wrex's Armor for his conversation on Virmire if I'm planning to off him? Is he harder to talk down and more confrontational? Also, in the end, is it better to cure the Genophage and have the Krogan in debt to Humanity vs status quo genophage? Quicker (not easier) to kill Wrex if you do not have his armor. If you have his armor, you have to pick the first Renegade option before you can kill him. If you have his armor, then the first Paragon and Neutral option will spare him. Does not really matter who you send with the Salarians or the bomb. Story-wise, do whatever you think is best. i find Kaidan more useful as a squadmate in ME1 than Ashley, but do whatever you think is better from a story perspective. There may be war asset differences in ME3, but I don't know what there are. Other than some small dialogue differences, there are no big changes. Original council can give you the "Ah yes, Reapers" line in ME2. Not really, other than some dialogue differences in ME2. Kill the council and pick Udina, and you will not be re-instated as a Spectre in ME2 but it does not matter. Again, just dialogue differences. So do whatever you think you want to see. Do whatever you think is best for this playthrough. Is there a romance you have not seen yet? Sorry I will not recommend anything here. with the Sole Survivor background, probably confrontational would be best? Again, this seems like a personal preference based on what you want to do from a story perspective. I am better at giving what i think is practical gameplay advice, not helping with subtle role-playing aspects that should really be your choice to make. You may not have a choice if you kill the Council and elect Udina (you will not be reinstated until ME3). Functionally it is all the same. If you have not experienced a particular dialogue option in a while, take it. If you have not killed certain people yet, then I say do it. Depends. do you mean Charm and Intimidate options, or just Paragon and Renegade (not blue or red) options? Because I think there are a few, based on my personal preference. The following is a few I can think of off-hand ME1: - Let Toombs kill Dr. Wayne (Paragon, not charm/intimidate) - Refuse the Admiral's inspection of the Normandy (renegade, no charm/intimdate) - paragon option (no charm/intimdate) on the Baria Frontiers rep on Noveria to hand in the virus from the Asari. ME2: - no charm/intimidate of the looters when recruiting Mordin because the dialogue is cool (you have to kill them) - neutral option for resolution to Jacob's loyalty mission - headbutt Uvenk (renegade interrupt). Neutral option on Uvenk at the end of the rite
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