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Post by explorerclass on Mar 24, 2022 0:31:56 GMT
The more time goes on, the more faith I have that they may not force us to go with destroy. It goes against the themes and makes Shepard pretty terrible, so I’m heavily against that ending in a moral basis and I’d rather have no new Me than them ruin Shepard’s story by literally making him commit genocide, even killing his own friends, and actually act like he’s a decent person. And the more time goes on, the more and more likely it seems possible that they aren’t forcing THAT to be the canon ending to his story. Time and distance from the trailer make it seem possible they aren’t locking us with that. So I wish they’d just be straight forward and say “yes. That’s the canon” so I could at least spend this time getting over the death of ME instead of wasting time hoping for it. That is your opinion and I respect that. Years ago I made a thread that the only way to "move forward" was to go with DESTROY. Shepard would absolutely go with destroy after seeing what the reapers were doing, reasoning with them is impossible. Synthesizing also just forces people to merge their personalities against their own free will which is crazy. Destroy also opens up a chance to RE-BUILD and discover new potential threats and risks thus, effectively giving us more lore and interesting things to ponder. Shepard is literally the one who said “Organics and syntheitcs don’t have to destroy each other anymore” To a reaper In ME3 After Earth was taken. He also said “I won’t let fear compromise who I am” That same guy then deciding to sacrifice all synthetics because he’s scared literally makes no sense at all. It completely contrasts the established characterization of Shepard Inc. avid of headcanon which is absolutely okay for your RP playthrough but when we’re talking about a narrative based decision you have to go with the narrative the games presented, not what felt best for you Sorry I was late but I forgot about this site for a while that’s all.
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Post by explorerclass on Mar 24, 2022 0:38:54 GMT
As for the synthesis ending, that's the one that is difficult to imagine how it would affect everything because the whole concept is so off the wall. synthesis isn’t that hard to understand when you look into the game. The concepts of it are presented very early, just not by name. But we even have the benefit of hindsight now with andromeda. Alec Ryder is a 1:1 Shepard analogy. Strong, military leader. N7, disgraced by many accounts (Shepard for Cerberus, Ryder for SAM) Both so talented they leave their teams in the dust and are somewhat confused that others can’t keep up. Both are nearly unkillable. Both die on their terms for a bigger cause. Synthesis/Andromeda even shows Alec giving up his life to enhance and save that of Pathfinder. He gives her SAM, upgrading her hilogically and physiologically but it doesn’t at all affect her psychology or her mind (aside from of course losing her father) But now she can alter her body rapidly to fit any class. She can scan things. She can ask her head to research something. Basically, if any person was synthesized, that’s what we could do (except it would be more like a muscle so we’d have to work it out and train it likely) Though andromeda at times messed up With its writing, it’s concepts are pretty strong if you can look past the glitches. But at the very least we can gain a hint at what a synthesized person would be like, though for Ryder she has SAM whereas in synthesis it’s all you and your will, not another being sharing your mind/body. And we know it doesn’t bring about peace because it’s directly confirmed by the catalyst that it ends the cycle. Peace is its own issue. If we want peace, it’s on us. All catalyst can promise is reapers won’t need to reap. (Free will is scary but it’s what we spent the game fighting for at the end of the day)
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Post by hulluliini on Mar 24, 2022 9:40:16 GMT
Not sure what happened with the quote there because I can't quote it normally..
But I see synthesis as a quite different process and end result as SAM in Andromeda. MET explored these themes from the beginning but that still didn't prepare us for synthesis as it is shown. It's simply unthinkable. Having a SAM in your head is very low-tier stuff compared to synthesis. Or at least that's how I've always seen it.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 24, 2022 12:50:56 GMT
Not sure what happened with the quote there because I can't quote it normally.. But I see synthesis as a quite different process and end result as SAM in Andromeda. MET explored these themes from the beginning but that still didn't prepare us for synthesis as it is shown. It's simply unthinkable. Having a SAM in your head is very low-tier stuff compared to synthesis. Or at least that's how I've always seen it. I found the implications of SAM in MEA to be pretty horrifying, tbh.
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Recycling day?
My ending is better, and more righterer, than yours is. Because I said so.
Am I doing this right?
(The endings all suck and have problems, except Refuse which also sucks but has no problem)
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Post by Iakus on Mar 24, 2022 15:23:01 GMT
Recycling day? My ending is better, and more righterer, than yours is. Because I said so. Am I doing this right? (The endings all suck and have problems, except Refuse which also sucks but has no problem) Refuse is Shepard giving an awesome speech, followed by Bioware flipping the table and going "Rocks fall, everyone dies!"
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Post by themikefest on Mar 24, 2022 16:21:14 GMT
Recycling day? My ending is better, and more righterer, than yours is. Because I said so. Am I doing this right? (The endings all suck and have problems, except Refuse which also sucks but has no problem) Refuse is Shepard giving an awesome speech, followed by Bioware flipping the table and going "Rocks fall, everyone dies!" Refuse is having Commander dumba** talking big for a couple moments believing doing nothing is the way to go. **** that clown. I prefer a Shepard that is willing to do what it takes. That's why my Shepard destroys the reapers.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 24, 2022 16:41:43 GMT
Refuse is Shepard giving an awesome speech, followed by Bioware flipping the table and going "Rocks fall, everyone dies!" Refuse is having Commander dumba** talking big for a couple moments believing doing nothing is the way to go. **** that clown. I prefer a Shepard that is willing to do what it takes. That's why my Shepard destroys the reapers. That's what makes it a Bioware trolling. A real Shepard would keep on fighting even without the Crucible. He's do more than talk, he's be trying to find Starbrat's greybox and start reformatting it. Hell, blow up the entire Citadel if that's what it takes! But no, you have to accept the Reapers' magic wand, or rocks fall, and everyone dies.
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Refuse is having Commander dumba** talking big for a couple moments believing doing nothing is the way to go. **** that clown. I prefer a Shepard that is willing to do what it takes. That's why my Shepard destroys the reapers. That's what makes it a Bioware trolling. A real Shepard would keep on fighting even without the Crucible. He's do more than talk, he's be trying to find Starbrat's greybox and start reformatting it. Hell, blow up the entire Citadel if that's what it takes! But no, you have to accept the Reapers' magic wand, or rocks fall, and everyone dies. Blow up the Citadel? Good idea. Once Shepard meets dumb. dumb, he/she gets on the comms to inform Hackett that destroying the Citadel will stop the reapers. A shuttle picks up Shepard with Chakwas or Michel onboard to heal Shepard enough to get in the drivers seat of the Citadel. Once in drive, Shepard heads to the sun. Turns on the radio to jam to some AC/DC. Just as the Citadel comes into range of the sun, Shepard is picked up by one of the shuttles from the SR2. Just as the shuttle reaches the Normandy, the Citadel flies into the sun. There's at least one poster who will moan and groan about all the lives on the Citadel getting cooked. Here's solution to that. In ME2, Shepard meets Leviathan who tells Shepard the reapers are controlled by thing that is housed in the Citadel. Destroying the Citadel will stop the reapers. ME3 will be about evacuating the station then flying it into the sun.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 24, 2022 17:42:19 GMT
That's what makes it a Bioware trolling. A real Shepard would keep on fighting even without the Crucible. He's do more than talk, he's be trying to find Starbrat's greybox and start reformatting it. Hell, blow up the entire Citadel if that's what it takes! But no, you have to accept the Reapers' magic wand, or rocks fall, and everyone dies. Blow up the Citadel? Good idea. Once Shepard meets dumb. dumb, he/she gets on the comms to inform Hackett that destroying the Citadel will stop the reapers. A shuttle picks up Shepard with Chakwas or Michel onboard to heal Shepard enough to get in the drivers seat of the Citadel. Once in drive, Shepard heads to the sun. Turns on the radio to jam to some AC/DC. Just as the Citadel comes into range of the sun, Shepard is picked up by one of the shuttles from the SR2. Just as the shuttle reaches the Normandy, the Citadel flies into the sun. There's at least one poster who will moan and groan about all the lives on the Citadel getting cooked. Here's solution to that. In ME2, Shepard meets Leviathan who tells Shepard the reapers are controlled by thing that is housed in the Citadel. Destroying the Citadel will stop the reapers. ME3 will be about evacuating the station then flying it into the sun. Let's face it, anyone still on the Citadel at that point was either indoctrinated or smoothied. the whole "emergency shelters" thing was just words of comfort.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 24, 2022 18:35:12 GMT
Blow up the Citadel? Good idea. Once Shepard meets dumb. dumb, he/she gets on the comms to inform Hackett that destroying the Citadel will stop the reapers. A shuttle picks up Shepard with Chakwas or Michel onboard to heal Shepard enough to get in the drivers seat of the Citadel. Once in drive, Shepard heads to the sun. Turns on the radio to jam to some AC/DC. Just as the Citadel comes into range of the sun, Shepard is picked up by one of the shuttles from the SR2. Just as the shuttle reaches the Normandy, the Citadel flies into the sun. There's at least one poster who will moan and groan about all the lives on the Citadel getting cooked. Here's solution to that. In ME2, Shepard meets Leviathan who tells Shepard the reapers are controlled by thing that is housed in the Citadel. Destroying the Citadel will stop the reapers. ME3 will be about evacuating the station then flying it into the sun. Let's face it, anyone still on the Citadel at that point was either indoctrinated or smoothied. the whole "emergency shelters" thing was just words of comfort. I’ll take the words of the creators over yours. Just wish we actually got to see the Citadel during that, with things like the defense force we help build up in action. After all, if we want realism everyone is dead even in Destroy from simply the Reapers on the ground falling down creating nuclear level blasts from the impact.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 24, 2022 19:23:40 GMT
Let's face it, anyone still on the Citadel at that point was either indoctrinated or smoothied. the whole "emergency shelters" thing was just words of comfort. I’ll take the words of the creators over yours. Just wish we actually got to see the Citadel during that, with things like the defense force we help build up in action. After all, if we want realism everyone is dead even in Destroy from simply the Reapers on the ground falling down creating nuclear level blasts from the impact. “The truth, she says, as if it were nothing! No, no. Far better the lie. Far better the comfort of blankets and shadows and a mother’s love!”The Citadel Defense Force stuff was just Twitter canon. Stuff they said to try and placate people rightly p*ssed at their 'art" without actually changing anything. Because really, if Destroy actually worked as described, then not only should EDI die, but Miranda, Samara, Tali, Wrex, Kaidan, maybe Garrus, and every trained biotic or anyone with significant cybernetic upgrades should have died too.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 24, 2022 23:09:37 GMT
Let's face it, anyone still on the Citadel at that point was either indoctrinated or smoothied. the whole "emergency shelters" thing was just words of comfort. I’ll take the words of the creators over yours. Just wish we actually got to see the Citadel during that, with things like the defense force we help build up in action. After all, if we want realism everyone is dead even in Destroy from simply the Reapers on the ground falling down creating nuclear level blasts from the impact. Can you provide proof the reapers created nuclear level blast after they fell to the ground? If that did happen, everyone seen that were cheering would likely be dead since they were well within range of a nuclear level blast. For those who didn't know, here's Weekes answering a question about what happened to everyone on the Citadel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2022 23:24:29 GMT
Destroy ending is to me the least offensive, but it is terrible all the same and as noted there could be a slippery slope involved. It is a Pinocchio. Destroy kills all Pinocchios. This is horrible, I felt I had helped at least one become a real boy. ... The idea of Shepard charging in with Hell's Bells blasting on the stereo made me smile, nice work mike Regarding nuclear blast level destruction from a falling Reaper... I don't think so? The dreadnoughts are massive, but they were doing their work at near ground level. Can't reach terminal velocity, impact area and damage will be extensive and there will be a shock wave but I don't believe it falls to nucleaar catastrophe levels. Control is just passing the buck to a future generation. It is not an actual choice. Synthesis is acceptable for people that are ok with controlling other people's minds, bodies, reading habits, discussion topics, etc. In short, if you are always the smartest person in the room, you probably chose Synthesis because it's so obvious. Like, no doy! I chose for you. You're welcome!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 25, 2022 0:22:21 GMT
I’ll take the words of the creators over yours. Just wish we actually got to see the Citadel during that, with things like the defense force we help build up in action. After all, if we want realism everyone is dead even in Destroy from simply the Reapers on the ground falling down creating nuclear level blasts from the impact. Can you provide proof the reapers created nuclear level blast after they fell to the ground? If that did happen, everyone seen that were cheering would likely be dead since they were well within range of a nuclear level blast. For those who didn't know, here's Weekes answering a question about what happened to everyone on the Citadel. Regarding nuclear blast level destruction from a falling Reaper... I don't think so? The dreadnoughts are massive, but they were doing their work at near ground level. Can't reach terminal velocity, impact area and damage will be extensive and there will be a shock wave but I don't believe it falls to nucleaar catastrophe levels. It’s called the laws of physics. We see how much damage a skyscraper can cause when it falls down, and the Reapers are a lot taller and way more massive than a skyscraper. That one we see fall down alone would level London (also take about 20 seconds to fall rather than the couple, which if that happened the impact would be even worse). And we saw more than one fall. So yes, everyone we see cheering would be dead from the impact blast. And let’s not even consider the ones falling from the atmosphere or orbit. And that’s just one problem.
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Post by shotgunjulia on Mar 25, 2022 10:25:22 GMT
I recently finished yet another play through of ME3. I've seen the dead reapers on the ME4-5 trailer. Here's what I think is going to happen.
1) Synthesis - per the conversation with the Catalyst - it has been tried before but it has always failed. It is not something that can be... forced. Guess what? It's the Catalyst's solution and is being forced again on everyone in the galaxy. Thus is fails. Synthesis lasts a century or two and then fails. Scratch synthesis. If you chose synthesis, you can select this at the start and there will be a reference to how firing the Crucible instructed the reapers to disengage and that it sent nanites throughout the galaxy that attempted to rewrite the DNA of all species, but were rejected.
2) Control - There were some reapers that were destroyed. Those are what we see. Shepard dies. The reapers that are left return to dark space until the Shepard Catalyst needs to call them forth. IOW. Control ending is irrelevant. If you chose Control, the reapers disengaged and left the galaxy for dark space.
3) Destroy - The catalyst lied about all synthetic life being destroyed including the Geth. It was trying to steer Shepard toward Synthesis. If you chose Destroy, the Citadel took the most damage.
In all three endings the mass relays are damaged. Shepard dies in all three. Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what we chose for the endings. It is irrelevant. There will be no massive fleet of reapers. The Geth survived, even if you destroyed them on Rannoch - not all of them were there. Same with the Quarians - not all of them were in the migrant fleet. If there were 15,000 the species can survive.
The massive fires on Earth, Palaven, and Thessia created soot in the atmosphere the nearly blotted out the sun for several years and caused ice ages.
I think this is how things will be handled. This probably won't satisfy anyone, but it's about the only way the endings can be handled going forward.
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Post by hulluliini on Mar 25, 2022 12:43:10 GMT
2) Control - There were some reapers that were destroyed. Those are what we see. Shepard dies. The reapers that are left return to dark space until the Shepard Catalyst needs to call them forth. IOW. Control ending is irrelevant. If you chose Control, the reapers disengaged and left the galaxy for dark space. Where did you get this? Shepard becomes a reaper that controls the rest of the reapers and they start rebuilding the galaxy. Maybe after that they did return to dark space but it's not shown, is it?
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Post by wright1978 on Mar 25, 2022 19:34:44 GMT
I recently finished yet another play through of ME3. I've seen the dead reapers on the ME4-5 trailer. Here's what I think is going to happen. 1) Synthesis - per the conversation with the Catalyst - it has been tried before but it has always failed. It is not something that can be... forced. Guess what? It's the Catalyst's solution and is being forced again on everyone in the galaxy. Thus is fails. Synthesis lasts a century or two and then fails. Scratch synthesis. If you chose synthesis, you can select this at the start and there will be a reference to how firing the Crucible instructed the reapers to disengage and that it sent nanites throughout the galaxy that attempted to rewrite the DNA of all species, but were rejected. 2) Control - There were some reapers that were destroyed. Those are what we see. Shepard dies. The reapers that are left return to dark space until the Shepard Catalyst needs to call them forth. IOW. Control ending is irrelevant. If you chose Control, the reapers disengaged and left the galaxy for dark space. 3) Destroy - The catalyst lied about all synthetic life being destroyed including the Geth. It was trying to steer Shepard toward Synthesis. If you chose Destroy, the Citadel took the most damage. In all three endings the mass relays are damaged. Shepard dies in all three. Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what we chose for the endings. It is irrelevant. There will be no massive fleet of reapers. The Geth survived, even if you destroyed them on Rannoch - not all of them were there. Same with the Quarians - not all of them were in the migrant fleet. If there were 15,000 the species can survive. The massive fires on Earth, Palaven, and Thessia created soot in the atmosphere the nearly blotted out the sun for several years and caused ice ages. I think this is how things will be handled. This probably won't satisfy anyone, but it's about the only way the endings can be handled going forward. What happens to Banshee barista’s, husk bus boys and reaper crossing guards in failed synthesis. Also don’t see why they’d want to touch issue of shep’s fate with a barge pole if they even tried your suggestion of mushing endings into a sticky mess. There are so many other character fate tied to shep’s choices that setting anything anywhere near shep’s time would be massively problematic. With liara you can get round that due to her long lived ness plus survivability.
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Post by shotgunjulia on Mar 25, 2022 20:01:57 GMT
2) Control - There were some reapers that were destroyed. Those are what we see. Shepard dies. The reapers that are left return to dark space until the Shepard Catalyst needs to call them forth. IOW. Control ending is irrelevant. If you chose Control, the reapers disengaged and left the galaxy for dark space. Where did you get this? Shepard becomes a reaper that controls the rest of the reapers and they start rebuilding the galaxy. Maybe after that they did return to dark space but it's not shown, is it? No it's not shown. It's assumed they leave. ME4-5 will likely be well after the ending and thus have no impact on the next game. What happens to the husks and banshee baristas in the failed synthesis? They disintegrate. Simple. ME4-5 happens 200-300 yrs after the ME3 ending. That way they don't have to deal with any characters other than Liara, Grunt, and Wrex. Maybe Aria will still be around - she'll be old as dirt, but could still be around.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 25, 2022 20:02:26 GMT
Also don’t see why they’d want to touch issue of shep’s fate with a barge pole if they even tried your suggestion of mushing endings into a sticky mess. There are so many other character fate tied to shep’s choices that setting anything anywhere near shep’s time would be massively problematic. With liara you can get round that due to her long lived ness plus survivability. It wouldn't be hard. The guy did say the details have changed, it happened so long ago. Those details can be anything. Plus he's changed his story once before. T'soni can die in ME3.
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I recently finished yet another play through of ME3. I've seen the dead reapers on the ME4-5 trailer. Here's what I think is going to happen. 1) Synthesis - per the conversation with the Catalyst - it has been tried before but it has always failed. It is not something that can be... forced. Guess what? It's the Catalyst's solution and is being forced again on everyone in the galaxy. Thus is fails. Synthesis lasts a century or two and then fails. Scratch synthesis. If you chose synthesis, you can select this at the start and there will be a reference to how firing the Crucible instructed the reapers to disengage and that it sent nanites throughout the galaxy that attempted to rewrite the DNA of all species, but were rejected. 2) Control - There were some reapers that were destroyed. Those are what we see. Shepard dies. The reapers that are left return to dark space until the Shepard Catalyst needs to call them forth. IOW. Control ending is irrelevant. If you chose Control, the reapers disengaged and left the galaxy for dark space. 3) Destroy - The catalyst lied about all synthetic life being destroyed including the Geth. It was trying to steer Shepard toward Synthesis. If you chose Destroy, the Citadel took the most damage. In all three endings the mass relays are damaged. Shepard dies in all three. Bottom line is that it doesn't matter what we chose for the endings. It is irrelevant. There will be no massive fleet of reapers. The Geth survived, even if you destroyed them on Rannoch - not all of them were there. Same with the Quarians - not all of them were in the migrant fleet. If there were 15,000 the species can survive. The massive fires on Earth, Palaven, and Thessia created soot in the atmosphere the nearly blotted out the sun for several years and caused ice ages. I think this is how things will be handled. This probably won't satisfy anyone, but it's about the only way the endings can be handled going forward. Where did you get this? Shepard becomes a reaper that controls the rest of the reapers and they start rebuilding the galaxy. Maybe after that they did return to dark space but it's not shown, is it? No it's not shown. It's assumed they leave. ME4-5 will likely be well after the ending and thus have no impact on the next game. What happens to the husks and banshee baristas in the failed synthesis? They disintegrate. Simple. ME4-5 happens 200-300 yrs after the ME3 ending. That way they don't have to deal with any characters other than Liara, Grunt, and Wrex. Maybe Aria will still be around - she'll be old as dirt, but could still be around. Quickly Bioware pay attention.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2022 9:07:12 GMT
Can you provide proof the reapers created nuclear level blast after they fell to the ground? If that did happen, everyone seen that were cheering would likely be dead since they were well within range of a nuclear level blast. For those who didn't know, here's Weekes answering a question about what happened to everyone on the Citadel. Regarding nuclear blast level destruction from a falling Reaper... I don't think so? The dreadnoughts are massive, but they were doing their work at near ground level. Can't reach terminal velocity, impact area and damage will be extensive and there will be a shock wave but I don't believe it falls to nucleaar catastrophe levels. It’s called the laws of physics. We see how much damage a skyscraper can cause when it falls down, and the Reapers are a lot taller and way more massive than a skyscraper. That one we see fall down alone would level London (also take about 20 seconds to fall rather than the couple, which if that happened the impact would be even worse). And we saw more than one fall. So yes, everyone we see cheering would be dead from the impact blast. And let’s not even consider the ones falling from the atmosphere or orbit. And that’s just one problem. Take a deep breath. I didn't say it wouldn't do damage. I mentioned things like a shockwave. Not nuclear level devastation, unless you are talking about a dirty bomb or small deployment. Skyscrapers make a big mess when they come down. A Reaper would make a bigger one. Not a nuclear shockwave, not the heat involved, not the radiation. It is not comparable, even if the damage would still be massive.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 26, 2022 14:05:09 GMT
Can you provide proof the reapers created nuclear level blast after they fell to the ground? If that did happen, everyone seen that were cheering would likely be dead since they were well within range of a nuclear level blast. For those who didn't know, here's Weekes answering a question about what happened to everyone on the Citadel. Regarding nuclear blast level destruction from a falling Reaper... I don't think so? The dreadnoughts are massive, but they were doing their work at near ground level. Can't reach terminal velocity, impact area and damage will be extensive and there will be a shock wave but I don't believe it falls to nucleaar catastrophe levels. It’s called the laws of physics. We see how much damage a skyscraper can cause when it falls down, and the Reapers are a lot taller and way more massive than a skyscraper. That one we see fall down alone would level London (also take about 20 seconds to fall rather than the couple, which if that happened the impact would be even worse). And we saw more than one fall. So yes, everyone we see cheering would be dead from the impact blast. And let’s not even consider the ones falling from the atmosphere or orbit. And that’s just one problem.
Any dead bodies in orbit there is if they don't have spacesuits good chance they would burn up in the atmosphere long before they hit the ground those in spacesuits depends on the quality of the spacesuit.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 26, 2022 15:55:06 GMT
It’s called the laws of physics. We see how much damage a skyscraper can cause when it falls down, and the Reapers are a lot taller and way more massive than a skyscraper. That one we see fall down alone would level London (also take about 20 seconds to fall rather than the couple, which if that happened the impact would be even worse). And we saw more than one fall. So yes, everyone we see cheering would be dead from the impact blast. And let’s not even consider the ones falling from the atmosphere or orbit. And that’s just one problem.
Any dead bodies in orbit there is if they don't have spacesuits good chance they would burn up in the atmosphere long before they hit the ground those in spacesuits depends on the quality of the spacesuit.
I was referring to the Reaper bodies falling. They’d cause asteroid impact levels of destruction when they hit.
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Post by Iakus on Mar 26, 2022 16:21:07 GMT
Any dead bodies in orbit there is if they don't have spacesuits good chance they would burn up in the atmosphere long before they hit the ground those in spacesuits depends on the quality of the spacesuit.
I was referring to the Reaper bodies falling. They’d cause asteroid impact levels of destruction when they hit. Not to mention all the eezo they'll be spreading everywhere...
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