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Post by jnericsonx on Jul 1, 2021 5:02:14 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life."
I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2021 5:23:44 GMT
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 1, 2021 6:04:24 GMT
Hey! Stop wasting water! 😒
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 1, 2021 6:51:12 GMT
Where is this from?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 1, 2021 7:16:58 GMT
Grissom Academy in ME3 is you saved David Archer in ME2.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 1, 2021 7:27:26 GMT
Grissom Academy in ME3 is you saved David Archer in ME2. Ah yes, I'm still in ME2LE. Last time I just rushed through some early missions to try ME3 combat, one of them was Grissom but I think I skipped or he wasnt there.
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Post by malgus on Jul 20, 2021 0:55:16 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life."
I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
Just a small and quick dialogue. And yet it gives so many emotions...
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Post by Phantom on Jul 20, 2021 1:04:08 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life."
I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
Well if a person doesn't have a soul, you can send their corpse to any Cerberus Labs for Science. We don't care if they are warm or not, Breathing or not, We always need of bodies for Science.
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Post by Sundance31us on Jul 20, 2021 4:03:05 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life." I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
Remember the first time I heard that...caught me completely off-guard. Also finding him in the ME2 DLC, don't think I'd ever gotten that angry playing a game and yeah a certain someone got pistol-whipped that day (in game that is).
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 20, 2021 16:28:47 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life."
I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
Technically, David is a bit sloppy here. It's not like he would have died if Shepard had not intervened. Rather everybody else would have. He'd have lingered in some nightmarish existence in a VI hybrid state but technically, he'd have remained alive.
*goes back into robot standby mode*
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 13:50:51 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life."
I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
Technically, David is a bit sloppy here. It's not like he would have died if Shepard had not intervened. Rather everybody else would have. He'd have lingered in some nightmarish existence in a VI hybrid state but technically, he'd have remained alive.
*goes back into robot standby mode* I think you make a large assumption here. David was not a willing participant. The human mind has limits, then it will break. The body cannot live without the mind. He would only linger a little longer, the desperation was real and he was near a breaking point. I take him at his word. This is firmly headcanon territory, so I am not saying you're wrong. I am saying that in my game, you are wrong
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Post by Sonya on Jul 25, 2021 8:18:43 GMT
Prophet with crystal ball telling who has what. That's cute.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 25, 2021 8:54:56 GMT
TBH this time I found it a bit too obvious-in-your-face small moment, which didnt do anything to me anymore...
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Post by AnDromedary on Jul 26, 2021 4:04:47 GMT
Technically, David is a bit sloppy here. It's not like he would have died if Shepard had not intervened. Rather everybody else would have. He'd have lingered in some nightmarish existence in a VI hybrid state but technically, he'd have remained alive.
*goes back into robot standby mode* I think you make a large assumption here. David was not a willing participant. The human mind has limits, then it will break. The body cannot live without the mind. He would only linger a little longer, the desperation was real and he was near a breaking point. I take him at his word. This is firmly headcanon territory, so I am not saying you're wrong. I am saying that in my game, you are wrong But even assuming that he would have died soon after the events in Overlord (if Shepard hadn't intervened), I doubt he could have predicted exactly the number of days he would have lasted, so an accurate count is still impossible.
I hope it's clear I've just been trying to mess with people ... right?
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 30, 2021 20:59:03 GMT
Yeah, so, I don't at all regret denying Gavin Archer knowledge of David. Not one bit, even knowing it's a Renegade decision and what happens as a result.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 14:26:37 GMT
Yeah, so, I don't at all regret denying Gavin Archer knowledge of David. Not one bit, even knowing it's a Renegade decision and what happens as a result. Letting him know, you can still slice and dice him down to size pretty well. It is not a pleasure cruise for him in my convo, I assure you. Gavin did terrible, terrible things. His motivation was wrong-headed, but he didn't want the end result he got - he just couldn't see it until it was too late. I forgave him, but only enough to let him live with his pain.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 15:56:27 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life."
I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
I does propagate a stereotype regarding autistic persons... i.e. that they tend to count. It does make me tear up a little, but perhaps for different reasons than others since one of my children is autistic... diagnosed a long, long time ago now before as much was understood about autism as now. He's not a mathematical savant and doesn't count things... and convincing people to see him for who he is truly... was, at times, a challenge. For the most part, the entire Overlord story brings up a lot of old emotions for me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 31, 2021 16:54:38 GMT
Yeah, so, I don't at all regret denying Gavin Archer knowledge of David. Not one bit, even knowing it's a Renegade decision and what happens as a result. Letting him know, you can still slice and dice him down to size pretty well. It is not a pleasure cruise for him in my convo, I assure you. Gavin did terrible, terrible things. His motivation was wrong-headed, but he didn't want the end result he got - he just couldn't see it until it was too late. I forgave him, but only enough to let him live with his pain. I don't want to reveal what happened since it's potentially a spoiler, but surely you know what Gavin does if you don't tell him how David is doing. Honestly, I thought Gavin should have been shot at the end of Overlord but this fate is even better.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 31, 2021 16:55:42 GMT
"Anything in particular?" "The number of days you lengthened my life."
I'm sorry, if you don't tear up at that you have no soul.
I does propagate a stereotype regarding autistic persons... i.e. that they tend to count. It does make me tear up a little, but perhaps for different reasons than others since one of my children is autistic... diagnosed a long, long time ago now before as much was understood about autism as now. He's not a mathematical savant and doesn't count things... and convincing people to see him for who he is truly... was, at times, a challenge. For the most part, the entire Overlord story brings up a lot of old emotions for me. I'm not sure I think autism was the major part here. David was being tortured. His brother didn't even care. Edit: I've encountered enough autistic people to know the counting thing is probably nothing close to common. I've never actually seen it IRL.
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I does propagate a stereotype regarding autistic persons... i.e. that they tend to count. It does make me tear up a little, but perhaps for different reasons than others since one of my children is autistic... diagnosed a long, long time ago now before as much was understood about autism as now. He's not a mathematical savant and doesn't count things... and convincing people to see him for who he is truly... was, at times, a challenge. For the most part, the entire Overlord story brings up a lot of old emotions for me. I'm not sure I think autism was the major part here. David was being tortured. His brother didn't even care. Edit: I've encountered enough autistic people to know the counting thing is probably nothing close to common. I've never actually seen it IRL. Well, being an "autistic savant" is cited as the reason he could communicate with the geth in the first place. In my ME3 run started just with the comic (i.e. it assumes the player did not do Overlord DLC), Gavin Archer indicated that Cerberus/he had to kill David after he went rogue. After that happened, TIM demanded he get another subject "like David" to continue on with the work... and that's what triggered Gavin Archer to leave and go into hiding with Brin's group of scientists. (Not doing Overlord in ME2 changes the story quite a bit when you talk with Archer.).
Also, I wasn't implying it was common... but early on, movies like Rain Man and other media gave rise to such stereotypes about autism... and it was difficult to convince people to see things more accurately... and, in some cases, more humanely. Statistically, I was told that "savantism" occurs in the autistic population at no higher a rate than it occurs in people who do not fall "on the spectrum"... so, its incidences are likely not associated with autism at all.
Consider that to for a cancer patient to say "I'm counting the days X treatment lengthened my life" is automatically considered to be a vague statement of appreciation for the extension of life beyond an already ambiguous estimate... and we don't analyze it at all with the expectation that the person stating it is literally counting off each day. It's also very common for people to say "I'm counting to the days until X happens" and we usually don't expect them to be actually counting but we accept the statement as just an indicator that they are looking forward to that event. However, in David's case and judging from this thread, some people here do expect that he is actually and actively counting each day. Why? Because it plays into a stereotype about autism.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 31, 2021 17:59:11 GMT
Well, being an "autistic savant" is cited as the reason he could communicate with the geth in the first place. In my ME3 run started just with the comic (i.e. it assumes the player did not do Overlord DLC), Gavin Archer indicated that Cerberus/he had to kill David after he went rogue. After that happened, TIM demanded he get another subject "like David" to continue on with the work... and that's what triggered Gavin Archer to leave and go into hiding with Brin's group of scientists. (Not doing Overlord in ME2 changes the story quite a bit when you talk with Archer.). Either way, Gavin tortured his brother. No forgiving that by "it got out of hand". He was a monster. Also, I wasn't implying it was common... I didn't think you were saying it was common. I was specifically relating to what you said about your son. I hadn't meant to connect it to David so sorry if that was unclear.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 18:09:47 GMT
Well, being an "autistic savant" is cited as the reason he could communicate with the geth in the first place. In my ME3 run started just with the comic (i.e. it assumes the player did not do Overlord DLC), Gavin Archer indicated that Cerberus/he had to kill David after he went rogue. After that happened, TIM demanded he get another subject "like David" to continue on with the work... and that's what triggered Gavin Archer to leave and go into hiding with Brin's group of scientists. (Not doing Overlord in ME2 changes the story quite a bit when you talk with Archer.). Either way, Gavin tortured his brother. No forgiving that by "it got out of hand". He was a monster. Also, I wasn't implying it was common... I didn't think you were saying it was common. I was specifically relating to what you said about your son. I hadn't meant to connect it to David so sorry if that was unclear. However, you have no opportunity to tell him he's a monster nor will he express much guilt for what he's done if you don't do Overlord... nor will he, regardless of what you can say, kill himself. It's just not written into the conversation... for better or worse... Bioware's call.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 31, 2021 18:13:51 GMT
However, you have no opportunity to tell him he's a monster nor will he express much guilt for what he's done if you don't do Overlord... nor will he, regardless of what you can say, kill himself. It's just not written into the conversation... for better or worse... Bioware's call. True. I'd still rather he commit suicide because he was such a heartless shit. Better than cutting words.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 18:36:52 GMT
However, you have no opportunity to tell him he's a monster nor will he express much guilt for what he's done if you don't do Overlord... nor will he, regardless of what you can say, kill himself. It's just not written into the conversation... for better or worse... Bioware's call. True. I'd still rather he commit suicide because he was such a heartless shit. Better than cutting words. Seen it. I prefer the renegade dialog option that follows letting him know David is ok. He is given some peace of mind, and frankly I need every scientist available to focus on completing the Crucible. Gavin Archer is a monster, but a penitent one that serves my purpose. I get to feel superior too, which is an RP favorite of mine sadly
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 16, 2021 17:55:37 GMT
I does propagate a stereotype regarding autistic persons... i.e. that they tend to count. It does make me tear up a little, but perhaps for different reasons than others since one of my children is autistic... diagnosed a long, long time ago now before as much was understood about autism as now. He's not a mathematical savant and doesn't count things... and convincing people to see him for who he is truly... was, at times, a challenge. For the most part, the entire Overlord story brings up a lot of old emotions for me. I'm not sure I think autism was the major part here. David was being tortured. His brother didn't even care. Edit: I've encountered enough autistic people to know the counting thing is probably nothing close to common. I've never actually seen it IRL. Yeah once way back when I was at school I knwe someone wh owas a bit of a maths genius in that I coul dask them a math question and the ycould giv eme the answer straightaway but I don't think they were autistic. But yeqah it was moer about the tortuer his brother was putting him through than anything. It definitely felt like t ome when diong tha tquest that David wa close to breaking point though so Shep coming along when they did probabl yfelt like a miracle to him.
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