Black Widow Vs. Valiant Vs. Indra

Well the CSR can be used fully auto, I do it on single targets when I'm very sure I won't overheat it.


I haven't used the Valiant in a long while. And I don't think I will for some time either. Too addicted to Drell Assassinator with Harrier/Drill Rounds on Glacier.

Arc pistol is mostly going to be the better weapon if you don't mind the charge up. It also gives you a little better mod choices than the talon imo where you're sort of forced into a few different mod choices to be optimal. Arc is better on casters and hits hard as hell. Talon is great on accuracy bonus classes like the geth race and marksman kits. Imho.

Performance-wise, it's BW >>>> Valiant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indra.


Then there's King Javelin too of course, but you didn't mention it so yeah.

> Host

> Kits with Sabotage or Energy Drain

Bosses can't be stunned but are too big to miss so doesn't matter.


Addendum: Kishock has no hip-fire penalty. Getting close may work.

Indra closes that gap considerably with rof bonus kits.

I love the Kishock now, the double cloak bonus shot for charge up weapons game mechanic can give you very good burst damage against many bosses other than Atlases. But then again, it means everything else Cerberus can be one shot!

I found the Salarian Infiltrator a bit harder to use with the Kishock, I might have to bind Proxy Mine to a different key entirely on the keyboard, its a little tricky with the mouse I have to hold left mouse, then press cloak thumb mouse button, then fire an accurate proxy mine mouse wheel press, and then leg go of left mouse. Energy drain is set to thumb mouse 3. 

Plus I was often having to quickly decide what did more damage in each situation - me with two cloak bonus shots every cloak cycle, or cloak bonus shot with proxy mine, plus additional damage on follow up shots for me and team...

Plus I do like that depending on a target, you can ignore targets that still have say one bar of health, they will die due to bleed out.

Plus the Kishock is lightweight, so I can pack on Acolyte secondary. Which I really don't even use. I find it fairly easy to headshot Phantoms even without the bubble trick that brings them to a stop.

I just used the Jav for the first (yes, I said first) time in MP with the QFE in Condor/Cerberus/Gold with mrgoldarm. I didn't hit much but everything I did hit died. Well, except Atlases; the Jav only takes out half of their armor per shot 

I guess it will be awhile before I can headshot lolfantoms with it.

So how long is the delay between shots? Is it the same kind of wind-up thing that the Reegar has between bursts?

And I guess, eventually, you'll be able to do things like this

Using the BW on an Infiltrator is the same to me personally as Reegar on AIU or Harrier TGI.

On Gold and below I'd just feel bad using any of those combos - makes me feel even worse than usual.

Poor guy. The Trooper here depicted, instead, prefers Banshees for that I believe