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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 13, 2021 16:53:30 GMT
Rian Johnson didn't subvert anything, but whatever. He did answer the age old question of where blue milk came from. I can't help but wonder how much that shit costs to ship all the way to Tatooine though.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 13, 2021 17:07:30 GMT
I would like them to explore the other continents and the cultures on them. Especially since they’re the origins of the Qunari and Humanity. This is something that I really want to explore. As you say, to do this would presumably mean going beyond Thedas because even if we were to delve into the archives of Tevinter or Par Vollen that would only contain their version of history. For example, the Qun claim their ancestors were brutal and savage, needing the strictures of the Qun to control them. They then point to the savagery of the Tal Vashoth to reinforce this view, ignoring the fact that this might be due to the kick back against the life they have just escaped from rather than an innate aspect of their race, plus the difficulty the Tal Vashoth having in living in a world that is prejudiced against them because their race is equated with the Qun. Where did the Kossith originate? Are there still any of the original race left in the world? Why did the Qun feel the need to migrate to Thedas? As for humanity, their existence is even more mysterious. According to the Dalish, the elves first became aware of them when they arrived on Par Vollen from across the sea. What we know about the Neromenians as a sea faring culture would seem to confirm this. However, what about the other humans across Thedas? Did they all start with the Neromenians? Where did the Neromenians come from? Why did they leave? Are there still other humans civilisations somewhere across the sea? There is plenty of scope there for a game of exploration; may be even more than one. Antiva would also be a good jumping off point for such a game because of their sea faring history, including previous abortive attempts to answer some of the questions above by embarking on exploration of the ocean to the east. Yeah, I want to know why the qunari fear the kossith. As for humans, I remember one of the devs saying Rivaini came from a different place hence why they are analogous to black people unlike the Neromenians. And yeah I would have vastly preferred Antiva being used for that game, instead of wasted in DA4. Maybe them and the First Nation of the new continent we land in, so we can experience both sides reaction.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 14, 2021 2:46:10 GMT
let's agree to disagree. Antiva family. No, I won’t agree to disagree. You’re wrong. Josephine has an Italian accent played by a VA who has Italian ancestry and both her, her writer, and the other devs explicitly state Antiva is based off Venician Italy. There are a lot of PoC in Italy. So much so back in the day they were discriminated against for not being white. Contrary to popular belief, Italians are not, in fact, Indians. Or even Iraqis. Or any kind of Middle Eastern ethnicity. I know Venicians, nobody looks like that. But fuck it, we had a black Anne Boleyn, a black Troy, why not say Europe was always black? Tar fucking black. I'm black, too. What the fuck would I know? I just live here.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2021 7:28:34 GMT
No, I won’t agree to disagree. You’re wrong. Josephine has an Italian accent played by a VA who has Italian ancestry and both her, her writer, and the other devs explicitly state Antiva is based off Venician Italy. This doesn't really add to the debate as just because someone is the VA of a character doesn't mean they necessarily have to look like them. In fact this picture of Allegra Clark alongside that of Josephine clearly shows that AC has a lighter skin tone than Josephine. Contrary to popular belief, Italians are not, in fact, Indians. Or even Iraqis. Or any kind of Middle Eastern ethnicity. I know Venicians, nobody looks like that. But fuck it, we had a black Anne Boleyn, a black Troy, why not say Europe was always black? Tar fucking black. I'm black, too. What the fuck would I know? I just live here. This highlights the problem of comparing modern day or even ancient cultures in our world with the nations they are said to inspire in Thedas. Just because Venetian medieval culture is said to have influenced how Antiva is portrayed doesn't equate to the native population looking exactly the same. I've also explained in an earlier post why even if the native population of Antiva may originally have been lighter skinned, inter marriage with the natives of Rivain, particularly among the aristocracy, which is after all the class to which Josephine belongs, could have resulted in darker skins such as we find on Josephine. The issue with a black Anne Boleyn is an entirely different one since she is a real historical person in our world for whom we have actual portraits. Thus it was as ridiculous as having a white person play the part of Nelson Mandela. Where it could have been justified would have been if they were using the story of Anne Boleyn but then placing it in an entirely different setting from Tudor England. As for example a Japanese film maker did with the story of Macbeth as portrayed in Shakespeare, or was it King Lear ? Shakespeare's historical plays were simply his interpretation of history; the real Macbeth not being the villain he made him out to be, so taking the source material and then reinterpreting it in another setting is just playing with fiction not fact. This has also previously been done with the play of Julius Caesar, so instead of Ancient Rome it was placed in a modern setting with corresponding military and civilian costumes. This works because you then focus on the themes at play rather than the historical accuracy of the characters. So in this context, they could do the play Julius Caesar with entirely black cast so long as it was clear it was not set in Ancient Rome. Personally, I feel the story of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn has been done to death with dozens of historical dramas, movies, books, docudramas using the source material. The only thing original about that series was the fact they cast Anne Boleyn as black. I watched the first episode and frankly felt sorry for the actress in having to deal with such poor material. As many people pointed out at the time, there is such a wealth of genuine black history that has not been covered by writers and film makers, why not write something totally original to cast talented black thespians in?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 14, 2021 7:32:27 GMT
No, I won’t agree to disagree. You’re wrong. Josephine has an Italian accent played by a VA who has Italian ancestry and both her, her writer, and the other devs explicitly state Antiva is based off Venician Italy. This doesn't really add to the debate as just because someone is the VA of a character doesn't mean they necessarily have to look like them. In fact this picture of Allegra Clark alongside that of Josephine clearly shows that AC has a lighter skin tone than Josephine. I know. But I do know she has mentioned before how much that meant to her (one of many reasons). But anyway, this discussion seems to have run its course. We have the devs words on the loose inspirations for each nation. One reason I want to explore beyond Thedas so we can see what other nations are like.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2021 7:38:14 GMT
I know. But I do know she has mentioned before how much that meant to her that (one of many reasons she appreciates Josephine). Don't get me wrong here. The fact that Antiva is meant to be based on Italy and they used an Italian actress to play her is a good thing, particularly if they want to replicate the accent of a genuine Italian for Josephine. She just doesn't necessarily have to look like a modern Italian, particularly when you take into account the likely intermarriage of the aristocracy with the natives of Rivian, that we know from Isabella are darker skinned.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 14, 2021 7:42:28 GMT
I know. But I do know she has mentioned before how much that meant to her that (one of many reasons she appreciates Josephine). Don't get me wrong here. The fact that Antiva is meant to be based on Italy and they used an Italian actress to play her is a good thing, particularly if they want to replicate the accent of a genuine Italian for Josephine. She just doesn't necessarily have to look like a modern Italian, particularly when you take into account the likely intermarriage of the aristocracy with the natives of Rivian, that we know from Isabella are darker skinned. Oh I know. Was speaking more generally with some of her comments on the subject along with other comments about Antiva from the devs. But yeah, I like how they hired an Italian-American actress to portray her. They did that with a bunch, like Dorian. A lot more studios are doing that, wanting PoC actors to play PoC characters for example. Or non-binary or trans to play those characters, like BioWare did with Jien Garson from MEA.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 14, 2021 7:46:55 GMT
As for example a Japanese film maker did with the story of Macbeth as portrayed in Shakespeare, or was it King Lear ? He's done both. Kurosawa, Akira Kurosawa. He made "Throne of Blood", which is Macbeth and "Ran", which is King Lear.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 14, 2021 7:49:03 GMT
Also I thought Sirpe was just making hypothetical examples. Didn’t realize those were real.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 14, 2021 7:57:23 GMT
Anyway, another reason I want to explore beyond Thedas is because I’m curious how the world developed without the issues Thedas faced, such as Blights. Will they be a lot more advanced? Or crazy time, is the Veil only a bubble around the continent, so are they far more magical? Or the opposite and the Fade is a bubble, so the world outside it never had magic? Are there other advanced races out there? We’ve heard a brief mention of the Fex but know nothing of them.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 14, 2021 8:33:49 GMT
This is something that I really want to explore. As you say, to do this would presumably mean going beyond Thedas because even if we were to delve into the archives of Tevinter or Par Vollen that would only contain their version of history. For example, the Qun claim their ancestors were brutal and savage, needing the strictures of the Qun to control them. They then point to the savagery of the Tal Vashoth to reinforce this view, ignoring the fact that this might be due to the kick back against the life they have just escaped from rather than an innate aspect of their race, plus the difficulty the Tal Vashoth having in living in a world that is prejudiced against them because their race is equated with the Qun. Where did the Kossith originate? Are there still any of the original race left in the world? Why did the Qun feel the need to migrate to Thedas? As for humanity, their existence is even more mysterious. According to the Dalish, the elves first became aware of them when they arrived on Par Vollen from across the sea. What we know about the Neromenians as a sea faring culture would seem to confirm this. However, what about the other humans across Thedas? Did they all start with the Neromenians? Where did the Neromenians come from? Why did they leave? Are there still other humans civilisations somewhere across the sea? There is plenty of scope there for a game of exploration; may be even more than one. Antiva would also be a good jumping off point for such a game because of their sea faring history, including previous abortive attempts to answer some of the questions above by embarking on exploration of the ocean to the east. Yeah, I want to know why the qunari fear the kossith. As for humans, I remember one of the devs saying Rivaini came from a different place hence why they are analogous to black people unlike the Neromenians. And yeah I would have vastly preferred Antiva being used for that game, instead of wasted in DA4. Maybe them and the First Nation of the new continent we land in, so we can experience both sides reaction. Rivaini have a little bit of Asia influence i think. Maybe we find there more Asia culture.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2021 8:37:16 GMT
Are there other advanced races out there? We’ve heard a brief mention of the Fex but know nothing of them. That was another idea of David Gaider that he threw out as a possibility but has never officially been more than something he was toying with when he was lead writer. They were allegedly meant to have been the original inhabitants of Par Vollen I seem to recall but since they were never part of official lore it is entirely possible they were never more than a figment of his imagination. There was certainly no mention of them in WoT2 among the other civilisations that are rumoured to live beyond Thedas. Of these, I find both the Par Ladi and the Voshai intriguing. Or crazy time, is the Veil only a bubble around the continent, so are they far more magical? Or the opposite and the Fade is a bubble, so the world outside it never had magic The fact that the Par Ladi, if they do in fact exist, seem to have superior magic that keeps them shielded from outsiders would suggest magic isn't confined to just Thedas and that possibly the Veil only covers the Continent of Thedas and not beyond. The Voshai were said to have reported a massive cataclysm in their own land. Was this natural or magical? However, much depends on where the Executors originate from. If they literally serve those "across the sea" then what has aroused their interest in Thedas? Did the Breach affect them as well? Do they consider the "Wolf" a true threat to them or are they just wanting to remove him from the picture to leave their own way clear? How does he know of them because clearly he does consider them a threat? If they are the figures we have seen with magical bows, then it would appear their magic is far more advanced than the majority of Thedas. Could it be because they are not affected by the Veil in their homeland?
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 14, 2021 9:05:26 GMT
This highlights the problem of comparing modern day or even ancient cultures in our world with the nations they are said to inspire in Thedas. Just because Venetian medieval culture is said to have influenced how Antiva is portrayed doesn't equate to the native population looking exactly the same. I've also explained in an earlier post why even if the native population of Antiva may originally have been lighter skinned, inter marriage with the natives of Rivain, particularly among the aristocracy, which is after all the class to which Josephine belongs, could have resulted in darker skins such as we find on Josephine. I agree with you. And thank you that you share your knowledge with us. It help a lot.
The problem i see is that Thedas is too similar to our world. when the fans asked if it could snow at the equator, i knew bioware had a problem. There will always be comparisons, although Thedas is a fictional fantasy world. And i believe/get that you and pessimistpanda mean that.
So for Bioware it would be better to mix or create new thinks to get a little bit more away from our world. Tevinter more new perspective on mage than 1001 night.
Maybe they learn and we got a different handling with beyond thedas. the only thing that interests me beyond thedas at the moment are the executors. The qun/Qunari aren't really my think. And i doesn't get any other interessting vibe anywhere.
I would love a race with a blue skin counterplay to the qunari. They are from water as the Qunari are from fire, when i remember right. Simular to the counterplay eleven (sky) - dwarfs (Earth). Then you have all elements together.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 14, 2021 10:48:53 GMT
I would love a race with a blue skin counterplay to the qunari. They are from water as the Qunari are from fire, when i remember right. Simular to the counterplay eleven (sky) - dwarfs (Earth). Then you have all elements together. A blue skinned race would be interesting but I already equate humans with the sea, thus giving us one race for each of the primal elements. This would also raise the idea that may be Mythal was never really an "elven" goddess since in the Dalish myth she is born of the sea the earth's tears, whereas the original elven god, Elgar'nan, was born of the Sun/Air. May be the reason that Mythal ultimately chose a human, Flemeth, for her new mortal form is that she actually identifies more closely with the humans (people of the sea) than the elves.
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Post by yarus on Aug 15, 2021 6:15:55 GMT
This highlights the problem of comparing modern day or even ancient cultures in our world with the nations they are said to inspire in Thedas. Just because Venetian medieval culture is said to have influenced how Antiva is portrayed doesn't equate to the native population looking exactly the same. I agree wholeheartedly. Just because Thedosian countries might have elements inspired by real life history doesn't mean a 1:1 comparison exists. I'd argue that Orlais has far more in common with Song Dynasty era China (meshed together with French aesthetics) rather than France itself, and that's just one country-----yet this description itself is limited since there are probably at least 5 other countries that Orlais could be compared to.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 15, 2021 15:11:58 GMT
No, I won’t agree to disagree. You’re wrong. Josephine has an Italian accent played by a VA who has Italian ancestry and both her, her writer, and the other devs explicitly state Antiva is based off Venician Italy. This doesn't really add to the debate as just because someone is the VA of a character doesn't mean they necessarily have to look like them. In fact this picture of Allegra Clark alongside that of Josephine clearly shows that AC has a lighter skin tone than Josephine. Contrary to popular belief, Italians are not, in fact, Indians. Or even Iraqis. Or any kind of Middle Eastern ethnicity. I know Venicians, nobody looks like that. But fuck it, we had a black Anne Boleyn, a black Troy, why not say Europe was always black? Tar fucking black. I'm black, too. What the fuck would I know? I just live here. This highlights the problem of comparing modern day or even ancient cultures in our world with the nations they are said to inspire in Thedas. Just because Venetian medieval culture is said to have influenced how Antiva is portrayed doesn't equate to the native population looking exactly the same. I've also explained in an earlier post why even if the native population of Antiva may originally have been lighter skinned, inter marriage with the natives of Rivain, particularly among the aristocracy, which is after all the class to which Josephine belongs, could have resulted in darker skins such as we find on Josephine. The issue with a black Anne Boleyn is an entirely different one since she is a real historical person in our world for whom we have actual portraits. Thus it was as ridiculous as having a white person play the part of Nelson Mandela. Where it could have been justified would have been if they were using the story of Anne Boleyn but then placing it in an entirely different setting from Tudor England. As for example a Japanese film maker did with the story of Macbeth as portrayed in Shakespeare, or was it King Lear ? Shakespeare's historical plays were simply his interpretation of history; the real Macbeth not being the villain he made him out to be, so taking the source material and then reinterpreting it in another setting is just playing with fiction not fact. This has also previously been done with the play of Julius Caesar, so instead of Ancient Rome it was placed in a modern setting with corresponding military and civilian costumes. This works because you then focus on the themes at play rather than the historical accuracy of the characters. So in this context, they could do the play Julius Caesar with entirely black cast so long as it was clear it was not set in Ancient Rome. Personally, I feel the story of Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn has been done to death with dozens of historical dramas, movies, books, docudramas using the source material. The only thing original about that series was the fact they cast Anne Boleyn as black. I watched the first episode and frankly felt sorry for the actress in having to deal with such poor material. As many people pointed out at the time, there is such a wealth of genuine black history that has not been covered by writers and film makers, why not write something totally original to cast talented black thespians in? When Patrick Stewart wanted to be Othello, he did his own entire production of it, where he was Othello and the entire rest of the cast was filled by black actors. And let's not forget ScarJo-st in the Shell ("but that's her ROBOT body so it's NOT whitewashing!") and the 47 Ronin adaptation that put in not just Keanu Reeves, but a bunch of english pirates and a whole ton of magical bullshit. That's a true event in Japanese history that Hollywood utterly mangled for the sake of an assumed white audience. And not to mention nearly every major gay or trans character has been played by straight and cis people. Can't help but notice that nobody has ever suggested that The Danish Girl or Dallas Buyers Club would have worked better if they were set on Mars or some bullshit. Theatres in Britain have been practising "colour-blind" casting for ages and the practice is simply moving over to tv and films and such. Casting a black woman to play Anne Boleyn does not mean the show is claiming that she was black, or intending for the audience to read her as black. But if they are (I wouldn't know, I haven't seen it), they could be positing a hypothetical alternate history, like Bridgerton does, don't see the problem with that. There've been dozens of iterations on the "what if the nazis won" concept and people manage to watch Man in the High Castle without gesturing wildly at the TV and screaming "THE NAZIS LOST! STOP TRYING TO GERMAN-WASH EVERYTHING!" Why is anyone struggling with this? You all managed to wrap your brains around Hamilton, right? You know Alexander Hamilton didn't really rap, right? Right? Anyway, not that this segway into what race has what nose and when its okay for black people to be on television hasn't been *highly* entertaining, but back to video games: FFXIV (yes I know I've been mentioning it a lot lately, but it's what I'm playing at the moment and I'm trapped in a snap lockdown for at least 7 days) has all kinds of kooky beast-people and wildlife. I hope that, in the event we move beyond Thedas, that we find more fantastical enviroments, creatures and races, and maybe even get to play as them. I've discovered I have a lot of time for games that let me create a twunky lil cat-boy and dress him up in slutty outfits.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Aug 15, 2021 15:29:17 GMT
in the event we move beyond Thedas, that we find more fantastical enviroments, creatures and races (and maybe even get to play as them). I'm not particularly excited to meet variations of elf, with a mixture of avian/reptile/fish/mammal. Crustaceans, though. That's where it's at. Crab people. With extra armor. And multiple appendages that work as arms, able to quadwield weapons, or dual wield two-handers.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 15, 2021 16:30:42 GMT
Casting a black woman to play Anne Boleyn does not mean the show is claiming that she was black, or intending for the audience to read her as black. But if they are (I wouldn't know, I haven't seen it), they could be positing a hypothetical alternate history, Actually, there was some suggestion of this at the beginning; something about this may or may not have been true (although there was no suggestion of this in the advanced advertising). However, with regard to that particular production, you missed my point. I was quite prepared to watch a black actress in the role but was hoping for some original insight besides that fact because for some reason people are obsessed with Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn and every so often another series or one off special pops up about them. I wouldn't have bothered watching but for the controversy that surrounded the casting, which I suspect was the whole point in casting her because the writing itself was inferior to other productions on the same subject matter. As I say above, the actress in question deserved something better to showcase her talents and I very much hope that in the future she will get it. And not to mention nearly every major gay or trans character has been played by straight and cis people. And I believe this has been raised previously. I would note though being gay is not something necessarily visually obvious and in the past there have been many gay actors playing straight roles with no one being any the wiser until they chose to reveal themselves.
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Post by Gwydden on Aug 15, 2021 16:34:36 GMT
FFXIV (yes I know I've been mentioning it a lot lately, but it's what I'm playing at the moment and I'm trapped in a snap lockdown for at least 7 days) has all kinds of kooky beast-people and wildlife. I hope that, in the event we move beyond Thedas, that we find more fantastical enviroments, creatures and races, and maybe even get to play as them. I've discovered I have a lot of time for games that let me create a twunky lil cat-boy and dress him up in slutty outfits. Why is it every time I see FFXIV game mentioned it is with an emphasis on the cat boys? For that matter, why and when did we collectively decide that humans with feline appendages are sexy? Is this Japan's fault? Of course it is. This isn't the cyberpunk future we needed, but the one we deserve. I am hoping DA4 is a step in a more colorful, fantastical direction, what with the magipunk Tevinter, living hills, and giant turtles. We're well past the mood of gritty subversion they used to sell DA:O, which never quite fit the bill anyway.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 15, 2021 17:24:22 GMT
I don't know, I miss Dragon Age being successful, and I really miss the watercolor world that felt real.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 15, 2021 19:06:21 GMT
I don't know, I miss Dragon Age being successful, and I really miss the watercolor world that felt real. Um, when did DA stop being successful? Their latest game was their most successful one ever.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Aug 15, 2021 19:43:01 GMT
You're right, I just hate what Dragon Age's become since Origins/Awakening/Witch Hunt, their latest I never successfully completed.
And it makes me real sad, because I liked what Exodus aimed for doing, but Inquisition underwhelmed me to a degree I had never felt before.
I just do not want more of that bloated dime a dozen high fantasy.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Aug 16, 2021 1:56:22 GMT
FFXIV (yes I know I've been mentioning it a lot lately, but it's what I'm playing at the moment and I'm trapped in a snap lockdown for at least 7 days) has all kinds of kooky beast-people and wildlife. I hope that, in the event we move beyond Thedas, that we find more fantastical enviroments, creatures and races, and maybe even get to play as them. I've discovered I have a lot of time for games that let me create a twunky lil cat-boy and dress him up in slutty outfits. Why is it every time I see FFXIV game mentioned it is with an emphasis on the cat boys? For that matter, why and when did we collectively decide that humans with feline appendages are sexy? Is this Japan's fault? Of course it is. This isn't the cyberpunk future we needed, but the one we deserve. I am hoping DA4 is a step in a more colorful, fantastical direction, what with the magipunk Tevinter, living hills, and giant turtles. We're well past the mood of gritty subversion they used to sell DA:O, which never quite fit the bill anyway. It probably doesn't help that of the eight available starting races, four are just different-shaped humans and one is the standard lion-man that wrpgs already do all the time. Mi'qote, Au Ra and Viera are where it's at, my friend. I'd actually say FFXIV still doesn't sate my appetite for weird shit. When the bunny boys drop in November, I expect there'll be an influx of those (which I intend to be part of). But it's a shame that they've introduced all sorts of sentient beast-folk, not just lizard and bird people, but sentient insects, snakes, elephant men, etc, that we will never get to play. The creators have said they aren't doing anymore playable races because it's too much work to make all the clothes fit (and fair enough, there are a LOT of clothes).
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 16, 2021 9:13:02 GMT
A blue skinned race would be interesting but I already equate humans with the sea, thus giving us one race for each of the primal elements. This would also raise the idea that may be Mythal was never really an "elven" goddess since in the Dalish myth she is born of the sea the earth's tears, whereas the original elven god, Elgar'nan, was born of the Sun/Air. May be the reason that Mythal ultimately chose a human, Flemeth, for her new mortal form is that she actually identifies more closely with the humans (people of the sea) than the elves. I have saw this coming. I understand your point, even if for me the human race rather represents all elements and thus symbolizes the dare for me. With your point of view, my Point would no longer make sense. if you don't use the Asian elements with metal. But a race contrary to the aggressive and messed up qunari (my opinion) is important. A gentle and sympathetic race, but which can still protect themselves. I want to play more than human and elve.
Mi'qote, Au Ra and Viera are where it's at, my friend. Mi'qote and Viera are no Problem for me. (people with animal characteristics) What i don't like is Hrothgar or Skyrim's Argonians and Khajiit. (beastmen) I'd actually say FFXIV still doesn't sate my appetite for weird shit. So something like this isn't weird enough for you i think, right? or (year, i maybe a little bit Hellboy influenced) or or
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Aug 16, 2021 21:43:05 GMT
For me, the weirder the alien or fantasy race the better. But, I am unsure if the Dragon Age developers have any intention of adding more races to Thedas. They've already got their hands full with trying to depict elf lore, dwarf lore, qunari lore, the lore of various countries... And they haven't even been giving much lore for some of those, which already exist in the world.
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