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Post by biotic on Jul 27, 2021 9:45:29 GMT
If it's half as good as Castelvania, it will be great. Seriously, for all the crappy shows Netflix produces, they do get it right sometimes.
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Post by Pon.ee on Jul 27, 2021 10:14:49 GMT
I kind of hope they'll take a different route and make it more like what we saw in Tevinter Nights, stand alone mini stories per episode rather than an overarching plot for a series. I just thought it was really cool jumping around and seeing different stuff, less stuck in one place that way too.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 27, 2021 10:42:13 GMT
Did they just link themselves as a "trusted and proven source"? They might as well have said, "trust me, bro." Also, doing a DA series doesn't make much since considering how similar style The Witcher is.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 27, 2021 10:56:40 GMT
Did they just link themselves as a "trusted and proven source"? They might as well have said, "trust me, bro." Also, doing a DA series doesn't make much since considering how similar style The Witcher is. while I am skeptical as hell on this I think any similarities to the Witcher would add more credence then less.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 27, 2021 11:01:30 GMT
Pffft. Everyone has a Netflix series in development. *I* have a Netflix series in development.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 27, 2021 11:03:24 GMT
Did they just link themselves as a "trusted and proven source"? They might as well have said, "trust me, bro." Also, doing a DA series doesn't make much since considering how similar style The Witcher is. while I am skeptical as hell on this I think any similarities to the Witcher would add more credence then less. That is, unless if it's an animated series.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 27, 2021 11:04:15 GMT
Pffft. Everyone has a Netflix series in development. *I* have a Netflix series in development. do share.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jul 27, 2021 11:07:05 GMT
Pffft. Everyone has a Netflix series in development. *I* have a Netflix series in development. do share. Get this. It is about a depressed panda who spends all his time bickering with homophobes on the internet and getting his heart broken by bad men.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 27, 2021 11:08:38 GMT
do share. Get this. It is about a depressed panda who spends all his time bickering with homophobes on the internet and getting his heart broken by bad men. Are they also a pessimist?
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Post by azarhal on Jul 27, 2021 11:29:24 GMT
Netflix makes anime adaptation of video game IPs. Live adaptation are kept for book series, some of those series might have a video game adaptation like The Witcher and Dynasty Warrior, but it's not the games that are adapted.
This week they have an animated series based on League of Legend releasing and they released one based on DOTA earlier this year.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 27, 2021 13:59:56 GMT
If true, I wonder when and where it would be set... No shortage of approaches they could take, though my guess is they'll set sometime around the DA4 timeline, to tie into that. Cool. If true, I'd be thinking earlier might be the go, rather than later. Meaning, set it at the turn of the century as the 'Dragon' Age is beginning (or shortly thereafter). Maybe even 25ish years after and focus on the Fereldan rebellion against the Orlesian occupation. Either that, or set it in a nation not featured in a game (not that Hollywood will care about gamers and the shrieks of 'didn't happen in my game', nor should they), but it would allow freedom of story telling without pre-existing narrative baggage. There's definitely a lot of ways they could go, and the Maric timeline is a popular one. I was thinking it might be set around the DA4 timeline so they could help support one another, esp. with the more casual fans.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 27, 2021 14:02:33 GMT
I've seen some other rumors from that site and usually they are complete BS, so I'd take this with a gigantic grain of salt.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 27, 2021 16:31:05 GMT
I dread how they will ruin the characters.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 27, 2021 16:42:56 GMT
I feel pretty confident this is probably nonsense.
But it’s fun to think about the possibilities.
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Post by bierkrug on Jul 27, 2021 18:52:29 GMT
If that's true, please let it be animation. Netflix butchered the live action Witcher with it's casting badly enough.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Jul 27, 2021 20:34:58 GMT
Honestly, if there is an actual series or talks about a potential series, I wouldn't be that shocked. Netflix has been doing video game adaptations lately. Then again, that makes this the perfect fake rumor, doesn't it?
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Post by fortlowe on Jul 27, 2021 22:43:12 GMT
If this is true, hopefully it will be set during a Blight. Moreover, a Blight prior to the the Origins narrative. I might be wrong, or I suspect at least willing to acknowledge a tendency to appreciate a heroic story, but it was the Warden narrative that hooked me on the series without question. Sure, there's a LOT more to Dragon Age than the Wardens and the Blights, and I am very appreciative of that fact. That's why I always thought that EA is underestimating what they have with DA (and perhaps even more so with ME). I think DA could easily occupy the same kind of cultural space LoTR or GoT do. They just gotta let the writers write and fill in from there.
As an example of what I mean is how Microsoft does an excellent job of allowing writers to expand the narrative for Halo with it's extensive catalogue of Novels and Comics accompanying that property. Those books pay for themselves and far, FAR more. Surely it's not lost on Microsoft that those books will eventually make for excellent blueprints for cinematic media. They are even making yet another Halo series (that, I think is still another test run, which is unfortunate because the cast this time is excellent, than a real attempt to truly migrate Halo into the cinematic space). Eventually though, Microsoft is going flex and buy some giant film studio (probably WB/Discovery after they ruin what looks like an fantastic Dune movie) and make a Halo cinematic universe something in line with the Avengers or GoT (before that series started to suck at least).
DA also has a very extensive catalogue of novels of it's own, and I have read and very much like all of them (though I'll admit I haven't read any of the comics). However, I see DA's novels more as lead in to the games, where Halo novels are very clearly extensions of the narrative of the games. Bioware expands the narrative with the games, not the novels. Which actually works better for EA where it wouldn't for Microsoft. Games are an additional source of revenue for Microsoft. Games are the main source of revenue for EA. If EA would let the writers write (which I'm hoping is why DA won't be out till 2023 at the earliest), then they should use the majority of what's written to make games. Inevitably, however, there will be well written material that doesn't fit in the game it was written for, but is still very good. EA could use that otherwise good but wasted material to make another piece of media (I haven't forgotten the topic, I promise!) that better fits the material and expands on DA as a whole. Have a thrilling hostage situation that could be addressed the RPG as a few lines of dialogue? Make it into an adventure game a la The Walking Dead Game. Have a rapturous romance between people outside of the RPG party? Make it into a comic. Have an swashbuckling tale of daring that takes place many years prior to the RPG? Make it a TV series.
All that stuff could make EA buckets of money, because DA and ME have far richer and deeper universes than GoT, the Witcher, or Star Wars. Reaping the fruits of those Universes will require commitment, patience, and invested curation of the source material (ie the difference between the post Disney MCU, which improved over time and most of post Disney Star Wars, which after Rogue One sucked. Not including the TV stuff, of course. This is the way.)
However it's strength, the breadth of the DA narrative, could very well become a problem for the TV series if the production company overthinks it. If they erroneously try to avoid the obvious, like making a Tevinter Chantry drama (or something else that isn't a Blight) as the setting, because for instance the next game is set in Tevinter, well, there's no reason a good show couldn't start there. And given that most of the non-game media for DA has been successful tie ins for the game, it makes a certain amount of sense. However, what you're most likely to get is attention almost exclusively from consumers ALREADY invested in the DA universe watching every bit of it. Because we already know all we need to know to to appreciate the gravity of a show like that. However new consumers might not or likely won't have the patience to invest. But if you make a series following the Wardens in the Fourth Blight? A story about a rag tag group of scruffy malcontents going through hell and high water to save the world in spite of itself? Then stick the landing with a truly satisfying conclusion(looking at you GoT)? LOT'S of new folks are on board for that kinda show. And once you deliver on that you have the REST of Thedas to pursue.
All that said, neither EA nor Bioware will likely have a decision making role in what winds up on screen. But if they do, I dearly hope they don't try re-inventing the wheel and instead make sure this show is set in one of the first four Blights. Any viewer can pick up the narrative from there and all the rest of Dragon Age will be available for further productions if (when) it's successful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 23:06:42 GMT
If this happens, you'll be considered the Tiffany of DA prognosticators.
It would be pretty cool to delve into early DA history, prior to DAO … Logain the hero or early Wardens taking down an Archdemon.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 27, 2021 23:46:21 GMT
A lot of people like the idea of exploring more of DA’s history directly, but I think by title association alone the creators of an animated series would stick to that time period.
It could be earlier in the age, but I would be surprised if they went and covered the first Blight or something.
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Post by phoray on Jul 28, 2021 0:18:20 GMT
Materials outside of the Games have always been Bioware Cannon NOT "my game" cannon. A whole comic book about Alistair's dad, it's been a while and I didn't join the fandom until 2016, but King Alistair looking for his dad can't happen in Drunken/Dead Alistair world states. No drama about that. The statement has always been, "well, the events still happen, just not exactly as written, with other mysterious people who step in to do the deeds."
So they can do whatever the nuggin fudge they want with it, so long as they're cool with the general events of such fudge becoming cannon
For example, Alistair's dad and that Blood Orb always get destroyed.
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Post by fortlowe on Jul 28, 2021 2:35:26 GMT
A lot of people like the idea of exploring more of DA’s history directly, but I think by title association alone the creators of an animated series would stick to that time period. It could be earlier in the age, but I would be surprised if they went and covered the first Blight or something. Fair point. Still, as a point of reference, I would ask: Do you think most people refer to GoT as Game of Thrones or the series' proper name, A Song of Ice and Fire? I mean, even within the extended media for Dragon Age there's a bit of precedent. Last Flight largely takes place prior to the Dragon Age, but it's still called Dragon Age: Last Flight. I know, that book is in the perspective of a recounting occurring in the Dragon Age of events that took place prior, but it seems a little like splitting hairs when regardless of what story anyone tells about Thedas, it will almost assuredly be identified as a Dragon Age yarn to anyone that pursues it.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 28, 2021 3:11:55 GMT
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 28, 2021 7:43:35 GMT
A whole comic book about Alistair's dad, it's been a while and I didn't join the fandom until 2016, but King Alistair looking for his dad can't happen in Drunken/Dead Alistair world states. This is true but for the most part Alistair, Isabella and Varric, even Sten/Arishok for that matter, were consistent with their characters as we knew them in the games. That was my point above. Varric seems now so firmly embedded as a popular character wholly associated with his VA, how would fans react to an alternative Varric who sounded quite different? How would fans react if, say, Morrigan was cast as a different race? I would find it difficult to relate to any character that just had a different voice from the one I was familiar with; Fenris without Gideon Emery anyone? This is why I said it is entirely different converting a video game with well known, iconic characters to a TV or film series as opposed to a popular set of novels. We haven't just imagined them in our heads, we have seen them and heard them. So they can do whatever the nuggin fudge they want with it, so long as they're cool with the general events of such fudge becoming cannon This is where problems can occur between the writers of associated media and the original developers. Now as I understand it, whenever someone is commissioned to write a novel or comic, they have to run a synopsis of the plot past the Bioware lead writer at least, but possibly the whole team, to ensure it doesn't deviate too far from previous canon or impact adversely on where the plot is leading. With the latest comic series, according to the writer the plot was originally going to be different, specifically the involvement of Solas, but they were required to alter the outcome after input from the Bioware team. So Bioware was very much controlling the direction the plot of the comics would take the overall narrative in Thedas. I'm not sure that Netflix would want their writers to be constrained that much. This is generally the case with any TV/film series that is adapting a narrative from another media. Look at GoT. Whilst they were drawing directly from the books, they stuck pretty much to the story in the early instalments, although lost a fair number of minor characters along the way, but even before they ran out of source material they started to deviate from the narrative. This was despite the fact that they did have input from the author. So for the Netflix series to work, not alienate fans of the games and not impact adversely on Bioware's own narrative going forward, it would either have to focus on characters in a current timeline who have nothing whatsoever to do with the ongoing story in the games or they need to take it back to a much earlier period in either the Dragon Age itself or another Age entirely. There is plenty of scope for them to do that and it would give them far more artistic freedom as well.
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Post by phoray on Jul 28, 2021 10:58:49 GMT
I hadn't intended to imply they could plop a black human down in Varric's place and call him Varric.
I am assuming they are going to explore side/prequel content, not actually take characters from the series and species/gender/color flip them. But then I thought there was a complaint that they'd have to worry about the cannon but they haven't for any of their non game material.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 28, 2021 12:30:17 GMT
But then I thought there was a complaint that they'd have to worry about the cannon but they haven't for any of their non game material. It depends what you mean by canon? The writers of associated material do seem to stick to what might be called the "developer canon". This would seem to be a world state that they generally work to and then fudge the stuff that doesn't fit it owing to player choice. That is I assume what happened with the comic series involving Alistair as King. That was probably the most extreme example of this. Other comics have lesser examples, like Sebastian and Varric being good buddies, even though if Hawke let Anders go free Sebastian launched his own Exalted March on Kirkwall, which surely couldn't have pleased Varric. The explanation, of course, is that in the Developer Canon Hawke executed Anders so Sebastian was okay and supported Kirkwall in their efforts to rebuild. There is also the example of a lore change being introduced in the comic series at the instigation of the Bioware writing team when suddenly Qarinus was changed to Ventus. That wasn't the idea of the writers of the comic series but it allowed discussion of this to be chewed over well before the next game, so die-hards will know what is coming and newcomers won't know any different.
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