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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 14, 2021 2:51:40 GMT
By 2027, we might even be on the PS6, already. We still haven't arrived to the PS5 as it is MIA and it's replacement could be delayed in a sustainable way. As fabrication processes shrink, 7nm capacity for PS5/SXEX SoCs will free up. Mobile chips are already on 5nm and come next fall, CPU and GPU production will all be on 5nm as well, as mobile drops to 3nm process. As demand for 7nm diminishes from other companies, MS and SONY will be free to take up as much as they want. Also, AMD is bringing MCM design to GPUs, after their CPU MCM design proved a massive hit, in 5nm and an anticipated 2.5x increase in peak graphics performance, compared to their current top card. Considering that the PS5/XSEX graphical fidelity right now is, as Gamers Nexus showed, on par with a RX 580/GTX 1060, I don't see the current consoles being in the market by 2027. That's the latest I'd expect them to be out of season.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 14, 2021 2:53:26 GMT
Yeah, remember the many Bioware Tweets prior to ME3? I mean, if the promise then is that Mike's "we probably won't see Andromeda in the next game" to "we're giving you full access to Andromeda, in addition to the Milky Way", I'd be pretty blown away. Like, they'd have to churn content out like crazy.
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Post by lordmoral on Nov 14, 2021 3:19:58 GMT
Yeah, remember the many Bioware Tweets prior to ME3? I mean, if the promise then is that Mike's "we probably won't see Andromeda in the next game" to "we're giving you full access to Andromeda, in addition to the Milky Way", I'd be pretty blown away. Like, they'd have to churn content out like crazy. Most of the framework is already established, not that they should re use map assets but it will be like using a previously made written project and copy pasting to a new project and then you add/remove things depending what the story needs to happen and almost all the work is reduced sustantionally however, doing so will bring with it the old bugs and we know that Bioware doesn't care to fix old bugs much less new ones besides, we know they will make the game and modders will likely find 50% items that enhance the game to it's full potential and Bioware will turn a deaf ear. What Bioware should do is map the desired clusters on both galaxies (assuming we get more than one Cluster in Andromeda this time around) and determine what will be the HUBs beside The Citadel and Nexus (a la ME2 with the multiple mini hubs with small fetch quests and proper side quests and how places like Kadara Spaceport work in MEA). Many places can be guessed (MW): Tuchanka, a lift from the Citadel to London, Thessia, Rannoch, Noveria, Feros, Omega, Palaven, Batarian Homeworld, etc. In Andromeda: Nexus, Kadara, Elavaan, Voeld, Havarld, Anya, Eos, Habitat 7, Meridian, etc. Not to mention the ship or ships the MC will use, imagine having both the Tempest and the Normandy usable on top of the new main ship as micro hubs...... If Bioware pulls that off I may consider buying but still, the piss poor treatment they gave the LE left a sour taste with me as I play the LE itself.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 14, 2021 3:26:39 GMT
Other than the SFX designated ship, I doubt we'll be getting any other ship as playable. I also think people put too much stock into that placeholder Angara picture.
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Post by lordmoral on Nov 14, 2021 3:34:44 GMT
Other than the SFX designated ship, I doubt we'll be getting any other ship as playable. I also think people put too much stock into that placeholder Angara picture. People are just making the same mistake of letting hype get the best of them, again.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 14, 2021 4:00:59 GMT
I like the idea of having one protagonist in the Milky Way and another in Andromeda if the game really takes place in both locations. It would sure be a good way to bridge both stories from ME Trilogy and ME Andromeda while they converge into each other. I have to remind people of Mike Gamble's tweet, when asked directly about Andromeda, that it's unlikely we'll see it. Where? Last time I checked he was hinting that we may see Andromeda and the Milky Way.
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Post by bshep on Nov 14, 2021 5:12:38 GMT
I have to remind people of Mike Gamble's tweet, when asked directly about Andromeda, that it's unlikely we'll see it. Where? Last time I checked he was hinting that we may see Andromeda and the Milky Way. Pretty much he was heavly implying Andromeda is not going to be abandoned in this message. No idea how anyone can think otherwise after seeing this tweet.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 14, 2021 7:05:27 GMT
Where? Last time I checked he was hinting that we may see Andromeda and the Milky Way. Pretty much he was heavly implying Andromeda is not going to be abandoned in this message. No idea how anyone can think otherwise after seeing this tweet. Doesn't stop some people from believing that Andromeda will be abandoned.
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Post by Fredward on Nov 14, 2021 7:22:11 GMT
Any word on ending canonization? Cuz synthesis in particular seems like it would need its own game.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 14, 2021 7:40:35 GMT
Any word on ending canonization? Cuz synthesis in particular seems like it would need its own game. No, but I imagine that with the years passed, Bioware could come up with a retcon of sorts.
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Post by wright1978 on Nov 14, 2021 7:41:12 GMT
I have to remind people of Mike Gamble's tweet, when asked directly about Andromeda, that it's unlikely we'll see it. Where? Last time I checked he was hinting that we may see Andromeda and the Milky Way. If so, I look forward to leaving Ryder to be killed in the fade by a giant spider thing.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 14, 2021 10:28:03 GMT
I have to remind people of Mike Gamble's tweet, when asked directly about Andromeda, that it's unlikely we'll see it. Where? Last time I checked he was hinting that we may see Andromeda and the Milky Way.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 14, 2021 11:13:01 GMT
Where? Last time I checked he was hinting that we may see Andromeda and the Milky Way. This can apply also for a post me3 sequel and not only Andromeda. While they might continue from the trilogy with a new protagonist, there's still a 50/50 chance of playing either a new one or Ryder, mw or Andromeda or even both.... I still feel that we're gonna continue from where we left off in Andromeda a few years later, finally communicate with the mw, and then we have the crew flying there for a story that connects both galaxies in a way (maybe the geth? Or maybe something else?), with liara waiting for them. Adding both elements from both galaxies, being able to explore some of the places on the mw and see how they evolved and how some not due to the reapers, maybe even buried cities cause he took inspiration from blade runner 2049. Also see how the places in Andromeda have changed, explore some new places too, what evolvements have been made with the remnant, and also evolvements in the mw. Andromeda is the best way to continue cause it's so much easier to continue building on that story, characters while adding some new ones too, world and the possibilities are infinite. Plus it's so much easier to move all the assets that are already being build, adding new ones will take them very little time and resources. Also they won't have to canonize an ending, it will be like Shepard's choices have been lost in time but we'll see about that.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 14, 2021 11:19:53 GMT
Andromeda is the best way to continue cause it's so much easier to continue building on that story, characters while adding some new ones too, world and the possibilities are infinite I agree it is. And Bioware is well known for making it "easy", especially when it comes to fixing their own mess. But they end up making it worse, every time. Sometimes fixing something, requires the hard way. And if Bioware aren't willing to do things the hard way, when push comes to shove, then I don't know how I can possibly support that.
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Post by wright1978 on Nov 14, 2021 11:26:52 GMT
Andromeda is the best way to continue cause it's so much easier to continue building on that story, characters while adding some new ones too, world and the possibilities are infinite. Plus it's so much easier to move all the assets that are already being build, adding new ones will take them very little time and resources. Also they won't have to canonize an ending, it will be like Shepard's choices have been lost in time but we'll see about that. I'd say its the worst way to continue because trying to build on something that bellyflopped is a terrible idea. Having a Milky Way story that acknowledges the existence of Andromeda in some small way is the best way forward.
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Post by vonuber on Nov 14, 2021 13:49:52 GMT
Linking andromeda and the Milky way is a bad idea mainly due to the passage of time - the milky way will be at minimum 600 years more advanced than andromeda, ignoring any political changes.
For example a cured genophage could mean either a decimated post krogan rebellion 2 waste land, or a krogan empire.
Of course nothing stopping a complete hand wave of all of that.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 14, 2021 14:34:49 GMT
Amusing as it may be to get heated about what plotline or characters one may want, that is a road that leads to sourness and entitlement. BioWare will write the characters and stories they want, regardless. Getting upset that such output doesn't match one's expected fan fiction is a fruitless endeavour. i plan to enjoy it for what it is, though we are literally years off so i'm not planning to devote huge mental or emotional capital on it until then...
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 14, 2021 14:38:42 GMT
Other than the SFX designated ship, I doubt we'll be getting any other ship as playable. I also think people put too much stock into that placeholder Angara picture. People are just making the same mistake of letting hype get the best of them, again. I'm not falling for any hype. I saw Liara in the first teaser trailer. I'm not enthusiastic about it at this time.
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Post by wright1978 on Nov 14, 2021 14:46:10 GMT
Linking andromeda and the Milky way is a bad idea mainly due to the passage of time - the milky way will be at minimum 600 years more advanced than andromeda, ignoring any political changes. For example a cured genophage could mean either a decimated post krogan rebellion 2 waste land, or a krogan empire. Of course nothing stopping a complete hand wave of all of that. I'd say 600 years of Milky Way development is an opportunity. New problems for a new protagonist to wrestle with. Have the Yawg emerged as an issue.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 14, 2021 14:50:51 GMT
Linking andromeda and the Milky way is a bad idea mainly due to the passage of time - the milky way will be at minimum 600 years more advanced than andromeda, ignoring any political changes. For example a cured genophage could mean either a decimated post krogan rebellion 2 waste land, or a krogan empire. Of course nothing stopping a complete hand wave of all of that. I'd say 600 years of Milky Way development is an opportunity. New problems for a new protagonist to wrestle with. Have the Yawg emerged as an issue. Could be a credible threat. Not galaxy-shattering so much as what we might have seen during the Krogan Rebellions. It would almost be interesting to see an ME3 ending where the krogan are on the verge of extinction and how the rest of the galaxy would be kicking themselves for eradicating their best defense against the yahg. We'd have to then assume the krogan had a role (which was suggested in ME3) that was unknown and then have the salarians working like crazy to save them. I actually love the idea of the yahg as the enemy.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 14, 2021 17:41:58 GMT
I've seen some talking about the quarian ark dlc. I don't know if it was on this thread or another but anyways, I found this: www.artstation.com/artwork/aYqvL0He worked for me:a and this is an idea he had for it, nothing official though.
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Post by lordmoral on Nov 14, 2021 18:03:44 GMT
I've seen some talking about the quarian ark dlc. I don't know if it was on this thread or another but anyways, I found this: www.artstation.com/artwork/aYqvL0He worked for me:a and this is an idea he had for it, nothing official though. That one would have made the Refusal ending cannon.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 14, 2021 18:19:19 GMT
I've seen some talking about the quarian ark dlc. I don't know if it was on this thread or another but anyways, I found this: www.artstation.com/artwork/aYqvL0He worked for me:a and this is an idea he had for it, nothing official though. That one would have made the Refusal ending cannon. How?
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 14, 2021 20:24:56 GMT
Linking andromeda and the Milky way is a bad idea mainly due to the passage of time - the milky way will be at minimum 600 years more advanced than andromeda, ignoring any political changes. For example a cured genophage could mean either a decimated post krogan rebellion 2 waste land, or a krogan empire. Of course nothing stopping a complete hand wave of all of that. I'm leaning on a lot of handwaving either way. The really hard consequences of just about any action are what I expect the least to really manifest themselves in whatever this game ends up being about.
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