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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 22, 2023 20:55:47 GMT
Apparently it requires 150GB of storage? I also heard they’re refusing to give out review codes for the PC version. Red flags… Yeah, I might give this a pass on PC, maybe when I get a PS5. Optimism levels dropping 150GB is...whatever...I don't really care about that, but the rest of the required specs speak to a PC Port that could go down in the history books as one of the worst - on release, at any rate. Oh well - I'm now helping my parents renovate their house on Wednesday-Friday, so I'll have an excuse to not dive right in and be able to sit back and see what others think. My PC exceeds all the Ultra specs, but I have reservations about pushing it harder than it needs to (or should) be.
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Apparently it requires 150GB of storage? I also heard they’re refusing to give out review codes for the PC version. Red flags… Yeah, I might give this a pass on PC, maybe when I get a PS5. Optimism levels dropping 150GB is...whatever...I don't really care about that, but the rest of the required specs speak to a PC Port that could go down in the history books as one of the worst - on release, at any rate. Oh well - I'm now helping my parents renovate their house on Wednesday-Friday, so I'll have an excuse to not dive right in and be able to sit back and see what others think. My PC exceeds all the Ultra specs, but I have reservations about pushing it harder than it needs to (or should) be. Will it become the next "Can your PC run Crysis" benchmark?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 23, 2023 0:03:47 GMT
Optimism levels dropping 150GB is...whatever...I don't really care about that, but the rest of the required specs speak to a PC Port that could go down in the history books as one of the worst - on release, at any rate. Oh well - I'm now helping my parents renovate their house on Wednesday-Friday, so I'll have an excuse to not dive right in and be able to sit back and see what others think. My PC exceeds all the Ultra specs, but I have reservations about pushing it harder than it needs to (or should) be. Will it become the next "Can your PC run Crysis" benchmark? Something has to overtake it at some point, right?
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Post by saandrig on Jan 23, 2023 8:31:49 GMT
Will it become the next "Can your PC run Crysis" benchmark? Nah. Crysis was optimized to run the high settings on a prediction how hardware would evolve - that the single core of CPUs would be able to boost to 10GHz. Since the tech took a different turn, Crysis was kinda left hanging, but it was actually optimized in a certain way. Forspoken is obviously completely unoptimized. You can brute force it with strong hardware, but only up to a point. There will inevitably be a point of diminishing returns after which you can't pull more performance no matter the hardware. So it definitely won't be a meme like Crysis, because the cases are quite different. Crysis keeps running better and better if you pump up the single CPU core. Forspoken most likely will hit a dead end in performance even on current hardware.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 23, 2023 14:53:19 GMT
Here's IGN's review. It's not looking good but after what happened with Andromeda and other games I've ended up enjoying dedspite getting low reviwe scoers I don't pay attention to reviews. I still think I'll get a lot of fun out of this game but as to how much we'll see.
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The spread is interesting. From - story is great! To - story is bland. Combat is great! To - find weakness, run around in circles hitting until they die.
Does seem to be a consensus that the story is quite a bit shorter than I'd expected, especially given that they all seem to include a bit of wandering around. 15-20 hours seems to be the norm, which is fine, but you'd expect something that big to last a little longer on the story front.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 23, 2023 20:43:32 GMT
Oof, I just saw someone describe the main character as having “Velma syndrome”, i.e. being a unlikable jerk most of the time. And apparently there’s much overuse of swearing.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 23, 2023 21:08:15 GMT
The spread is interesting. From - story is great! To - story is bland. Combat is great! To - find weakness, run around in circles hitting until they die. Does seem to be a consensus that the story is quite a bit shorter than I'd expected, especially given that they all seem to include a bit of wandering around. 15-20 hours seems to be the norm, which is fine, but you'd expect something that big to last a little longer on the story front. Yeah considering ho wbig the file size is you'd expect it t obe a rathe rlong game. At least hoverin garound 100 hours considering it is supposedly a single player RPG but still. But then I'm quiet a slow player so it'll likel ytake me longer regardless. Don't know when I'll get round to it though as it'll likel ytake a while to clear ou ttha tmuc hspace first.
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Post by saandrig on Jan 25, 2023 11:35:22 GMT
Judging by the initial reception, the game can be described as mediocre at best on PS5. But definitely a hard pass for PC players. It's short, runs like ass (not even a mighty fine ass, Kennet) and there is nothing in terms of story and gameplay that we haven't seen done better by others.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jan 26, 2023 19:56:37 GMT
I haven't played a lot yet (only did the prologue and just left the main city for the first time. My impressions so far: - I like Frey more than I anticipated. When I heard "modern day New Yorker" and heard some snippets of dialogue from the middle of the story in the previews, I was afraid she'd be one of those pseudo-influencer Brooklynites. But it turns out she's a down-on-her-luck squatter/homeless person in Manhattan who is mired in petty crimes and troubles with street gangs. This is perfectly ok and I can sympathize with her attitude much better this way. And yes, she swears a lot and sometimes her modern day attitude is a little too exaggerated to make her stand out in this fantasy land but all in all it's ok. As someone who has lived in NYC for several years now, I don't think she's entirely unbelievable. - Similarly, I was very afraid that her interactions with "cuff", her talking armband would be cringy as hell. and yes, they are cringy sometimes but here as well, I gotta say, they are far less annoying than expected and I do find myself smiling at some of their snarky banter. - While I am sold on those two major characters, the setting is nothing to write home about, I can already tell. I just don't like settings with one central city for all the NPCs and just monster infested wastelands everywhere else. It isn't believable that an isolated city like that could even sustain itself at all and it's also just boring world design. I hated the concept in Anthem and I don't like it here either. - Gameplay is fun so far, though I am not sure it'll be varied enough for this large open world with all it's collectibles and such. Looking at the skill tree, I don't see much variety coming in over time either. I think I may just follow the story at some point if it gets too boring. But we'll see, for now, it's fun and flows well. - Where the game really falls apart a bit is in its tech aspects and visuals. Don't get me wrong, the world looks nice over all and the designs are cool enough but from a purely technical view, it's not exactly overkill. I mean, I have seen graphics like that for quite a few years now in games that run with 60-100FPS on my hardware. Meanwhile Forspoken averages at 51 FPS with some dips into the frigging 30s on 1080p with settings on medium to high and no raytracing with my RTX2070. That's just bad optimization. Even worse, something seems to be wrong with the LoD streaming in some cases because some of the textures in game look like they are out of the 90s. The "Family picture" texture has already become infamous on the internet and it's not the only one, I had a floor, where I honestly couldn't tell if it was supposed to be wood or mud. Apparently higher quality textures do exist in the PS5 version but for whatever reason, they are not loaded in the PC version. Not sure if this is a simple bug or a feeble attempt by the devs to keep performance on some sort of acceptable level. In any case, optimization on PC is non-existent and I am really hoping for an eventual patch for those textures at least. So yeah, all in all, I did go in with a healthy does of skepticism but I my first impressions of the actual content are pretty positive. If you are thinking about playing on PC however, I recommend you wait for a patch to fix the worst of the performance and visual issues ... if it will come.
P.S.: Oh yea, forgot to mention, I had to laugh out loud when I equipped the preorder gear for the first time. Who designed this shit? Razer?
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 26, 2023 21:24:09 GMT
I haven't played a lot yet (only did the prologue and just left the main city for the first time. My impressions so far: - I like Frey more than I anticipated. When I heard modern day new Yorker and heard some snppets of dialogue from the middle of the story in the previews, I was afraid she'd be one of those pseudo-influencer Brooklynites. But it turns out she's a down-on-her-luck squatter/homeless person in Manhattan who is mired in petty crimes and troubles with street gangs. This is perfectly ok and I can sympathize with her attitude much better this way. And yes, she swears a lot and sometimes her modern day attitude is a little too exaggerated to make her stand out in this fantasy land but all in all it's ok. As someone who has live in NYC for several years now, I don't think she's entirely unbelievable. - Similarly, I was very afraid that her interactions with "cuff", her talking armband would be cringy as hell. and yes, they are cringy sometimes but here as well, I gotta say, they are far less annoying than expected and I do find myself smiling at some of their snarky banter. - While I am sold on those two major characters, the setting is nothing to write home about, I can already tell. I just don't like setting with one central city for all the NPCs and just monster infested wasteland everywhere else. It isn't believable that an isolated city like that could even sustain itself at all and it's also just boring world design. I hated the concept in Anthem and I don't like it here either. - Gameplay is fun so far, though I am not sure it'll be varied enough for this large open world with all it's collectibles and such. Looking at the skill tree, I don't see much variety coming in over time either. I think I may just follow the story at some point if it gets too boring. But we'll see, for now, it's fun and flows well. - Where the game really falls apart a bit is in it's tech aspects and visuals. Don't get me wrong, the world looks nice over all and the designs are cool enough but from a purely technical view, it's not exactly overkill. I mean, I have seen graphics like that for quite a few years now in games that run with 60-100FPS on my hardware. Meanwhile Forspoken averages at 51 FPS with some dips into the frigging 30s on 1080p with settings on medium to high and no raytracing with my RTX2070. That's just bad optimization. Even worse, something seems to be wrong with the LoD streaming in some cases because some of the textures in game look like they are out of the 90s. The "Family picture" texture has already become infamous on the internet and it's not the only one, I had a floor, where I honestly couldn't tell if it was supposed to be wood or mud. Apparently higher quality textures do exist in the PS5 version but for whatever reason, they are not loaded in the PC version. Not sure if this is a simple bug or a feeble attempt by the devs to keep performance on some sort of acceptable level. In any case, optimization on PC is non-existent and I am really hoping for an eventual patch for those textures at least. So yeah, all in all, I did go in with a healthy does of skepticism but I my first impressions of the actual content are pretty positive. If you are thinking about playing on PC however, I recommend you wait for a patch to fix the worst of the performance and visual issues ... if it will come. P.S.: Oh yea, forgot to mention, I had to laugh out loud when I equipped the preorder gear for the first time. Who designed this shit? Razer? Are you playing with kbd/m? Or using a controller? If kbd/m, how does it 'handle'?
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Post by AnDromedary on Jan 26, 2023 21:36:51 GMT
Are you playing with kbd/m? Or using a controller? If kbd/m, how does it 'handle'? I play with kb/m. I think it handles fine. I am very used to playing 3rd person games with kb/m though, I am playing everything that way, including Assassin's Creed and Horizon. So maybe I am not such a good measure. But I had no problems so far. After disabling the auto-aim initially, I re-enabled it now because it allows me to concentrate a little more on the movement this way. It's not such a big difference though.
Small tip on the side: In the "accessibility" settings, there are a bunch of useful options. For example, I enabled "auto pickup", so I don't have to stop and pick up items but can just woosh over them. Helps to keep up the flow of movement which is one of the stronger points of the game.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 26, 2023 21:46:45 GMT
Are you playing with kbd/m? Or using a controller? If kbd/m, how does it 'handle'? I play with kb/m. I think it handles fine. I am very used to playing 3rd person games with kb/m though, I am playing everything that way, including Assassin's Creed and Horizon. So maybe I am not such a good measure. But I had no problems so far. After disabling the auto-aim initially, I re-enabled it now because it allows me to concentrate a little more on the movement this way. It's not such a big difference though.
Small tip on the side: In the "accessibility" settings, there are a bunch of useful options. For example, I enabled "auto pickup", so I don't have to stop and pick up items but can just woosh over them. Helps to keep up the flow of movement which is one of the stronger points of the game.
Great - I only use kbd/m, as well. Thank you.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 27, 2023 3:23:47 GMT
I caved. Downloading as we forspeak Don't look at me like that. I waited...like two whole days!
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 27, 2023 5:25:26 GMT
Chapter 1 done.
I can see what some have said about the texture/model quality. It isn't really good enough for title that is one of the first 'new gen' exclusives.
I do not like that there is not a Walk bind key (at least, I haven't found one yet).
Frey is cute as fuck.
Weirdness is happening with the graphics settings. It defaulted to 4K, Ultra High, but is only using 5GB of GPU memory...? Don't think so. The benchmarking was all good, with an average of 104fps.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 27, 2023 10:42:59 GMT
Ok - 4.2 hours played today. Disclaimer; I have been looking forward to this for quite a while, so I have a positive predisposition towards the game. Having said that...Forspoken is...quite a lot of fun. My 4090 rig is barely breaking a sweat. Often the fans aren't even running, despite 4K/Ultra/RT. It looks like the story is short - quite short, in fact - if you just run from main objective to main objective. I'm not doing that, though. Give me an open world (and boy howdy...is it open) and a character that can haul ass like Frey and I will run at the first opportunity. I've reassessed my opinion on the early model textures, as well. The first chapter in New York...yeah, not great...but after that, in Athia things look really sharp. The effects are fantastic, the music is solid and - yes - Frey and Cuff are growing on me quickly as an 'odd couple' set up. The combat could stand to be a little harder. I have died once, but I think I know what I did wrong against a unique creature. Other than that, it has been straightforward, without being "easy". You do have to concentrate. Mild early game spoiler Scenery Not loving the Photo Mode, but it is serviceable.
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 27, 2023 13:18:38 GMT
Well the reviews were having me lean away from trying this, but I might give it a shot next month. I actually finally got a PS5, so it’s a good time. I’m not sure I trust my 2080ti to handle it if it’s as poorly optimized as I’m hearing.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 27, 2023 14:51:45 GMT
Ok - 4.2 hours played today. Disclaimer; I have been looking forward to this for quite a while, so I have a positive predisposition towards the game. Having said that...Forspoken is...quite a lot of fun. My 4090 rig is barely breaking a sweat. Often the fans aren't even running, despite 4K/Ultra/RT. It looks like the story is short - quite short, in fact - if you just run from main objective to main objective. I'm not doing that, though. Give me an open world (and boy howdy...is it open) and a character that can haul ass like Frey and I will run at the first opportunity. I've reassessed my opinion on the early model textures, as well. The first chapter in New York...yeah, not great...but after that, in Athia things look really sharp. The effects are fantastic, the music is solid and - yes - Frey and Cuff are growing on me quickly as an 'odd couple' set up. The combat could stand to be a little harder. I have died once, but I think I know what I did wrong against a unique creature. Other than that, it has been straightforward, without being "easy". You do have to concentrate. Mild early game spoiler Scenery Not loving the Photo Mode, but it is serviceable. Yeah that's why I left my order for it active because thes edays if I se ea game and like the look of it chances ae rI'll enjoy it regardless of how it's reviewed. I'm not saying I'm no tgoing t orun int oproblems or anything.But yeah I've heard it is a bit short but I don't mind short if the games fun enough in general. I haven' tgot round to downloading and playing ye tas I need t odo a bit of spring cleaning to make room but I'm lookin gforward t ortying it out an dfortming m yown opinions on the game. Whils tI am a little concerned about how I'll handle combat I think it's still a game I'll hav efun with. I'm hopeful with the accessibility settings and difficulty set to Easy I should be fine. Probabl ywill give it a go once I'm done with Forza Horizon.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 27, 2023 20:21:37 GMT
AnDromedary - have you noticed any ‘bugs’? I mean, the optimisation/performance is one thing, but when I woke up this morning, I realised that I can’t remember encountering a single bug/glitch…anything.
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Post by talyn82 on Jan 27, 2023 20:29:57 GMT
Here's IGN's review. It's not looking good but after what happened with Andromeda and other games I've ended up enjoying dedspite getting low reviwe scoers I don't pay attention to reviews. I am the same way two of my favorite BioWare games are Andromeda and Dragon Age 2 and to this day they are still considered the worst of their respective series'. But I hardly go by reviews anymore unless it's by verified owners of the game.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jan 27, 2023 21:09:20 GMT
AnDromedary - have you noticed any ‘bugs’? I mean, the optimisation/performance is one thing, but when I woke up this morning, I realised that I can’t remember encountering a single bug/glitch…anything. No, apart from the blurry textures (which is a pretty big deal though), I haven't really encountered any bugs.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 28, 2023 0:17:32 GMT
Here's IGN's review. It's not looking good but after what happened with Andromeda and other games I've ended up enjoying dedspite getting low reviwe scoers I don't pay attention to reviews. I am the same way two of my favorite BioWare games are Andromeda and Dragon Age 2 and to this day they are still considered the worst of their respective series'. But I hardly go by reviews anymore unless it's by verified owners of the game. Yeah same with Gotham Knights last year granted the games not perfect but it's not as bad as some made out Combat in general for Gotham Knights is prett yfun. Onl yissues I had was moer to d owit hthe timed missoins as you don' tge tmuc htime t ofind you rtarget and getto it and the Boss fights which can be tricky as well given you have t oconstantl yon the mov et ododge the attacks. Becaus eeven on Eas yI've found health goes down pretty quick in the gameI hav efound som echeats tha tmigh thelp e when I g oback in to tr yagain but I haven't gone back in to try yet.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 28, 2023 10:05:53 GMT
So the side quests (called Detours, here)...aren't the best. They mostly involve following cats to pick up dolls.
The optional dungeons seem cool, though.
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