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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 29, 2023 21:52:23 GMT
We’re going on a Tanta hunt Newly accessed area using Photo Mode to up contrast, colour saturation etc Same area with unfiltered/enhanced ‘gameplay’ visuals (slightly different spot, though) New area has new enemies, although like most of the games monsters, they are no threat individually or in pairs. The danger is in numbers. So Frey noped out hard when she emerged from a Refuge to see a scene ripped straight from the early nightmare fuel of The Walking Dead. Dozens of Break Zombies milling around along the path she needed to take. Did another Labyrinth with a new cloak as the reward and farmed plenty of Mana. I’ve nearly acquired all of the Purple magic spells. It prompted me to Google how/when other magics are acquired. Turns out it is tied to story advancement, with apparently one of the best spells - according to the article writer - not opening up until the main story is finished. Which isn’t ideal, and certainly not how I prefer to play, but it seems like the devs want the player to more or less focus on the story, and do the ‘open worlding’ afterwards, with all spells unlocked or available. Bit of a bummer, but it is what it is.
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Post by saandrig on Jan 30, 2023 8:35:52 GMT
Which isn’t ideal, and certainly not how I prefer to play, but it seems like the devs want the player to more or less focus on the story, and do the ‘open worlding’ afterwards, with all spells unlocked or available. Bit of a bummer, but it is what it is. Come on, invest 10 hours to finish the main story and roam with a full arsenal 😜
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Post by AnDromedary on Jan 30, 2023 17:06:07 GMT
Which isn’t ideal, and certainly not how I prefer to play, but it seems like the devs want the player to more or less focus on the story, and do the ‘open worlding’ afterwards, with all spells unlocked or available. Bit of a bummer, but it is what it is. Come on, invest 10 hours to finish the main story and roam with a full arsenal 😜 Is this you own experience or did you hear that? Because i heard that, too and frankly, I don't get it.
I just killed the first boss and I am about 18 hours in. And it's not like I did absolutely everything in the open wrld or whatever, I just did all the PoIs that were roughly on my way to the next story marker and explored a little here and there. I am not the fastest gamer and I spend some time also on always reading the codex entries but still this doesn't really track. Sure, you can probably speedrun the game in that time if you just run past everything and stoically go the next marker but who plays an open world game like that?
That said, the open world is one of the major downsides for me. Yes, it's pretty but I really don't like these large worlds that are filled with absolutely nothing but monsters and generic challenges. I am going to finish the story for sure but I can say now, I will have no motivation whatsoever to roam around there afterwards.
Two tips for new players: 1. Don't forget to always have three spell challenges active (from the bookshelves in the refuges). Most of them are pretty easy to complete and they give you some nice bonus stats. 2. If there was a tutorial for this I missed it but be aware, in the upgrade crafting menu, not only can you craft three special properties onto your cloak and necklace, you can also upgrade the stats themselves (left upper corner of the screen). Some stat updates require you to unlock them via spells (like health for cloaks needs you to learn "vivify" first) but others can just be upgraded from the start with the proper resources. I only realized this rather late but I upgraded my "purple magic" by 40 points and now I am doing some real damage.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 30, 2023 19:50:24 GMT
Is this you own experience or did you hear that? Because i heard that, too and frankly, I don't get it.
I just killed the first boss and I am about 18 hours in. And it's not like I did absolutely everything in the open wrld or whatever, I just did all the PoIs that were roughly on my way to the next story marker and explored a little here and there. I am not the fastest gamer and I spend some time also on always reading the codex entries but still this doesn't really track. Sure, you can probably speedrun the game in that time if you just run past everything and stoically go the next marker but who plays an open world game like that? Looks like we're at about the same spot. I've also just finished the first boss and have left Cipal again on the next task - just over 15 hours in. One of the websites - forget which one now - posted a guide of 'how long each chapter is', and some of them are really quite short, but like you say, who plays open world games just charging through the main objective?? I've done some of the side quests and some of the PoI. But like you, certainly not all. That said, the open world is one of the major downsides for me. Yes, it's pretty but I really don't like these large worlds that are filled with absolutely nothing but monsters and generic challenges. I am going to finish the story for sure but I can say now, I will have no motivation whatsoever to roam around there afterwards. This is where we part ways in terms of opinion; I will almost certainly play on - for a little while, at least - after the main story. I want to kill those damned Mutants. Every one I've encountered has kicked my ass six ways from Sunday. Two tips for new players: 1. Don't forget to always have three spell challenges active (from the bookshelves in the refuges). Most of them are pretty easy to complete and they give you some nice bonus stats. 2. If there was tutorial for this I missed it but be aware, in the upgrade crafting menu, not only can you craft three special properties onto your cloak and necklace, you can also upgrade the stats themselves (left upper corner of the screen). Some stat updates require you to unlock them via spells (like health for cloaks needs you to learn "vivify" first) but others can just be upgraded from the start with the proper resources. I only realized this rather late but I upgraded my "purple magic) by 40 points and now I am doing some real damage. Oh - snap. Didn't know about 2...thank you. The Spell challenges are a fun little inclusion - wish I'd started them earlier... --------------- Dialogue is growing on me. It is not - and likely won't ever be - award winning. But it doesn't deserve the hate. There have been a number of moments where I actually laughed, or could relate. Saw on Mastodon this morning one of those "you have to spend 24 hours in the world of the last game you played...what are you doing?" And I immediately thought of a scene shortly before the first Tanta fight where Frey hides in a cave. "This place fucking suuuuuuuucks."
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Jan 31, 2023 19:44:08 GMT
Patch 1.02 - Improves performance! On Steam Deck.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 1, 2023 19:59:47 GMT
AnDromedary - how far have you progressed since your last update?
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 1, 2023 20:34:06 GMT
AnDromedary - how far have you progressed since your last update? Well, not that much further. Didn't get to play that much the last few days. I did quite a bot of the open world stuff in Avoalet and just got into the area where the ballow trees are. Time to get some sap.
Found a beautiful new blue cloak though and had to collect a lot of herbs to upgrade it again. It's a bit weird really. It seems the devs want you to be able to change your equipment easily according to optics,, which is why you can craft every property on every item once discovered but then, for each item you have to spend an enormous amount of resources to upgrade the stats again, so you have to carefully weigh which ones you want to wear longer term after all.There are quite a few such inconsistencies in the game design IMO.
Anyway, I didn't progress much, I did however test Forspoken on my Steam Deck since the recent patch notes mentioned it specifically and I was interested to see if it runs and how. Result: It does run but not great. I ran the benchmark with the default setting that you get when starting the game on the Deck (which are the "low" graphics settings). Average FPS was a decent 53 but it did dip into the 20s in certain locations and you could see visible stuttering. Load times also were quite a bit longer than on my normal PC (about 30 seconds per region vs. about 12-18 on the PC) despite the fact that I had the game installed on the Deck's NVMe SSD, whereas on my PC it sits on a SATA. Anyway, I then played for about 5 minutes, which worked ok in the (apparently not that demanding) Avoalet region. For funzies, I then tried to increase the graphics settings to "standard" at which point my Steam Deck hard-crashed after about a minute and needed to be manually restarted. Given how fast the fans were turning, i guess it got a little hot. In the about 7 minutes that I ran the game, the battery was drained by 13%.
After this short excursion, I purged the game from the Deck and will not go back. Technically it runs but I doubt anyone will really be happy with iy there. Valve does also list it as "not supported" and from what I've seen, they should probably keep it that way.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 1, 2023 20:37:52 GMT
Given how fast the fans were turning, i guess it got a little hot. In the about 7 minutes that I ran the game, the battery was drained by 13%. Oof. That's not the best. Good on you for trying, though. I'm going to wait until I've finished the main story before trying it on my 2nd PC. Well, not that much further. Didn't get to play that much the last few days. I did quite a bot of the open world stuff in Avoalet and just got into the area where the ballow trees are. Time to get some sap. Will be interested in your take on what happens shortly after this.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 2, 2023 18:24:03 GMT
Will be interested in your take on what happens shortly after this. Hmmm, not sure what exactly you mean. I'll just go through the stuff I've played yesterday: 1. Tanta Prev: I liked the pre-bossfight-banter. Her schizophrenia was hella severe. But Frey's "Ok, if you gonna rime everything, kill me now." was hilarious. The boss fight itself (as well as the next one, see below) was easy enough. I probably dicked around a little too much in the open world (although I didn't do everything by a long shot) but it seems I am completely overpowered for all the story content already. 2. The "big reveal": I mean, come on, if one didn't see that one coming one did not pay attention. In fact, when I started the game and had just done the prologue, a friend of mine posted a picture of the blurry textures of Auden's family portrait. He just called the "family picture with a lot of relevance for the story" and I was already like "come on man, that's a spoiler for Frey's backstory". Well, turns out I was wrong about that particular picture but right about the story. Best part of that was the final dialogue with cuff (quoting here from memory): Cuff: "How should I address you now? Your Majesty? Your Grace? Dame?" Frey: "Oh shut the fuck up." Cuff: "That's ma girl." 3. Frey's "rock bottom" moment. Well, she does act like a bitch there for a while after Break Bob dies but honestly, while I may not entirely get it, I at least can accept that her entire life she had to look out for herself and she's not going to stop now, just because someone asks. I may not like it but it does kinda make sense. Of course, we all know that she'll come around eventually, in that sense, the whole game is a little too predictable. 4. Fake NYC: A fun little distraction from the usual for sure but also a little too narrow and corridor like. Having a whole section of midtown to really explore and parkour through would have been great but the way it was done, you can totally tell that they just re-used the prologue map and saved costs on everything else. That's fair I guess but it did show and that's not great. That's how far I've gotten for now. Tonight it's off to good ol' Olas.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 2, 2023 19:37:33 GMT
Will be interested in your take on what happens shortly after this. Hmmm, not sure what exactly you mean. I'll just go through the stuff I've played yesterday: 1. Tanta Prev: I liked the pre-bossfight-banter. Her schizophrenia was hella severe. But Frey's "Ok, if you gonna rime everything, kill me now." was hilarious. The boss fight itself (as well as the next one, see below) was easy enough. I probably dicked around a little too much in the open world (although I didn't do everything by a long shot) but it seems I am completely overpowered for all the story content already. 2. The "big reveal": I mean, come on, if one didn't see that one coming one did not pay attention. In fact, when I started the game and had just done the prologue, a friend of mine posted a picture of the blurry textures of Auden's family portrait. He just called the "family picture with a lot of relevance for the story" and I was already like "come on man, that's a spoiler for Frey's backstory". Well, turns out I was wrong about that particular picture but right about the story. Best part of that was the final dialogue with cuff (quoting here from memory): Cuff: "How should I address you now? Your Majesty? Your Grace? Dame?" Frey: "Oh shut the fuck up." Cuff: "That's ma girl." 3. Frey's "rock bottom" moment. Well, she does act like a bitch there for a while after Break Bob dies but honestly, while I may not entirely get it, I at least can accept that her entire life she had to look out for herself and she's not going to stop now, just because someone asks. I may not like it but it does kinda make sense. Of course, we all know that she'll come around eventually, in that sense, the whole game is a little too predictable. 4. Fake NYC: A fun little distraction from the usual for sure but also a little too narrow and corridor like. Having a whole section of midtown to really explore and parkour through would have been great but the way it was done, you can totally tell that they just re-used the prologue map and saved costs on everything else. That's fair I guess but it did show and that's not great. That's how far I've gotten for now. Tonight it's off to good ol' Olas. 1. Yeah - that whole interaction was great. I thought that fight was pretty good, but feel like some the powers Frey inherits from her should be more powerful than they are. The manipulation of water is the manipulation of life. The fake-out after passing the trials made me laugh as well. For the briefest second I thought, oh - she's going to let me go. 2. This is the one I was referring to. I definitely wasn't paying enough attention, then. I noticed they lingered on Tanta Cinta in the hallway before the battle with Sila, but honestly she looks more like Auden than Frey. The banter between Frey and Cuff has improved considerably as the story has progressed. I do wish there was a bit more variety in the repeatable dialogue, though. 3. Poor Break Bob. I've got to say, I think the motivations and emotions of Frey are working pretty well for me. I don't know what it is like to have been a homeless black woman in the US for 21 years...but I can imagine and easily believe that she is well and truly done with not catching a break - sorry - or two. She pinned everything on Bob, and she had it ripped away from her after killing someone, which she'd been adamant she wouldn't do again. 4. I'm actually good with the re-used environment, here. It leans in to the familiar but different of the 'dream within a dream'. Kind of a short hand for us - the player (or audience if it is a TV show/movie) - so that we know something is up, but it is believable that the character is fooled, if only for a short time. Cuff as the waiter was gold. Good luck with Olas - I haven't reached her yet, but there is an encounter before her that wiped me four times.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 2, 2023 19:56:40 GMT
Hmmm, not sure what exactly you mean. I'll just go through the stuff I've played yesterday: 1. Tanta Prev: I liked the pre-bossfight-banter. Her schizophrenia was hella severe. But Frey's "Ok, if you gonna rime everything, kill me now." was hilarious. The boss fight itself (as well as the next one, see below) was easy enough. I probably dicked around a little too much in the open world (although I didn't do everything by a long shot) but it seems I am completely overpowered for all the story content already. 2. The "big reveal": I mean, come on, if one didn't see that one coming one did not pay attention. In fact, when I started the game and had just done the prologue, a friend of mine posted a picture of the blurry textures of Auden's family portrait. He just called the "family picture with a lot of relevance for the story" and I was already like "come on man, that's a spoiler for Frey's backstory". Well, turns out I was wrong about that particular picture but right about the story. Best part of that was the final dialogue with cuff (quoting here from memory): Cuff: "How should I address you now? Your Majesty? Your Grace? Dame?" Frey: "Oh shut the fuck up." Cuff: "That's ma girl." 3. Frey's "rock bottom" moment. Well, she does act like a bitch there for a while after Break Bob dies but honestly, while I may not entirely get it, I at least can accept that her entire life she had to look out for herself and she's not going to stop now, just because someone asks. I may not like it but it does kinda make sense. Of course, we all know that she'll come around eventually, in that sense, the whole game is a little too predictable. 4. Fake NYC: A fun little distraction from the usual for sure but also a little too narrow and corridor like. Having a whole section of midtown to really explore and parkour through would have been great but the way it was done, you can totally tell that they just re-used the prologue map and saved costs on everything else. That's fair I guess but it did show and that's not great. That's how far I've gotten for now. Tonight it's off to good ol' Olas. 1. Yeah - that whole interaction was great. I thought that fight was pretty good, but feel like some the powers Frey inherits from her should be more powerful than they are. The manipulation of water is the manipulation of life. The fake-out after passing the trials made me laugh as well. For the briefest second I thought, oh - she's going to let me go. 2. This is the one I was referring to. I definitely wasn't paying enough attention, then. I noticed they lingered on Tanta Cinta in the hallway before the battle with Sila, but honestly she looks more like Auden than Frey. The banter between Frey and Cuff has improved considerably as the story has progressed. I do wish there was a bit more variety in the repeatable dialogue, though. 3. Poor Break Bob. I've got to say, I think the motivations and emotions of Frey are working pretty well for me. I don't know what it is like to have been a homeless black woman in the US for 21 years...but I can imagine and easily believe that she is well and truly done with not catching a break - sorry - or two. She pinned everything on Bob, and she had it ripped away from her after killing someone, which she'd been adamant she wouldn't do again. 4. I'm actually good with the re-used environment, here. It leans in to the familiar but different of the 'dream within a dream'. Kind of a short hand for us - the player (or audience if it is a TV show/movie) - so that we know something is up, but it is believable that the character is fooled, if only for a short time. Cuff as the waiter was gold. Good luck with Olas - I haven't reached her yet, but there is an encounter before her that wiped me four times. Just on 2: To be clear, I had no idea that Tanta Cinta would be the mother. I only thought it was pretty obvious from the start that Frey was originally from Athia. I mean, an abandoned baby, found under mysterious circumstances at exactly the spot where you then find Cuff and get teleported into the other dimension? That was pretty clear indeed. As for Cinta herself, since we haven't met her at all yet at the time of the reveal, there wasn't too much tofeel about her specifically being the mother. I am curious to find out what the eventual encounter with her will be like though. I suppose there will be some swearing involved on Frey's part...
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 2, 2023 20:05:36 GMT
Ohhh...Ok, sorry - I misunderstood. Yeah - the exact spot, the only human to survive the Break unharmed (other than the Tantas) - that all pointed one way.
I was referring to Cinta, specifically, the Tanta of Love as the mother. And a theory...Athia was either already experiencing the Break, or, as a Tanta, Cinta knew it was coming and what it meant and she travelled to Earth so her daughter could grow up free of it. The fly in the ointment is Cuff. He said he was a messenger to Athia and the Tantas and they turned him in to the bracelet. A bracelet just like the ones the Tantas have.
I do not subscribe to coincidence. And yeah - the language will make sailors blush.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 2, 2023 22:40:22 GMT
Ohhh...Ok, sorry - I misunderstood. Yeah - the exact spot, the only human to survive the Break unharmed (other than the Tantas) - that all pointed one way.
I was referring to Cinta, specifically, the Tanta of Love as the mother. And a theory...Athia was either already experiencing the Break, or, as a Tanta, Cinta knew it was coming and what it meant and she travelled to Earth so her daughter could grow up free of it. The fly in the ointment is Cuff. He said he was a messenger to Athia and the Tantas and they turned him in to the bracelet. A bracelet just like the ones the Tantas have.
I do not subscribe to coincidence. And yeah - the language will make sailors blush. Theory sounds legit. Concerning Cuff: I don't trust him. He starts more and more to push an agenda on Frey.
Also, and I don't want to say too much here, I made the mistake of looking up some of the VAs and their credits on the Forspoken IMDB page. Now, I am not sure yet if it will really come out this way but if it does go they way you could read it from those credits, there is a big spoiler there. So maybe don't go to the IMDB page before playing through the story.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 2, 2023 23:41:39 GMT
Ohhh...Ok, sorry - I misunderstood. Yeah - the exact spot, the only human to survive the Break unharmed (other than the Tantas) - that all pointed one way.
I was referring to Cinta, specifically, the Tanta of Love as the mother. And a theory...Athia was either already experiencing the Break, or, as a Tanta, Cinta knew it was coming and what it meant and she travelled to Earth so her daughter could grow up free of it. The fly in the ointment is Cuff. He said he was a messenger to Athia and the Tantas and they turned him in to the bracelet. A bracelet just like the ones the Tantas have.
I do not subscribe to coincidence. And yeah - the language will make sailors blush. Theory sounds legit. Concerning Cuff: I don't trust him. He starts more and more to push an agenda on Frey.
Also, and I don't want to say too much here, I made the mistake of looking up some of the VAs and their credits on the Forspoken IMDB page. Now, I am not sure yet if it will really come out this way but if it does go they way you could read it from those credits, there is a big spoiler there. So maybe don't go to the IMDB page before playing through the story. Interesting. Something is off, for sure. But I had largely put that down to him appearing to not fully remember what/who he was before the cuffening.
He's weirdly aggressive in some situations and alternates between genuine concern for Frey and self-serving concern for her (ie - if you die, I'm stuck here - kind of thing).
The desire to have Frey go after the Tantas could simply be concern for the people of Athia. Or it could be revenge for the cuffening. Or it could be something more complex.
I'll follow your advice and not check out the IMDB for the game.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 3, 2023 11:11:54 GMT
I'm now in the final chapter, but it's after midnight and I'm shattered. That was a hell of a lot of information I just got, though. I've seen some reviews that say 'Forspoken gets interesting just before it ends', and words to that effect. While I've been interested from the start, I can see where those people are coming from. Damn. Also - finally - got a couple of rare (less than 10%) achievements.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 3, 2023 18:11:55 GMT
I'm now in the final chapter, but it's after midnight and I'm shattered. That was a hell of a lot of information I just got, though. I've seen some reviews that say 'Forspoken gets interesting just before it ends', and words to that effect. While I've been interested from the start, I can see where those people are coming from. Damn. Also - finally - got a couple of rare (less than 10%) achievements. Same here but I actually did the irresponsible thing and just kept going after midnight until the early morning hours. But now I am through with everything I want to do in the game. After seeing the final chapters, I can only repeat my spoiler warning: Do not look at the IMDB page of the game before playing through it. So eah, Cuff was Sussurus, the daemon. Just for those who do ont want to look at IMDB, the VA is credited there as voicing "Cuff/Sussurus", so it's right there. The only reason I was not 100% sure was because sometimes VAs will voice multiple characters, especially if one of them has a filter but in this case, it was straight up the same guy. I think one could see it coming even without being spoiled but since I have been, it's tough to say. All that said, I did like the story. I have seen the game getting a lot flak for it's story and I have to disagree. I thought the story was perfectly fine, not one of the greats maybe but perfectly fine. The English voice work is also fitting and I have no complaints there (I heard that e.g. the German one is very bad). In the end, there is a very good resolution for most of the character, especially some of the antagonists. And throughout the game, I very much enjoyed Frey as a character and her banter with Cuff especially. My major complaint is really the game design, specifically the open world. This IMO is how not to do an open world. Yes, it's huge and in places it is beautiful but the devs filled it with about 10 different types of PoIs/activities and just repeat them ad nauseum. Now, the combat is actually pretty good, so this wouldn't be so bad if there was something to discover. But there really isn't. All quests, all NPCs are in the central city and everything else is basically a (hand-built but still generic) wasteland. Yes, Assassin's Creed Valhalla has the basically the same game world design but the difference there is that I can at least find a village around the next corner, where there are people, who might have a more or less interesting story to tell or a side quests or whatever. And don't get me started on the "dungeons" in Forspoken, which are all the same setup with 3 square rooms with smaller enemies, connected by straight corridors and one large circular room with a boss at the end. There is simply nothing worthwhile to discover in this world outside of the story and that's why this is probably the first open world game which I actually like where I can't even bothered to explore the map fully, not to mention doing all those PoIs. As mentioned, the combat is pretty good, in the later game it really focuses a lot on evasion but that's fine. There are really a lot of spells but most of them you'll never really need. Also, about one quarter you'll only unlock at the very end of the story and with so little to explore afterward, unless you really want to grind in the open world after the game is finished, you'll never really get to use it. But otherwise, the combat is fun. Ah well, it's fine. The story was fun and I did some of the world stuff on the side while going towards the objectives. In the end, I played for 35 hours, which is decent. Also, it may be good to quit now because my little finger is starting to cramp up from pressing Ctrl so much. Anyway, summary: - Story: Pretty good - Characters and dialogue: Pretty good - Combat: Pretty fun - World/quest design: I hate it All in all, I give 7/10 crazy mage-ladies.
P.S.: Service notice: There is post ending content. The game will drop you into the main menu but hit "continue" and it will ... well continue.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 3, 2023 21:03:24 GMT
I'm now in the final chapter, but it's after midnight and I'm shattered. That was a hell of a lot of information I just got, though. I've seen some reviews that say 'Forspoken gets interesting just before it ends', and words to that effect. While I've been interested from the start, I can see where those people are coming from. Damn. Also - finally - got a couple of rare (less than 10%) achievements. Same here but I actually did the irresponsible thing and just kept going after midnight until the early morning hours. But now I am through with everything I want to do in the game. After seeing the final chapters, I can only repeat my spoiler warning: Do not look at the IMDB page of the game before playing through it. So eah, Cuff was Sussurus, the daemon. Just for those who do ont want to look at IMDB, the VA is credited there as voicing "Cuff/Sussurus", so it's right there. The only reason I was not 100% sure was because sometimes VAs will voice multiple characters, especially if one of them has a filter but in this case, it was straight up the same guy. I think one could see it coming even without being spoiled but since I have been, it's tough to say. All that said, I did like the story. I have seen the game getting a lot flak for it's story and I have to disagree. I thought the story was perfectly fine, not one of the greats maybe but perfectly fine. The English voice work is also fitting and I have no complaints there (I heard that e.g. the German one is very bad). In the end, there is a very good resolution for most of the character, especially some of the antagonists. And throughout the game, I very much enjoyed Frey as a character and her banter with Cuff especially. My major complaint is really the game design, specifically the open world. This IMO is how not to do an open world. Yes, it's huge and in places it is beautiful but the devs filled it with about 10 different types of PoIs/activities and just repeat them ad nauseum. Now, the combat is actually pretty good, so this wouldn't be so bad if there was something to discover. But there really isn't. All quests, all NPCs are in the central city and everything else is basically a (hand-built but still generic) wasteland. Yes, Assassin's Creed Valhalla has the basically the same game world design but the difference there is that I can at least find a village around the next corner, where there are people, who might have a more or less interesting story to tell or a side quests or whatever. And don't get me started on the "dungeons" in Forspoken, which are all the same setup with 3 square rooms with smaller enemies, connected by straight corridors and one large circular room with a boss at the end. There is simply nothing worthwhile to discover in this world outside of the story and that's why this is probably the first open world game which I actually like where I can't even bothered to explore the map fully, not to mention doing all those PoIs. As mentioned, the combat is pretty good, in the later game it really focuses a lot on evasion but that's fine. There are really a lot of spells but most of them you'll never really need. Also, about one quarter you'll only unlock at the very end of the story and with so little to explore afterward, unless you really want to grind in the open world after the game is finished, you'll never really get to use it. But otherwise, the combat is fun. Ah well, it's fine. The story was fun and I did some of the world stuff on the side while going towards the objectives. In the end, I played for 35 hours, which is decent. Also, it may be good to quit now because my little finger is starting to cramp up from pressing Ctrl so much. Anyway, summary: - Story: Pretty good - Characters and dialogue: Pretty good - Combat: Pretty fun - World/quest design: I hate it All in all, I give 7/10 crazy mage-ladies.
P.S.: Service notice: There is post ending content. The game will drop you into the main menu but hit "continue" and it will ... well continue. After the Prav fight, I’ve basically been dragged along into the story, so haven’t actually done any more open worlding. I’m at just over 20 hours. I think I’ll probably do some open worlding after I’m done, but it will depend on how I feel. The info dump was amazing, but I think it went on a bit too long. ‘This could have been an email’ sort of situation. However I end up feeling about this game, once all is said and done, though; one thing I am certain about. Ella Balinkski is a very, very good VA.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 3, 2023 22:28:46 GMT
However I end up feeling about this game, once all is said and done, though; one thing I am certain about. Ella Balinkski is a very, very good VA. Agreed. This could easily have been cringy as heck. She does a great job with a pretty difficult role to pull off just right. In general, I think they must have had a good voice director for the English version. The script is not always the strongest but all the VA do very well with the material.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 4, 2023 10:04:12 GMT
That was a frustrating final battle. You go in to a fight with 15 healing draughts and wipe...seven or eight times...not so good. Cheatey McCheaterson fight aside, I liked it. I'll concur with AnDromedary's 'summary' feelings, with the score being the same, maaaaybe pushing to a 7.5/10. I know the rule with games is to use story/dialogue from early in the game for marketing purposes, but man - they really did themselves a disservice here. Those lines weren't as bad as they were made out to be...but they were also about as bad as the dialogue gets in the game. The main cast VA was solid to excellent, depending on the character and more Claudia Black is always a good thing. I liked it when Cuff was trapped again at the end. Not having the Cuff scan was a pain in the arse. And there was no way in hell any right minded person would want to wander that world without a scanning ability. Thought about Cinta/the Dragon...her corruption can't have been as complete as the others, or the transformation into the dragon form spared her, because she sacrificed herself for Frey. Unless I missed some 'freeing' of her mind prior to that. From a purely governmental point of view, having the power of all the Tanta's in the hands of one person seems like a really bad idea . I doubt this will do well enough to get a sequel, but if it does - it will be interesting to see where they take it. Cuff seems certain he can corrupt Frey like he corrupted the others. And she seems equally certain that he can't.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 4, 2023 18:51:22 GMT
That was a frustrating final battle. You go in to a fight with 15 healing draughts and wipe...seven or eight times...not so good. Cheatey McCheaterson fight aside, I liked it. I'll concur with AnDromedary 's 'summary' feelings, with the score being the same, maaaaybe pushing to a 7.5/10. I know the rule with games is to use story/dialogue from early in the game for marketing purposes, but man - they really did themselves a disservice here. Those lines weren't as bad as they were made out to be...but they were also about as bad as the dialogue gets in the game. The main cast VA was solid to excellent, depending on the character and more Claudia Black is always a good thing. I liked it when Cuff was trapped again at the end. Not having the Cuff scan was a pain in the arse. And there was no way in hell any right minded person would want to wander that world without a scanning ability. Thought about Cinta/the Dragon...her corruption can't have been as complete as the others, or the transformation into the dragon form spared her, because she sacrificed herself for Frey. Unless I missed some 'freeing' of her mind prior to that. From a purely governmental point of view, having the power of all the Tanta's in the hands of one person seems like a really bad idea . I doubt this will do well enough to get a sequel, but if it does - it will be interesting to see where they take it. Cuff seems certain he can corrupt Frey like he corrupted the others. And she seems equally certain that he can't. I liked that post-ending Cuff didn't have to pretend anymore and is just frustrated by everything. And yeah, I agree, if there were to be a sequel, Frey could be an initial antagonist who needs to be redeemed.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 4, 2023 20:56:04 GMT
That was a frustrating final battle. You go in to a fight with 15 healing draughts and wipe...seven or eight times...not so good. Cheatey McCheaterson fight aside, I liked it. I'll concur with AnDromedary 's 'summary' feelings, with the score being the same, maaaaybe pushing to a 7.5/10. I know the rule with games is to use story/dialogue from early in the game for marketing purposes, but man - they really did themselves a disservice here. Those lines weren't as bad as they were made out to be...but they were also about as bad as the dialogue gets in the game. The main cast VA was solid to excellent, depending on the character and more Claudia Black is always a good thing. I liked it when Cuff was trapped again at the end. Not having the Cuff scan was a pain in the arse. And there was no way in hell any right minded person would want to wander that world without a scanning ability. Thought about Cinta/the Dragon...her corruption can't have been as complete as the others, or the transformation into the dragon form spared her, because she sacrificed herself for Frey. Unless I missed some 'freeing' of her mind prior to that. From a purely governmental point of view, having the power of all the Tanta's in the hands of one person seems like a really bad idea . I doubt this will do well enough to get a sequel, but if it does - it will be interesting to see where they take it. Cuff seems certain he can corrupt Frey like he corrupted the others. And she seems equally certain that he can't. I liked that post-ending Cuff didn't have to pretend anymore and is just frustrated by everything. And yeah, I agree, if there were to be a sequel, Frey could be an initial antagonist who needs to be redeemed.
That isn’t what I was thinking of, but your idea is actually better. My only concern would be she is now all of the Tantas. How could any ordinary person last long enough to redeem her?
My idea was that as she works to push back the Break, Cuff slowly insinuates his way into her mind, making her powers go wonky from time to time. She is still herself, but has Cuff induced brain explosions, or something like that. Cause and effect, action and consequence kind of moments. Not her fault, but she’ll still feel them. She felt bad about killing Prav, after all.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 9, 2023 19:52:15 GMT
I've now put in about 7-8 hours of post story open worlding. I finally got the Float ability!!! Finding the Fount was a pain, but it is worth it. Frey actually grins like an idiot when you use it, although it drains her stamina pretty quickly. It seems that an unusually high percentage of people are actually completing the game. Nearly 18% have the achievement for finishing the final battle, which is more than I would have thought, although that could be a symptom of the main story not being a 30+ hour odyssey. Frey and Cuff also have plenty of post-story banter, which is nice. AnDromedaryDid you find the store out in the wild? That...was a moment.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 11, 2023 6:18:31 GMT
I've now put in about 7-8 hours of post story open worlding. I finally got the Float ability!!! Finding the Fount was a pain, but it is worth it. Frey actually grins like an idiot when you use it, although it drains her stamina pretty quickly. It seems that an unusually high percentage of people are actually completing the game. Nearly 18% have the achievement for finishing the final battle, which is more than I would have thought, although that could be a symptom of the main story not being a 30+ hour odyssey. Frey and Cuff also have plenty of post-story banter, which is nice. AnDromedary Did you find the store out in the wild? That...was a moment. Nope. I didn't really play anymore since finishing and I already uninstalled it because i needed the SSD space.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Feb 11, 2023 6:21:26 GMT
Fair enough. I'm parking it for now, as well.
Still enjoying it - just the map is kind of dauntingly huge.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 11, 2023 19:08:34 GMT
Fair enough. I'm parking it for now, as well. Still enjoying it - just the map is kind of dauntingly huge. Yeah I don't see myself playing it till after I've had my firs tgo at Hogwarts. I am looking forward t otrying my hand at Forspoken but I'm just more curious for seeing what the Hogwqarts game has in store first. Looking forward to casting spells and getting to fly around all over the place on m ybroom or mount.
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