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Post by jalis on Jul 29, 2022 0:24:57 GMT
A canonized end is aldready the basis of any futur ME. Whatever this canonized end could be, what ever good it can be.
If we rely on teaser, we can already bet that synthesys or lets reapers win will not be the canon. After that it is the marketing departement job to determined what could be the best solution to reach the maximum consensus among fans base. From here it is to scenarists to invent the most consensuals bullshits most peoples would agree to believe.
ME3 ends danages cant be repaired. However with a bit of conformism, there is money to extract, even from a badly wounded and discretited myth.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 29, 2022 14:42:11 GMT
If we rely on teaser, we can already bet that synthesys or lets reapers win will not be the canon. How could it be? Other than Refuse, the is the least interesting ending. Space Magic to make synthetics alive because they're not really that important unless they're alive. This de facto says that only organic beings count. And they are organic if they've got cells inside that reproduce. I could imagine Control being possible but I think most go for the Giant Red Button. Revenge and the actual survival of all sentient life in the galaxy are the most important things to consider.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2022 16:23:54 GMT
If we rely on teaser, we can already bet that synthesys or lets reapers win will not be the canon. How could it be? Other than Refuse, the is the least interesting ending. Space Magic to make synthetics alive because they're not really that important unless they're alive. This de facto says that only organic beings count. And they are organic if they've got cells inside that reproduce. I could imagine Control being possible but I think most go for the Giant Red Button. Revenge and the actual survival of all sentient life in the galaxy are the most important things to consider. Hmmm. I'm not sure I ever thought about this in this way - organic supremacy. This is true both ways now though, since nothing is really alive without their Intel Ryzen Mk 66 processor. But the chauvinism does check out, both ways. Synthesis solved nothing. It is the worst possible bi-partisan deal. Rather than give anyone freedom, let's enslave everything identically. They're all on the same boat now, what's to complain about? If I was some dude just working on appropriated Tomkahs on some UNC, and all of a sudden I had green lazor vision and my service manual opened up tabs inside my brain.... Without any fucking explanation.... I would either die of insanity and fear, or kill myself. It is that simple. People say the same thing about Shep's other decisions, but none of those endings affect bodily autonomy. Synthesis is unacceptable in any realm, you just have to stop and think about it. Maybe harder, if you still don't see it. /synthesis rant no. 999976899678999
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Post by q5tyhj on Jul 29, 2022 17:00:43 GMT
I can't think of any deal-breakers, aside from the game just being shitty. As long as they do it at least semi-competently, I don't really care whether they bring back Shepard (or not) or Ryder (or not), canonize an ending for ME3, or really anything else.
I'm probably going to at least buy and try out any new Mass Effect title, because ME2/3 are probably my two favorite video games of all time, and MEA was at least alright, so hopefully the next one will at least be as good as MEA.
(on second thought, no Krogan probably would be a deal-breaker for me... but I'm having trouble imagining anyone making a Mass Effect game without any Krogan in it, so I'm not too worried on that count)
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 29, 2022 18:44:34 GMT
Synthesis solved nothing. It is the worst possible bi-partisan deal. Rather than give anyone freedom, let's enslave everything identically. They're all on the same boat now, what's to complain about? It's even worse than bodily autonomy. I'm not sure why anyone thinks the ancient entities that come up with insane ideas of how to handle things should be allowed to roam free. Seriously. The Reapers could find many, many reasons to enslave or destroy any planet or single race for reasons entirely different from the organic/synthetic issue. Imagine walking down the street and seeing some mindless husk hanging out. Or maybe the Reapers gave it Magic Sentience. So you think? Is that my parent/sibling/child? Did it kill my parent/sibling/child? Will it go nuts and kill again? Then infinitely multiply that by looking at the Reapers in the sky. Who could trust creatures that have essentially killed galaxies full of people. I've done the math on this before and it comes down to what are only theoretical numbers. That's over the course of a billion years. The same essentially goes for Control except for that organics maintain their autonomy. Want to merge yourself with synthetic beings? Go for it. But we'll tag you the way we tag biotics.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 29, 2022 20:51:29 GMT
green is crap. You are ready? **** you thing. You only say that because it's the one ending where you remain. Go **** yourself and your mickey mouse crap about green being the final evolution of all life. Since thing controls the oversized robots, does that mean it will be able to control the organics who were forced to have their dna changed, if Commander dumba** chose it?Oh yeah. The reapers remain. That's a no-go. I prefer red because evolution is not limited to that hocus pocus crap.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 29, 2022 21:53:19 GMT
If we rely on teaser, we can already bet that synthesys or lets reapers win will not be the canon. How could it be? Other than Refuse, the is the least interesting ending. Space Magic to make synthetics alive because they're not really that important unless they're alive. This de facto says that only organic beings count. And they are organic if they've got cells inside that reproduce. I could imagine Control being possible but I think most go for the Giant Red Button. Revenge and the actual survival of all sentient life in the galaxy are the most important things to consider. That’s not what Sunthesis says at all. Meanwhile that is exactly what Destroy says: only organics count or are worth saving.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 29, 2022 21:57:04 GMT
A canonized end is aldready the basis of any futur ME. Whatever this canonized end could be, what ever good it can be. If we rely on teaser, we can already bet that synthesys or lets reapers win will not be the canon. After that it is the marketing departement job to determined what could be the best solution to reach the maximum consensus among fans base. From here it is to scenarists to invent the most consensuals bullshits most peoples would agree to believe. ME3 ends danages cant be repaired. However with a bit of conformism, there is money to extract, even from a badly wounded and discretited myth. How do you figure? Reapers died even in the Synthesis timeline before the Crucible fired. As for the lines not showing up, that could be any number of things from they faded or were symbolic to show what happened in the ending. Considering a third of players picked Synthesis according to MELE stats (meanwhile 45% picked Destroy, 16% Control, 9% Refuse) throwing that away is not the best decision if they want to reach maximum consensus.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 30, 2022 15:38:17 GMT
green is crap. You are ready? **** you thing. You only say that because it's the one ending where you remain. Go **** yourself and your mickey mouse crap about green being the final evolution of all life. Since thing controls the oversized robots, does that mean it will be able to control the organics who were forced to have their dna changed, if Commander dumba** chose it?Oh yeah. The reapers remain. That's a no-go. I prefer red because evolution is not limited to that hocus pocus crap. The "final" evolution is straight on bullshit. If the Star Brat is saying that then you should immediately know it's lying to you. Final evolution is death.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2022 16:08:23 GMT
green is crap. You are ready? **** you thing. You only say that because it's the one ending where you remain. Go **** yourself and your mickey mouse crap about green being the final evolution of all life. Since thing controls the oversized robots, does that mean it will be able to control the organics who were forced to have their dna changed, if Commander dumba** chose it?Oh yeah. The reapers remain. That's a no-go. I prefer red because evolution is not limited to that hocus pocus crap. The "final" evolution is straight on bullshit. If the Star Brat is saying that then you should immediately know it's lying to you. Final evolution is death. Hot damn, that hits the spot! Kurzweil is an impressive prognosticator. I think he's dead wrong about the Singularity, but hey if we can just make it another 13 years we'll get to see if Green was right all along. I am firmly in the camp that Singularity is not an event, but a power. Used by Biotics. In a game. <Fast forward 13 years> MuskCorp's Star Citizen release imminent! The 12th remaster of GTA5, with GTA6 just around the corner any day now. Also MS-UbiCDPRSoft will finally release content DLC for Cyberpunk 2077!
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Aug 7, 2022 7:17:16 GMT
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 8, 2022 18:32:41 GMT
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Aug 8, 2022 20:25:45 GMT
The only guaranteed deal breaker for me would be "mobile game".
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Post by helios969 on Aug 9, 2022 7:06:38 GMT
Considering a third of players picked Synthesis according to MELE stats (meanwhile 45% picked Destroy, 16% Control, 9% Refuse) throwing that away is not the best decision if they want to reach maximum consensus That may be for the LE but I remember the stats after the ME3 and Synthesis was the lowest (<15%) save for Refuse which few took too seriously. Sooo...you should probably factor the original release into your "stats."
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Post by helios969 on Aug 9, 2022 7:11:44 GMT
Synthesis solved nothing. I agree. The idea that all conflict is resolved through some new connection/understanding is laughable. I'm already fully capable of empathizing with someone else's position and defending my own against the same someone if it comes down to it. Lack of resources more than anything else drives conflict.
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Post by hulluliini on Aug 9, 2022 10:53:23 GMT
Considering a third of players picked Synthesis according to MELE stats (meanwhile 45% picked Destroy, 16% Control, 9% Refuse) throwing that away is not the best decision if they want to reach maximum consensus That may be for the LE but I remember the stats after the ME3 and Synthesis was the lowest (<15%) save for Refuse which few took too seriously. Sooo...you should probably factor the original release into your "stats." And those original stats include my "choice" of Synthesis simply because I didn't know I have to walk to different places for different choices. I thought I would make the choice at the beam. And I know I'm not the only one...
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Post by Carcharoth on Aug 9, 2022 12:42:11 GMT
That may be for the LE but I remember the stats after the ME3 and Synthesis was the lowest (<15%) save for Refuse which few took too seriously. Sooo...you should probably factor the original release into your "stats." And those original stats include my "choice" of Synthesis simply because I didn't know I have to walk to different places for different choices. I thought I would make the choice at the beam. And I know I'm not the only one... I looked at all three options, in both the original release and ec. So I have to wonder if I'm counted amongst the people who chose green and blue, despite ending with red and preferring it as the least bad of endings.
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Post by Guardian on Aug 10, 2022 3:30:54 GMT
And those original stats include my "choice" of Synthesis simply because I didn't know I have to walk to different places for different choices. I thought I would make the choice at the beam. And I know I'm not the only one... I looked at all three options, in both the original release and ec. So I have to wonder if I'm counted amongst the people who chose green and blue, despite ending with red and preferring it as the least bad of endings.
That's just it - I don't think we'll ever know. But it is something to consider when seeing that "data set".
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 10, 2022 18:00:32 GMT
And those original stats include my "choice" of Synthesis simply because I didn't know I have to walk to different places for different choices. I thought I would make the choice at the beam. And I know I'm not the only one... I looked at all three options, in both the original release and ec. So I have to wonder if I'm counted amongst the people who chose green and blue, despite ending with red and preferring it as the least bad of endings. Is the MELE or original? I'm asking before from what I understand Red was the most popular originally.
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Post by Carcharoth on Aug 10, 2022 19:11:08 GMT
I looked at all three options, in both the original release and ec. So I have to wonder if I'm counted amongst the people who chose green and blue, despite ending with red and preferring it as the least bad of endings. Is the MELE or original? I'm asking before from what I understand Red was the most popular originally. Original. MELE didn't offer enough incentives to replace my 360 copies.
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Post by dmc1001 on Aug 10, 2022 20:37:35 GMT
Is the MELE or original? I'm asking before from what I understand Red was the most popular originally. Original. MELE didn't offer enough incentives to replace my 360 copies. Then Destroy should be most popular by all accounts. More popular by far. Someone said that changed in MELE but I don't know the source of that information.
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Post by helios969 on Aug 11, 2022 7:15:05 GMT
Original. MELE didn't offer enough incentives to replace my 360 copies. Then Destroy should be most popular by all accounts. More popular by far. Someone said that changed in MELE but I don't know the source of that information. Indoctrination, er, I mean Synthesis fangirls and boys.
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Post by hulluliini on Aug 11, 2022 9:10:55 GMT
And those original stats include my "choice" of Synthesis simply because I didn't know I have to walk to different places for different choices. I thought I would make the choice at the beam. And I know I'm not the only one... I looked at all three options, in both the original release and ec. So I have to wonder if I'm counted amongst the people who chose green and blue, despite ending with red and preferring it as the least bad of endings. The stats should also only include the first playthrough of any given player. After playing the game once, I have chosen each ending in turn just to see something different each time, but I do have my personal canon ending that I would prefer to see canonized.
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