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Post by damdil on Jan 21, 2022 13:29:18 GMT
Hello guys,
it's nice to see that there still is an active community for the ME games. So hoping that I'm writing in the correct category, here's my question:
I've noticed that the Trilogy Save Editor allows you to add squad mates earlier than intended into your party and I was quite intrigued by it given that some of the(in my opinion) more interesting party members join you somewhat late into the game in ME 2+3. Also, by chance I found a vid on YouTube which shows that in ME 2 there is unique dialogue between Garrus and Tali during the Archangel mission. So it seems that this could be a good way to variate a playthrough and maybe getting a small amount of content alongside. On the other hand I could imagine that making squad mates available earlier may screw up some missions, romance triggers etc.
Anyone of you who have experimentend with this and are willing to share the results?
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Post by damdil on Jan 25, 2022 13:32:27 GMT
If it's ok that I make a double post for an update here, I've now been playing around with the Save Editor in ME 2 myself and wanted to share the results with you since it seems there is only very little information to find about this topic. Maybe I was just using Google like an amateur but trying some stuff out myself definitly showed me again what a great and extensive tool the Save Editor is. Maybe you're interested in the results.
So first I simply went for the "xy is in party" and "xy is selectable" options. Using this, once you reload the squad mate gets immediately available on the Normandy and for missions. However I'm still not sure if and how this could screw up the indivdual recruitment missions since you'll also immediately get the post recruitment personal message and dialogue. So I scratched that method as far as possible and instead tried something else. Via ticking the entry "312" in the raw plot tab, which basically activates the post Horizon quest triggers, you can play through the recruitment missions for Samara, Tali and Thane regularly. However it needs to be duly noted that leaving the mentioned raw plot entry active also starts the mission counter towards the Collector Base mission so I'd strongly advise that you disable it after max. 1-2 missions. Enabling and then disabling the raw plot entry doesn't seem to affect the trigger for Horizon in any way as I was able to play through it regularly.
What I found particuarly interesting about this is that at least for Tali and Legion (the later however you can only "hard recruit" with the in party and selectable options as far as I know) there is an extensive amount of otherwise completely hidden dialogue as they have actually full dialogue for cutscenes and banter even by the earliest missions on Omega, where you normally you'd only be able to bring Jacob, Miranda or Zaeed. Like some stuff from ME 3 mods, this adds in so well that you'll be sometimes sitting there wondering if these scenes weren't always there and you're suffering from bad memory. I didn'ty try this for Samara and Thane, so I'm not sure if this also holds true for them too or if they'll just stand around silently in the early game. Also note that I'm not far enough into the game to tell if I screwed up Legion's recruitment mission by adding him via above-mentioned method. Overall, this highly indicates that initially atleast Legion and Tali were recruitable a lot earlier and there where some changes to the whole story line during later stages of developement, since the recording of voice lines will often be done very early on. And it's really highly curious that even with LE 2, these files where simply left hidden somewhere in the game data and nobody cared about them enough even for only simply removing them.
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 2, 2022 19:20:02 GMT
What do you play on? Because if you're on PC, you could just install Early Recruitment Mod.
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Post by midnightwolf on Feb 2, 2022 21:17:04 GMT
I'm an active user of the Trilogy Save Editor. I've used it to take/add squadmates, as well as romances. In one game of ME3LE I used it to take Wrex away so I had Wreav. I've also used it to 'tick flags' for missions I didn't want to do. Or to make the Council dead on a save where they were alive. It's a very good Mod.
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Post by damdil on Feb 4, 2022 17:16:31 GMT
What do you play on? Because if you're on PC, you could just install Early Recruitment Mod. As far as I know it isn't available for LE right?
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Post by KrrKs on Feb 4, 2022 17:47:02 GMT
What do you play on? Because if you're on PC, you could just install Early Recruitment Mod. As far as I know it isn't available for LE right? It is:
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 4, 2022 18:09:22 GMT
What do you play on? Because if you're on PC, you could just install Early Recruitment Mod. As far as I know it isn't available for LE right? Wouldn't have mentioned it if it wasn't Just make sure you read the mod description for how Horizon and the collector ship get triggered.
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Post by damdil on Feb 4, 2022 18:24:02 GMT
Lol Well I think I used the save editor for what the mod does and learned some stuff about the editor along the way. Still feeling a little stupid now
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Post by dragontartare on Feb 4, 2022 23:44:31 GMT
Lol Well I think I used the save editor for what the mod does and learned some stuff about the editor along the way. Still feeling a little stupid now Nah, if you learned something new, then it isn't stupid
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