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Post by river82 on Mar 19, 2022 22:13:28 GMT
From what I gather cyberpunk was a good game marred by technical issues. Basically a ME1 in more expectant/entitled times. MEA was just a shit tier game made even worse by being a technical mess. Regardless CD actually stuck around to bring the game up to standard. Bioware left MEA to die so they could make Anthem lol. Waaaaaaaay too much hype for Cyberpunk. I feel for the devs trying to make a game to live up to THOSE expectations. I get the feeling Cyberpunk isn't a game for me. Maybe 10 years ago I would have gobbled it up but like Cyberstrike my tastes have changed a lot in the last decade. Glad to see people are finally able to enjoy it though.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 19, 2022 22:26:08 GMT
From what I gather cyberpunk was a good game marred by technical issues. Basically a ME1 in more expectant/entitled times. MEA was just a shit tier game made even worse by being a technical mess. Regardless CD actually stuck around to bring the game up to standard. Bioware left MEA to die so they could make Anthem lol. BioWare did more to improve Andromeda then what CDPR has done for Cyberpunk in the last 18 months. Andromeda is at a place where it should have launched, but Cyberpunk is almost there with patch 1.5, but then they have to still live up to the hype that CDPR was pumping into Cyberpunk until the release. Edit: The other difference between the two studios is CDPR needs Cyberpunk for they don't have another game close to release or even announced yet so they were planning on living off of Cyberpunk for years while BioWare had Anthem in the pipeline and probably early plans for Dragon Age 4. The other difference is CDPR suckered millions of people into buying Cyberpunk and its broken state, but BioWare had a two week demo on EA Access for the first couple hours of the game which caused people not to buy it. So there is an audience that might come back to Cyberpunk that wouldn't come back to Andromeda.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 19, 2022 22:30:23 GMT
From what I gather cyberpunk was a good game marred by technical issues. Basically a ME1 in more expectant/entitled times. MEA was just a shit tier game made even worse by being a technical mess. Regardless CD actually stuck around to bring the game up to standard. Bioware left MEA to die so they could make Anthem lol. Waaaaaaaay too much hype for Cyberpunk. I feel for the devs trying to make a game to live up to THOSE expectations. I get the feeling Cyberpunk isn't a game for me. Maybe 10 years ago I would have gobbled it up but like Cyberstrike my tastes have changed a lot in the last decade. Glad to see people are finally able to enjoy it though. I feel that CDPR executives bought their own hype for far too long. Even just before release they were saying things like "you won't believe how it runs on the older consoles" while at the same time DMCAing any videos of the game on consoles prior to release because Best Buy shipped them early which for me was them scamming the audience by hiding the issues with the PS4/XB1 issues.
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Post by ClarkKent on Mar 19, 2022 22:59:57 GMT
From what I gather cyberpunk was a good game marred by technical issues. Basically a ME1 in more expectant/entitled times. MEA was just a shit tier game made even worse by being a technical mess. Regardless CD actually stuck around to bring the game up to standard. Bioware left MEA to die so they could make Anthem lol. BioWare did more to improve Andromeda then what CDPR has done for Cyberpunk in the last 18 months. Andromeda is at a place where it should have launched, but Cyberpunk is almost there with patch 1.5, but then they have to still live up to the hype that CDPR was pumping into Cyberpunk until the release. Edit: The other difference between the two studios is CDPR needs Cyberpunk for they don't have another game close to release or even announced yet so they were planning on living off of Cyberpunk for years while BioWare had Anthem in the pipeline and probably early plans for Dragon Age 4. The other difference is CDPR suckered millions of people into buying Cyberpunk and its broken state, but BioWare had a two week demo on EA Access for the first couple hours of the game which caused people not to buy it. So there is an audience that might come back to Cyberpunk that wouldn't come back to Andromeda. I'm not really concerned about the hype or'my expectations!' Stuff. I'm judging on a purely game to game basis and Cyberpunk is still several leagues better than MEA and this difference will only get larger as CD patch the game. And if Bioware improved the game a lot in the eighteen months I don't want to know what it was like at release. I encountered so many game breaking glitches in that soulless husk of a game when I played it last year. It's certainly not complete in any stretch of the imagination. I think it's admirable that CD fully commited to Cyberpunk before release. Bioware should have done that.perhaps MEA would have been less terrible? Then I guess they wouldn't get to release their GaaS game though.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 20, 2022 0:09:21 GMT
BioWare did more to improve Andromeda then what CDPR has done for Cyberpunk in the last 18 months. Andromeda is at a place where it should have launched, but Cyberpunk is almost there with patch 1.5, but then they have to still live up to the hype that CDPR was pumping into Cyberpunk until the release. Edit: The other difference between the two studios is CDPR needs Cyberpunk for they don't have another game close to release or even announced yet so they were planning on living off of Cyberpunk for years while BioWare had Anthem in the pipeline and probably early plans for Dragon Age 4. The other difference is CDPR suckered millions of people into buying Cyberpunk and its broken state, but BioWare had a two week demo on EA Access for the first couple hours of the game which caused people not to buy it. So there is an audience that might come back to Cyberpunk that wouldn't come back to Andromeda. I'm not really concerned about the hype or'my expectations!' Stuff. I'm judging on a purely game to game basis and Cyberpunk is still several leagues better than MEA and this difference will only get larger as CD patch the game. And if Bioware improved the game a lot in the eighteen months I don't want to know what it was like at release. I encountered so many game breaking glitches in that soulless husk of a game when I played it last year. It's certainly not complete in any stretch of the imagination. I think it's admirable that CD fully commited to Cyberpunk before release. Bioware should have done that.perhaps MEA would have been less terrible? Then I guess they wouldn't get to release their GaaS game though. I still say even taking the hype out of the equation Andromeda for my enjoyment is a vastly better experience then Cyberpunk. BioWare was able to bring Andromeda to release level in six months, but CDPR is still struggling to get Cyberpunk there after 18 months.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Mar 20, 2022 0:13:34 GMT
I actually thought Andromeda was okay at release. I was caught up in it as I was playing, and it increasingly sunk in how little depth there was to the thing. The prequel novel was actually far better than the game, though it can hardly be called a prequel novel because it is contradicted completely by the game– really this was an early red flag about the poor state of the writing/development process.
I thought some of the early (technical) criticism of Andromeda was overblown, and defended it as such at the time. But the game just lacks substance.
In contrast, Cyberpunk 2077 is a genuinely excellent game. The writing is excellent and the technical issues were far overblown. You can salvage technical issues, but you cannot rewrite a game after release. I had a blast playing it (the Xbox version, not even PC!) on release, which was supposedly unplayable. I encountered relatively few bugs; they were minor annoyances at most, and nothing I wasn't used to from having played now classics like ME2 and New Vegas at release.
The overhaul with 1.5 made it even better, but the core game was great from the start. I do have issues with it, but it was probably the most immersive gaming experience I had since playing DAI at launch.
The funny thing is, before release, I was getting flamed for saying CP77 was getting overhyped. Then the very same people who were overhyping it turned around to overhyping in the other direction.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 20, 2022 0:25:56 GMT
From what I gather cyberpunk was a good game marred by technical issues. Basically a ME1 in more expectant/entitled times. MEA was just a shit tier game made even worse by being a technical mess. Regardless CD actually stuck around to bring the game up to standard. Bioware left MEA to die so they could make Anthem lol. Eh some people were miffed by the story and the railroading feeling it goes deeper than just technical issues from what I've heard there's still some game breaking bugs in Cyberpunk.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 20, 2022 0:34:25 GMT
I'm not really concerned about the hype or'my expectations!' Stuff. I'm judging on a purely game to game basis and Cyberpunk is still several leagues better than MEA and this difference will only get larger as CD patch the game. And if Bioware improved the game a lot in the eighteen months I don't want to know what it was like at release. I encountered so many game breaking glitches in that soulless husk of a game when I played it last year. It's certainly not complete in any stretch of the imagination. I think it's admirable that CD fully commited to Cyberpunk before release. Bioware should have done that.perhaps MEA would have been less terrible? Then I guess they wouldn't get to release their GaaS game though. I still say even taking the hype out of the equation Andromeda for my enjoyment is a vastly better experience then Cyberpunk. BioWare was able to bring Andromeda to release level in six months, but CDPR is still struggling to get Cyberpunk there after 18 months.
The technical issues that everyone complained about in MEA that could be patched was patched. BioWare basically does a year worth of updates and patches before moving on that is their SOP. Sorry but CDPR made a broken piece of shit game with weak story with Cyberpunk 2077 a game that is still a broken piece of shit and for all it's faults at least MEA didn't get de-listed off the PS Store (which is actually very hard to do) for being a broken POS game and was only reinstated when CDPR got the damn game to just barely work on their system from reviewers that I trust the game's story is weak with a lame story and gets by trying to be "edgy" and can't even to that right and not even Neo himself Keanu Reeves can save it.
IMHO if a company can't get a game with no other major projects in the works can't get a game in shape that it should've been at release almost 2 years later then it's good chance that Cyberpunk 2077 will never being a good state and I will bet that the people who playing on PS4 and XB1 are going to get screwed because they will do what BioWare did with DAI and abandon them when the XBX and PS5 become easier to get because that is what BioWare did on DAI. And FTR while I currently don't have either PS5 and/or XBX at this time, but I fully support their decision not to have DA4 on the PS4 and XB1 because the game doesn't need to be on those platforms and that was huge mistake on DAI.
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Post by Guardian on Mar 20, 2022 0:49:55 GMT
Let's not forget the line my face is tired crap. How about the nonsense from the peepee character especially during her crap with the escape pod? How about the garbage from the traitor's loyalty mission? Of course the duck saying hold me Liam. But let's continue with the traitor. I think I pissed him off. Maybe because I shot him in the face. You can moan and groan all you want about lines in the trilogy, but more people like those lines than people liking the lines in MEA. I remember people groaning about those lines from the original trilogy as well. Yeah....the constant repeating of "GO, GO, GO!" and "I WILL DESTROY YOU!" got really annoying in ME 1. I honestly didn't get a lot of repeat lines from squadmates in ME 2. I know mileage may vary, but I really didn't get them spamming the lines every 10 seconds. Again, not saying it didn't happen for others, it's just not what I experienced. I still haven't touched Cyberpunk TBH. Noped out of the launch and now the hype has well and truly died and there's so many other games to play. This year is pretty stacked as well. I might try it in a couple of years maybe. I thought it was okay. The story for CP2077 was interesting; of course, I also had prior knowledge of the CP universe before going into this, so I thought it was neat where the story went. But yes, it's not for everyone. And anyone that says, "You must play it!" can be ignored. I have people telling me the same thing about games I have no desire to ever play, such as Destiny. It's not my thing...never really cared about it. I'm not really concerned about the hype or'my expectations!' Stuff. I'm judging on a purely game to game basis and Cyberpunk is still several leagues better than MEA and this difference will only get larger as CD patch the game. And if Bioware improved the game a lot in the eighteen months I don't want to know what it was like at release. I encountered so many game breaking glitches in that soulless husk of a game when I played it last year. It's certainly not complete in any stretch of the imagination. I think it's admirable that CD fully commited to Cyberpunk before release. Bioware should have done that.perhaps MEA would have been less terrible? Then I guess they wouldn't get to release their GaaS game though. I still say even taking the hype out of the equation Andromeda for my enjoyment is a vastly better experience then Cyberpunk. BioWare was able to bring Andromeda to release level in six months, but CDPR is still struggling to get Cyberpunk there after 18 months. I will say that I think CDPR bit off a bit more than they could chew with this project. Yes, they still have a few technical issues that need to be worked out, but as for which game was the better experience for me? Hard to say - both offer vastly different things for me to enjoy. In terms of story, I say Cyberpunk; if we're talking about combat, I would say Andromeda.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 20, 2022 0:54:32 GMT
From what I gather cyberpunk was a good game marred by technical issues. Basically a ME1 in more expectant/entitled times. MEA was just a shit tier game made even worse by being a technical mess. Regardless CD actually stuck around to bring the game up to standard. Bioware left MEA to die so they could make Anthem lol. BioWare did more to improve Andromeda then what CDPR has done for Cyberpunk in the last 18 months. Andromeda is at a place where it should have launched, but Cyberpunk is almost there with patch 1.5, but then they have to still live up to the hype that CDPR was pumping into Cyberpunk until the release. Edit: The other difference between the two studios is CDPR needs Cyberpunk for they don't have another game close to release or even announced yet so they were planning on living off of Cyberpunk for years while BioWare had Anthem in the pipeline and probably early plans for Dragon Age 4. The other difference is CDPR suckered millions of people into buying Cyberpunk and its broken state, but BioWare had a two week demo on EA Access for the first couple hours of the game which caused people not to buy it. So there is an audience that might come back to Cyberpunk that wouldn't come back to Andromeda.
Naw, bioware did far far less to improve Andromeda, than CPDR has done with cyberpunk. But then again they had far far less needed to improve. Andromeda had some bad animations and a couple other small flaws on the technical side. Cyberpunk was completely broken for a lot of people depending on platform.
Writing, story, core game play neither of these companies changed those as far as I know, which is best is up to the person. I found cyberpunks story and characters more engaging, but I felt the core game play was worse.
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Post by Guardian on Mar 20, 2022 1:07:11 GMT
I actually thought Andromeda was okay at release. I was caught up in it as I was playing, and it increasingly sunk in how little depth there was to the thing. The prequel novel was actually far better than the game, though it can hardly be called a prequel novel because it is contradicted completely by the game– really this was an early red flag about the poor state of the writing/development process. I thought some of the early (technical) criticism of Andromeda was overblown, and defended it as such at the time. But the game just lacks substance. In contrast, Cyberpunk 2077 is a genuinely excellent game. The writing is excellent and the technical issues were far overblown. You can salvage technical issues, but you cannot rewrite a game after release. I had a blast playing it (the Xbox version, not even PC!) on release, which was supposedly unplayable. I encountered relatively few bugs; they were minor annoyances at most, and nothing I wasn't used to from having played now classics like ME2 and New Vegas at release. The overhaul with 1.5 made it even better, but the core game was great from the start. I do have issues with it, but it was probably the most immersive gaming experience I had since playing DAI at launch. The funny thing is, before release, I was getting flamed for saying CP77 was getting overhyped. Then the very same people who were overhyping it turned around to overhyping in the other direction. Andromeda was okay on release. For me though, the only difference the patches made was it became what it should have been at launch. Yes, the technical criticisms of Andromeda were overblown. But you also bring up a very good point - the game lacks substance.
I will tell anyone and everyone that is new to this series to play all four games at least once and make your own conclusions. For me though, I just never felt a desire to play Andromeda over and over again like I do the OT (or at least ME 2 and ME 3). I could never quite put my finger on what I felt Andromeda lacked. It was the one game I've never really had a burning desire to come back to. Even ME 1, with it's horrible combat I've gone back to a couple times more than Andromeda. And Andromeda has the vastly superior combat to ME 1.
Regarding CP2077, I too played it on Xbox and really didn't have many bugs either. I remember watching two streamers, both on PC playing it, having way more bugs than I did. One got so frustrated he nearly quit the game for good. I will say that, in my opinion, Cyberpunk was a bit overhyped for what was delivered (to be fair, some really just have this massive hate-thing for CDPR).
However, not to derail the thread, I personally do feel Andromeda got abandoned. I really don't think it's in EA's plan to not keep turning a profit on a game for as long as it can before moving on. It's possible they didn't plan on bringing anything new for Andromeda, given how Anthem was right around the corner, and wanted that game to be the "Cash cow" it never did become. I just don't think we'll ever get an answer one way or another.
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Post by river82 on Mar 20, 2022 1:16:08 GMT
Waaaaaaaay too much hype for Cyberpunk. I feel for the devs trying to make a game to live up to THOSE expectations. I get the feeling Cyberpunk isn't a game for me. Maybe 10 years ago I would have gobbled it up but like Cyberstrike my tastes have changed a lot in the last decade. Glad to see people are finally able to enjoy it though. I feel that CDPR executives bought their own hype for far too long. Even just before release they were saying things like "you won't believe how it runs on the older consoles" while at the same time DMCAing any videos of the game on consoles prior to release because Best Buy shipped them early which for me was them scamming the audience by hiding the issues with the PS4/XB1 issues. I feel the same way but also for a lot of bigger studios in general. For example Starfield is going to be the "next evolution of RPG". Really? Okay, I will eagerly await your "next evolution of RPG" Todd "believe my Radiant AI/radiant story hype" Howard.
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I will tell anyone and everyone that is new to this series to play all four games at least once and make your own conclusions. That's what I've told less than handful of people even though I've said a game sucks. For me, it's the main character. I found Shepard a more interesting character. If I didn't I wouldn't have the number of playthroughs I have. I most likely would not have purchased the remaster. Ryder was.....whatever. It does. The teaser showing a character from the trilogy with dead reapers in the background hints the next game will at the very least take place in the Milky Way. I know if I were a fan of Andromeda who didn't play the trilogy, then learn the character shown in the teaser is from the trilogy, I would believe the next game would have nothing to do with Andromeda. Then there's the remaster. From what I've read, it did well. Maybe that's what the fans are telling EA/Bioware. They want Shepard to return or another game in the Milky Way with new characters.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 20, 2022 1:49:43 GMT
Eh It was clear that CDPR bought into their own hype and it made them feel invulnerable. The truth is that most of the people who made the Witcher 3 were gone due to feeling overworked or left to greener pastures. Cyberpunk to me was the buggiest game I've played in a long time, it's constant crashes actually made me quit the game for a bit. Sure some of the characters were great but I felt that the story was less about you and more about Keanu Reeves lol. At least the driving was fine and Night City looks really good but at the same time it feels kinda shallow.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 20, 2022 6:00:34 GMT
Eh It was clear that CDPR bought into their own hype and it made them feel invulnerable. The truth is that most of the people who made the Witcher 3 were gone due to feeling overworked or left to greener pastures. Cyberpunk to me was the buggiest game I've played in a long time, it's constant crashes actually made me quit the game for a bit. Sure some of the characters were great but I felt that the story was less about you and more about Keanu Reeves lol. At least the driving was fine and Night City looks really good but at the same time it feels kinda shallow. That is one thing I find interesting around CDPR. If someone leaves BioWare it becomes front page news on several gaming websites, but when people leave CDPR you rarely hear about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 6:49:06 GMT
There are people probably still defending the launch of Cyberpunk 2077 which was a game so bad that Sony had to de-listed from the PS Store until CDPR got it working right on PS4 and Microsoft had to issue refunds for the damn thing on XB1. The game was so over-hyped that I will never buy a game from CDPR I think all of they're games vastly over-rated, over-hyped and under-whelming pieces of shit.
MEA had it faults but it's a classic compared to that piece of shit, Cyberpunk 2077. I also predicted on this very board that CDPR was leading for a major failure even said that either Cyberpunk 2077 or the game after it would be a disaster and I was right. I was called every name in the book and then some because I refused to bow to popular belief that CDPR "could do no wrong and that they were perfect company and all their games were perfect" (and this a quote that a poster here once said about them) and I call bullshit for what it is bullshit and I call greatness what it is greatness and I also give my brutal and honest opinions.
My opinion is that MEA is the Mass Effect game that I want to play. Playing ME:LE is not as much fun for me as it once was. My tastes change and MET isn't what I want to play anymore while MEA is.
I would rather play DA2 and DAI than DAO and all it's DLC and expansion. I still like MET and DAO but it's more like a chore and not as fun for me. That is called life.
The CP2077 launch was indeed a disaster, and far worse a launch than Andromeda. No argument there, it was bad for consoles and there were many issues for lower-spec PCs. The game has a better main story and side quests than Andromeda, substantially. It plays well now. It is at least as good as Andromeda. That's all I want to respond to. Irrational hate. CDPR is just another gaming company. You are missing out on a good game if you can get it on sale.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 20, 2022 9:51:47 GMT
The major difference between BioWare and CDPR, and MEA and Cyberpunk, is the post launch support each title received. CDPR are still working their butts off on Cyberpunk and it shows. BioWare dropped MEA like a hot potato.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 20, 2022 12:08:00 GMT
The major difference between BioWare and CDPR, and MEA and Cyberpunk, is the post launch support each title received. CDPR are still working their butts off on Cyberpunk and it shows. BioWare dropped MEA like a hot potato. Just because CDPR is still working on the game at this point doesn't mean it has reached any more post launch support then Andromeda. You could just as easily then say BioWare did more work in six months to fix Andromeda then CDPR has done in 18 months because Andromeda was on version 1.10 when they stopped support and Cyberpunk is only at 1.5. BioWare spent six months patching and fixing Andromeda to the point it was at a level I would have expected it to be at for release. Just because a company developed a game so badly that it has taken a year and a half to get to this point doesn't mean it has provided more support. I tried Cyberpunk with patch 1.5 to give it another try and it still has many problems that need to be addressed while I can play Andromeda and not have a fraction of the issues. Cyberpunk has become the first game I have received two refunds for.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 20, 2022 12:48:58 GMT
The major difference between BioWare and CDPR, and MEA and Cyberpunk, is the post launch support each title received. CDPR are still working their butts off on Cyberpunk and it shows. BioWare dropped MEA like a hot potato. Just because CDPR is still working on the game at this point doesn't mean it has reached any more post launch support then Andromeda. You could just as easily then say BioWare did more work in six months to fix Andromeda then CDPR has done in 18 months because Andromeda was on version 1.10 when they stopped support and Cyberpunk is only at 1.5. BioWare spent six months patching and fixing Andromeda to the point it was at a level I would have expected it to be at for release. Just because a company developed a game so badly that it has taken a year and a half to get to this point doesn't mean it has provided more support. I tried Cyberpunk with patch 1.5 to give it another try and it still has many problems that need to be addressed while I can play Andromeda and not have a fraction of the issues. Cyberpunk has become the first game I have received two refunds for. The patch version number is no indication of how much work was done overall. You could bring out 20 minor fixes and be at version 1.20, or 3 massive ones and only be at v1.03 and still have way more work done on your product than the first one. But if we are comparing version numbers (which doesn't mean a lot anyway), 1.5 is actually greater than 1.10. I'm sorry you had so many issues with it, it ran nearly problem free for me out of the box with some minor animation glitches, and my PC is from 2016.
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Post by smilesja on Mar 20, 2022 16:22:42 GMT
The major difference between BioWare and CDPR, and MEA and Cyberpunk, is the post launch support each title received. CDPR are still working their butts off on Cyberpunk and it shows. BioWare dropped MEA like a hot potato. Just because CDPR is still working on the game at this point doesn't mean it has reached any more post launch support then Andromeda. You could just as easily then say BioWare did more work in six months to fix Andromeda then CDPR has done in 18 months because Andromeda was on version 1.10 when they stopped support and Cyberpunk is only at 1.5. BioWare spent six months patching and fixing Andromeda to the point it was at a level I would have expected it to be at for release. Just because a company developed a game so badly that it has taken a year and a half to get to this point doesn't mean it has provided more support. I tried Cyberpunk with patch 1.5 to give it another try and it still has many problems that need to be addressed while I can play Andromeda and not have a fraction of the issues. Cyberpunk has become the first game I have received two refunds for. I mean I haven't found ME: A this buggy as Cyberpunk was. The game was that bad especially on Xbox One.
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Post by Guardian on Mar 20, 2022 17:40:10 GMT
Just because CDPR is still working on the game at this point doesn't mean it has reached any more post launch support then Andromeda. You could just as easily then say BioWare did more work in six months to fix Andromeda then CDPR has done in 18 months because Andromeda was on version 1.10 when they stopped support and Cyberpunk is only at 1.5. BioWare spent six months patching and fixing Andromeda to the point it was at a level I would have expected it to be at for release. Just because a company developed a game so badly that it has taken a year and a half to get to this point doesn't mean it has provided more support. I tried Cyberpunk with patch 1.5 to give it another try and it still has many problems that need to be addressed while I can play Andromeda and not have a fraction of the issues. Cyberpunk has become the first game I have received two refunds for. I mean I haven't found ME: A this buggy as Cyberpunk was. The game was that bad especially on Xbox One. And like I said earlier - I also ran mine on Xbox One with little to no bugs with Cyberpunk. Again - mileage may vary. I also mentioned how I watch a streamer, who has a top-of-the-line gaming PC, constantly crash Cyberpunk and nearly stopped playing it. He had to dig out his old tower just to finish the game.
So, I wish I could say why system didn't experience the same issues. *shrugs*
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Post by Guardian on Mar 20, 2022 17:51:29 GMT
That's what I've told less than handful of people even though I've said a game sucks. That's personally fine; I don't think it's terrible, but it's not great, either. So long as someone doesn't try to color a first time player's perception is all I would say. Yeah....I really wanted to like Ryder; but they also felt like they were lacking something. I already know what you felt Ryder was lacking, but I can't say for myself what it was. I just felt no attachment to them as a character. I felt the same way about the Inquisitor from DA: I. I had no investment in them at all. I know, and I personally do agree it was abandoned. Because that's what the evidence suggests and until we're told directly or given more proof that shows otherwise, there's not a lot of conclusions we can draw from, especially given how we all know how EA tends to operate. Their past track record speaks for itself. I know some might try to point the finger to Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order as proof that they're "different", but I have a more sneaking suspicion after the whole Battlefront II fiasco, Disney threatened EA with taking the exclusivity of making titles for Star Wars away from them.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 20, 2022 17:54:51 GMT
I mean I haven't found ME: A this buggy as Cyberpunk was. The game was that bad especially on Xbox One. And like I said earlier - I also ran mine on Xbox One with little to no bugs with Cyberpunk. Again - mileage may vary. I also mentioned how I watch a streamer, who has a top-of-the-line gaming PC, constantly crash Cyberpunk and nearly stopped playing it. He had to dig out his old tower just to finish the game.
So, I wish I could say why system didn't experience the same issues. *shrugs*
Its weird at best and I think demonstrates how badly programmed the game is. Early February a friend of mine really wanted to get me back into Cyberpunk and we used his Steam version to try and get it up and running on my PC since his computer is pretty close in spec to mine. In the span of around two hours I had the game crash 10 times. I did lose count of "I tried that" when trying to troubleshoot it. Afterwards it was a "I don't get it" from him.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Mar 20, 2022 18:37:09 GMT
That's what I've told less than handful of people even though I've said a game sucks. That's personally fine; I don't think it's terrible, but it's not great, either. So long as someone doesn't try to color a first time player's perception is all I would say. Yeah....I really wanted to like Ryder; but they also felt like they were lacking something. I already know what you felt Ryder was lacking, but I can't say for myself what it was. I just felt no attachment to them as a character. I felt the same way about the Inquisitor from DA: I. I had no investment in them at all. I know, and I personally do agree it was abandoned. Because that's what the evidence suggests and until we're told directly or given more proof that shows otherwise, there's not a lot of conclusions we can draw from, especially given how we all know how EA tends to operate. Their past track record speaks for itself. I know some might try to point the finger to Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order as proof that they're "different", but I have a more sneaking suspicion after the whole Battlefront II fiasco, Disney threatened EA with taking the exclusivity of making titles for Star Wars away from them. I always found Ryder to be an annoying kid who is trying and failing to fill into daddies shoes.
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Post by 10k on Mar 20, 2022 18:54:37 GMT
There are people probably still defending the launch of Cyberpunk 2077 which was a game so bad that Sony had to de-listed from the PS Store until CDPR got it working right on PS4 and Microsoft had to issue refunds for the damn thing on XB1. The game was so over-hyped that I will never buy a game from CDPR I think all of they're games vastly over-rated, over-hyped and under-whelming pieces of shit.
Cyberpunk is trash and still is trash, and I'm one of the idiots who pre-ordered the $500 ps4 collector's edition and still have the shitty yellow box sitting in the corner of my room along with The shitty Last of us 2 collector's edition that I pre-order for about $300 staring at me. When a game is bad, it's bad period. MEA was a bad game, just like TLoU2 and definitely Cyberpunk 2077. And who ever defends these bad games are as big of an idiot as I am for purchasing the trash.
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