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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 10:36:38 GMT
Sorry if this has been discussed in detail before, I’m just curious as I’ve honestly been a bit out of the loop Mass Effect wise the last few years.
It was the Legendary Edition that brought me back to this universe, and kind of reminding me why I was such a fan of this franchise in the first place.
I, like a fair amount of folks had a lukewarm experience with Andromeda. I knew it was the game that at the time put Mass Effect “on ice”/“on the shelf” as it were, and DLC and future content was cancelled beyond finishing the two remaining books that hadn’t been released, Initiation and Annihilation I believe?
And since then just nothing.
It was like a switch went off, and all a sudden all things Mass Effect was being revamped and refocused back on the original trilogy. I understand that for obvious reasons a lot of this was to do with building up hype and enthusiasm for the Legendary Edition, especially from a marketing and merchandising standpoint with a re-released art book and comics omnibus.
But it still feels like all the focus, and products and merchandising and marketing, is completely centred on the Mass Effect universe as it was known before Andromeda.
I’m not here to speculate as to whether this is all in aid of the still very mysterious Mass Effect 5, but what I am curious about is the complete and utter abandonment of Andromeda. I knew the chances of them continuing it as a game or DLC were rendered moot back in 2017 but I’m still surprised BioWare have been acting as if Andromeda never happened, and aren’t even seemingly doing anything with that setting, world, or it’s characters. And not just in terms of new content, just anything. Tweets, marketing, products, anything.
I’m probably being naive and missing something glaringly obvious, it’s just a surprise to me. I knew the reception and response to Andromeda was mixed at best but I didn’t take it to be so bad as to warrant this current ambivalence and abandonment of.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 8, 2022 12:58:33 GMT
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Post by redeem on Feb 8, 2022 19:22:05 GMT
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 8, 2022 19:45:02 GMT
But it still feels like all the focus, and products and merchandising and marketing, is completely centred on the Mass Effect universe as it was known before Andromeda. It's been made quite clear that ME5 will draw from both galaxies, even if not equally. Certainly development funding ended on Andromeda because it didn't have the install base to justify continuing. But I'd say BioWare are not inclined to wipe Andromeda from memory as some gaming pundits would wish.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 8, 2022 23:40:13 GMT
Sorry if this has been discussed in detail before, I’m just curious as I’ve honestly been a bit out of the loop Mass Effect wise the last few years. It was the Legendary Edition that brought me back to this universe, and kind of reminding me why I was such a fan of this franchise in the first place. I, like a fair amount of folks had a lukewarm experience with Andromeda. I knew it was the game that at the time put Mass Effect “on ice”/“on the shelf” as it were, and DLC and future content was cancelled beyond finishing the two remaining books that hadn’t been released, Initiation and Annihilation I believe? And since then just nothing. It was like a switch went off, and all a sudden all things Mass Effect was being revamped and refocused back on the original trilogy. I understand that for obvious reasons a lot of this was to do with building up hype and enthusiasm for the Legendary Edition, especially from a marketing and merchandising standpoint with a re-released art book and comics omnibus. But it still feels like all the focus, and products and merchandising and marketing, is completely centred on the Mass Effect universe as it was known before Andromeda. I’m not here to speculate as to whether this is all in aid of the still very mysterious Mass Effect 5, but what I am curious about is the complete and utter abandonment of Andromeda. I knew the chances of them continuing it as a game or DLC were rendered moot back in 2017 but I’m still surprised BioWare have been acting as if Andromeda never happened, and aren’t even seemingly doing anything with that setting, world, or it’s characters. And not just in terms of new content, just anything. Tweets, marketing, products, anything. I’m probably being naive and missing something glaringly obvious, it’s just a surprise to me. I knew the reception and response to Andromeda was mixed at best but I didn’t take it to be so bad as to warrant this current ambivalence and abandonment of. It's not 100% clear ye tbut it looks like it's going to b eabandoned yes. Ihope it isn't as I liked Andromeda but it's starting to look like it will be lef tbehind outside a of a fwe mentoins in the next game. Personally I'm not sue rhow t ofeel about it as I'd like t osee Ryder's story continued and given a satisfactor yending just like the ygave Shep one but I'm not sure we'll get it. So not suer I'm even going to bother with the Next ME yet
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Post by themikefest on Feb 9, 2022 1:16:58 GMT
I agree with a guy who told me shortly after mea released. He said he believes MEA was done to see how well a ME game would do without Shepard and the Milky Way. EA got their answer. If there's any hints of MEA, it's to give hope to those fans believing there will be something in ME4. The teaser showed the Andromeda galaxy yet focused appears towards the Milky Way. Showing a character from the trilogy also hints that the Milky Way will be the setting with new characters or the return of Shepard. Nothing hinted at the lame, oops, I mean little duck making any appearance.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 9, 2022 3:56:05 GMT
I don't think BioWare is going to completely abandon Andromeda which is why I don't think they are going to go back to Shepard either. They are going to try and merge the galaxies together to hopefully make a good game and go forward from there.
My theory is EA abandoned Andromeda (and BioWare Montreal) before the game was even launched and just released what they had finished. That way they could make the money they could from a game that had a troubled development cycle so the lack of merchandise or a short post release window would be expected with that approach. At the same time I don't think the setting and elements of Andromeda will be completely abandoned yet even if it won't be the only focus for they have the ground work all laid out for that and just abandoning it would be a waste of money which I be they need to save.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Feb 9, 2022 4:04:10 GMT
I agree with a guy who told me shortly after mea released. He said he believes MEA was done to see how well a ME game would do without Shepard and the Milky Way. EA got their answer. If there's any hints of MEA, it's to give hope to those fans believing there will be something in ME4. The teaser showed the Andromeda galaxy yet focused appears towards the Milky Way. Showing a character from the trilogy also hints that the Milky Way will be the setting with new characters or the return of Shepard. Nothing hinted at the lame, oops, I mean little duck making any appearance. I'm not sure what the Andromeda fanboys are expecting. Ryder gets a TARDIS to travel to the Milky Way 700 years earlier?
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Feb 9, 2022 6:30:08 GMT
Hard to say. I was angry the way the singleplayer was abandoned back in 2017 after all the patching was done. Even DA2 had DLC support. The game left too many loose ends and unanswered questions. I am not talking about sequel bait either.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Feb 9, 2022 12:50:37 GMT
Hard to say. I was angry the way the singleplayer was abandoned back in 2017 after all the patching was done. Even DA2 had DLC support. The game left too many loose ends and unanswered questions. I am not talking about sequel bait either. That's kind of why I'm in 2 minds about the next game. Why should I invest in the next ME if they can't finish the story they started to tell? I get it that MEA wasn' t that well recieved but it's important to finish what you start imo. At least for those that did like it.
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Post by jclosed on Feb 9, 2022 19:03:40 GMT
Hard to say. I was angry the way the singleplayer was abandoned back in 2017 after all the patching was done. Even DA2 had DLC support. The game left too many loose ends and unanswered questions. I am not talking about sequel bait either. That's kind of why I'm in 2 minds about the next game. Why should I invest in the next ME if they can't finish the story they started to tell? I get it that MEA wasn' t that well recieved but it's important to finish what you start imo. At least for those that did like it. I completely agree. If they go the mindless cheap route back to the Milky Way, and resurrect Zombie Shepard again I won't buy the game and abandon the whole franchise. The Milky Way tale is done and over with, and especially Shepard has to stay blast to pieces, incinerated and buried under five miles of concrete and 200 meters of reinforced steel. They do not have to go back to the Ryders if they do not want to (although I would not mind at all), but there is still lots of mystery left in the Andromeda galaxy, and there is still an Ark missing.
The same can not be said about the Milky Way. All mystery is gone there, and the only thing left is to rebuild everything. For that you need architects, scientists and workers. Hardly anything exiting compared to the dark mysteries left in the Andromeda galaxy.
I still have hopes, but I fear they go for the cheap option with the smelling corpse.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Feb 9, 2022 23:44:14 GMT
That's kind of why I'm in 2 minds about the next game. Why should I invest in the next ME if they can't finish the story they started to tell? I get it that MEA wasn' t that well recieved but it's important to finish what you start imo. At least for those that did like it. I completely agree. If they go the mindless cheap route back to the Milky Way, and resurrect Zombie Shepard again I won't buy the game and abandon the whole franchise. The Milky Way tale is done and over with, and especially Shepard has to stay blast to pieces, incinerated and buried under five miles of concrete and 200 meters of reinforced steel. They do not have to go back to the Ryders if they do not want to (although I would not mind at all), but there is still lots of mystery left in the Andromeda galaxy, and there is still an Ark missing.
The same can not be said about the Milky Way. All mystery is gone there, and the only thing left is to rebuild everything. For that you need architects, scientists and workers. Hardly anything exiting compared to the dark mysteries left in the Andromeda galaxy.
I still have hopes, but I fear they go for the cheap option with the smelling corpse.
I will guarantee you this: that even if they bring Shepard and company back for another adventure, the very same fans that have jumped up and down for joy for MEA to fail because it wasn't more of the same, they will be the ones that will scream the loudest: "It's nostalgia porn! It's too woke and the SJWs have ruined it and it sucks!" and so on because that is all they do and it's these so called"fans" that have ruined Star Wars, Doctor Who, Ghostbusters, The Matrix, DC, and so on because every single time one of these franchises does another god damn nostalgia wank fests which always suck to pander to these fucking morons because they don't want anything new and exciting but want the same old boring shit fed to them down a straw because chewing is too much work for these fucking morons. Honestly I would love to have BioWare swerve them and say "No, we're doing a direct sequel to MEA because he have a lot of new and exciting and cool stories to tell there!" Instead a cash grab based on nostalgia act which will most likely suck because it won't live up to memories and hype of the original trilogy.
And mark my words here: Going back to MWG and bringing back Commander Shepard will kill Mass Effect as a video game series faster than anything. This kind of stuff doesn't work for very long and does more harm than good. It makes BioWare look like their begging to their worst "fans" and pandering to these scumbag influencers who have and never will like their games is a bad move and one that never works out anyway.
And everything that has been stated about ME5 sounds like the worst kind of backwards nostalgia pandering bullshit, but hey what another empty hollow shell of a sci-fi franchise that's wasted potential for a quick nostalgia hit? I want Mass Effect as a video game series to go forwards not backwards.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 10, 2022 1:21:47 GMT
I agree with a guy who told me shortly after mea released. He said he believes MEA was done to see how well a ME game would do without Shepard and the Milky Way. EA got their answer. If there's any hints of MEA, it's to give hope to those fans believing there will be something in ME4. The teaser showed the Andromeda galaxy yet focused appears towards the Milky Way. Showing a character from the trilogy also hints that the Milky Way will be the setting with new characters or the return of Shepard. Nothing hinted at the lame, oops, I mean little duck making any appearance. Too bad the answer’s a bit more complicated than that, though I don’t expect the likes of EA or BioWare execs to really get why.
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Post by themikefest on Feb 10, 2022 1:37:31 GMT
I want Mass Effect as a video game series to go forwards not backwards. Ah yes, going forwards. Let's take a look at this going forward thing. In the trilogy, the player has the option to recruit or not recruit a squadmate. MEA does not have that option In the trilogy, the player has the option to use the power wheel to control the squadamtes to do whatever. MEA does not have that. In the trilogy, the omnitool looks realistic. In MEA, the omnitool looks like a 5 year old scribbled some orange coloring on the character's arm In the trilogy, the mako and Normandy have weapons. In MEA, the car and plane do not. I'm sure I missed a few, but you get the idea. MEA was a step backwards. If you want to have this going forward thing happen, then have ME4 in the Milky Way. There are stories that can be told, and Shepard's story is not over according to the guy. He did say one more story, right?
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 10, 2022 6:14:44 GMT
I completely agree. If they go the mindless cheap route back to the Milky Way, and resurrect Zombie Shepard again I won't buy the game and abandon the whole franchise. The Milky Way tale is done and over with, and especially Shepard has to stay blast to pieces, incinerated and buried under five miles of concrete and 200 meters of reinforced steel. They do not have to go back to the Ryders if they do not want to (although I would not mind at all), but there is still lots of mystery left in the Andromeda galaxy, and there is still an Ark missing.
The same can not be said about the Milky Way. All mystery is gone there, and the only thing left is to rebuild everything. For that you need architects, scientists and workers. Hardly anything exiting compared to the dark mysteries left in the Andromeda galaxy.
I still have hopes, but I fear they go for the cheap option with the smelling corpse.
I will guarantee you this: that even if they bring Shepard and company back for another adventure, the very same fans that have jumped up and down for joy for MEA to fail because it wasn't more of the same, they will be the ones that will scream the loudest: "It's nostalgia porn! It's too woke and the SJWs have ruined it and it sucks!" and so on because that is all they do and it's these so called"fans" that have ruined Star Wars, Doctor Who, Ghostbusters, The Matrix, DC, and so on because every single time one of these franchises does another god damn nostalgia wank fests which always suck to pander to these fucking morons because they don't want anything new and exciting but want the same old boring shit fed to them down a straw because chewing is too much work for these fucking morons. Honestly I would love to have BioWare swerve them and say "No, we're doing a direct sequel to MEA because he have a lot of new and exciting and cool stories to tell there!" Instead a cash grab based on nostalgia act which will most likely suck because it won't live up to memories and hype of the original trilogy.
And mark my words here: Going back to MWG and bringing back Commander Shepard will kill Mass Effect as a video game series faster than anything. This kind of stuff doesn't work for very long and does more harm than good. It makes BioWare look like their begging to their worst "fans" and pandering to these scumbag influencers who have and never will like their games is a bad move and one that never works out anyway.
And everything that has been stated about ME5 sounds like the worst kind of backwards nostalgia pandering bullshit, but hey what another empty hollow shell of a sci-fi franchise that's wasted potential for a quick nostalgia hit? I want Mass Effect as a video game series to go forwards not backwards.
I agree, I think it will be a major mistake if the entire game is really a game that is Shepard and crew after ME3. For I think basing what a game is going to be on from a preview trailer years before release and probably years before primary production starts can be misleading. What I am hoping will happen is that its going to be a lot of what they would have wanted the plot of Andromeda 2 to be, but at the start there is something that ties the events back to The Milky Way. That is where my mindset is going to probably stay until there is official word otherwise because I don't want to go into the game with expecting the worst, for then no matter what they do its going to be the worst.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 10, 2022 6:37:35 GMT
I want Mass Effect as a video game series to go forwards not backwards. Ah yes, going forwards. Let's take a look at this going forward thing. In the trilogy, the player has the option to recruit or not recruit a squadmate. MEA does not have that option In the trilogy, the player has the option to use the power wheel to control the squadamtes to do whatever. MEA does not have that. In the trilogy, the omnitool looks realistic. In MEA, the omnitool looks like a 5 year old scribbled some orange coloring on the character's arm In the trilogy, the mako and Normandy have weapons. In MEA, the car and plane do not. I'm sure I missed a few, but you get the idea. MEA was a step backwards. If you want to have this going forward thing happen, then have ME4 in the Milky Way. There are stories that can be told, and Shepard's story is not over according to the guy. He did say one more story, right? They never said that there was another Shepard story. Just that there was another story. I think it will be a mistake on BioWare's part to abandon the story beats that were in Andromeda for no matter what people think of the story there just abandoning them I think will cost them more consumers then what they will get back. People wouldn't trust BioWare not to do the same thing again if they think it will bring back players if this attempt at a player grab fails.
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Post by faerlyte on Feb 10, 2022 7:03:20 GMT
I think there's a lot of bitterness showing in this thread.
I didn't get the impression that Andromeda was being abandoned from the trailer. They show the Andromeda galaxy for a reason so it's going to be there in some capacity.. It's also going to tie in with Shepard somehow, because there's no other reason to show Liara picking up the N7 insignia from the helmet. Whether that means the game will be another Shepard and Co., or something else, who knows? I think it's feasible that your character and company are searching FOR Shepard, because no matter what ending is chosen Shepard disappeared and if the Universe canon is that Cerberus was willing to spend a fortune to revive this one person, it's not a stretch that the crew left behind in Shepard's disappearance would go in search of him/her. They could feasibly be seeking answers since Shepard's choice is what essentially changes the course of the galaxy. And because Shepard is a dear friend and companion that many people hoped their LI's would go in search of following the end of the trilogy. There's a lot of emotional attachment there and maybe a need for closure in that respect, especially given that we don't really know what has happened to Shepard.
Or, it could be none of that. I don't have a horse in this race. There are things I would prefer, and it wouldn't bother me to be Shepard again, but I will play the game no matter what.
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Post by Gileadan on Feb 10, 2022 7:17:18 GMT
The quality of a new Mass Effect game is quite unaffected by what galaxy it would be set in.
Obviously, it doesn't matter for the gameplay. The writing could be good or bad, no matter whether the protagonist is named Shepard, Ryder or Noobie McNooberson. The Andromeda galaxy is unexplored except for one cluster, the Milky Way is about 98% unexplored? A new game could be set in an unexplored cluster the size of Heleus in either galaxy and until we found something clearly specific to one of them like a Jardaan vault or a dead reaper, we wouldn't even know the difference.
It all comes down to what characters people want to see again.
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 10, 2022 9:11:47 GMT
The quality of a new Mass Effect game is quite unaffected by what galaxy it would be set in. Obviously, it doesn't matter for the gameplay. The writing could be good or bad, no matter whether the protagonist is named Shepard, Ryder or Noobie McNooberson. The Andromeda galaxy is unexplored except for one cluster, the Milky Way is about 98% unexplored? A new game could be set in an unexplored cluster the size of Heleus in either galaxy and until we found something clearly specific to one of them like a Jardaan vault or a dead reaper, we wouldn't even know the difference. It all comes down to what characters people want to see again. I slightly disagree with it just being characters people want to see. For me the reason why I want Andromeda (or at least the story they started in Andromeda) to continue is there are still plot threads hanging that I would like to see addressed and wouldn't want them to just pretend Andromeda never happened.
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There is still ME:A merch so probably there are still buyers for that too and they don't want to abandon them (they want their money too).
I wonder if a sequel featuring Andromeda would do better with such a simple change as having a more military and serious protagonist? Playing Shepard is a fantasy to most people because most of us aren't in the military and if some are, they're probably not super soldiers... and Ryder, on the other hand, is quite relatable and could be any of us with sufficient fitness and if given a SAM. Maybe the problem with ME:A was dismissing the need for a power fantasy?
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Post by themikefest on Feb 10, 2022 12:45:55 GMT
They never said that there was another Shepard story. Just that there was another story. The guy said one more story. Bioware had that guy say that line of dialogue for a reason. Him saying the details changed over time, it happened so long ago means it's possible for Shepard to return for ME4. They abandoned the Milky Way when Shepard's story isn't finished. I slightly disagree with it just being characters people want to see. For me the reason why I want Andromeda (or at least the story they started in Andromeda) to continue is there are still plot threads hanging that I would like to see addressed and wouldn't want them to just pretend Andromeda never happened. If there's to be an MEA2 with little Ryder returning, I want it to take place a short time after the events of MEA. That's because of the kett. They are the main threat. The Initiative has nothing to defend against them as seen when the Hyperion was taken. If anything, I would like to see the kett attack the Initiative in force. Getting rid of the Initiative wouldn't be hard. They know the location of the Nexus and outposts. I believe they also know the location of Aya. They show up in force attacking the Nexus. Within a few minutes, the Nexus is destroyed. The only reason I would want a sequel is because of the benefactor. If it wasn't for the Initiative, would he/it/they/she sit back while the galaxy burned instead of giving whatever information they knew about some threat before Shepard showed up in ME1? One way to get my attention for another game in Andromeda is to have the game take place far in the future where Ryder is a passing memory. Get a new main character and new side characters. I wonder if a sequel featuring Andromeda would do better with such a simple change as having a more military and serious protagonist? Playing Shepard is a fantasy to most people because most of us aren't in the military and if some are, they're probably not super soldiers... and Ryder, on the other hand, is quite relatable and could be any of us with sufficient fitness and if given a SAM. Maybe the problem with ME:A was dismissing the need for a power fantasy? They have experience and training in the military yet prove how unfit they are. Did the Alliance and their father, a former N7, train that stuff that Ryder does in the game? Whatever the little one learned went in one ear and out the other. It's all about the I don't care attitude. I could walk up to Ryder, smack them around like a little ragdoll, watch then fall to the ground, curl up into a fetal position, then start sucking their thumb. Some have posted, Ryder could be more mature in a sequel. To get me to believe she/he has, I like to see that right at the beginning of the game. A new squadmate asks why the stowaway and traitor are no longer on the roster. Ryder came to theconclusion that doing stupid thing can lead to bad things. Doesn't want that to happen again. To correct that, he/she removed the stowaway and traitor from the roster. That would be a start.
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Post by Pounce de León on Feb 10, 2022 13:08:30 GMT
I dont think they abondoned it. It's just BW doesnt exist anymore as we know it and is perhaps no longer able to pull it off.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Feb 10, 2022 13:37:30 GMT
There is still ME:A merch so probably there are still buyers for that too and they don't want to abandon them (they want their money too). I wonder if a sequel featuring Andromeda would do better with such a simple change as having a more military and serious protagonist? Playing Shepard is a fantasy to most people because most of us aren't in the military and if some are, they're probably not super soldiers... and Ryder, on the other hand, is quite relatable and could be any of us with sufficient fitness and if given a SAM. Maybe the problem with ME:A was dismissing the need for a power fantasy? Or they just play it because it's entertainment. Also, super soldiers don't exist in today's military. So don't know why you'd say that. 😕
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Post by Sanunes on Feb 10, 2022 13:41:17 GMT
They never said that there was another Shepard story. Just that there was another story. The guy said one more story. Bioware had that guy say that line of dialogue for a reason. Him saying the details changed over time, it happened so long ago means it's possible for Shepard to return for ME4. They abandoned the Milky Way when Shepard's story isn't finished. I slightly disagree with it just being characters people want to see. For me the reason why I want Andromeda (or at least the story they started in Andromeda) to continue is there are still plot threads hanging that I would like to see addressed and wouldn't want them to just pretend Andromeda never happened. If there's to be an MEA2 with little Ryder returning, I want it to take place a short time after the events of MEA. That's because of the kett. They are the main threat. The Initiative has nothing to defend against them as seen when the Hyperion was taken. If anything, I would like to see the kett attack the Initiative in force. Getting rid of the Initiative wouldn't be hard. They know the location of the Nexus and outposts. I believe they also know the location of Aya. They show up in force attacking the Nexus. Within a few minutes, the Nexus is destroyed. The only reason I would want a sequel is because of the benefactor. If it wasn't for the Initiative, would he/it/they/she sit back while the galaxy burned instead of giving whatever information they knew about some threat before Shepard showed up in ME1? One way to get my attention for another game in Andromeda is to have the game take place far in the future where Ryder is a passing memory. Get a new main character and new side characters. I wonder if a sequel featuring Andromeda would do better with such a simple change as having a more military and serious protagonist? Playing Shepard is a fantasy to most people because most of us aren't in the military and if some are, they're probably not super soldiers... and Ryder, on the other hand, is quite relatable and could be any of us with sufficient fitness and if given a SAM. Maybe the problem with ME:A was dismissing the need for a power fantasy? They have experience and training in the military yet prove how unfit they are. Did the Alliance and their father, a former N7, train that stuff that Ryder does in the game? Whatever the little one learned went in one ear and out the other. It's all about the I don't care attitude. I could walk up to Ryder, smack them around like a little ragdoll, watch then fall to the ground, curl up into a fetal position, then start sucking their thumb. Some have posted, Ryder could be more mature in a sequel. To get me to believe she/he has, I like to see that right at the beginning of the game. A new squadmate asks why the stowaway and traitor are no longer on the roster. Ryder came to theconclusion that doing stupid thing can lead to bad things. Doesn't want that to happen again. To correct that, he/she removed the stowaway and traitor from the roster. That would be a start. 1) Never said it wasn't possible, but what I am saying it that it doesn't mean that Shepard will return either and if they want to they can keep them in a plastic baggie. 2) Where is Shepard's story not finished? We either destroyed or enslaved The Reapers, we ended the threat of Cerberus, we know who created The Reapers and why, and Dark Energy was abandoned by BioWare. I don't see where any plot in the Shepard Trilogy wasn't addressed in some fashion to a conclusion. Unless you get one specific ending Shepard is dead again, but this time there isn't even a corpse they dissolved like a Star Trek transporter beam. 3) I never said it had to be the Ryder Twins that need to be the protagonists just that there are some plot threads I would want to see continued. As far as the Kett go the primary story mission with them is done they are just off somewhere licking their wounds and left the system we are in for at least now. They abandoned the Archon and the game took the effort to point out the Archon was disobeying orders. Yes we didn't dominate the species, but right now there isn't an active plot with them aside that they exist and they don't like us. I also never said that the game had to take place in Andromeda either just that there were plotlines I didn't want abandoned from the game.
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Post by Ravenfeeder on Feb 10, 2022 14:25:10 GMT
2) Where is Shepard's story not finished? We either destroyed or enslaved The Reapers, we ended the threat of Cerberus, we know who created The Reapers and why, and Dark Energy was abandoned by BioWare. I don't see where any plot in the Shepard Trilogy wasn't addressed in some fashion to a conclusion. Unless you get one specific ending Shepard is dead again, but this time there isn't even a corpse they dissolved like a Star Trek transporter beam. Yeah, Shepard's arc is done. Time to move on, not necessarily to Andromeda, although I would be happy with that as I've recently been enjoying the game after the initial disappointment put me off.
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