The Alliance or Cerberus?

My Shepard liked working with Cerberus. There was no for.

After waking up and learning the Alliance made no effort to confirm Shepard's death. They made no effort to find a way to stop the reapers. This is confirmed by the king clown Anderscum. It made sense to work with Cerberus. Cerberus provides a ship and lots of resources. What would the Alliance have provided? After defeating the collectors, the Alliance decide it would be a good idea to lock Shepard up instead of having him/her looking for clues to stopping the reapers. 2.5 years wasted. The worst part is right at the beginning of ME3, king clown Anderscum has the balls to say they need Shepard to help them find a way to stop the reapers. Where was that help in ME2? The clown did tell Shepard it's up to him/her to find a way to stop the reapers. **** you Anderscum. **** you circus, I mean Alliance.

In ME4, I like to see the Alliance leadership reduced to working in the custodian arts field. Then have the Alliance become part of Cerberus once Cerberus is rebuilt.

So long as TIM isn't in charge of them or is following his way of doing things, Cerberus.

#F🤬🤬k the Alliance.

I'd say the Alliance, atleast lorewise. Sadly, they suffer from the typical "good guy army"-syndrom which is in a lot of games, movies etc. They basically get nothing done, show up in person only to die dramatically so our heroes can do all the heavy lifting on their own and ofcourse even limiting our hero squad in what they can do by harassing them with distrust and restricting their authority.

Cerberus on the other hand is shown to be pretty effective and powerful if you're excluding ME1. However at the latest with TIM's change from the dubious and ruthless mysterious figure with still noble intentions to plain evil in ME3 it's hard to want to them on your side. Death camps, preparing their personnel for full external control via Reaper implants, abducting civilians and modifing them into willing soldiers.. there's not much to argue here. Personally I still would have liked it a lot if a full paragon Shep was able to convince TIM to join the fight with him after Rannoch or so and therefore a united human force standing in the first line in the fight against the Reapers.

Neither, but if have to choose, clearly not Cerberus. Thankfully they were destroyed at the end of ME1 (my headcanon ends at ME1 nowadays for OT and continues in MEA )

Alliance. I mean, Rogue VI, Toombs, Husk colonies, thorian creepers and Jack. I now know that TIM has always been directly involved in all of his projects. No hiding that he didn't know he turned entire human colonies into husks.

The Alliance is full of morons but, generally speaking, they're well-meaning morons. Cerberus is just evil.

It would have been better if Cerb had been more inbetween good and evil (like saving a human colony from batarian slavers but does experiments on aliens, seeing what makes them tick).

Instead of, you know, comic/cartoon villians.

But Cerberus could been written better then "we is evilz, for the sake of being evilz".

Also, the same could be applied to the Council in terms of handwaving away the evil things that they've done.

Edit: forgot to add this, the things that they did in ME1 didn't make a kick of sense. Seeing as their goal was to safeguard humanity.

It always baffled why the Alliance would brown nose to the Council, given their history.

Can't remember if this was an early idea from Bio or if was a fan idea, but weren't Legion's geth at one point ment to bring back Shep in ME2?

Given how the salarians and asari left them high and dry throughout most of the Reaper War, they regret that choice. 😄

Also, thanks for clearing that up that last part.

Cerberus are fascist terrorists. And respnsible for spawning thorian creeper husks all through 2nd half of ME1. I hate them.

Yeah, I think that the asari councilor used that as a smokescreen to not get the asari involved in the early stages of the war.

Guess you say that when their homeworld fell it was poetic justice.

With ME3, I don't really fault the Councilors for anything. Remember, they are merely representatives of their leadership. You can even tell how out of the loop they are from their leaders with Tevos sounding genuinely surprised at the existence of the artifact on Thessia (compared to her replacement who is a Matriarch who was in the know from the start).

Though for the asari, I will argue that they didn't wait until Thessia was under attack to help. They start giving lots of help (the third most behind Krogan and Geth if we go by EMS points) to the Alliance after the Citadel Coup. As for the Salarians, they depend more on how much you basically fracture their government if you don't sabotage the cure.