Mythal's Revenge - who should be the vessel?

Really hard to say with Flemeth. She is arguably one of the more enigmatic characters in the series, despite her obvious interest in preserving ancient things. The only thing I am fairly certain of is her NOT being completely dead (or as dead as she can be). Given her rather passionate dialogue on revenge and betrayal in DAI, I can't see her bowing out when Solas did what he did. I think she wants to see her revenge through herself, and set backup plans accordingly.

So I can see her taking the form of anything from the Well Drinker, another Witch of the Wilds, a random revenge-fueled companion, Solas, or even as the spirit that arose from the Well. But as for which is the most likely? I'm going to say either the Well Drinker or Morrigan. But I'm not too sure how long she'll stick around in either case. For Morrigan in particular, I am beginning to think Flemeth may well want her to be the 'inheritor' for more than just (or without) Mythal's wisp.

I'd prefer it to be the well drinker if it happens, so the choice has weight. Obviously that adds complexity in regards the inquisitor. If they aren't planning to use them as a visible NPC character then i've voted for Yavana.

Why wouldn't Claudia come back?

Why would this be a problem though? It wouldn't be the first time they have changed the character's VA. Look at Anders. He changed from Awakening to DA2 and yet they managed to get the new VA similar enough that it wasn't that noticeable, even with such a short time period. The slight difference could also be explained by having absorbed Justice, so with if Morrigan sounded a bit different from having absorbed Flemeth/Mythal, there you go.

I hope they don't quietly forget about everything that was hinted at with Morrigan. Ditto the Well of Sorrows. It had so little real significance in DAI/Trespasser that I can't believe that was it. Also, why was Solas so interested in what we would do with the knowledge? Clearly, he meant, after we had dealt with Corypheus. If Morrigan drank, I wanted to say "why don't you ask her", since it was obvious I would have no control over what happened to it if she chose not to involve me. He also seemed to approve if the Inquisitor indicated they would be the sole arbiter of what was done with it. Was that truly because he was mistrustful of a group controlling such power or because a single person is easier to manipulate? If Flemeth/Mythal didn't remove the geas before she died, then knowing where Mythal currently resides is going to be important to the future use of such knowledge. "Everything you do from now on, whether you know it or not, will be for her."

The other important question would be: does Mythal support Solas' plan in its entirety or merely the removing of the Veil part? Mythal wanted a reckoning "to shake the very heavenes" and dropping the Veil would certainly do that. Solas also had "plans" for dealing with the Evanuris. Was Mythal always part of those plans? If so, then absorbing her power was probably always something he intended. This seems likely since Flemeth was expecting him. Was this only because the plan had altered, owing to the orb being broken, or was the original plan to meet her with orb in hand? So whilst he needed to find a new source of power, absorbing some aspect of Mythal was not an alternative to the orb but simply revising the order in which he did things. Flemeth knew this and that is why she went along with it, but had her own contingency plan involving whatever she put into the eluvian. I fairly certain that is going to be important in the future.

Anders might be the proof of concept on why this might be a problem.  Though ironically he did not bother me...but it does occur to me that a lot of people had issues with the differences in the character and that could have come down to the perception of differences between the voice actors.  

But since Claudia Black is my second favorite actress of all time and since she just is Morrigan and her voice it is going to be hella hard to imagine anyone else being able to replace her.  Sure its possible but anyone else stepping into those shoes has a very high bar to rise to.  

Hopefully, it won't come to that. I'm sure she would be willing to voice Morrigan again and would try to fit it into her schedule if she possibly can. After all, it is only likely to be a smallish section, probably even less than in DAI. The only small misgiving I have is the fact that we have gone from Morrigan as narrator of the epilogue in DAI (after also featuring in the original trailer) to Varric voicing the trailer in 2020. Now may be this is because they wish to keep us guessing about Morrigan's future involvement but for consistency they should have gone with Morrigan as this would have connected it back to that original trailer in 2013.   Incidentally, I still believe that showed the Veil actually ripping open, not just the hole that Corypheus punched in it.

Mythal was killed.
A fragment of her survived.
It has gone through the ages from body to body.
Flemeth the host was killed (by the Warden or the Darkspawn) but she still managed to preserve a fragment of herself via Hawke/Sundermount ritual.
The host was killed and the fragment was absorbed by Solas.

I would say that's enough.

There has to be a limit; settings where death becomes an unserious thing, IMO invariably lose charm and seriousness.

You would think so, wouldn't you? Unsurprisingly, most of us veteran players tend not to assume anyone is permanently dead these days until someone from the writing team confirms it and even then you feel you can never be sure. Let's face it, when we ask Solas why he didn't just kill the Evanuris, he says that he couldn't be sure they would remain dead. Well he should know.

I think the likelihood of remaining dead rises in inverse proportion to your importance in the story. It's a bit like the old Star Trek episodes. If you are just some random unnamed squad member, chances are you will kick the bucket if you are part of the landing party, if you have a name, your life expectancy is a little higher and if you are a long standing cast member then the risk to you is negligible.

Even villains seem to be able to work this loop hole with regard to death in Thedas. Thus, the best bet to render them harmless is to consign them to wherever Solas sent the Evanuris and then never let them out again. For some reason, he has changed his mind on this; I can't wait to see what his "plans" for them turn out to be, should he be successful in dropping the Veil. (heavy sarcasm). Remember Solas, in Thedas death is never an end, just new beginning.

The contrast in how the two elven gods have been surviving has been pretty interesting. Solas lying in wait to make a big return vs Flemeth being all sneaky and shit but also very much more active, giving history nudges and the occasional shove. Overall, I'd be giving Flemeth the trickery crown. Solas' exit from the gate has very much been a reclamation of power whereas Flemeth's approach has been knowing when to divest it in favor of influence. Her speech to Morrigan about it not being forced also implies that she thinks she has very good, compelling reasons and that, whoever the vessel is, they tend to be convinced. So Solas might have a Mythal voice in his head but he simply chooses to ignore it, probably easier said than done.

Does Solas know of Mythal doing this though? Breaking herself up in bits? He might know of the Well but if he assumed Mythal is a singular unit, like he seems to be, he might think the Well is now largely a non-issue. Ie he absorbed Mythal thus whoever drank from it is under his influence, not hers. But she has backups, whatever she left in the Eluvian, Morrigan, potential other daughters, potential other items like the amulet etc. Maybe even Morrigan's kid.

Anyway, Morrigan makes the most thematic sense EXCEPT a Solasmancer, I think. Especially a Solasmancer who wants to stab Solas repeatedly in the head area. 

"Somehow Leliana returned"
Hopefully they learned their lesson and try not to bring back characters too often. At least Flemeth/Mythal comes with an excuse built in that is more believable than the "lyrium spirit" excuse they dredged up for Leliana (and it only took them until Trespasser!).

He doesn't exist at all in some world states and is now just a regular young man in the others, even though he had a different childhood experience depending on whether he was the OGB or not. The last part could be overlooked but not the former. It would require more than just a convenient resurrection by a spirit to explain his existence. So, whilst he might appear in a cameo role alongside Morrigan, or even in his own optional side-quest, he cannot be a companion, which would require his existence in every world state.

I'm pretty sure, it's stupid Morrigan yet again. I just hope, we can kill her for good this time.
I would prefer, if Flemeth would be the one though and maybe that is not that far fetched, given how she escaped before.

I don't think, I can stand Morrigan and Solas in the same game again. I might loose my mind a bit...