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Post by dayze on Oct 4, 2022 18:00:42 GMT
Came across a post talking about how Aldenon could have a connection with dirthamen and Parlathan, especially since Aldenon has taken Parlathan's place with Calenhad.
Doing some research on the name found out it came from a celtic myth, of an individual that led an immigration to ireland, died of a plague at some point and could reincarnate into new lives via animal changing and remember his past ones.
And that really made me think about Morrigan, celtic mythology, animal based shape changing and in regards to reincarnation and remembering her past lives, having Morrigan wanting to take over her body and live on again.
That and Aldenon being a powerful apostate mage hailing from the mountains, I wouldn't be surprised if he had shape changing as well. Aldenon also seemed to have some capacity to predict the future ala Flemeth.
Which if Parlathan and Aldenon have a similar connection to Dirthamen that Flemeth does with Mythal, makes me start to wonder just how many Elven gods are wondering around and just how effectively locked away they really are.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 1, 2022 15:00:14 GMT
And that really made me think about Morrigan, celtic mythology, animal based shape changing and in regards to reincarnation and remembering her past lives, having Morrigan wanting to take over her body and live on again. I think the writers borrowed bits from a number of Celtic myths. Certainly, Morrigan being a shapeshifter and particularly her ability to transform into a raven is directly linked to the mythological Morrigan, a member of the triad of war witches of the Tuatha de Dannan. I think the change of the lore concerning Parlathen to Aldanon was simple carelessness on the part of the codex writer. Aldanon/Parlathen was definitely "Merlin" to Calenhad's "Arthur". Unfortunately, the whole Calenhad mythos was altered in the comic series subsequent to DA2. That started to whole mysterious bloodline business, with him gaining his powers through drinking the blood of an ancient dragon, a story put forward by the Qunari, which I found hard to understand considering they didn't even appear in Thedas until some 90 years after Calenhad was made king, so how did they know? He was also said to have gained the knowledge how to do this from a witch not a wizard. So, if the story was true, then he was working secretly with a witch as well as openly with Aldanon. Which if Parlathan and Aldenon have a similar connection to Dirthamen Where did you see this connection? I was never aware that either of these characters had a connection with Dirthamen, although the revised history for Parlathan that has him as a Tevinter mage, could mean he had acquired his knowledge from elven ruins and thus indirectly from Dirthamen. Of course, the other link for a Ferelden mage would be the Avvar and thus also the Alamarri from whom they were an offshoot. Their god Sigfront, the Great Bear, is the guardian of wisdom, which seems very similar a descriptor to Dirthamen, whose sacred animal is also a bear. I feel there has to be some sort of link between the ancient barbarians of the south and the ancient elves. It could well be that the barbarians raised structures over the ruins of the elven empire, just as the Neromenians did in the north. makes me start to wonder just how many Elven gods are wondering around and just how effectively locked away they really are. At least with regard to the "gods" of the Avvar, we need to remember that they know they are spirits and spirits can retain the memory of people and locations. So, it is entirely possible that the Avvar gods bear such a similarity to the Evanuris because they were simply copying and repeating certain memories they had retained of them. |
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Post by dayze on Nov 3, 2022 23:07:15 GMT
And that really made me think about Morrigan, celtic mythology, animal based shape changing and in regards to reincarnation and remembering her past lives, having Morrigan wanting to take over her body and live on again. I think the writers borrowed bits from a number of Celtic myths. Certainly, Morrigan being a shapeshifter and particularly her ability to transform into a raven is directly linked to the mythological Morrigan, a member of the triad of war witches of the Tuatha de Dannan. I think the change of the lore concerning Parlathen to Aldanon was simple carelessness on the part of the codex writer. Aldanon/Parlathen was definitely "Merlin" to Calenhad's "Arthur". Unfortunately, the whole Calenhad mythos was altered in the comic series subsequent to DA2. That started to whole mysterious bloodline business, with him gaining his powers through drinking the blood of an ancient dragon, a story put forward by the Qunari, which I found hard to understand considering they didn't even appear in Thedas until some 90 years after Calenhad was made king, so how did they know? He was also said to have gained the knowledge how to do this from a witch not a wizard. So, if the story was true, then he was working secretly with a witch as well as openly with Aldanon. Which if Parlathan and Aldenon have a similar connection to Dirthamen Where did you see this connection? I was never aware that either of these characters had a connection with Dirthamen, although the revised history for Parlathan that has him as a Tevinter mage, could mean he had acquired his knowledge from elven ruins and thus indirectly from Dirthamen. Of course, the other link for a Ferelden mage would be the Avvar and thus also the Alamarri from whom they were an offshoot. Their god Sigfront, the Great Bear, is the guardian of wisdom, which seems very similar a descriptor to Dirthamen, whose sacred animal is also a bear. I feel there has to be some sort of link between the ancient barbarians of the south and the ancient elves. It could well be that the barbarians raised structures over the ruins of the elven empire, just as the Neromenians did in the north. makes me start to wonder just how many Elven gods are wondering around and just how effectively locked away they really are. At least with regard to the "gods" of the Avvar, we need to remember that they know they are spirits and spirits can retain the memory of people and locations. So, it is entirely possible that the Avvar gods bear such a similarity to the Evanuris because they were simply copying and repeating certain memories they had retained of them. Considering Calenhad and Arthurian myths', I'm guessing the witch is some thematic replacement for Arthur's sister Morgana. The Lore ever say if Calenhad had a sister? As for the connection Parlathan/Aldenon and Dirthamen.....I didn't come up with that one, found it online on reddit; Dirthamen is "the keeper of secrets" and Aldenon also refers to himself as "the keeper of secrets". The room at the center of Dirthamen's temple is called "the room of the oracle", Aldenon could see the future to some extent. That being said; even the original poster didn't believe they were exactly one and the same but there did seem to be some possible connection. About Spirit's copying and repeating, was something I hadn't even thought about before. Could do a lot to explain the similarities of gods and deities in other pantheons like Korth and Andruil.
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