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Post by eaglepursuit on Mar 28, 2023 13:15:08 GMT
The synopsis for the 4th issue has me intrigued, it mentions entering Minrathous, which means we might get another glipse of what the city looks like ingame. I imagine the devs shared some game art for the comic artist to reference. Plus Varric's informant. That person has a high chance of being someone in the game, whether as an NPC, companion, or even the PC.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 28, 2023 13:15:27 GMT
I imagine the devs shared some game art for the comic artist to reference. Considering the series is meant to be a lead in to the game and we have already seen how they have instructed a new appearance for Varric, I am hoping the final issue will give us some insight into how Minrathous is going to appear. However, a lot depends on how Varric/Harding arrive there and where they are headed. We saw only very little of Vyrantium and I'm pretty sure the great aqueduct mentioned in Tevinter Nights wasn't even visible on the horizon, so it may be that our view of Minrathous will be similarly limited, particularly if they are mostly going to be in just one district, for example the docks, or even underneath it for the most part, as it does have a considerable network of catacombs. However, at present I suspect we will see not much more than this: I wouldn't be surprised if this lady is their contact in the city.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 28, 2023 18:08:02 GMT
You mean the mean-faced lady mage with red lyrium growing out of her satchel?
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 28, 2023 18:54:55 GMT
You mean the mean-faced lady mage with red lyrium growing out of her satchel? I wouldn't call her mean faced exactly. Serious, wary, focused perhaps. Also, having a lump of red lyrium doesn't necessarily mean she approves of the stuff. May be she was asked to obtain proof that other people had it. Of course, she could be an antagonist/supporter of the Venatori, even the mysterious person who has been following them around, although personally I think they are going to turn out to be something other than a Venatori. However, if she does turn out to be their contact in Minrathous, may be we shall finally have a name to put to that picture.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 28, 2023 22:52:39 GMT
You mean the mean-faced lady mage with red lyrium growing out of her satchel? I wouldn't call her mean faced exactly. Serious, wary, focused perhaps. Also, having a lump of red lyrium doesn't necessarily mean she approves of the stuff. May be she was asked to obtain proof that other people had it. Of course, she could be an antagonist/supporter of the Venatori, even the mysterious person who has been following them around, although personally I think they are going to turn out to be something other than a Venatori. However, if she does turn out to be their contact in Minrathous, may be we shall finally have a name to put to that picture. Haha I’m just teasing Gervaise. Whoever she is, she looks intriguing. I do think she’s an enemy though - before sharing this concept art, Matt Goldman tweeted about villains, then tweeted this. I’m very excited to meet her nonetheless.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 29, 2023 4:46:01 GMT
I just finished reading issue #3. This was my favorite one because things actually happened lol. I recommend people read this one over the rest. Tbh, you could skip the first two. In hindsight I don't think they're that necessary, unless you want to meet new characters. There's a nice surprise in this one that lore fans will absolutely love, and like I said, things finally get interesting.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 29, 2023 4:47:13 GMT
I just finished reading issue #3. This was my favorite one because things actually happened lol. I recommend people read this one over the rest. Tbh, you could skip the first two. In hindsight I don't think they're that necessary, unless you want to meet new characters. There's a nice surprise in this one that lore fans will absolutely love, and like I said, things finally get interesting. spoil me.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Mar 29, 2023 5:07:10 GMT
I just finished reading issue #3. This was my favorite one because things actually happened lol. I recommend people read this one over the rest. Tbh, you could skip the first two. In hindsight I don't think they're that necessary, unless you want to meet new characters. There's a nice surprise in this one that lore fans will absolutely love, and like I said, things finally get interesting. spoil me. Lol okay Arlthan is a twisted magical mess (Veil Jumpers are just a trained group of dalish and humans who run around Arlathan forest, essentially) and while the group is traversing, Varric begins to grow weak and is attacked by a leopard, but is saved by a Venatori... who turns out to be Solas (this part was trippy, but it is suggested that Solas saved Varric.) Solas then leaves a (condescending) letter behind where the crucious stone was supposed to be, telling Varric to stop his pursuit. Harding believes that the chaotic magic from Arlathan will spread if Solas isn't stopped - her words not mine. That doesn't bode well, because the magic potently screws with reality, causing strange hallucinations. The Veil Jumpers being able to withstand that magic makes them look pretty cool. The surprise is a new mural (I think taken from in-game, like the dreadwolf mural we've already seen that's next to it), with what appears to be two female Evanuris embracing eachother. Their headresses are similar to the monnhead symbol and the outward-pointed horns symbol. One also appears to be preganant.
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Post by colfoley on Mar 29, 2023 5:19:40 GMT
spoil me. Lol okay Arlthan is a twisted magical mess (Veil Jumpers are just a trained group of dalish and humans who run around Arlathan forest, essentially) and while the group is traversing, Varric begins to grow weak and is attacked by a leopard, but is saved by a Venatori... who turns out to be Solas (this part was trippy, but it is suggested that Solas saved Varric.) Solas then leaves a (condescending) letter behind where the crucious stone was supposed to be, telling Varric to stop his pursuit. Harding believes that the chaotic magic from Arlathan will spread if Solas isn't stopped - her words not mine. That doesn't bode well, because the magic potently screws with reality, causing strange hallucinations. The Veil Jumpers being able to withstand that magic makes them look pretty cool. The surprise is a new mural (I think taken from in-game, like the dreadwolf mural we've already seen that's next to it), with what appears to be two female Evanuris embracing eachother. Their headresses are similar to the monnhead symbol and the outward-pointed horns symbol. One also appears to be preganant. *blinks*
hollllllllyyyy hell. I was generally assuming that the upturned horned one would've been male which would've kind of ruled out Andruil but A. I wanna see Andruil because probably my favorite/ most interesting of the Evanuris that are left for me so it would've been super interesting to *meet* her...but this didn't seem likely given the likely gender. And B. didn't make a lot of sense to me because Andruil has actually been mentioned a fair bit recently in big ways and small ways and given that the other one is likely Ghilinanan...Elven words are difficult...it does actually create an interesting relationship between the two Evanuris we may face off against in Dreadwolf in addition to Solas.
Of course I think this means that Caite/Ghil'dirthalen would be wrong in her position of the tamborine.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Mar 29, 2023 5:37:06 GMT
That was a great issue! It was cool to see a Varterral that was so different from the previous ones. I really hope we get to fight one in Dreadwolf .
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Mar 29, 2023 8:28:44 GMT
I read the third issue on my phone and I'm really not sure what I just read. Is the Crucious Stone going to be important in DA:D or are they going to wrap it up in the fourth issue?
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 29, 2023 8:42:53 GMT
See what you mean about the first two really being a bit of fluff before we get down to the nitty gritty. Wow. Varric begins to grow weak and is attacked by a leopard, but is saved by a Venatori... who turns out to be Solas (this part was trippy, but it is suggested that Solas saved Varric.) Solas then leaves a (condescending) letter behind where the crucious stone was supposed to be, telling Varric to stop his pursuit. Harding believes that the chaotic magic from Arlathan will spread if Solas isn't stopped - her words not mine. That doesn't bode well, because the magic potently screws with reality, causing strange hallucinations. So Solas being his usual enigmatic self. Do I take it that the mysterious "Venatori" following them was really Solas and hinting at something else was just misdirection on the part of the writers? I wouldn't be surprised if the Crucious Stone is another such red herring. Mind you, if Solas wanted them to stop following him, why keep leaving clues as to his next destination? If he didn't want them to know about the Stone, why not destroy the evidence after petrifying the mage in Vyrantium? If Harding is right and Solas is responsible for the state of Arlathan, then my theory that perhaps his ritual might initially only affect a localised area could be true. Was there any tangible evidence that Solas was responsible? I mean, Harding isn't even a mage, so how would she know the cause of the magic? Didn't Strife and Co have anything to say on the matter? The Veil Jumpers being able to withstand that magic makes them look pretty cool. Any suggestion as to where they acquired this skill? Clearly, it is not just an elven thing and so that may hint that it will be a specialism available to our hero, but an explanation as to where they learned it would be helpful. Strife's Keeper had an ancient tome on which words started to appear in that short story. I wonder if their instruction came from there? The surprise is a new mural (I think taken from in-game, like the dreadwolf mural we've already seen that's next to it), with what appears to be two female Evanuris embracing eachother. Their headresses are similar to the monnhead symbol and the outward-pointed horns symbol. One also appears to be preganant. Wow, that is.... surprising. Okay, so if they are both female and yet one is pregnant, that suggests someone else is the father. Hmm, I wonder who that could be? hollllllllyyyy hell. I was generally assuming that the upturned horned one would've been male which would've kind of ruled out Andruil I thought Ghil, or was it someone else*, suggested that bow head (the one on the left in the 2020 video) was likely Andruil because of the positioning of the discs but also the fact that she is known for her spear. Also, if the Old Gods are linked to the Evanuris, then the constellation for Razikale is also associated with Andruil. It is the constellation Eluvia that is known as Sacrifice, that was associated with the Old God and, of course, Morrigan says that Andruil is associated with sacrifice. The prayer to her in the Temple of Mythal also refers to this. However, yes, I thought the horn head on the right was more likely male. Is it definitely female? Which one is pregnant? Need to consider this information some more. *I've checked Ghil's analysis video and she does seem to think that bow head is Ghilan'nain, so I must be thinking of someone else with regard to Andruil.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 29, 2023 11:43:32 GMT
Been thinking some more about this revelation: Two figures painted by Solas are both female. Now this is problematic if you think they correspond to the images shown on the cinematic and they are connected to the two remaining Old Gods in some way, since I think everyone always assumed that Lusacan was male, although Razikale was always thought of by her followers as female. However, to be honest, there is no real reason why Lusacan had to be male.
The problem comes when you try to link them back to the Evanuris if you go by the connection made between gods in the constellations. Lusacan was definitely linked with Falon'Din and this god has always been thought of as one of two twin brothers. Given that it is said in the Temple of Mythal that they were actually "twin souls" with no family connection and that Falon'Din was often described as "Dirthamen's Shadow" and Dirthamen as "Falon'Din's reflection", it does seem more that they reflect opposite aspects of one another, so if Dirthamen was male, the opposite of that would be female and vice versa. I think Solas refers to Falon'Din as male in his story, so perhaps Dirthamen is the feminine aspect.
The two female gods that we know are recognised as having a close connection are Andruil and Ghilan'nain and their relationship could have been seen as a romantic one from some of the descriptions. So, if there is a connection between the Old Gods and the Evanuris, how would they fit the last two? I've already mentioned in my previous post about a link in the constellation Eluvia between Razikale and Andruil. However, leaving that aside, she could equally be seen as Lusacan, the god of shadows and darkness, bearing in mind what became of her in the Void and that she may have hunted from the shadows. That would then make Ghilan'nain correspond with Razikale, the goddess of mysteries. However, given the sort of experiments that Ghilan'nain was conducting, which seem to have been done in the shadows of the Deep Roads in secret, she could equally fit Lusacan.
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Post by Hrungr on Mar 29, 2023 13:37:19 GMT
Just finished reading the latest issue... - Yeah, that looks like Andy & Ghil. - Surprised the Venatori turned out to be Solas himself (and not a minion at the very least). - The woman on the cover to issue #4 does resemble the Tevinter woman in the earlier concept art.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 29, 2023 13:51:30 GMT
Just finished reading the latest issue... - The woman on the cover to issue #4 does resemble the Tevinter woman in the earlier concept art. I wouldn't be surprise if that concept art was what they sent to the illustrator to give them the idea of how she should look. The question now, is she friend or foe? I'm hoping for the former but will settle for the latter. I wonder if she has anything to do with the Viper?
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Post by ClarkKent on Mar 29, 2023 14:57:26 GMT
I just finished reading issue #3. This was my favorite one because things actually happened lol. I recommend people read this one over the rest. Tbh, you could skip the first two. In hindsight I don't think they're that necessary, unless you want to meet new characters. There's a nice surprise in this one that lore fans will absolutely love, and like I said, things finally get interesting. spoil me. Indeed. I need some sweet sweet summaries
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Post by necrowaif on Mar 29, 2023 15:26:33 GMT
Well, that was screwy-dooey. @_@ That’s not a Varterral. That’s a goddamn Ent. Either that’s a mistake or “Varterral” is just a generic term for elven guardian, which would be a shame since I liked the original Varterral’s design. Plus, we already have “sylvans” as our walking tree monsters. And those aren’t leopards! They’re cougars! COUGARS! But aside from that, I did laugh at Varric saying they should just let Tevinter burn. I read the third issue on my phone and I'm really not sure what I just read. Is the Crucious Stone going to be important in DA:D or are they going to wrap it up in the fourth issue? I think it is and was completely irrelevant. Maybe the Venatori thought it was important, but Solas got there first. So this was all a wild goose chase.
However, it did maybe show Varric and Harding that the Venatori could be a potential ally …?
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Post by Iddy on Mar 29, 2023 16:16:55 GMT
I wonder when will we see Cassandra again. Last time I checked, she was still part of the Inquisition that remained to fight against Solas.
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Post by cribbian on Mar 29, 2023 16:31:06 GMT
I'm happy that veil jumpers turned out to just be a name for a group and not people with some previously unheard of special ability that just happens to be perfect for the task at hand.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 29, 2023 16:33:16 GMT
I wonder when will we see Cassandra again. Last time I checked, she was still part of the Inquisition that remained to fight against Solas. All the main Inquisition members are still a part of the Inquisition. Some are just helping from their other positions now, like Cassandra as possibly the head of the Seekers and/or Divine Victoria.
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Post by Iddy on Mar 29, 2023 16:38:02 GMT
I wonder when will we see Cassandra again. Last time I checked, she was still part of the Inquisition that remained to fight against Solas. All the main Inquisition members are still a part of the Inquisition. Some are just helping from their other positions now, like Cassandra as possibly the head of the Seekers and/or Divine Victoria. Varric could be helping from his seat in Kirkwall, merely sending people and money, but here he is.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 29, 2023 16:42:08 GMT
The note that Solas left: Varric,
You need not have worried. The artifact was never in danger of falling into Venatori hands. I hope that in time you give up this pursuit. What must be done will be done cautiously, and I will limit damage as best I can. I have no wish to be the villain in one of your stories, but interfering in matters you do not understand can only make things worse.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 29, 2023 16:44:06 GMT
All the main Inquisition members are still a part of the Inquisition. Some are just helping from their other positions now, like Cassandra as possibly the head of the Seekers and/or Divine Victoria. Varric could be helping from his seat in Kirkwall, merely sending people and money, but here he is. Only because BioWare if forcing him on us yet again because apparently he’s Dragon Age’s mascot. If Cassandra shows up in the next game, it will only be a cameo since she can be a few different things. Only the people with less quantum endings (Varric, Dorian, Josephine, etc) can really show up in more prominent roles.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Mar 29, 2023 17:10:21 GMT
Is it not available on the app yet? I'm only seeing 1 & 2.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Mar 29, 2023 17:12:58 GMT
Is it not available on the app yet? I'm only seeing 1 & 2. I was able to view it in the Comixology app after I reloaded it.
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