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Post by Terminator Force on Mar 30, 2023 17:16:20 GMT
On ME3Tweaks under combat drone, is this message; "Contrary to the ingame description this is the max number of targets, not the additional number of targets. This does not affect the shock attack."
What does this mean exactly? That speccing into this rank is 100% waste or that it just increases max targest from 1 to 3?
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Post by Ash on Mar 30, 2023 19:49:45 GMT
wouldn't say its a complete waste. Stunning/argoing more than 1 target is still good. Might not be as good as advertised but still better than rockets from my experience.
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Post by BlackMage on Apr 2, 2023 10:08:42 GMT
cut-and-paste from my build notes FWIW
"Rank 6 has 6a Rockets and 6b Chain Lightning. 6a Rockets allow the Combat Drone to attack at range instead of moving towards the enemies. 6b Chain Lightning boosts the lightning attack to hit up to 3 (not 4, the in-game description is wrong) targets instead of 1. Remember that this lightning attack can stun. You do not need the Shock evo to stun. While 6a Rockets allow you to attack at range, it will also cause the Combat Drone to move away from enemies since rockets do not work at close range. This will negate Detonate, Shock and lightning attack since these are all close range attacks."
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 2, 2023 12:11:17 GMT
cut-and-paste from my build notes FWIW "Rank 6 has 6a Rockets and 6b Chain Lightning. 6a Rockets allow the Combat Drone to attack at range instead of moving towards the enemies. 6b Chain Lightning boosts the lightning attack to hit up to 3 (not 4, the in-game description is wrong) targets instead of 1. Remember that this lightning attack can stun. You do not need the Shock evo to stun. While 6a Rockets allow you to attack at range, it will also cause the Combat Drone to move away from enemies since rockets do not work at close range. This will negate Detonate, Shock and lightning attack since these are all close range attacks." Excellent answer. However that now raised the queston of should rank 5a shock dmg be specced into or do we automatically get it for free with rank 6b? Either way, a shocking drone being close range in the heat of fire may be more effective with the shield and dmg at rank 4 and 5?
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Post by Ash on Apr 3, 2023 2:13:13 GMT
Well I peronsally detonate, shock & chain lightning. Cooldown is fast so having a disposible drone is ok.
Shock does state that it deals 100 damage (at base wit nothing else spec'd) so I would assume that damage is also added to the multi-shock (will assume that Kalence2 devs will know more about that). Either way you might be looking at a better DPS with Detonate CQB.
Now, if cool down is a problem, like say... Volus Sentinel.... maybe rockets with sheilds and damage is the better choice.
I noticed on Kalence2 that the shock damage on rank 5 does increase with you use Shields & Damage on Rank 4. So I'd have to ask. What's the base damage of chain lightning and what affects it more? 5a or 5b?
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 3, 2023 7:47:50 GMT
Well, seems it means you have two attacks, the shock one and the chain ligthning one Combat Drone to move away from enemies since rockets do not work at close range. This will negate Detonate, Shock and lightning attack since these are all close range attacks." Either way, a shocking drone being close range in the heat of fire may be more effective with the shield and dmg at rank 4 and 5? If you dont take shock i kinda remember it doesnt attracts phantoms/goons attention regularly. i always shock so i dont remember how it goes without it
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 3, 2023 13:12:18 GMT
Well I peronsally detonate, shock & chain lightning. Cooldown is fast so having a disposible drone is ok. Shock does state that it deals 100 damage (at base wit nothing else spec'd) so I would assume that damage is also added to the multi-shock (will assume that Kalence2 devs will know more about that). Either way you might be looking at a better DPS with Detonate CQB. Now, if cool down is a problem, like say... Volus Sentinel.... maybe rockets with sheilds and damage is the better choice. I noticed on Kalence2 that the shock damage on rank 5 does increase with you use Shields & Damage on Rank 4. So I'd have to ask. What's the base damage of chain lightning and what affects it more? 5a or 5b? Good question.
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Post by BlackMage on Apr 4, 2023 5:01:09 GMT
... Shock does state that it deals 100 damage (at base wit nothing else spec'd) so I would assume that damage is also added to the multi-shock (will assume that Kalence2 devs will know more about that). Either way you might be looking at a better DPS with Detonate CQB ....
Don't think so. Shock is a separate attack mode from Chain Lightning IIRC.
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Post by TheNightSlasher on Apr 4, 2023 20:51:23 GMT
Well I peronsally detonate, shock & chain lightning. Cooldown is fast so having a disposible drone is ok. Shock does state that it deals 100 damage (at base wit nothing else spec'd) so I would assume that damage is also added to the multi-shock (will assume that Kalence2 devs will know more about that). Either way you might be looking at a better DPS with Detonate CQB. Now, if cool down is a problem, like say... Volus Sentinel.... maybe rockets with sheilds and damage is the better choice. I noticed on Kalence2 that the shock damage on rank 5 does increase with you use Shields & Damage on Rank 4. So I'd have to ask. What's the base damage of chain lightning and what affects it more? 5a or 5b? Chain lightning is just the drone shock but dealt to multiple targets. Its base damage is the same as the shock attack, and is boosted by 4A and 5B. That said, I think 4B is the superior evolution, and I don't take 5B as it conflicts with 4B. Shock is also boosted by base damage upgrade (so, shock does more damage with 4A)
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 5, 2023 7:21:58 GMT
Chain lightning is just the drone shock but dealt to multiple targets. Its base damage is the same as the shock attack, and is boosted by 4A and 5B. supposedly, shock is AoE and stunning. In fact it s monotarget and you need chain lightning to make it work on up to 3 target ?
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Post by Alfonsedode on Apr 5, 2023 7:55:43 GMT
and this : If you want to maximize use of the Shock attack, don't take Chain Lightning, they are competing modes of attack. Power buildWicked fun buildAre you sure? I always use shock + chain Lightning, as far as I can tell it works out pretty good. Yeah, CL does not have the stagger effect of Shock and IIRC, I did some testing a long time ago and the wiki is correct - they are different modes of attack. Besides, CL doubles in functionality with Overload, so I'd rather spent the points elsewhere. On a side note - isn't it hilarious how a Shock Drone renders an Atlas almost completely useless?
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 5, 2023 13:14:17 GMT
Chain lightning is just the drone shock but dealt to multiple targets. Its base damage is the same as the shock attack, and is boosted by 4A and 5B. supposedly, shock is AoE and stunning. In fact it s monotarget and you need chain lightning to make it work on up to 3 target ?
Also I see what you did there. I see it...
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 5, 2023 13:21:00 GMT
and this : If you want to maximize use of the Shock attack, don't take Chain Lightning, they are competing modes of attack. Power buildWicked fun buildYeah, CL does not have the stagger effect of Shock and IIRC, I did some testing a long time ago and the wiki is correct - they are different modes of attack. Besides, CL doubles in functionality with Overload, so I'd rather spent the points elsewhere. On a side note - isn't it hilarious how a Shock Drone renders an Atlas almost completely useless? Now this post provides the answers I'm looking for. Thank you. Now I'm curious about how a rank BBB or ABB and how (if any) effective that is? Otherwsie not speccing into the final rank may be the way to go. Who would have thought?
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