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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 3, 2023 23:52:39 GMT
Aren't we getting to the point where the content simply doesn't fit? Do people want to go back to the days of installing from several disks (as admittedly used to be the case)? Doesn't fit on what? CD's? So what? We're in a world with portable hard drives, I don't buy that they can't find anything with enough physical storage that can be plugged into any pc's usb port.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 4, 2023 1:51:14 GMT
Aren't we getting to the point where the content simply doesn't fit? Do people want to go back to the days of installing from several disks (as admittedly used to be the case)? Recently part of the reasoning for multiple disks recently was the XB1 for it could only handle disks up to 50GB, but the Series S/X can handle the 100GB disks and with developers starting to leave the older consoles behind there might be using the bigger disks in the near future. In the future if they still wanted to make it on disks they probably could just make disks that hold more data.
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Post by river82 on Jul 4, 2023 10:36:06 GMT
Aren't we getting to the point where the content simply doesn't fit? Do people want to go back to the days of installing from several disks (as admittedly used to be the case)? Recently part of the reasoning for multiple disks recently was the XB1 for it could only handle disks up to 50GB, but the Series S/X can handle the 100GB disks and with developers starting to leave the older consoles behind there might be using the bigger disks in the near future. In the future if they still wanted to make it on disks they probably could just make disks that hold more data. Sell us USB sticks with the game on it. It'd be like a pseudo cartridge
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 4, 2023 19:40:39 GMT
With 70% of global gaming sales being digital (Destructoid) and some territories even more so (90% digital in UK, Entertainment Retail Association), the question becomes less about whether a larger new common media format could be adopted (clearly it could), but whether game publishers have any interest in doing so (I suspect they don't). There's going to come a point (not so far away) when publishers will forego a handful of percentage points going to physical sales with a shrug and a 'go digital or don't play' attitude.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 4, 2023 19:50:22 GMT
With 70% of global gaming sales being digital (Destructoid) and some territories even more so (90% digital in UK, Entertainment Retail Association), the question becomes less about whether a larger new common media format could be adopted (clearly it could), but whether game publishers have any interest in doing so (I suspect they don't). There's going to come a point (not so far away) when publishers will forego a handful of percentage points going to physical sales with a shrug and a 'go digital or don't play' attitude. odd numbers since i was under the impression that the discless ps5 wasn't selling.
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Post by Iddy on Jul 4, 2023 20:17:34 GMT
I know this isn´t a topic for PC players The hell it isn't, I haven't been able to get a physical copy of a pc game in years and I'm pissed off about it. Owning a digital copy isn't owning, it's renting, they can take it away from me at any time, i want a physical copy that i can install from without needing any online storefront that will inevitably cease to exist or drop the game to save the company money. I get them valueing digital copies, they get more money without needing to make physical discs and ship them, but Jesus they could atleast have physical discs within the collectors editions, which are already filled with physical goods they're shipping out anyway. Digital is all very well when I'm trying out other games but for my favourites i want a physical copy dammit. [br And let us not forget: Consoles/PC don't have infinite memory, hence why it is essential to have the option to delete and re-install games whenever you feel like it.
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Post by river82 on Jul 4, 2023 22:03:55 GMT
With 70% of global gaming sales being digital (Destructoid) and some territories even more so (90% digital in UK, Entertainment Retail Association), the question becomes less about whether a larger new common media format could be adopted (clearly it could), but whether game publishers have any interest in doing so (I suspect they don't). There's going to come a point (not so far away) when publishers will forego a handful of percentage points going to physical sales with a shrug and a 'go digital or don't play' attitude. odd numbers since i was under the impression that the discless ps5 wasn't selling. It's not odd at all when you consider that figure counts BOTH mobile games, which are obviously all digital, and PC games which are almost all digital. Remove those 2 demographics from that figure and I'd wager most console sales are still physical copies, probably. Maybe. Console audiences are a bit different to both the PC and mobile audiences.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 4, 2023 22:09:27 GMT
odd numbers since i was under the impression that the discless ps5 wasn't selling. It's not odd at all when you consider that figure counts BOTH mobile games, which are obviously all digital, and PC games which are almost all digital. Remove those 2 demographics from that figure and I'd wager most console sales are still physical copies, probably. Maybe. Console audiences are a bit different to both the PC and mobile audiences. which is also the point publishers must take into account to.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 5, 2023 16:05:51 GMT
odd numbers since i was under the impression that the discless ps5 wasn't selling. It's not odd at all when you consider that figure counts BOTH mobile games, which are obviously all digital, and PC games which are almost all digital. Remove those 2 demographics from that figure and I'd wager most console sales are still physical copies, probably. Maybe. Console audiences are a bit different to both the PC and mobile audiences. I agree, I would like to see a better breakdown for that 90% sales number only for if I recall EA claimed that 70% of its sales was digital and that included things like DLC and mobile titles. The problem with digital only is that I think even in the US that a lot of people don't have the internet to properly support going all digital. Personally I was in an older part of the city I live in and it would take two days or more to download a game. Now that infrasture has been updated it only takes 45min, but for some people it isn't a realistic choice.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 6, 2023 10:25:21 GMT
odd numbers since i was under the impression that the discless ps5 wasn't selling. I have a diskless PS5. Can't think of a reason to buy a disk... I can see the need for some (bad internet, physical library) but that pool of people seems to be diminishing.
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Post by samurailink on Jul 18, 2023 13:39:08 GMT
At least with games not connected to any important servers (like Origins,2, or even MELE) when it comes a time where Steam/Origin/GOG try to remove it you'll be able to just pirate a version with all the DLC (guilt free) so I'm less concerned about physical for PC. But Inquisition without the Keep is stuck in one world state.
Console players are doubley screwed once the console store goes down no access to new games for you, at least with a disk you'd have the basegame, Origins Ultimate Edition's disc means even now I can lend a friend the game and all the DLC (except return to ostagar, nice one EA) without any server needed. Discs are future proofing, which we can see recently is not something game companies care about.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 18, 2023 15:42:42 GMT
But Inquisition without the Keep is stuck in one world state. Surely that was the same for DA2 if you didn't connect to the Internet? Although come to think of it, I was able to carry over my world states from BG1 to BG2 without logging on-line, which I think was achieved by being given a facility to manually copy over the final saved file from the previous game. In any case, I would settle for just a default world state in order to play entirely off my own disc. As you say, having the base game is better than nothing if the server is no longer supporting the game.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Jul 18, 2023 18:19:10 GMT
Surely that was the same for DA2 if you didn't connect to the Internet?
Is that a PC issue? Console versions simply import the Origins or Awakening save file (of your choice) from the hard drive.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on Jul 18, 2023 18:19:57 GMT
Dragon Age II unlike Dragon Age Inquisition supported save importing.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 19, 2023 0:31:08 GMT
Dragon Age II unlike Dragon Age Inquisition supported save importing. Yeah, but badly. Lot of import mistakes between dao and da2. The mass effect trilogy had problems too. I hope they make an offline application version of the keep when they retire the site, but for future games perhaps they should just give you the option of setting the world state, or taking the default, in the game itself when you click New Game. Then there's no need to pay for an internet server and no need for a buggy import system.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 19, 2023 3:42:08 GMT
If the Keep ever does go away, it will only take a few days before someone figures out a way to spoof DAI and DA:DW. Don't sweat it.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 19, 2023 7:42:27 GMT
Is that a PC issue? Console versions simply import the Origins or Awakening save file (of your choice) from the hard drive. You are probably correct. It is a while since I played it but thinking about it, perhaps that is what happened. In which case, that was definitely changed in DAI because of the Keep. On the face of it, that was better because of the bugs that cropped up with copying over world states from DA2 (not recognising my Zevran romance is the one that immediately springs to mind) but it did mean you had to be able to log on to the Keep to get your world state. Incidentally, the Keep had its issues with how it recorded your world state from DAI. On finishing my Dorian romance run through, I discovered it hadn't recorded this correctly in that world state so I had to do this manually, although I think they may have fixed the problem causing this now. I have also previously noted how saying you did not support Anders in the Keep (because it showed an exploding Chantry so I thought it referred to that) made it sound as though my Hawke thought fighting for mage freedom was a hopeless endeavour in the dialogue. I supported his aim, just not his method of achieving it. So, I tried changing it in the Keep and got dialogue that more closely reflected my sentiments. This has made me wary of how decisions recorded in the Keep for DAI may be translated into dialogue in DA:D. I am particularly thinking about that decision over Solas in Trespasser and the way it is phrased in the Keep, together with other aspects of our relationship to him in the main game. There are so many permutations of how the Inquisitor may have viewed him that I hope it isn't simply reduced down to love/like him = saving Solas takes precedence in their thinking, hate = putting the world and its inhabitants first.
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