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Post by Shinobu on Nov 9, 2023 1:14:08 GMT
There are definitely Hanar, Turians, Salarians, Volus, Krogan, Asari, one Geth and one Angara in the club. I don't think I see Quarians, although I might not recognize them if they no longer wear helmets.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 9, 2023 2:23:01 GMT
They missed putting in the best alien of all.... a prothean. Javik the Great was awesome in ME3.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 9, 2023 3:02:29 GMT
They missed putting in the best alien of all.... a prothean. Javik the Great was awesome in ME3. There isn't room in the galaxy for TWO Protheans.
I'm also not seeing Drell, Elcor, or Batarians.
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 9, 2023 12:10:37 GMT
No quarians. While we wouldn't know for sure how quarians look without their helmets, they still have distinct three-fingers hands and digitigrade legs.
All humanoid characters have five fingers and/or very clearly looking human legs.
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 10, 2023 3:06:57 GMT
No quarians. While we wouldn't know for sure how quarians look without their helmets, they still have distinct three-fingers hands and digitigrade legs. All humanoid characters have five fingers and/or very clearly looking human legs. Yes, I didn't see any obvious Quarian silhouettes. They are plantigrade, like humans, but their shin bones are curved backward, giving them an odd shape.
The Quarians were missing from Andromeda as their ark didn't arrive, but it also held the volus and we see a volus here, so this club is probably not in Andromeda, I'm thinking.
Someone pointed out the jellyfish in the corner looks like Omega, and we've already seen a picture of an asari city with omega symbols on it, so this club could be on Omega. I'm calling it Tartarus.
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Post by Croatsky on Nov 10, 2023 9:58:06 GMT
Too shiny for Omega's Afterlife.
I think it's more new nightclub inspired by Afterlife and Purgatory.
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Post by trinity0 on Nov 10, 2023 10:58:14 GMT
Is it possible that this is a Quarian?
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2023 16:12:55 GMT
Is it possible that this is a Quarian?
I think so. Helmet resembles a quarians
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Post by lavigne on Nov 10, 2023 16:22:03 GMT
Is it possible that this is a Quarian?
I think so. Helmet resembles a quarians Galactic civilization exists - Rules out refuse ending Geth exist - Rules out destroy ending Quarians exist and still in suits - Rules out synthesis ending (surely they wouldn't still need their suits 600 years after synthesis?!) Control ending canonized and Shepard still exists and controls the Reapers therefore you have your "What happened to Shepard" question answered.....!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 10, 2023 16:32:45 GMT
I think so. Helmet resembles a quarians Galactic civilization exists - Rules out refuse ending Geth exist - Rules out destroy ending Quarians exist and still in suits - Rules out synthesis ending (surely they wouldn't still need their suits 600 years after synthesis?!) Control ending canonized and Shepard still exists and controls the Reapers therefore you have your "What happened to Shepard" question answered.....! Wouldn't use Quarians still in their suits as evidence for anything. Remember Tali did say that they might still wear them because of how the suits have become part of their culture.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2023 16:36:52 GMT
I think so. Helmet resembles a quarians Galactic civilization exists - Rules out refuse ending Geth exist - Rules out destroy ending Quarians exist and still in suits - Rules out synthesis ending (surely they wouldn't still need their suits 600 years after synthesis?!) Control ending canonized and Shepard still exists and controls the Reapers therefore you have your "What happened to Shepard" question answered.....! Well I've this before when the first teaser dropped. Destroy/control ending might be both canon. Here we have blue and red colors (control, destroy and also paragon and renegade with the symbol looking exactly the same as both of these choices. I'm not so sure if both of those endings are gonna be canon though). All three endings might be in since 600 years have passed which is a long time but idk... Some geth may have fled to Andromeda before the reaper war. Probably what that ark 6 is for? So some will still be alive.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Nov 10, 2023 16:39:02 GMT
Galactic civilization exists - Rules out refuse ending Geth exist - Rules out destroy ending Quarians exist and still in suits - Rules out synthesis ending (surely they wouldn't still need their suits 600 years after synthesis?!) Control ending canonized and Shepard still exists and controls the Reapers therefore you have your "What happened to Shepard" question answered.....! Wouldn't use Quarians still in their suits as evidence for anything. Remember Tali did say that they might still wear them because of how the suits have become part of their culture. Now that we're talking about quarians having suits or not, i think there's some without them, on the left where they're standing at the bar.
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Post by lavigne on Nov 10, 2023 17:05:10 GMT
Galactic civilization exists - Rules out refuse ending Geth exist - Rules out destroy ending Quarians exist and still in suits - Rules out synthesis ending (surely they wouldn't still need their suits 600 years after synthesis?!) Control ending canonized and Shepard still exists and controls the Reapers therefore you have your "What happened to Shepard" question answered.....! Wouldn't use Quarians still in their suits as evidence for anything. Remember Tali did say that they might still wear them because of how the suits have become part of their culture. Galactic civilization exists - Rules out refuse ending Geth exist - Rules out destroy ending Quarians exist and still in suits - Rules out synthesis ending (surely they wouldn't still need their suits 600 years after synthesis?!) Control ending canonized and Shepard still exists and controls the Reapers therefore you have your "What happened to Shepard" question answered.....! Well I've this before when the first teaser dropped. Destroy/control ending might be both canon. Here we have blue and red colors (control, destroy and also paragon and renegade with the symbol looking exactly the same as both of these choices. I'm not so sure if both of those endings are gonna be canon though). All three endings might be in since 600 years have passed which is a long time but idk... Some geth may have fled to Andromeda before the reaper war. Probably what that ark 6 is for? So some will still be alive. I was only being semi-serious I think the most likely route is some sort of vague/generic explanation as to why whatever choice was selected things turned out the same and essentially reset after a period of time, such that we end up with a blended future state that negates none of the selections (bar refuse obviously). I still think that would suck personally, I'd rather they just picked an ending, went with it and then built the next game out from that choice, but I doubt they'd do it.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 10, 2023 17:25:28 GMT
Wouldn't use Quarians still in their suits as evidence for anything. Remember Tali did say that they might still wear them because of how the suits have become part of their culture. Well I've this before when the first teaser dropped. Destroy/control ending might be both canon. Here we have blue and red colors (control, destroy and also paragon and renegade with the symbol looking exactly the same as both of these choices. I'm not so sure if both of those endings are gonna be canon though). All three endings might be in since 600 years have passed which is a long time but idk... Some geth may have fled to Andromeda before the reaper war. Probably what that ark 6 is for? So some will still be alive. I was only being semi-serious I think the most likely route is some sort of vague/generic explanation as to why whatever choice was selected things turned out the same and essentially reset after a period of time, such that we end up with a blended future state that negates none of the selections (bar refuse obviously). I still think that would suck personally, I'd rather they just picked an ending, went with it and then built the next game out from that choice, but I doubt they'd do it. I can see that. Like either Synthesis or “as centuries past now almost everyone is integrated with machines” or something. Reapers are either dead or left after repairing the galaxy. Geth either alive or had some outside the blast radius. And so on. Really the harder choices are the ones not in the ending, like the Genophage or the Geth/Quarian War. Not a huge fan of merging them like that either, but the alternative would almost certainly be Destroy as canon so I’ll take them not making my Shepard commit the largest genocide in our cycle’s history.
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Post by lavigne on Nov 10, 2023 17:41:14 GMT
I was only being semi-serious I think the most likely route is some sort of vague/generic explanation as to why whatever choice was selected things turned out the same and essentially reset after a period of time, such that we end up with a blended future state that negates none of the selections (bar refuse obviously). I still think that would suck personally, I'd rather they just picked an ending, went with it and then built the next game out from that choice, but I doubt they'd do it. I can see that. Like either Synthesis or “as centuries past now almost everyone is integrated with machines” or something. Reapers are either dead or left after repairing the galaxy. Geth either alive or had some outside the blast radius. And so on. Really the harder choices are the ones not in the ending, like the Genophage or the Geth/Quarian War. Not a huge fan of merging them like that either, but the alternative would almost certainly be Destroy as canon so I’ll take them not making my Shepard commit the largest genocide in our cycle’s history. I would imagine curing the Genophage would be a no-brainer. I can't remember the stats from the infomatic that BW produced but I think it was very heavily slanted towards people curing rather than not. The Quarians/Geth - they'd probably want both races around so canonize brokering peace. You're still invalidating some choices but I'd imagine those players would be in the minority. I think realistically you'd have to do it, trying to build a story going forward where both choices are catered for would be nigh-on impossible to achieve. Not without relegating both races to footnotes only.
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Post by SwobyJ on Nov 10, 2023 20:06:32 GMT
They don't *have to* canonize a thing here, theoretically.
Centuries pass and many things happen off-screen. And we only need to meet characters, not whole population clusters. Its an RPG with select experiences from a protagonist perspective.
Geth live but Quarians die - Enough Quarian survivors exist that few remain scattered in the galaxy. Andromeda linking with the Milky Way means the Quarian Ark survivors meet with the MW surviving population and they retain growth numbers. No longer a migrant fleet, they remain a minority of the galaxy.
Quarians live but Geth die - Geth are at least near extinguished in the Milky Way, but both quiet attempts to rebuild them and the linking up with Andromeda means that a new form of Geth develop regardless of choices. Whether distinguished allies of the Reaper War or an AI race the galaxy is growing accustomed to, they remain a minority of the galaxy.
Peace between Quarians and Geth - No problem, they're both here. Perhaps to flatten the possible consequences, Rannoch could stuffer a disaster that keeps a level of sadness and angst no matter the choices made, so the Geth and Quarians are always without a central home, except they're also much more welcome in the Milky Way society. If we don't go to Rannoch, anything can easily be written about what happens there.
In all outcomes, each race at this point in the timeline (I'm really spitballing here) is doing better than during the trilogy. The Geth are in some form that cooperates better with organics (there may be narrative carveouts for more complexity that might allow Geth enemies, if we're really going there again). The Quarians are no longer the roaming scavenging band that is generally unwelcome. They're not willing to just let bygones be bygones, but the environment is one of at least tolerance in the present day of the next game.
Similar matter can happen with Krogan. Their supposed potential mega Krogan Empire post-ME3 can be made rather short lived, but their potential extinction was averted by MEA events. NPCs can be written to reflect a 2-3+ main outcomes, noting any smaller details, and then the game after this one doesn't have to bother with caring about your choices for the most part.
Our choices can have the consequence that in our Milky Way Galaxy, one race or another can have a tougher or nicer go of things, in the span of up to centuries, but other things happen to, and world states centralize into something that a game can be made out of. If you want the Quarians to maximally pay, go get them killed on ME3 Rannoch, acknowledge that some got out in a multispecies Ark to Andromeda (or quit the series here I guess), and understand that ME3 Rannoch events didn't mean that absolutely every Quarian died but that they lost all the population and resources to hope for any kind of resurgence or maybe even longer term survival as a people within say, Tali's lifetime, but there could still be scattered families and then communities that then link up with Andromeda's population. Let time pass and have the Quarians supported by the galactic community and not hellebent on Rannoch, and their population could recover, but not in the same exact culture of ME3's.
Again, obviously, super theoretical.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 10, 2023 21:44:08 GMT
ah yes, choices. If the teaser nearly 3 years ago is to be believed, it appears destroy is the ending and it shows t'soni even though she can be killed in ME3
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Post by lavigne on Nov 10, 2023 21:54:36 GMT
Some things will have to be canonized. Liara being one. A rejection of the refusal option being another. There'll probably be more.
The Geth vs Quarians, yes you could write your way out of that one, but you need to be extremely clever in doing it, otherwise it'll render the initial choice about as disingenuous as canonizing an outcome would do anyway.
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Post by hulluliini on Nov 11, 2023 11:30:31 GMT
ah yes, choices. If the teaser nearly 3 years ago is to be believed, it appears destroy is the ending and it shows t'soni even though she can be killed in ME3 Maybe those dead reapers were actually controlled reapers who decided to go to that planet for mass suicide once their job of rebuilding was completed. Or Shep ordered them to shut down.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 11, 2023 12:41:52 GMT
ah yes, choices. If the teaser nearly 3 years ago is to be believed, it appears destroy is the ending and it shows t'soni even though she can be killed in ME3 Maybe those dead reapers were actually controlled reapers who decided to go to that planet for mass suicide once their job of rebuilding was completed. Or Shep ordered them to shut down. Maybe, but if my Shepard chose control, the reapers would have flown into the sun instead of what you posted.
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Post by lavigne on Nov 11, 2023 13:33:30 GMT
Maybe those dead reapers were actually controlled reapers who decided to go to that planet for mass suicide once their job of rebuilding was completed. Or Shep ordered them to shut down. Maybe, but if my Shepard chose control, the reapers would have flown into the sun instead of what you posted. Well I chose destroy, so those are definitely dead Reapers, that I killed, in my canon.....
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Post by Shinobu on Nov 11, 2023 17:59:58 GMT
I'm joking here, but this could be a masked Quarian next to the Angara.
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Post by quarianmasterrace on Nov 13, 2023 15:26:52 GMT
Biower would be foolish to leave us out again.
They know what our absence did to their last shitty game.
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Post by lavigne on Nov 13, 2023 16:28:18 GMT
I'm joking here, but this could be a masked Quarian next to the Angara. Not the first person I've seen suggesting that.... Biower would be foolish to leave us out again. They know what our absence did to their last shitty game. Does seem a bit mental in retrospect. Of course it might have worked if they''d turned up in a kick ass DLC, but seeing as we never got that..... The only reasons that I could think of for why the Quarians (seemingly) aren't in the poster, are 1) They're canonizing that the Geth won and the Quarians lost, which I find incredibly unlikely, or 2) It's part of them being coy with where exactly that poster is set (MW or AND) - but weren't the Volus on the same ark as the Quarians? So if it's AND and the Volus are there then so would the Quarians....
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Post by Sandetiger on Nov 14, 2023 5:12:43 GMT
There's speculation that the really buff salarian guy might actually be Lysenthi.
Edit: ignore the below, I was really sleep deprived and clicked on the Fanon wiki link by accident.
"Biologically the Lystheni are hardly any different from mainstream Salarians, they live much longer lives, and are considerably stronger. Their biological differences are the result of separation and genetic modification.
Natural separation from the mainstream Salarians resulted in hardier physiques because of the sub-arctic waters, more durable eggs, with shorter gestation time. Their skin is thicker, and they are more capable of accumulating weight.
The genetic modifications are not omnipresent in the peoples, but the modifications have resulted in greater genetic diversity amongst the Lystheni. The revised genetics were modeled after Krogan genetic material, this resulted in increased strength, longer lifespans, and an increase in aggression. There are negative side effects, there is a high rate of arthritis and lung disease amongst the Lystheni.
No actual Krogan DNA is present in the Lystheni, the Salarian DNA was modified using Krogan genetic logic. It was not a perfect process, and on occasion eggs are born with hard shells like Krogan eggs. The result of a hard-shelled egg is a child that dehydrates, and a mother who will no longer be able to have children."
And then the bipedal alien at the barn on the left side of the artwork that looks vaguely like a turian might actually be a raloi.
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