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Me and hubby like Hamilton and I'm currently reading Judas Unchained. This is cool.
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Post by jrpN7 on Feb 2, 2024 4:01:29 GMT
Eh, I view this forum and the folks who inhabit it to be among the most cynical of gamers. I watched the Exodus trailers and mostly enjoyed them. Got me reading the official website and now has me fairly curious about the setting. Will possibly even check out that book series.
Very few games have captivated my attention after Andromeda- Baldur's Gate 3 being an exception. So I'm just happy something has me at least intrigued.
Then again, Starfield had me very interested until more content was shown couple of months prior to release. Companions, factions, characters, and story came off as incredibly dull and now with overwhelming content to view, nothing manages to spark my interest. So hopefully Exodus isn't just another endless empty void masked in an explorative sci-fi "experience" devoid of meaningful and complex storytelling.
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Post by hulluliini on Feb 6, 2024 9:05:29 GMT
Eh, I view this forum and the folks who inhabit it to be among the most cynical of gamers. [...] So hopefully Exodus isn't just another endless empty void masked in an explorative sci-fi "experience" devoid of meaningful and complex storytelling. Isn't this kind of cynical?
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Post by Cyberstrike on Feb 15, 2024 23:41:31 GMT
Eh, I view this forum and the folks who inhabit it to be among the most cynical of gamers. [...] So hopefully Exodus isn't just another endless empty void masked in an explorative sci-fi "experience" devoid of meaningful and complex storytelling. Isn't this kind of cynical?
Considering the owners of Archetype Studios is Hasbro that is actually kind of optimistic. Given how many companies they bought and destroyed over the years (seriously if you think EA's graveyard is full Hasbro owns overs 70% of the toys and table top/board/card games in the US) and Hasbro has absolutely NO problem of shutting a project, toy line, or even a subsidiary company down that fails to meet their expectations.
Now Hasbro has shown at least with some of their major properties namely The Transformers, Power Rangers, G.I. Joe, and Jem and the Holograms a willingness to experiment and occasional try new things in comics, novels, and TV shows. But only for so long and as long as it makes money for them.
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Post by smilesja on Feb 16, 2024 1:35:20 GMT
Exodus won't kill it, because Andromeda already did. Yet there's still excitement by the fanbase for the next Mass Effect. Sorry you felt that the Mass Effect franchise is dead but I'm looking forward to the next game.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Feb 20, 2024 7:05:52 GMT
Andromeda didn’t kill Mass Effect.
BioWare firing all but three of its core writers killed Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Anything new will be fanfiction.
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Post by Spectr61 on Feb 22, 2024 15:33:23 GMT
MEA was just the stillborn product from those responsible.
Looks at Hudson and Walters....
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 11, 2024 19:46:20 GMT
Something about Exodus doesn't feel right to me. I don't know what but it feels...off.
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Post by Nicottia on Mar 14, 2024 12:38:01 GMT
I think Exodus' trailers hit a bit too much in the uncanny valley for me. The characters' facial and body proportions seem a little bit... weird to me. But aside from that, I really enjoyed the trailers. Will it be a ME killer? Eh, I don't know. Time will tell.
At this point though, I think that the only thing that can kill ME is Bioware itself, for it's admittedly a shell of what it once was.
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Post by JiM on Mar 18, 2024 16:18:00 GMT
Mass Effect is Casey Hudson and I'm gonna play Casey Hudson's next game like it's the new Mass Effect and forget anything outside of the trilogy has anything to do with his vision of that fantastic universe.
EA can buy Graceland, they can themselves Elvis, but they'll never be Elvis. Elvis has left the building.
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Post by Sandetiger on Mar 18, 2024 18:16:46 GMT
Andromeda didn’t kill Mass Effect. BioWare firing all but three of its core writers killed Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Anything new will be fanfiction. Weren't ME and DA essentially fanfiction of Star Wars and the D&D setting? lol
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 19, 2024 11:52:25 GMT
Andromeda didn’t kill Mass Effect. BioWare firing all but three of its core writers killed Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Anything new will be fanfiction. Weren't ME and DA essentially fanfiction of Star Wars and the D&D setting? lol I wouldn't say fanfiction, but they were a replacement for much the same reason why EA is saying that they are going to be cutting back on licensed content.
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Post by Sanunes on Mar 19, 2024 12:02:43 GMT
Mass Effect is Casey Hudson and I'm gonna play Casey Hudson's next game like it's the new Mass Effect and forget anything outside of the trilogy has anything to do with his vision of that fantastic universe.
EA can buy Graceland, they can themselves Elvis, but they'll never be Elvis. Elvis has left the building.
I hope you get the game you want, but too many times I have seen games from the people that made something in the past for it to be a disappointment now. See a game like Calisto Protocol where like this case it was from the guy that made Dead Space and it was a lot from his imagination and that is why Calisto Protocol felt much like Dead Space. In the end it was a big disappointment and I take the same approach I take with any game for I will wait and see and make my determination when I see the final product. It is the same thing with Exodus too, just getting big hopes based on the fact these people worked with others to make a game you like doesn't mean it will be good.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Mar 27, 2024 3:59:33 GMT
Andromeda didn’t kill Mass Effect. BioWare firing all but three of its core writers killed Mass Effect and Dragon Age. Anything new will be fanfiction. Weren't ME and DA essentially fanfiction of Star Wars and the D&D setting? lol No, I don't think so. Nor was Jade Empire. ME started out as much harder sci-fi before it turned to soap operatic fan service in ME3, and then a few more spurts of that as Andromeda. Furthermore, Star Wars wasn't the guiding influence; as far as cinematic precursors they were influenced much more by 80s sci-fi films like Blade Runner. (They've talked about this.)
Thedas is an extremely different setting from the Forgotten Realms.
They serve a similar purpose, in that one is a space setting and one is a fantasy setting, but they had quite a lot of lore developed for them. But yeah this went out the window during the production of the original ME trilogy, once the lore guy (L'Etoile) left after completing ME2 and they never bothered about worldbuilding again.
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Post by Sandetiger on Mar 27, 2024 15:30:00 GMT
Weren't ME and DA essentially fanfiction of Star Wars and the D&D setting? lol No, I don't think so. Nor was Jade Empire. ME started out as much harder sci-fi before it turned to soap operatic fan service in ME3, and then a few more spurts of that as Andromeda. Furthermore, Star Wars wasn't the guiding influence; as far as cinematic precursors they were influenced much more by 80s sci-fi films like Blade Runner. (They've talked about this.)
Thedas is an extremely different setting from the Forgotten Realms.
They serve a similar purpose, in that one is a space setting and one is a fantasy setting, but they had quite a lot of lore developed for them. But yeah this went out the window during the production of the original ME trilogy, once the lore guy (L'Etoile) left after completing ME2 and they never bothered about worldbuilding again.
I mean, Dragon Age was literally meant to be the original fantasy IP that replaced Baldur's Gate for BioWare. If you've read anything about how they developed the setting in DA, much of it is directly a response to the D&D setting and the Things TM that bothered them about the Forgotten Realms. They also pulled directly from ASOIAF in developing DA:O, although they have since moved on from the grimdark into more of an epic high fantasy. Mass Effect was literally meant to be the original sci-fi IP that replaced KOTOR for BioWare. Same deal. Pulled a lot from their work on KOTOR, but played the "what if" game and borrowed from other sci-fi IPs and elements to make what they wanted to see. Of course Blade Runner and more specifically Syd Mead were a key visual influence, and Vangelis' music was a guiding star for at least ME1's soundtrack. Also pulled from Starflight, Star Control, Farscape, H.P. Lovecraft, Firefly, Star Trek, Hellboy, and more. ME seems to have pulled a lot from KOTOR's design philosophy, both in what to do and what not to do, and I don't think we can discount that. There's a pretty clear intent in these things that I don't think can be argued against with any kind of rigour. A lot of really good and/or classic stories are in some way, shape, or form derivatives of other works, drawing clear inspiration, story elements, character archetypes, etc, etc, etc, from other creators. The enormous body of Shakespeare literature, Dante's Inferno, some of Charlotte Bronte's work, and more. DA and ME imo very clearly utilize pastiche in their art direction and narrative design, and put their own spin on it, but these precursors exist nevertheless. While I said 'fanfiction' tongue in cheek, I'm quite serious that these IPs are derived from other stories -- and, given the popularity of both, that's not inherently a bad thing.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 29, 2024 0:20:31 GMT
No, I don't think so. Nor was Jade Empire. ME started out as much harder sci-fi before it turned to soap operatic fan service in ME3, and then a few more spurts of that as Andromeda. Furthermore, Star Wars wasn't the guiding influence; as far as cinematic precursors they were influenced much more by 80s sci-fi films like Blade Runner. (They've talked about this.)
Thedas is an extremely different setting from the Forgotten Realms.
They serve a similar purpose, in that one is a space setting and one is a fantasy setting, but they had quite a lot of lore developed for them. But yeah this went out the window during the production of the original ME trilogy, once the lore guy (L'Etoile) left after completing ME2 and they never bothered about worldbuilding again.
I mean, Dragon Age was literally meant to be the original fantasy IP that replaced Baldur's Gate for BioWare. If you've read anything about how they developed the setting in DA, much of it is directly a response to the D&D setting and the Things TM that bothered them about the Forgotten Realms. They also pulled directly from ASOIAF in developing DA:O, although they have since moved on from the grimdark into more of an epic high fantasy. Mass Effect was literally meant to be the original sci-fi IP that replaced KOTOR for BioWare. Same deal. Pulled a lot from their work on KOTOR, but played the "what if" game and borrowed from other sci-fi IPs and elements to make what they wanted to see. Of course Blade Runner and more specifically Syd Mead were a key visual influence, and Vangelis' music was a guiding star for at least ME1's soundtrack. Also pulled from Starflight, Star Control, Farscape, H.P. Lovecraft, Firefly, Star Trek, Hellboy, and more. ME seems to have pulled a lot from KOTOR's design philosophy, both in what to do and what not to do, and I don't think we can discount that. There's a pretty clear intent in these things that I don't think can be argued against with any kind of rigour. A lot of really good and/or classic stories are in some way, shape, or form derivatives of other works, drawing clear inspiration, story elements, character archetypes, etc, etc, etc, from other creators. The enormous body of Shakespeare literature, Dante's Inferno, some of Charlotte Bronte's work, and more. DA and ME imo very clearly utilize pastiche in their art direction and narrative design, and put their own spin on it, but these precursors exist nevertheless. While I said 'fanfiction' tongue in cheek, I'm quite serious that these IPs are derived from other stories -- and, given the popularity of both, that's not inherently a bad thing. Fantasy game does not = D&D and sci-fi does not = star wars.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 29, 2024 14:35:12 GMT
My concern is that Exodus won't meet Hasbro/WotC sales expectations and well let's just say if you think EA is well known for killing studios they've bought, Hasbro is LEGENDARY, and they have no problem of closing down a company that fails to meet sales expectations.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Mar 29, 2024 14:47:01 GMT
Mass Effect is Casey Hudson and I'm gonna play Casey Hudson's next game like it's the new Mass Effect and forget anything outside of the trilogy has anything to do with his vision of that fantastic universe.
EA can buy Graceland, they can themselves Elvis, but they'll never be Elvis. Elvis has left the building.
I don't agree with everything in every video that Kala Elizabeth has made but she is 100% right in this case. Casey Hudson is NOT the sole creator of Mass Effect hell he's a co-creator with 5-7 others at best.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 31, 2024 11:13:34 GMT
Awesome trailer. I admit. It moved me. However, the trailer reminds me of the very first Anthem one. Promised much, delivered meh.... aside from graphics. Also reminds me of Star Citizen... that never ending development work, years after the pitch from Chris Roberts.
Excited I'm not... too jaded I guess. But, I like the premise and has super potential. Space fighter combat is probably not in the cards... though I really like the Wing Commander series. Fell in love with it way baaaack in the 70s.
Becoming an Exodus founder is interesting... but I'll wait for now. Besides, as a Founder you only get bragging rights. The extras aren't much.
And no, It's not a ME killer.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 3, 2024 4:56:50 GMT
My concern is that Exodus won't meet Hasbro/WotC sales expectations and well let's just say if you think EA is well known for killing studios they've bought, Hasbro is LEGENDARY, and they have no problem of closing down a company that fails to meet sales expectations. At least EA generally keeps studios until they release the game they are working on if they have been having issues. With Hasbro there is a good chance the studio might even close before launch.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 3, 2024 5:05:37 GMT
Mass Effect is Casey Hudson and I'm gonna play Casey Hudson's next game like it's the new Mass Effect and forget anything outside of the trilogy has anything to do with his vision of that fantastic universe.
EA can buy Graceland, they can themselves Elvis, but they'll never be Elvis. Elvis has left the building.
I don't agree with everything in every video that Kala Elizabeth has made but she is 100% right in this case. Casey Hudson is NOT the sole creator of Mass Effect hell he's a co-creator with 5-7 others at best. I think Nightingale has proven to me my skepticism about how people get hyped up about a couple of people from a large team going to work on something new doesn't mean it is going to be good or not have the same faults of the prior games. I know "Gaming News" likes pointing out when a former BioWare developer goes to work at a different studio or creating there own, it doesn't mean it will work out. I personally don't think I have found a game marketed to be from a former BioWare developer to have caught my interest like a BioWare game.
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Post by ergates on Apr 5, 2024 12:04:00 GMT
I'm going to go with an absolutely radical concept here - this one will knock your socks off...
I'm going to wait until solid details about ME:5 are released before making any judgement on it because all we have to go on right now is a title, and a few ambiguous stills from a promo, and that is no basis upon which to judge a videogame.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Apr 5, 2024 16:14:02 GMT
My concern is that Exodus won't meet Hasbro/WotC sales expectations and well let's just say if you think EA is well known for killing studios they've bought, Hasbro is LEGENDARY, and they have no problem of closing down a company that fails to meet sales expectations. At least EA generally keeps studios until they release the game they are working on if they have been having issues. With Hasbro there is a good chance the studio might even close before launch. Given that Hasbro has had some serious money problems they might cancel the game and close down Archetype Studios. I don't feel the hype that a game like Exodus should have in regard to other games like Starfield, Baldur's Gate III, Cyberpunk 2077, Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth, and other games, or even some indy darlings. I want to like or be excited about this game but for some reason I can't understand, I am not liking or excited for it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 7, 2024 19:08:34 GMT
Since I haven't been on these boards in forever, I'm just now seeing this stuff. When I think of Exodus I think of the expectations for MEA. I think of the expectations for Cyberpunk 2077 - after all, it was from the people who brought us The Witcher so it was going to be The Best Thing Ever. I think of what so many people though about Starfield, which we all thought was going to be Fallout/Elder Scrolls in Space. I think of them all falling flat. I'll believe Exodus is a better game when I see it.
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Post by Little Bengel on Apr 7, 2024 19:54:22 GMT
I can't speak for the others, but I personally am not expecting the Best Thing EverTM.
As long as I get something I can have fun with, I'm A-OK.
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