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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Apr 10, 2024 2:44:06 GMT
Bah none of them have been to the "villa" and gotten the coveted N7 designation so i fail to see any Mass Effect slaying any time soon.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 11, 2024 22:08:32 GMT
I can't speak for the others, but I personally am not expecting the Best Thing Ever TM. As long as I get something I can have fun with, I'm A-OK. That is all I want as well. I will say though, the trailer did not excite me nearly as much as the OG trailer for Mass Effect 1 did. Not sure if its because its worse or I am just more jaded in my old age. But Exodus did not really grab me with their announcement trailer. I hope I am pleasantly surprised and its a fun game.
It wasn't a bad trailer, it was decent. But it didn't excite me in any way. Every launch trailer for Mass Effect was bad ass and got me pumped to get the game. Even the stuff for ME4?5?,sparkle wonderland? whatever they call it got some excitement going. Only thing holding it back was biowares recent track record. DAI and MEA, i don't really count Anthem against them like I don't count FO-76agaianst bethesda. In both cases it seemed like a corporate decision to force them to make a game they really did not want to make. And while I had fun in both DAI and MEA they were not good enough to get me excited for a next game, very meh. But meh can still have fun game play.
Thing is, if your launch trailer does not excite me it makes me wonder if you can excite me with the actual game. I wont say its some one to one comparison, but if you can't land the story telling in the trailer to excite me why should i believe you can land the story telling in the game.
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 12, 2024 16:48:43 GMT
I can't speak for the others, but I personally am not expecting the Best Thing Ever TM. As long as I get something I can have fun with, I'm A-OK. That is all I want as well. I will say though, the trailer did not excite me nearly as much as the OG trailer for Mass Effect 1 did. Not sure if its because its worse or I am just more jaded in my old age. But Exodus did not really grab me with their announcement trailer. I hope I am pleasantly surprised and its a fun game.
It wasn't a bad trailer, it was decent. But it didn't excite me in any way. Every launch trailer for Mass Effect was bad ass and got me pumped to get the game. Even the stuff for ME4?5?,sparkle wonderland? whatever they call it got some excitement going. Only thing holding it back was biowares recent track record. DAI and MEA, i don't really count Anthem against them like I don't count FO-76agaianst bethesda. In both cases it seemed like a corporate decision to force them to make a game they really did not want to make. And while I had fun in both DAI and MEA they were not good enough to get me excited for a next game, very meh. But meh can still have fun game play.
Thing is, if your launch trailer does not excite me it makes me wonder if you can excite me with the actual game. I wont say its some one to one comparison, but if you can't land the story telling in the trailer to excite me why should i believe you can land the story telling in the game.
I believe that trailers and such are designed from a different point of view than the era of the Xbox or PS2. At the same time there could be less information available to put into trailers as well aside from the high level knowledge of the game. I normally don't pay much attention to trailers anymore because they just all feel the same. It feels much like this for the blockbuster movie trailer.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 12, 2024 17:32:15 GMT
Exodus looks good. What has me interested is the guy using the gate, time for him days passed, while a lifetime for everyone else. It will be interesting to see how choices will play a role in the game.
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Post by ahglock on Apr 12, 2024 21:06:19 GMT
That is all I want as well. I will say though, the trailer did not excite me nearly as much as the OG trailer for Mass Effect 1 did. Not sure if its because its worse or I am just more jaded in my old age. But Exodus did not really grab me with their announcement trailer. I hope I am pleasantly surprised and its a fun game.
It wasn't a bad trailer, it was decent. But it didn't excite me in any way. Every launch trailer for Mass Effect was bad ass and got me pumped to get the game. Even the stuff for ME4?5?,sparkle wonderland? whatever they call it got some excitement going. Only thing holding it back was biowares recent track record. DAI and MEA, i don't really count Anthem against them like I don't count FO-76agaianst bethesda. In both cases it seemed like a corporate decision to force them to make a game they really did not want to make. And while I had fun in both DAI and MEA they were not good enough to get me excited for a next game, very meh. But meh can still have fun game play.
Thing is, if your launch trailer does not excite me it makes me wonder if you can excite me with the actual game. I wont say its some one to one comparison, but if you can't land the story telling in the trailer to excite me why should i believe you can land the story telling in the game.
I believe that trailers and such are designed from a different point of view than the era of the Xbox or PS2. At the same time there could be less information available to put into trailers as well aside from the high level knowledge of the game. I normally don't pay much attention to trailers anymore because they just all feel the same. It feels much like this for the blockbuster movie trailer. Fair enough. My way of looking at it is, a ton of games are always coming out, i only have so much time in the year to play them. Your trailer is your chance to sell me on your game over another one I am looking at. If you can't put together a good enough trailer to interest me why should i think that you can put together a good enough game to interest me. That if they can't sell me on their game, I have plenty of other options to roll with.
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Post by abedsbrother on Apr 15, 2024 19:21:01 GMT
Exodus looks good. What has me interested is the guy using the gate, time for him days passed, while a lifetime for everyone else. It will be interesting to see how choices will play a role in the game. I got to that part and my first thought was, "Interstellar."
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Post by hulluliini on Apr 16, 2024 8:09:36 GMT
I rewatched the trailer and I wasn't really hooked, more like bored with that dude talking in generic sentences in the background. But then Muse's song starts playing and they show in-engine action and I felt a surge of excitement. I'm basically a sucker for dramatic music.
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Post by ergates on Apr 19, 2024 15:37:04 GMT
Since I haven't been on these boards in forever, I'm just now seeing this stuff. When I think of Exodus I think of the expectations for MEA. I think of the expectations for Cyberpunk 2077 - after all, it was from the people who brought us The Witcher so it was going to be The Best Thing Ever. I think of what so many people though about Starfield, which we all thought was going to be Fallout/Elder Scrolls in Space. I think of them all falling flat. I'll believe Exodus is a better game when I see it. Edit: Spelling Fortunately, after some patches and tweaking Cyberpunk 2077 eventually turned into one of the best videogames ever created. And I represent one of the miniscule minority of people who actually enjoyed Starfield, though I'm aware that the overwhelming majority consider it five hundred billion times worse that Big Rigs Over the Road Racing, Atari ET, and Ride to Hell Retribution.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 19, 2024 16:34:41 GMT
Since I haven't been on these boards in forever, I'm just now seeing this stuff. When I think of Exodus I think of the expectations for MEA. I think of the expectations for Cyberpunk 2077 - after all, it was from the people who brought us The Witcher so it was going to be The Best Thing Ever. I think of what so many people though about Starfield, which we all thought was going to be Fallout/Elder Scrolls in Space. I think of them all falling flat. I'll believe Exodus is a better game when I see it. Edit: Spelling Fortunately, after some patches and tweaking Cyberpunk 2077 eventually turned into one of the best videogames ever created. And I represent one of the miniscule minority of people who actually enjoyed Starfield, though I'm aware that the overwhelming majority consider it five hundred billion times worse that Big Rigs Over the Road Racing, Atari ET, and Ride to Hell Retribution. I enjoyed Starfield right up until the point when you travel to another universe. Then any LI you had has been left behind but you're staring at the other version who doesn't even know you. That bugged the hell out of me.
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Post by ergates on Apr 22, 2024 17:45:10 GMT
Didn't even bother with any of that. Finished main quest, and all major side quests, did the bits of exploration and ship building that interested me and as far as I was concerned: Game over, time to play something else. Never been big on playing the same game for hundreds of ours via restarts with NG+ Far too easy to suffer burnout by doing that.
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Post by q5tyhj on Apr 25, 2024 17:00:57 GMT
How many times have we done this "X will kill Y" thing already with BW? 4? 5? We really need to do it again?
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Post by Sanunes on Apr 26, 2024 2:56:54 GMT
How many times have we done this "X will kill Y" thing already with BW? 4? 5? We really need to do it again? The world can always use more dead horse glue.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 5, 2024 16:57:33 GMT
I don't agree with everything in every video that Kala Elizabeth has made but she is 100% right in this case. Casey Hudson is NOT the sole creator of Mass Effect hell he's a co-creator with 5-7 others at best. I think Nightingale has proven to me my skepticism about how people get hyped up about a couple of people from a large team going to work on something new doesn't mean it is going to be good or not have the same faults of the prior games. I know "Gaming News" likes pointing out when a former BioWare developer goes to work at a different studio or creating there own, it doesn't mean it will work out. I personally don't think I have found a game marketed to be from a former BioWare developer to have caught my interest like a BioWare game. In some cases, it's because some creators don't know how to run a business regardless of whether it's a video game company, movie studio, music company, or a comic book company. Some creative people can but it's often after a long and painful process of learning about their creative field from the other side. Image Comics is a perfect example of this, back in the 90s 6 of the hottest comic book creators left Marvel to start their own company Image originally as an imprint of Malibu (an independent publisher) after about 6 months they left Malibu and became fully independent the only problem only one of them, Jim Valentino, had any kind of knowledge of being an independent comic book publisher all of the books were constantly late and other creators they originally brought in to help them write, pencil, ink, color, letter, and edit their comics didn't get paid and/or they just sucked. Many of the other creators who had come to Image to publish their own books left and started their own companies because of the extreme competition with the founders whose egos got out of control and started as many fights as possible with other creators like writer Peter David and John Byrne who both feuded with Todd McFarlane, who were critical of their books and their attitudes. Honestly, I don't know how Image Comics is still in business, but at least two of the Image founders are out of Image; Jim Lee sold his characters to DC and is now one of heads at DC. Rob Liefeld lost the rights to most if not all of characters, and he seems to be more of high-priced freelancer now of days. I think some of the creative people in video game industry are going to be the same way.
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Post by helios969 on May 25, 2024 11:03:56 GMT
It looks interesting, but I definitely got quite a bit of MEA vault exploration vibe from it. Maybe they're going for a FU Bio/EA thing with this was how Andromeda was supposed to be...don't know. I hope it's not a bunch of rinse and repeat puzzles to access vault tech...with the same for combat, e.g. fighting the same 2-3 enemies repeatedly. Dense story, handcrafted missions/set pieces, good combat with varied and challenging enemies and encounters is what I'm looking for...with them delivering on really shaping the world in a meaningful way.
EDIT: As for killing ME forever, Dreadwolfs success or failure will probably determine that...but I'd say if Exodus delivers it may actually help deliver better content in ME next.
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Post by ahglock on May 26, 2024 18:25:29 GMT
Since I haven't been on these boards in forever, I'm just now seeing this stuff. When I think of Exodus I think of the expectations for MEA. I think of the expectations for Cyberpunk 2077 - after all, it was from the people who brought us The Witcher so it was going to be The Best Thing Ever. I think of what so many people though about Starfield, which we all thought was going to be Fallout/Elder Scrolls in Space. I think of them all falling flat. I'll believe Exodus is a better game when I see it. Edit: Spelling I agree with the general sentiment of waiting and seeing. But those example make me wonder how much of it is because people have different expectations of what the game is. MEA did not live up for me but that is because I get bioware games for a compelling narrative and interesting characters. But the game still was fire in its game play, it was a open world game so those trend towards less compelling narratives as its more about the exploration. Yes it had technical flaws etc at launch. Cyberpunk 2077 at least on pc was great at launch and got better with its DLC, I understand it was a total cluster F on consoles. Starfield is a great game as well but I think people were expecting something it was not. For example I thought it was obvious with it being a massive space exploration game you wouldn't stumble across POIs every 20 feet like in skyrim, but apparently people were expecting that. And yeah like all games it has flaws. Like i think they should have had some way to randomize interiors of POIs so you never got a repeat. I've played hundreds of hours and had very few repeats, but RNG can kill it there. I think they should of added more to the smuggling mechanics, and I think they should of had something like a business venture or colonist quest line incorporated into base building. But I have still had a blast hundreds of hours in.
So while yeah there was some quality dips or issues, I wonder how much of the complaints were because people wanted the studios to never change. Just keep dropping the same slop over and over again for which people would then complain that it never changed or evolved.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 26, 2024 19:34:10 GMT
Just keep dropping the same slop over and over again for which people would then complain that it never changed or evolved.
Pretty much.
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Post by smilesja on May 27, 2024 5:57:48 GMT
Since I haven't been on these boards in forever, I'm just now seeing this stuff. When I think of Exodus I think of the expectations for MEA. I think of the expectations for Cyberpunk 2077 - after all, it was from the people who brought us The Witcher so it was going to be The Best Thing Ever. I think of what so many people though about Starfield, which we all thought was going to be Fallout/Elder Scrolls in Space. I think of them all falling flat. I'll believe Exodus is a better game when I see it. Edit: Spelling I agree with the general sentiment of waiting and seeing. But those example make me wonder how much of it is because people have different expectations of what the game is. MEA did not live up for me but that is because I get bioware games for a compelling narrative and interesting characters. But the game still was fire in its game play, it was a open world game so those trend towards less compelling narratives as its more about the exploration. Yes it had technical flaws etc at launch. Cyberpunk 2077 at least on pc was great at launch and got better with its DLC, I understand it was a total cluster F on consoles. Starfield is a great game as well but I think people were expecting something it was not. For example I thought it was obvious with it being a massive space exploration game you wouldn't stumble across POIs every 20 feet like in skyrim, but apparently people were expecting that. And yeah like all games it has flaws. Like i think they should have had some way to randomize interiors of POIs so you never got a repeat. I've played hundreds of hours and had very few repeats, but RNG can kill it there. I think they should of added more to the smuggling mechanics, and I think they should of had something like a business venture or colonist quest line incorporated into base building. But I have still had a blast hundreds of hours in.
So while yeah there was some quality dips or issues, I wonder how much of the complaints were because people wanted the studios to never change. Just keep dropping the same slop over and over again for which people would then complain that it never changed or evolved.
I mean the GOTY last time was a CRPG, many gamers at least those online aren't looking for innovation lol.
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Post by FiendishlyInventive on May 28, 2024 17:28:47 GMT
You are free to believe that. Or you can simply see that Baldur's Gate's loved for the reason Bioware titles prior to a decade ago used to be.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 28, 2024 18:21:47 GMT
You are free to believe that. Or you can simply see that Baldur's Gate's loved for the reason Bioware titles prior to a decade ago used to be. Believe it or not there were many people who didn't like the game because of the turned based/dice rolled combat and wanted a DAI style combat for it. And some found the character creator limited, the story vague, the gore, the sex, way too many menus and messy inventory system (seriously the menus and inventory system of Starfield is much better than BG3) and that some if not most of the party characters not likable at the start (and let's be honest that last one is a fair other than Gale, Wyll, and maybe Karlach don't exactly make great first impressions). It's also a hard game to get into if you're not a fan of the first two games or of D&D 5e. BG3 is a great game, but it's got some serious flaws in gameplay, characters, writing, and etc., that it's probably not going to be able overcome due to Larian Studios being pretty much done with it and wanting to move on to other projects.
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Post by ahglock on Jun 2, 2024 5:19:53 GMT
You are free to believe that. Or you can simply see that Baldur's Gate's loved for the reason Bioware titles prior to a decade ago used to be. Believe it or not there were many people who didn't like the game because of the turned based/dice rolled combat and wanted a DAI style combat for it. And some found the character creator limited, the story vague, the gore, the sex, way too many menus and messy inventory system (seriously the menus and inventory system of Starfield is much better than BG3) and that some if not most of the party characters not likable at the start (and let's be honest that last one is a fair other than Gale, Wyll, and maybe Karlach don't exactly make great first impressions). It's also a hard game to get into if you're not a fan of the first two games or of D&D 5e. BG3 is a great game, but it's got some serious flaws in gameplay, characters, writing, and etc., that it's probably not going to be able overcome due to Larian Studios being pretty much done with it and wanting to move on to other projects. If Larian didn't have so many consumer friendly practices I do not think its reception would have been half as good.
And as a note while Gale made a okay first impression his second impression is ass. I'm so good at magic the goddess of magic needs my D. So eye rollingly bad. Biowares worst character background is better than that. I only keep him around so he can blow himself up and take out a lot of the fodder in my way.
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Post by Sanunes on Jun 22, 2024 23:15:12 GMT
Believe it or not there were many people who didn't like the game because of the turned based/dice rolled combat and wanted a DAI style combat for it. And some found the character creator limited, the story vague, the gore, the sex, way too many menus and messy inventory system (seriously the menus and inventory system of Starfield is much better than BG3) and that some if not most of the party characters not likable at the start (and let's be honest that last one is a fair other than Gale, Wyll, and maybe Karlach don't exactly make great first impressions). It's also a hard game to get into if you're not a fan of the first two games or of D&D 5e. BG3 is a great game, but it's got some serious flaws in gameplay, characters, writing, and etc., that it's probably not going to be able overcome due to Larian Studios being pretty much done with it and wanting to move on to other projects. If Larian didn't have so many consumer friendly practices I do not think its reception would have been half as good.
And as a note while Gale made a okay first impression his second impression is ass. I'm so good at magic the goddess of magic needs my D. So eye rollingly bad. Biowares worst character background is better than that. I only keep him around so he can blow himself up and take out a lot of the fodder in my way.
I angered a friend of mine when he was making statements about how much EA could learn from Larian, I didn't think they would take my statement of charging for early access for three years before an official release would definitely help with BioWare's development issues as badly as they did.
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Post by Gwydden on Jun 25, 2024 0:12:32 GMT
Even setting the Bioware connection aside, this excites me as a big cinematic sci fi RPG. Yes, there's been a few of those over the past decade, but none with a setting or premise that particularly spoke to me. While the announcement itself was meh, there's a lot of additional info in the game's website that does a much better job of selling me on the concept.
I don't really see why some insist on rooting for studios like they are sport teams. The thread title, obviously, but from the other side, many defensive Mass Effect fans somehow upset that a new space opera RPG is coming out and all too ready to call it a ripoff for the flimsiest reasons. Personally, anticipation for this game makes me want to replay Mass Effect, if anything, since nothing else scratches quite the same itch, just like BG3 reminds me of DA:O, in a good way.
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Post by jamiecotc on Jul 10, 2024 22:03:19 GMT
Exodus looks interesting, especially the time dilation, but flashy trailers aside, so much is still unknown about the game that it's hard for me to get hyped. And God only knows when this thing will get released: two years, five years, seven years, ten years? I'm at the point that if a game isn't coming out in the next six months, I won't bother with it.
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Post by Felya87 on Jul 12, 2024 11:47:54 GMT
out of curiosity, cane we play as woman? since the game from what little there is look promising, but I can't find anywhere the confirmation for gender choice in game. Like, there is some lines about customization for the protagonist being present, but no confirmation that we can play a woman traveler. I've been quite burned in the past with games that talked about customization, but they referred just to gameplay and stuff and no actual protagonist customization. This little particular may seem small, but is the difference for me if I can care or not about this game.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 12, 2024 15:51:31 GMT
out of curiosity, cane we play as woman? since the game from what little there is look promising, but I can't find anywhere the confirmation for gender choice in game. Like, there is some lines about customization for the protagonist being present, but no confirmation that we can play a woman traveler. I've been quite burned in the past with games that talked about customization, but they referred just to gameplay and stuff and no actual protagonist customization. This little particular may seem small, but is the difference for me if I can care or not about this game. No confirmation I think, but given the past games of those involved (Several BioWare veterans) and the clear intention to place this in the RPG space (companion system and all), I would be very shocked if they had locked in a male protagonist. The protagonist’s name, Jun, is also a unisex name, which might be indicative.
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