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Post by Black Magic Ritual on Apr 7, 2024 5:49:29 GMT
Female Qunari Bros, are time is approaching soon, however there is still the matter of what Qunari origin the PC should be. So which one do you guys want? Personally if the Female Qunari is Tal-Vashoth, then I would like to play someone loyal to the Qun to contrast with her. I'm not that familiar with the Qun but I've listed several options I've conjured up
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Post by g_scoundrel on Apr 7, 2024 6:48:53 GMT
Let's see. We've already played as a Tal-Vashoth, so it wouldn't be that interesting once again (IMHO). Playing as a Ben-Hassrath spy would mean we'd be playing someone like the Bull or Tallis, and they both have fed us with enough backstory so, again, not interesting. We had a Saarebas in 2, and he wasn't that awesome, I wouldn't play a bulky crazed mage. Have no opinion on any slave origins, I think it'd all boil down to playing Fenris - break free from slavery and take revenge on your former master. The only one left for me is an Antaam General, though I'd love to see or even play as a Tamassran. One final thought: please let the Qunari be serious this time. The Iron Bull was too far from Sten and Arishok whose characters I so loved back then.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 7, 2024 7:15:18 GMT
We've already played as a Tal-Vashoth, so it wouldn't be that interesting once again (IMHO). Correction, Adaar was a true Vashoth, a person born outside of the Qun and raised separate from it. Actually, a deserter from the Antaam, who would be Tal-Vashoth might be interesting to play, if they allowed sufficient options for dialogue choices. Why did they defect? Do they still hold to the principles of the Qun? In fact, what if they deserted because the Antaam had acted in defiance of orders from Par Vollen? A rank and file soldier might not have been aware of this initially but when they realised the truth, perhaps they deserted not out of a rejection of the Qun but because they were faithful to the leaders on Par Vollen. So, they would be more Sten in outlook or Hisraad (Bull) when he was on Seheron. The only problem would be this couldn't apply to a female qunari as they are not usually found in the army but may be they were there as an auxiliary, for example providing medical care. A mage would also be a problem as a devout Saarebas would not want to be without their handler but they could get around that by saying their handler was killed and they were separated from the Antaam, so now they are technically a Tal'Vashoth whether they wanted to be or not. They then have to come to terms with the fact of being free of any restraint for the first time in their life and how they deal with this. The alternative to a Tal'Vashoth for me would be simply a Qunari slave as I have previously said that a slave background could fit any race or class. In the case of a qunari, it would be relevant whether they were taken as a child, probably on Seheron, so not raised to adulthood in the Qun, or whether they were taken as a war captive as a adult. I think the latter is unlikely because Tevinter would likely kill any Qunari prisoners of war rather than risk trying to use them but may be they might employ them in tasks involving hard labour, such as mining or quarrying, on behalf of the State rather than an individual owner.
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Post by g_scoundrel on Apr 7, 2024 12:07:14 GMT
Correction, Adaar was a true Vashoth, a person born outside of the Qun and raised separate from it. Man, I feel like an idiot now. *crouches and crawls back into read only*
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Post by Little Bengel on Apr 7, 2024 13:27:29 GMT
Yeah, since we got Vashoth already, if we're sticking with only one origin per race, I'm going with Tal-Vashoth.
Otherwise, I'd also be cool with a Ben-Hassrath spy origin.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 8, 2024 7:10:45 GMT
Man, I feel like an idiot now. *crouches and crawls back into read only* Now that makes me feel bad. To be honest, it took me a while to get my head around the difference. I don't think the terms are even used consistently in dialogue in the game, particularly when Iron Bull and Adaar are talking or Iron Bull and Solas. With the latter, when speaking of Tal'Vashoth they refer to Adaar as if they are one as well. I think it would be a whole lot simpler if they had kept Kossith for the race and then just distinguished between Qunari (faithful to the religion) and Tal'Vashoth (apostates). Then anyone who had never been part of the Qun would just be a Kossith.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 9, 2024 14:20:16 GMT
Saarebas. At least, its the most unique experience of all of these.
I'd rather a Saarebas that's either somehow still in the position (I don't know how, but that's where unique character writing comes in) or is going newly Tal-Vashoth and all that entails... than a Vashoth where the writers have an opportunity to write Quirky Millennial With a Staff.
I think a spy can wait until the next game. I instead want a followup on what 'Qunari magic' (so to speak) can uncover for us about the very nature of magic in Thedas. I'd like there to be a good retrospective reason why the true 'final boss' of Inquisition was a Qunari.
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Post by xerrai on Apr 10, 2024 3:59:43 GMT
Saarebas. At least, its the most unique experience of all of these. I'd rather a Saarebas that's either somehow still in the position (I don't know how, but that's where unique character writing comes in) or is going newly Tal-Vashoth and all that entails... than a Vashoth where the writers have an opportunity to write Quirky Millennial With a Staff. [...] Oddly enough, DAI multiplayer (via Hissera) sets a precedent for saarebas legally operating without an arvaarad. But even in Trespasser it seems that saarebas were operating on a relatively long leash since there were entire saarebas groups that were operating/researching with limited immediate oversight from non-mages. At the very least the saaraebas-to-arvaarad ratio was skewed. That may have been a unique case given the severity of the Viddasala's mission, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Qunari start shifting their stance to allow for more independent mages given the threat that Solas represents. Desperate times call for desperate measures and all that.
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Post by wright1978 on Apr 10, 2024 5:59:07 GMT
There’s no option for no qunari origin. Given that, I’ll say tal-vashoth makes the most sense.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Apr 10, 2024 12:07:01 GMT
Kont-arr born qunari turned tal vashoth Lord of Fortune
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